
The New York Times has called out the neocons.
The last thing this country needs as it heads into this election season is another attempt to push the intelligence agencies to hype their conclusions about the threat from a Middle Eastern state.That’s what happened in 2002, when the administration engineered a deeply flawed document on Iraq that reshaped intelligence to fit President Bush’s policy. And history appeared to be repeating itself this week, when the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, released a garishly illustrated and luridly written document that is ostensibly dedicated to “helping the American people understand” that Iran’s fundamentalist regime and its nuclear ambitions pose a strategic threat to the United States.
It’s hard to imagine that Mr. Hoekstra believes there is someone left in this country who does not already know that. But the report obviously has different aims. It is partly a campaign document, a product of the Republican strategy of scaring Americans into allowing the G.O.P. to retain control of Congress this fall. It fits with the fearmongering we’ve heard lately — like President Bush’s attempt the other day to link the Iraq war to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
But even more worrisome, the report seems intended to signal the intelligence community that the Republican leadership wants scarier assessments that would justify a more confrontational approach to Tehran. It was not the work of any intelligence agency, or the full intelligence panel, or even the subcommittee that ostensibly drafted it. The Washington Post reported that it was written primarily by a former C.I.A. official known for his view that the assessments on Iran are not sufficiently dire....
If the Republicans who control Congress really wanted a full-scale assessment on the state of Iran’s weapons programs, they would have asked for one, rather than producing this brochure.
The nation cannot afford to pay the price again for politicians’ bending intelligence or bullying the intelligence agencies to suit their ideology.
It's not just the blogs watching you any longer, Fred Fleitz. And Dick Cheney can take his desire for pre-fab intel and shove it. Never play politics with national security -- especially when your record on the subject is an abysmal failure, filled with lies and half-truths.
What does President Bush think about all of this? Who the hell knows, he's on vacation...again.
Had enough?
UPDATE: You can e-mail the NYTimes editorial board and thank them for following up here: editorial@nytimes.com (Thanks to *ilson for finding the e-mail addy for me.)
(Reader "LR" sent me an e-mail, giving me a heads up that this wasn't an original -- but it comes from Cj at Worth1000.com. Wanted to give credit where it was due -- and that will teach me to not double-check on an image I receive in my e-mail.)
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NED!
Christy!
This has to be put down, vocally. I’m curious to see how the Hillarys of the party react to this Iran bullshit.
And good morning, Christy!
The Democrats should jump on this and question if the Iraq debacle is the Republician blueprint for success in dealing with Iran.
Iraq Israel Hezbollah Lebanon=Iraq; here we go again
Sorry thats = Iran - not enough coffee yet
Morning gang — this is one of those mornings where I am most grateful for coffee. Am coming down with Fi’s ick. *blergh* How’s everyone this morning? What’s caught your eye in the news?
And can I just say — good on the NYTimes for picking up on the Fred Fleitz reporting that Dafna Linzer did in the WaPo! This editorial made me SO happy this morning — it’s about damn time the corporate media started calling bullshit on this Administration’s faux sham of politicized intel. That is NOT how it is supposed to work — and they mess with the process to all of our peril.
Their desire to go to war is frightening. All in the name of lining the pockets of Halliburton and Big Oil. It saddens me.
…now I must find coffee
I wonder which one of his 25 summer reading books he packed? Sweet. A family wedding and some fishing. Must be wonderful to be able to spend time with his folks and his children. Must be nice to not be one of the 2500 marines that has to pack up and ship off to Bush’s hell on earth. I have had more then enough.
Good morning, Christy, and kudos to the NYT for getting something right.
I tried to find a good e-mail for the NYTimes editorial board folks to send thanks, but haven’t come up with one. Anyone have one that isn’t for a Letter to the Editor, but is just for a thank you note? If so, post it and I’ll update above for everyone.
Millineryman @ 4
Excellent soundbite - elected Dems, hop aboard.
Vulpes fulva ! ! !
