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Last night after Ned Lamont's victory the Connecticut primary, the phone calls started pouring in from key Democrats offering their support. Frank Lautenberg, John Kerry and Barbara Boxer all called to congratulate Ned.
Boxer actually offered to come to Connecticut and campaign for Ned. Considering her close relationship with Lieberman, that is quite a concession. It is certainly not a good harbinger for Joe's indy run.
Finally, Chris Dodd has agreed to take the lead in pushing Joe to abandon his current course of action. It's a tough decision for Dodd and he should be commended for doing so. The three key House races in Connecticut are the most threatened by Lieberman's indy bid; good on Dodd for showing some leadership with regard to state party politics and doing so.
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Lamont!
Ned!!!
Jane!
Barbara, you are one tall woman. Thank you for standing up for all of us. Truce.
Zero!
last thread but aprapo here as well
kerry is spot on;
“I’ve worked with Joe Lieberman since our days in college together,” Kerry said in a statement today, “and I respect his many contributions to our public life. But the Democratic Party stands for something, and the Democratic Party in Connecticut has made a choice.”
“The events of the past months make even more clear,” Kerry added, “the differences Democratic leadership would make for our country on Iraq, in making America safer, in having an economy that works for everyone, and in achieving energy independence. That’s who we are as Democrats, and that’s what we’ll be fighting for. It’s time for all Democrats to come together to support Ned Lamont. It’s time for Democrats to unite.”
It’s time for Bill and Hillary to have a long, hard talk with Delusional Joe.
He’s been asked to leave, time to go. We need a bouncer of the Democrat Party to kindly escort him to the exit and irrelevancy.
hooray FDL
great work all.
www.LieberDem.com
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ZEP
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Rules!!!
Did the watb get all his signatures for the Indy run?
New developing headline from Raw:
Dem Leader Reid: Lieberman too close to Bush,
defeat bodes well for Democrats… Developing…
OK, looks like they are going to LINE UP behind NED. They need to do this FAST.
EPUed–Breaking News: MSNBC reporting from UNITY RALLY for Ned Lamont. Chris Dodd will be there.
By the gods, Jane, get some sleep! (or at least a good mug of coffee and some pumpkin muffins) I can’t keep up with the posts this week
–that by the way was a sincere thank you for all that you do, and for keeping me informed. You truly are wonderful.
—and you’re keeping me wonderfully well distracted from this “calligraphy project that would not die!™”
meta,
yes, FAST is the operative word.
Any stragglers must be identified and remembered.
Any smart Democratic politician would get on board immediately, as it is crystal clear which way the tide is flowing now.
Yes, big unity rally scheduled for Right Now in Connecticut.
Good for Boxer. Feeling a lot better, knowing that I voted for her all those years I spent in California. Where’s Hillary? And DiFi?
Wow.
On another note: Jane, we all appreciate so very deeply all that you and Christy have done. This could not have happened without your leadership and insight.
To all the FDLer’s who have been patient with my Barbara Boxer tirades, I gladly eat crow today. I’m so thrilled to be wrong, I can’t tell you.
And to Barbara - Please, sit down, take a load off. We need you.
Sen. Boxer is my Senator. I’m not as mad at her for her Lieberman support as some of y’all are. I think it was about chits being called in more than anything and, well, that’s politics. But joey has no more chits, he use ‘em all up. Glad to see Barbie’s doing the right thing now.
Namaste, Jane. Get some sleep. Nice way to lose a few pounds;-) Think I’ll try it myself in November.
Joe is like that kinder loser guy who hangs around the party too long. You know when everyone wants to get together and chill but they’re kinda waiting for dude to finally get the hint….
BTW can somebody shake Candy Crowley? Her reporting and Anderson Cooper last nite were unbearable..
xyz @ 15
That’s FAST!! Oh, to be there…..
“Oh! Oh! Oh!” They’ll all come around. What’s to support in a reindeer that crashed and burned?
This is so much better than “Maryland Moment”.
I wrote to her last night, asking for that very thing. Not saying it was my email that did it (”Well, I wasn’t going to, but since Peterr asked me to . . .”), but then again, who knows?