Mornin’ Everyone
Oh Christy, thank you for this morning wake-up call. Hard to believe the MSM is getting in front of this, but I’ll take it. I also recommend Raimondo’s latest at Anti War. It’s a doozy on Iran and our history with it. Chalabi keeps turning up like a bad penny.
If these nuts think the American public has an appetite for more lies and more war and more plundering, they are wrong.
I hope you’re feeling better very soon.
Love the photo. Sometimes it seems as though the pack mentality will doom us–I’ll be curious to meet with John Dean on this issue on Sunday. Still, the presence of the fox within the herd, heads up and alert, maybe that’s us, and maybe we can divert the pack from the sort of suicidal mentality that seems to predominate now. I’ve had enough and then some……Thanks for your dedication, Christy. There are islands of hope in this lake…
I have been waiting and waiting to use this pix. A reader from Britain sent it to me — but didn’t want credit for the image. So thank you, person whose name I’m not going to mention, but you know who you are. :)
The NYT seems to imply that 2002 was the first instance of this happening. But as Digby (I think it was Digby) said: they’ve always been wrong.
They’ve always agressively criticised the intelligence agaencies who failed to see The Current Danger. Missile Gap, Dominoes in South East Asia, you name it, they’ve always whined that the CIA had a liberal bias, and they’ve always been wrong. And the result has invariably been a cost of billions of dollars, tens of thousands of American lives, and hundreds of thousands of foreign lives.
But they get into government and skim off a profit while the skimming is to be had, so that’s good.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....cut_senate
Anybody see the latest Ned?
And go check out peacetakescourage.com for the latestAva video. It is very moving.
editorial@nytimes.com
I knew Hoeskstra was planning something when he made this announcment. He’s looking to expand the war, not actually prevent.
twolf1 @ 8
well said! You can add the defense industry to the list of war profiteers as well.
“We have to stop this regime.”
“This regime is really scary.”
“They could bomb us, if we don’t act soon…”
Familiar message? As in the runup to the Iraq war, they’re saying, “We’re doing it, we’re doing it, we’re doing it.” Which is why I believe they really plan to do it. Public be damned, Pentagon be damned, polls be damned. They probably think 1) they have nothing to lose 2) it’ll give ‘em a bump in the polls 3) history will recognize the wisdom of their decision 4) God is whispering in the Deciderer’s ear.
Christy, I just hope the voices get louder & louder. OT. I saw a segment on CNN earlier, re: WIDOWS of men KIA were having their pensions cut by (RUMMY) by 60%,The widows are suing but, this thing needs to get out. Maybe someone will look in to this and try to help them. Maybe contact Paul Hackett, or Howard Dean ? What do you think ?
Really great graphic to the lovely person out there in our beloved Great Britain!
Millineryman, perfect question.
Christy, My all-time favorite FDL image! It’s a great picture. Thanks.
yesterday, cnn was showing, on a map, how far iran’s current types of missiles could reach. into parts of europe. then they said iran was maybe 10 years off from developing a missile that could hit the U.S.–and they showed the arrow start in Iran and make it’s way around the world to the U.S. All that was missing was a mushroom cloud and little stick figures running away screaming.
Nana Pam @ 22
or Murtha
Take this miraculous editorial and allow yourself to imagine for a moment that you live in a country that functions as something more than a blind engine of destruction.
What are the appropriate, just penalties and remedies for goading the country into war?
What are the appropriate, just penalties and remedies for omitting information in the process of goading the country into war?
What are the appropriate, just penalties and remedies for misconstruing informaiton to goad the country into war?
What are the appropriate, just penalties and remedies for lying to goad the country into war?
What are the appropriate, just penalties and remedies for profiting from this war?
Are there laws on the books now? If not, imagine that we had a Congress that could produce good, clear legislation. How would an effective, contsitutional law read?
That’s my appeal to the rational brain trust that reads here.
To those feeling “irrationally” angry, let’s put due process aside for a moment. (Where did I get that idea?) Who’s guilty?
Pick a favorite and build a case. You can be as sloppy as you like. (Where did I get that idea?) Why is he or she guilty?
cbl @ 13
Vulpes fulva? I prefer Vulpes vulpes.
Love the picture this morning, Christy! The game is indeed on.
ot - Lamont faults Lieberman, Bush on Katrina
The administration can crank up the mighty wurlitzer all they want, but they can’t rely on the AUMF for permission to invade/bomb Iran.
The default position is that Congress has the authority to declare war, and contols the purse strings.
Even the dimmest Republicans realize Iraq is a disaster. Any of them running for office must know that going after Iran would mean instant ejection come November.
Thnaks op99 and meta. I’m sure Murtha, Hackett, Dean or Lamont will say something similiar.
For those that questioned whether or not HoJo was campaigning with the Republicans here is some TV coverage and you decide..
http://www.wtnh.com/global/sto.....yHelp=true
goodness I love that graphic, keep going upthread to get another chuckle -
grs @ 6:00am - Amen! ya had to know something was hinky about that earlier Hoekstra blathering
is this a pre emptive strike from Gail (?) walling off Pinch and the other kids from going down that road again ?
but what will we tell
the childrenpoor Bobo Brooks ?am I greedy to think it would have been nice to include something in it about Valerie Plame and the setbacks to Intel her outing wrought ?
probably, but like everyone else am so glad to see this
“a product of the Republican strategy of scaring Americans into allowing the G.O.P. to retain control of Congress this fall. It fits with the fearmongering we’ve heard lately”
the agreed goal of terrorism is to frighten the civilian population. So what is the difference between a terrorist and republicans? (rhetorical question).
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great pic!
anyone notice that the bushliar-criminal regime set the stage for the ‘no good intell on Iran’s nuke program’ meme by outing Plame - our CIA mole on ta da: Iran’s nuke program?
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YES!! twolf1, Murtha God Bless Him.
Nana Pam — Murtha and Kerry have both done quite a bit of work on the benefits issue. As have a number of others — but Murtha has really been leading the charge in the House on this.
TIME: The Pentagon Plans for an African Command
Oh, golly. The NYT omitted something. I’ve helpfully corrected it, in bold:
Nana Pam, et. al.–
I was just talking to someone about how I looked at the Virginia presidential results county by county. It was close and Kerry took a lot of the highest population centers but Bush got the military towns.
I know the military traditionally votes Republican but I hope in November they register disapproval with the shabby way they’ve been treated with their benefits even as the Repugs rant about “Supporting our Troops”.
Good morning everyone!
This post is a reminder of why it is so important to take control of the House and Senate in November.
“Christy, I just hope the voices get louder & louder. OT. I saw a segment on CNN earlier, re: WIDOWS of men KIA were having their pensions cut by (RUMMY) by 60%,The widows are suing but, this thing needs to get out. Maybe someone will look in to this and try to help them. Maybe contact Paul Hackett, or Howard Dean ? What do you think ?”
NPR had a segment on this morming that indicated that the DoD refused comment and that Congress was divided on whether to repeal the current law (which allows the offset of DoD pension from the VA pension) - that’s the way to elevate this issue, find out the position of your Rep or Sen and hammer them if they are against paying war widows and widowers what their spouses were promised…
Tommy at 42 — mwahahahaha — I wouldn’t hold my breath on a correction for that, if I were you. *G*
gak @
38
emptywheel has been all over that for a long time, but it never hurts to get a reminder. Thanks.
I don’t know, do ya think it was the Crayola smudges that gave it away ?
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....009523.php
cbl at 48 — oh, good heavens. Forged Niger documents 2.0 anyone?
…and the perfidious Kuwaitis are hiding all those missiles under premie baby incubators!