Send those emails, folks. Email your senators and reps, email NARAL and PP and NOW and the Unions . . . Ned’s on a roll, and we want to take advantage of Newton’s first law of motion: keep that campaign rolling!
Those three House races have got to be big. With the potential for a three way senate race, I’m guessing that the local dems will be pushing hard to get a good turnout, which ought to help. Any chance of Joe agreeing to support those three? Or would that just be more “partisanship”?
Unity rally live on CSPAN 2 right now
Ned will speak!
Maybe Rumsfeld will step down and be replaced by Joe. Then he’ll have to drop the pretence that he’s a good Democrat.
I would like to predict that sometime before sundown on Friday, the Lieberman campaign will announce that Joe is dropping out. He will be off the radar (for the Sabbath) until late Saturday evening, it will get Sunday morning play, and then it will be all about Ned’s campaign for victory in November.
I hope.
Just got off the foam with Bill Nelson’s office, laying out exactly what JoHo’s doing and exactly how fast we want Beelly to help put the kibosh on that foolishness (i.e., right now, this very minute!).
Mommybrain 19 But joey has no more chits
…but he is still a chithead
…
Good for Dodd, talk joe out of it NOW.
Ried and Schumer are right on the money.
Make this win ALL ABOUT BUSH
Keep saying Bush
BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH
Bush Democrat
Bush Republican
Bush Doctrine
Bush Policy
Make it a swear word!
…
meta…
No need to eat crow. Let’s dine on Joe. With lots of hot sauce. A la carte, of course.
xyz @ 25
Thank you!
“Barbara, you are one tall woman. Thank you for standing up for all of us. Truce.”
Truce, my ass. She. Was. BURIED. in email from angry constituents, clearly to the point of puckering her southern exposure down to an angstrom. She knew good and well if she didn’t do this, she was going to face a similar challenge and it probably would have been just as successful as Ned’s campaign.
She’s doing the expedient thing, there’s nothing altruistic about this, it’s just more of the same base, venal politics she did last month in CT, campaigning for Mr. Mackey’s cousin (well Lieberman DOES have Mr. Mackey’s head, dammit.).
Her form email to her pissed-off constituents didn’t make a lick of sense because it started from the implied presumption that Ned Lamont would not be as progressive as Mr. Mackey’s cousin. When I asked her in a reply, why she believed that, I got no answer. I’ll post the content of the email if someone asks to see it.
So before you give that slimeball props, understand where she started in all this.
With all the hoopla surrounding Joe’s self-serving decision, I hope Ned will keep his message and focus clear about why he ran in the first place- to represent the views of the majority on Iraq, for smart government that helps people, not the powerful, and to make a forceful critique of Dubya’s many abuses of power– and not just that he is the “real” Democrat.
What I’ve found so compelling about Ned is that he’s kept his message simple and clear, and hasn’t gotten bogged down with namecalling and strategizing. I hope he can keep it up!
Thank Barbara Boxer for getting on board with Lamont here:
info@pacforachange.com
Jane, you have helped Connecticut accomplish the first step in reclaiming our Republic for Americans. Many, many thanks from those of us coast-to-coast who’ve waited long days, nights, and years for a victory like last night’s.
GO NED!
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Had Enough, Connecticut?
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Oklahoma kiddo @ 31
You’re the best!
twolf1 @
29
Big *g*
A guy on Air America just made a great point. When Johnson lied us into war in Vietnam, it was the DEMOCRATS that got rid of him. We as a party have been willing to admit a mistake and take action.
Interesting history today, considering we are starting to clean house again.
The unity rally was scheduled way back, IIRC - fairly standard practice after a primary, and includes lots of other races than the senate race.
That said, it’s a great stage for Ned this morning! I hope he gives some good shouts out to the three House candidates Jane mentioned above - they’re gonna need all the support up ticket they can get, and it will just reinforce Ned’s place in the party and Joe’s place out of it.
Donna Brazile said she wished Joe would drop out of his independent run …
okay, unity rally is on RIGHT NOW on CSPAN
Dodd is speaking
(epu’d on thge last thread, so I’m repeating my comment here)
Ned Lamont’s victory reminds me of something the unforgettable Barbara Jordan (my all-time hero) said when Ann Richards first campaigned for governor of Texas:
The people are back!
Let’s make that our mantra from now through 2008.
According to Atrios and Kos, Hillary has already sent a big fat check to Lamont from ther PAC. I hope (and believe) that the Big Dog will be making some phone calls and applying pressure. He is after all, a politician first. And he doesn’t want to miss the opportunity to pick up those congressional seats … Hillary will need them when she is Prez. :)
Joe as Sec of Defense? Boer the enemy to death, now there’s a strategy…
xyz:
Yeah the ‘big’ rally is on now. I’ve never seen such a sad group in my life. they look like they’re at a funeral. And there’s no audience.
Goddam, did every Ned supporter go to sleep?
W00t, Jane!
Any chance for a nap today? :)
One thing I haven’t heard a lot about is the potential effect on voter turnout Lamont’s win might have in the fall, around the country. A lot of people don’t vote because they don’t believe their vote can make a difference. They think elections are all controlled by shadowy behind-the-scene figures (there’s a lot of truth to that view, methinks). Might Ned have awakened a sleeping giant?
OT…Jane why don’t you come to Maine for a little R&R and good home cooking? Many friends here would be happy to show you some hospitality.
Thanks for the good news!!
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 33
Before you go off on me, have you been following my posts about this issue? And as for now, my primary mission is getting NED LAMONT elected. Get it?
When can we slap around NARAL?
i guess by “big” i meant big names, not nec big crowd
Anyone else get teh impression that Joe’s dem supporters were doing it for form’s sake, and to return chits, but now that there’s no excuse, are more than happy to join Lamont? As if they actually don’t LIKE Joe Lieberman at all?
Thanks to FDL for being such a force. You were all magnificent and will undoubtedly see this thing through till Ned joins the Congress.
First rate fight.
Hope everyone here from beyond Conn. will keep up the fight in any way they can, too. Just talking about this guy Ned plants so many seeds.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I’ll keep asking until someone answers:
WHAT SHOULD WE TELL OUR CHILDREN????
Mocha Dem — we will slap around NARAL before the day is over. Thanks for keeping your eye on that ball, it’s what got us into this race in the first place (for those who are keeping track).
I get it just fine, but I don’t want anyone thinking Boxer wouldn’t turn away in a minute if she thought it would get her more votes.
I also don’t want anyone to think it would be unjustified to challenge her in her next primary. If it weren’t for my relative poverty (not starving, but not independently wealthy) and the many skeletons in my closet (hey, I’m a musician) *I’d* think about running against her.
[breathes in deeply]AAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhh!!! Do you smell that? I love the smell of VICTORY in the morning!
G’Morning MAJORITY DEMOCRATS!
How sweet is this headline from Time Magazine?
“The Unmaking of a Senator: How Bloggers Pulled It Off”
“With Lieberman’s primary loss, the netroots movement has established itself as a power center among Democrats. But will its influence haunt the party in November?”
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 33
I reacted much the same way to her email defense of RGJoe, and so I’m pleased to see that while she didn’t listen then, she sure is listening now. IMHO, it’s a step in the right direction, so I’ll thank her for that. Is it the whole journey? No, so let’s keep reminding her of that . . .
That’s the big thing about last night. No slight to Ned, but what happened last night has DC nervous. Boxer’s just one sign of that, and the discussions in the cloakrooms, over lunches, and over cocktails tonight will be quite interesting.
The big winners, beyond Ned, are the democrats who are running against DC insider republicans. Folks like Claire McCaskill in Missouri, running against Jim Talent. Folks like Charlie Brown here in CA, running against Doolittle. Every democrat running on a strong message of accountability got a huge lift last night, and we need to get their backs.
Keep ‘em coming, Howie, Jane, and Christy! Over the last few months, we’ve learned a lot; over the last 24 hours, we’ve proven it works.
Well that was a nice ‘eat your peas’ moment for Dodd. He ‘regrets’ the people’s choice? How nice. What a stunning endorsement. Yeah they’re rallying like crazy
1,236 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher:
I think that those who are worried that a Lieberman run would endanger congressional candidates are simply wrong. As long as Lieberman is in the race he unites Democrats both in the state of Connecticut and, ironically, in the nation and focuses attention against Bush and Bush fascism. People need to see the common enemy and find common ground to vote against the bad guys…Lieberman will do what Rove and the fascists have adroitly avoided fer 6 years, he will focus people against Bush and the whole Bush-fascist nightmare. I think if Lieberman stays in the race we will see a concerted effort on the part of the fascists to separate themselves from him.