Bush, Cheney, Bolton and the rest of these criminals will get the war they want. What the hell is going to stop it, the public rising up in righteous anger and insisting on sanity and forceful diplomacy? Ha, the nation is xenophobic and violent, hence the election of violent, xenophobic politicians to lead it. Bush and Cheney ARE America. If they lust for war Americans will jump into bed with them and hump the reaper too. There is a reason millions upon millions chain themselves to the TV and radio listening to O’Reilly, Rush, Hannity, Savage, Beck, Ingraham, Reagan, Boortz and the rest of the hatemongers spewing their bile over the airwaves. It’s not out of morbid fascination they hang onto their every word, it’s because they AGREE with them. This nation is sick, and sicker since 9/11. Thanks to Bush many dream of killing and maiming brown people, Arabs and Muslims, or at least dream of sending someone to do it for them. War with Iran is coming. It’s coming because the nation wants it. These crazy bastards could get the country to sign on to firebombing Toronto with a slick enough PR campaign. Gaining acquiescence for nuking Tehran will be a piece of cake.
I just re-read the Bush vacation story in the WaPo, and I want to say for the record that protesting at someone’s wedding is bad form. The poor bride and groom can’t help it if they are related to George Bush — they were stuck with him at birth. I’m all for holding him accountable, but not for ruining someone’s wedding day. That’s a step too far for me, and I felt the need to say it out loud. I’m just saying…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
You could try this:
Michael M. Weinstein
Editorial Board
miwein@nytimes.com
Jane S. @ 43
I think Webb has a good chance of prevailing with the military. Sen. Dude Ranch Macaca wraps himself in a flame retardant flag, but Veteran Webb advocates for lifetime tax cuts for military service, and oh yeah, not starting unnecessary wars.
tommy yum -NICE rewrite but no nod to Judy Kneepads?
as I posted above — the Email address for the Editorial Board is editorial@nytimes.com
Good Morning Christy, good post, again, thank you.
(re: Ick. Try Miso soup, chock full of nutrients, it’s yummy, and the instant stuff isn’t half bad if you use more water than they recommend. Toss in some scallions and carrot, and voila! It’s better than at the restaurants)
On topic: George the first was head of the CIA, didn’t he make it clear to his dimwitted son that you *don’t* mess around with your intelligence sources? This has appalled me since he first took office. Iraq wasn’t bad intelligence. It was ignoring everything that the Decidererer didn’t want to hear. And they’re doing it again. (Hacking up a beardly hairball here)
This is stupidity of the first order. 20 years ago, when I was studying the history of espionage in college (Very strange class) had you given me a timetable of this presidency & the CIA, I’d have said you were nuts. No president would be so unimaginably self-destructive as to so piss off his intelligence agencies.
(I won’t type the string of expletives that I’m saying, it would melt the phone lines on the way to the server, and then around the country, and it’s fire season out there)
The default position is that Congress has the authority to declare war, and contols the purse strings.
The default administration position as described in John Yoo’s book is that the declaration of war by Congress is a formality, a recognition of a state of conflict. The president, in the administration’s view, can enter into any conflict without Congressional approval. The declararation of war power is backward looking, in this view.
Yoo limits the war-making powers of Congress to the purse strings. If they want to stop a war he says, they have to stop funding it. But the administration has even gone beyond that restriction. In the run-up to Iraq, before the AUMF was passed, the administaion “redirected” 2 billion dollars to preparations for war in Iraq.
steve duncan @ 51
I don’t think a majority of Americans are like that. Maybe a third. Unfortunately we all suffer for it.
It makes me feel powerless. I suspect a lot of people in Germany in 1939 felt the same way.
Christy, if Bush was your father, uncle, brother or friend you’d be rightfully horrified and ashamed of his genocidal actions. Common decency would dictate you pronounce your sadness, anger and disagreement with his policies. Maybe the wedding couple could have held a press conference calling for Bush’s indictment for war crimes and jailing at the Hague pending verdict. Perhaps then the protesters would have left them alone.
gak @ 38
I did notice that and was gonna ask if I recalled that correctly. I think they had this outcome planned all along.