Remember, people first need ta have somethin’ ta vote against in order to find commonality to vote FOR someone or some set of common values.
KEEP THE FAITH, OUR DOG IS BIGGER’N THEIRS!!!
I’m thinking Joe is going to find the senate verrrrry unfriendly, as all of the senate democrats, and the leadership, will be campaigning for Ned. His relationships with his colleagues are going to be strained, at the least, destroyed more likely.
Joe will be feeling more and more isolated and friendless. I don’t think that’s sustainable for himpersonally, especially as there will be the carrot of “respect and admiration for his being a statesman and accepting the will of the people gracefully” hanging out there.
He will drop out.
considering the English defeated the Boers in 1902 …
One WANG CHUNGed skeezer down, umpty-ump to go … after Jane’s vacation and Christy’s massage!
evap @ 26
evap: okay, Chimpy’s dim — but dim enough to wanna sell as SecDef the putz who can’t even keep his measly little campaign website functional?
Hmm. Good question, lotus. Why, thank you.
Josh has a good commentary up on the Time website:
http://www.time.com/time/natio.....52,00.html
OH BABY…THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING AOBUT
make BUSH a swear word, make NEO CON a SWEAR WORD, invite the REAL REPUBLICANS to reclaim their ideals
a slight edit on the reid statement would be along those lines;
I would have preferred the reid shummer statement to read;(emobldened are the changes
Joe Lieberman has been an effective Democratic Senator for Connecticut and for America. But the perception was that he was too close to George Bush and what his policies have done to this country
this election was, in many respects, a referendum on the President’s polices which have deconstructed this republic, her sanctity, her economy, her our armed forces, and the respect around the world we once enjoyed as an inpartial broker of world events more than anything else.
uhyup
We cannot have Lamont-Lieberman II sucking all the oxygen out of the three CT congressional races the way round I did. Joe is basically running a sabotage campaign.
*ilson46201 @
40
Who cares what Donna Brazile thinks?
Bunch of shell-shocked Connecticut Democrat insiders on stage with Ned on CSpan.
Dodd is probably still being nice to Lieberman b/c they are all trying to politely convince him to get out. IMO, probably the right strategy. If HoJo resists for much longer, I truly hope the gloves come off.
Jane, I spoke to Donita last night, she was so wound up it was hilarious! She did a major victory dance and said shes planning a special Spin this week. She also told me to pass along to you her thank you and her sentiment she hopes you’ll get some rest.
A word for Boxer…
She deserves mucho credit for her PAC For A Change. I get emails from her regularly, asking for votes each time they are deciding who next to support financially. (And if I don’t respond, I get a reminder! …whether I can afford to make a contribution or not.) The most recent one announced that Clair McCaskill will be getting support in her race against Jim Talent.
I’m not even one of Boxer’s constitutents, but I give her credit for combining new technology and small-d democratic principles.
If you don’t get her emails, you might want to.
Out here in California we are waiting to hear from our Senior
Senator Diane Feinstein to come out in support of Ned Lamont.
Or is she a siamese twin of Joe turncoat. Time will tell.
She too can be challenged if her boat does not change direction.
dodd on msnbc
Just want to say it again: give it till the weekend to let the Senate Dems do their work. There’ll be lots of public appearances, lots of public statements, and lots of behind-the-scenes talk. You’ll also have the gasbags giving elegies on Joe’s political career.
The Senate’s in recess now, so demanding committee re-assignments and immediate punitive action towards HoJo may make it harder for him to listen to a few days of the chickens coming home to roost.
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 55
After what this country and the world have been through the last 6 very long years, I have absofuckinglutely no intention of taking anything for granted. I am watching these people like a hawk. Boxer is my senator, but I’m watching all of them. Accountability is on the table, thanks to CT and the rabid internet.
I appreciate your opinion. I believe we are fighting for the same thing.
Yea, Jane Hamsher!!!
Way to go, Jane!!! You have done us proud . . .
But NOW — you need several naps, followed by 10 or 12 hours of sleep.