Is this the “Eve of Destruction”? Bush, Cheney, Rove and Rice. The nation, not to mention the world, would benefit if these four, and a few others were placed on a rigorous diet. No sugar, no meat and no alcohol. Lots of fresh fruits and veggies. Especially broccoli. Supplemented by daily doses of thorazine from now until well after 2008.
I’m struck by the odd release of this report. A staff report, and one not approved by the full committee. According to the WaPo’s piece yesterday,
There’s something fishy going on here. My guess is that someone leaked the report to the media, and when the reporter called Hoekstra for comment, they rushed to make it public. Congressional committees don’t typically release staff reports like this that have not be “prepared and reviewed” and approved by the full committee. Here, it has not only been released, but the committee has made it clear that this is NOT the position of the committee, just one staffer - and they are willing to name the staffer at that. (Generally, only the members’ names get used - staff are held to be anonymous, if their presence is acknowledged at all - because the members want the credit for the work.)
Ah, the politics of leaking . . . I think someone in that committee or on that staff is scared to death of a repeat of the Iraq intelligence mess. Thank God someone’s awake on the Hill!
beard5 @ 56
If you’d told me ten years ago that the United States of America would jettison the Geneva Conventions, habeas corpus, and half the bill of rights, I’d have said the same thing.
Dru @ 53
tommy yum -NICE rewrite but no nod to Judy Kneepads?
Oh yeah. Forgot:
Thanks, Christy, for pointing us to the surprisingly on-the-money editorial from the Times. I suppose when the corporate media comes through (however seldom that is, and for whatever reasons…), they do deserve credit.
Like others, I really like Millineryman’s phrasing: “The Democrats should jump on this and question if the Iraq debacle is the Republician blueprint for success in dealing with Iran.”
Also, Steve Duncan: Bush is not America. America’s ruling class has never been broadly representative of America. Bush is the product of a dysfunctional democracy. Yes, it’s been dysfunctional since its inception. And yes, I agree that America is sick. But even justified pessimism is no excuse for defeatism. Everything good that’s happened in America’s political history has been the result of progressive struggle. I see it as self-defense; give self-defense a chance.
along these lines, did anyone catch Tweety w/ Biden yesterday ??
Tweety said things like ‘Neo-Con Job’, and was incredibly derisive and dismissive of their crap
then Biden said he was praying to God that ‘true repubs’ would reject “this nonsense” and “pass on drinking the kool aid this time”
Mr. cbl and I just stared at the box incredulously, both wondering Who the hell are you guys, and what the hell have you done with Tweety and Joe ?!?!
Atrios et Yglesias weigh in on Dem Response:
http://atrios.blogspot.com/200.....9783184545
Per CHS, one email to the NYT’s, thanking them for their fine editorial “Wanted, Scary Intelligence.”
jayackroyd @
57
Who’s gonna stop him from spending wherever he wants?
Ten bucks says a terror state of emergency will require postponing national elections indefinitely until the state of emergency passes, like gas from his . . . .
OT but Dana Milbank on George Allen:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....v=hcmodule
Go WEBB! (doin’ the happy dance here)
One less vote for neverending war is what we’d get with Webb in the Senate.
Well, I thought I might muster up a better mood than the one I was in yesterday, but I find this campaign to ratchet up a case for what we know is some kind of military intervention on Iran to just be the last straw for me. It’s clear that I have had more than enough – way more. In fact, I can’t even tell you when the last time I felt that the level of “enough” was even manageable.
Maybe it’s an indictment of how easily they were able to manipulate us into the war in Iraq that makes them think they can do it again, but do they also think we cannot see the mess that is Iraq, and increasingly, the mess that is Afghanistan, staring us squarely in the face? Do they think we weren’t paying attention when, after over a month of air strikes and ground attacks, Israel was unable to defeat a much smaller force? Do they think we haven’t read the materials that suggest that our reluctance to call for a cease fire was so that we could use the Israeli conflict as a test for launching a similar mission against Iran?
I am supremely tired of being treated as if I am too stupid to see what is in front of me. I am tired of elected representatives acting as if the media are a stand-in for what we, the people, are really thinking and feeling, and of the media believing they have the authority to substitute their own judgment and opinions for what we think and feel.
Screw that. Hear us. See us. Watch us head, in droves, to the voting booth on November 7.
Game on, indeed.
I wonder if Hillary, Biden and the rest of the no-nothings that supported the Iraq War will do likewise in terms of attacking Iran? So far at least, (I might missing something), but I haven’t heard from Senator Clinton on the matter.
Rep. Christopher Shays, who is locked in a tough re-election fight against an anti-war challenger, says the U.S. should consider setting a timeline for troop withdrawals from Iraq.
Dear Editor Yum,
How you wrote the NYT editorial. It was totally great. I hope you get to keep that job at the NYT. Cuz, well, we really need you there.
OK Kiddo– Senator Clinton fully backed the “action” in Lebanon, can’t see her not backing the “action” in Iran…
twolf1,
thanks for the Shays link. funny, don’t think this is what Mehlman had in mind for Adapt to Win
Peterr @
62
Peterr, as you know from reading Dafna Linzer’s article, neocon, Fred Fleitz, was the principle author of
this latest Pravda-like, treasonous, scare mongeringthe report.Here’s emptywheel’s take.
twolf1 @ 73
Thanks twolf1. Joe is running to the right of a CT Republican. Oh what tangled webs we weave.
Christy, I like you, hate to spoil their wedding day,BUT how many weddings,lives,& futures has Bush DESTROYED. If Bush cared about their wedding he could have stayed away,or at least not made it so public,Sorry Christy I have no pity for anyone related to him. OT go to Crooks & Liars for a really feel good story on ANN Coulter( I know Im tired of her too, BUT watch it’s worth it, I promise. HEE HEE
I am convinced that Senator Clinton is a neo-con, blind supporter of the Israeli government, and has lost her marbles as far as foreign policy is concerned.
Here are two ways NOT to have good Iran intell:
(1) Out of your top intelligence agents–Plame.
(2) Allow a single cell phone call to magically reach every secret contact in Iran, thereby wrecking all of our info sources there.
It’s almost like they were trying…
The possible war in Iran has the Bush admin in a quandry on how to sell it to th public.
They can approach it the same way they did the Iraq war and lie about the intellegence. But will people buy it?
They can create a situation in this country of an attack and blame it on Iran, but they risk looking soft on protecting us from the bad guys.
They can attack Iran anyway, not caring that they don’t have our support and when we balk, declare martial law and silence us forcefully.
I vote that they try the last one.
cbl, i caught chris and joe and the exchange about the report too. i was amazed (but pleased) to see them both be so forcefully dismissive of it as nothing more than a move of cheap political desperation. i took it as an encouraging sign that the gop has cried wolf over the “scary brown people in the middle east who all want to kill us” one too many times. it seems like the neocons just can’t function without some sort of bogeyman to point to. it’s really lost it’s punch though.
Tommy Yum at 42, thanks for finding those lost sentences.
OT: Loves me some d r i f t g l a s s
Coffee spew warning!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
I don’t think she’s a blind supporter. Everything she does is for political expediency.
Thanks for the WaPo link angie at 6:49. WOW, Dana really dropped the hammer.
steve duncan @ 59
…is still here why, exactly?
Good job by the NYT there. Whether or not to start a war with Iran is most certainly NOT the conversation we should be having right now!!
The picture reminds me of an early Iraq-related cartoon. The crowd of lemmings rushing toward the cliff and the leader looks to a partner and says, “Frankly, I’m having some second thoughts myself, but at this point I think that the best plan is to Stay the Course.”
peace,
jim
The nation cannot afford to pay the price again for politicians’ bending intelligence or bullying the intelligence agencies to suit their ideology.
Uhmmmm. Guess what! We couldn’t and cannot afford their bending it the first time!
Wow Christy!!
What a difference a week makes!
I’m breathing again, and that old adrenalin’s a pumpin’.