Recharge your batteries, then Go Get ‘Em, Tiger!!!
jr @ 53
Once upon a time, there was a little guy named Ned. Ned was sad, because things were not well in his town. People were dying in a war that nobody really wants. People were not getting the medicines they needed. People were not getting the education they needed. And most of all, people were not getting the leaders they needed to change things.
So Ned stood up, and asked to be a leader. Everyone said he had no chance. Everyone said he would never win. Everyone said he should sit down and be quiet.
But Ned found some people who listened to him. Ned found some friends to help spread his ideas. Ned found some friends who stood up with him.
And when election day came, Ned and his friends won. The old leader didn’t like it, but that’s what happened. Ned and his friends won.
Reid, Schumer applaud Lamont victory
“I reacted much the same way to her email defense of RGJoe, and so I’m pleased to see that while she didn’t listen then, she sure is listening now. IMHO, it’s a step in the right direction, so I’ll thank her for that. Is it the whole journey? No, so let’s keep reminding her of that . . .”
Indeed.
Also, Let’s not forget the campaign of progressive Democrat Jon Tester in Montana, running against the reprehsnsible lizard Conrad Burns. Donate to Jon’s campaign too. Get the ‘Netroots going for him. Montana is becoming a blue state, they swept to power in the state government, let’s help them finish the job over there. Take a look at what’s happening out in the Big Sky country.
chris dodd’s a smarmy beneficiary of nepotism — that’s why he sucks up to colleagues who’ve been in office a long time: he’s been nurtured in the placeholder environment where longevity & seniority are what counts
llamajockey @
9
time for Joe to ramble on…
I think Lamont is REALLY going to help galvanize the Dems message… the next 5 days will probably be very revealing…
oh, the spin they are in!
It is great that Boxer called Lamont to congratulate him and even offer to stump for him.
However, let’s face it, this is not enough. In order to give Lamont the best chance of winning, Lieberman needs to be out of the race completely.
It is shameful that he continues to campaign and claim he is a Democrat (as he did today on “Today”).
We need to keep the pressure on. Boxer’s recent actions have to have been a result of our pressure on her to act. I wrote to her yesterday as well (as I am sure many other Californians did last night).
It is not enough for her to campaign for Lamont. She and the rest of the Senate and Congressional Dems need to pressure Lieberman to abandon his selfish campaign.
Don’t let up folks. Keep calling and writing to your Democrat senators. We need Loserman out.
jr @ 53
Do you understand how annoying it is whenever someone uses The Children {C}{TM} as a political prop? I really wish Dems would quit using that device to frame things, no one in their right mind wants to harm children and pearl clutching on behalf of The Children {C}{TM} just makes us look ridiculous IMHO.
“For the sake of our state, our country and my party, I cannot and will not let that result stand.”
____
The Democratic Party must be made to take an explicit stand on Leaverman’s statement. NOW.
Goddammit, we can’t get this done fast enough!
Center for war-related brain injuries faces budget cut
meta @ 75
I agree with this psot. :-)
Man, so much of the chattering about Joe-nertia from the MSM today sounds Shakespearian: …I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him…
Anyhow, I think we need to ratchet down the anger towards Boxer a tad, long enough to stay focused on our mission.
It’s carrots-and-sticks time, gang. We’ve beat Boxer, flayed her with switches until bloody — and she got it, clued in. Maybe somebody else got to her more directly, like Reid, but it was still with the use of those sticks applied to Reid’s backside if he or any other Dem got Boxer to snap right around.
And now it’s time for carrots. We only need to simply say that we acknowledge and appreciate her support of Ned Lamont as the Democratic Senatorial candidate chosen by the people of Connecticut. Were she to receive hundreds or thousands of these messages, it would reinforce her position and help her check any desire to backslide.
Capice? It costs us little, but the return could be great.
No Cocoa-Puffs for you, Joe. Mmmmm, momentum:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....26850.html
Colbert withdraws invitation!
With Joe losing and shining the light on “Bush Love,” this could be the moment of “testiculogenesis” (trademark Josh Marshall Heavy Industries, Gmbh). This moment of truth, a light that shows that the people have spoken and that the leaders finally get it.
Could the be? Am I getting ahead of myself?