Let’s go get ‘em!
This is the sorta thing that’s gonna cement Tweetie & Scab*rough &… hello? Lou? Wolfie? Donner? Blitzen?
W/ a whole lotta work & cooperation, Nov’s gonna be sweet.
I have been dreading the “October Surprise” for some time. The rethugs at this point are a wounded, cornered animal, and this is VERY dangerous. All indications are that there will big big gains for Dems in November, (redistricting shenanigans notwithstanding) and investigative power for Dems, even in just the House, could be disasterous for team Bush.
That said, Rove is still Rove, and will work devilishly with what he’s got - which mainly boils down to FEAR, and it’s translation, VIOLENCE, all wrapped up in nationalism. In this case it seems to be that we cannot tolerate whatever it is Iran is up to, and to must ATTACK.
How will they pull this off? It’s heartening that there are signs that MSM might call them on this shit, which begs the question - what will BushRove come up with to trump the present skepticism? Another terror attack (allowed to happen)? An “incident” on the Iran/Iraq border (a la 1939)? Get the Israelis to start the shooting?
I dunno, but we have to be prepared for the most dishonest, contrived fiendishness, wrapped in a compelling “be afraid, America” narrative.
Had enough? Yes. I guess the next question is: Ready To Commit To The Fight For Change?
OT but I suspect (gulp) that some might be interested: I saw Ned last night at Crobar in NYC. Personally I think hot nightclubs with open bars aren’t exactly the most conducive settings for serious politics; but there was great music from Moby (who introduced Ned, which was nice) and The Roots, and the crowd din actually calmed down a bit when Lamont gave his 3-minute stump. Ned’s presence was somewhat stern, either because he wasn’t into the scene or maybe because he wanted to cut through the buzz. There were also readings by Rosie Perez and Julia Stiles, from “It Takes A Nation” about Katrina victims being scattered across the country. I’ve got pics here. [end of dubious aside]
I think we need not only thank the new york times, I think we need to beseach them to link the push for war in Iraq to the plan the PNAC set forward years ago
they need to post all the memebers of the PNAC, where those people are in the administration
I GUARANTEE even republicans will start talking about impeachment of we are able to get that story some legs
egregious at 81 -
What’s the story of the cellphone call in (2)?
About Hillary:
Dr. Bong @ 85
Christy Hardin Smith @ 52
Dr. Bong many thanks.
Christy I understand where you are coming from but I think that quiet, mindful protesting at a fatcat Republican wedding is perfectly acceptable. And I fully expect anyone who is there holding signs to be ripped apart and derided by the likes of Faux News unlike the neo-con religious nuts who came out to protest and interrupt the funerals of the servicemen and women all in the name of homophobia.
Dear NYTimes,
Thanks for finally waking up and smelling the coffee about the disastrous neocon national security policy. All we want is the truth. Keep it up and I’ll resubscribe.
lina @ 86
Oh yes. The Senator is quite wily. Her defect seems to be that she cannot or will not see there are many sides in the Middle East firestorm. She’s hewn to one view only. But I think you are correct. This individual is one calculating pol. And it is for this reason, that I don’t like her.
“The Democrats should jump on this and question if the Iraq debacle is the Republician blueprint for success in dealing with Iran.”
I agree Kai.
I think the easiest first step is for the Dems to begin demanding that the WH and
assholeBolton began working with our Allies and the U.N. A statement that we will not act unilaterally would be a good place to start. US forces have Iran surrounded. The ME understands that, but Americans have lost sight of the extremely provacative nature of our deployment.Nukes in Iran pose a much greater risk for Russia, Europe, and the rest of the Middle East than they do for us. The rest of the world knows that Bush’s war drums are about oil, not nuclear weapons.
portia.vz @ 98
Now if you would care to do a fair followup, you would do very niceley to point out the links of those people pushing for war in Iraq and their membership in the sick fraternity that have told us they wanted to attack Iraq and Iran just a few years before the president took office.
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