Prolly.
But hope feels good. Don’t harsh my mellow right now…
Pelosi Statement on Connecticut Senate Race
“Last night, Connecticut voters sent a clear message for change, rejecting President Bush’s failed policies. Voters in Connecticut and across the nation are seeking a new direction to make America safer, our economy stronger, and to broaden opportunity for all.
“I respect the decision of the voters and endorse the Democratic candidate, Ned Lamont, and look forward to working with him for a great congressional victory in Connecticut.”
I can’t understand why our party leadership, in Connecticut in this current example, can’t run a UNITY RALLY worth a damn. This CSpan broadcast is ridiculous — several Dem leaders have said “I support Joe Lieberman, er, Ned Lamont.”
Is there an audience or are they clapping for themselves?
NED ON CSPAN NOW
punaise @
81
…climbing that staircase to the land of ice and snow?
Graceful and real, our Ned.
In Salon Glenn Greenwald is quite brilliant and succinct about everything that’s wrong with Joe:
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/
Glenn Greenwald subbing at Salon.com War Room:
Ned was great.
Questions now.
poor Ned must be exhausted but he spoke well !
Mommybrain @ 95
when the (electoral) levee breaks…
Dodd sez he has not talked with RGJoe this morning.
Has not asked RGJoe to back out. “I’ll be more positive, I’ll be urging people to support Ned Lamont.”
karelroc @ 83
BINGO! Barbara Boxer shouted us down when it mattered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDKl3oRU0g
So, does she really want to make amends? Then she should step up, and get Lieberman to step down. Otherwise, her new found support for Ned Lamont rings hollow and all I see is Boxer covering her ass. I’m still disappointed in Boxer’s actions. The way she ignored my and many other emails asking her to reconsider her plans until after the deed was done.
I want better people in the Senate. That’s why I supported Ned Lamont in the first place.
Has anyone noticed something odd in the MSM lately? Josh is in Time, Glenn is at Salon, what is going on? Has the MSM figured out there are fantastic Dems who can write?
Did Dodd really say he ‘regrets’ the voters’ decision? What a fool. Like he wants those votes himself doesn’t he?
What in the world do they do behind closed doors - enter a blood oath or something? I supposed it is like having your best friend and co-worker get fired. Do you work with the new guy? Make a choice I say. Help your friend deal behind the scenes but help the new guy on the job.
Get with the program Dodd.
Dodd sounds like he’s got the meme, but his enthusiasm for Ned is not what it should be…
Joe needs to go over the hills and far away: CT voters didn’t show him a whole lotta love
punaise — observez les armatures incluses !
That guy on CSPAN behind Dodd looks like Ted Kennedy, that’s not him is it?
punaise @
107
ah ah!
ah ah
*ilson46201 @ 108
justement - my last comment tamed the ziggurat, n’est-ce pas?
Fini — he sure looks like EMK, but it’s CT Congressman John Larson.
(That didn’t work. Was supposed to look like a musical scale thingy)
Glad you broke the frame before it broke the comments again!
UN Ambassador John Bolton speaking outside the Security Council on CNN. Not sure why yet.
Love child, never meant to be
Love child, (scorned by) society
Love child, always second best
Love child, different from the rest
Not Kennedy- but there are reports he was one of the first to call, congratulate, & support Ned.
When it comes to Joe, it’s best to heed the words of the great Delbert McClinton - “Don’t let the smooth talk fool ya, don’t let the sharks get to ya, don’t let those small minds, out there on prime time, take a chunk out of you - don’t let the smooth talk fool ya”
The people of CT didn’t let Mr. Mackey’s cousin take a chunk out of them. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Morning Firehounds!
I’m putting together an Excel spreadsheet with US Senators who have come vocally in support of Ned, and how mucy money they (or any affiliated to them direct PAC) have donated to his campaign. I’ll make it available later today. I’ll probably add other data to it in the future, like how they’ve voted on issues of interest. I’m only tracking US SENATORS…if someone else wants to track House members or anything else, have fun :)
I just sent an email to Ken Nighthorse Salazar, urging him to make an unqualified statement of support for Lamont.
We’ll see.
Mommybrain @ 177
Hey Mommybrain!
What can I say I’m a plumber in rea