
(Note: I'm in Connecticut and would like to organize some sort of get-together for readers. If you'd like to join us let me know in the comments.)
David Sirota's post at the HuffPo, echoing both Jen Nix and Glenn Greenwald, brings up a subject I'm happy to see taking root in the progressive blogosphere -- the need for the netroots to support liberal writers. One of the things people have been mentioning as we travel across the country is the need to provide a counterbalance for the wingnut welfare that interjects the abject ravings of eliminationist fantasists and racist mall rats into the national discourse far in excess of anything they'd ever achieve by virtue of their own merits. It's the reason we started the FDL Book Salon. We've got to show up for our own.
Congratulations are in order for David, whose book Hostile Takeover just hit the NYT Bestseller list. You would think that establishment media would be relieved at not having to singe their eye sockets with another Anne Coulter book and would be happy to review intelligent, energetic, well-researched books like David's and Glenn Greenwald's, but you would be wrong.
That work we are doing - and the growing energy behind our movement - is clearly frightening the Establishment. You can see it in the Establishment’s vicious reaction to progressive’s recent books. Al Franken and Al Gore’s books were both attacked with dishonest lies. Markos and Jerome’s book was slandered by Matt Drudge. My book was smeared by a bitter, angry reporter at the Washington Post who seemed appalled that someone had the nerve to expose the putrid corruption growing in Washington, D.C. like gangrene. And, incredibly, Glenn Greenwald’s book has been treated to a vow of silence - with almost no major news outlets even reviewing it.
But this treatment is all a good sign. As Gandhi once said: “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.” This very thing happened to me personally. When I first decided to write Hostile Takeover, many in Washington’s elite circles brushed me off as if I was crazy for even thinking about writing about corruption. Then, as hard-hitting parts of the book seeped out, they tried to downplay and ridicule the cold, hard facts they couldn’t answer for on the merits. Then they fought me through dishonest attacks. But now, at the end of the day, it’s clear who the winner has been. This is the same thing for the progressive movement as a whole. Politicians have long ignored us. Organizations like the corporate-funded DLC have ridiculed us. Now, those who haven’t joined us are fighting us. But we are most decidedly on the verge of big wins all over this country.
I guess traditional media types would rather continue to fluff the bullies who beat them up and steal their lunch money than support those who would challenge them. Cowardly, but telling.
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I believe! We can take back this country. The question is when.
[it said there were no comments so I thought I would take a chance at being first.]
Fitz! Glenn! David!
Rootz!
FITZ!
Okay, how about a wonderful congressman running for Senate.
Sherrod Brown for Senate!! (running agnst DeWine)
I’ll drink to that!
Ah, Mr. Teller, a quick typist. You chose to say something short, but meaningful. :-)
Um, the end of the post seems to be missing.
And at the same time the above mentioned books generally are ignored, their authors trashed, Coulter is treated like some kind of prom queen/Dorothy Parker.
Hope you dogs are adjusting, Jane.
-uh-, in OH(!), where all votes will be counted if we have to hang the SecyofState/GovCandidate Blackwell by his thumbs unless & until. . .
(so stunned at appearance of blank comments section, got a lil rushed)
GrandmaJ,
my 2nd Fitz in eleven months here.
Jane! Welcome to the Northeast, the Den of Liberal Iniquity!
If you want to daytrip into NYC, give me a holler. Alternatively, let me know if you do get a group together.
I’m easy. But I’m not cheap.
Why is no one in Left Blogistan willing to speak out about what is happening to the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank? I feel like I am violating political correctness by even bringing up this topic…
http://katrinamemo.blogspot.co.....-holy-land
Coulter is more like an ideological Typhoid Mary and should be treated as such …
Norman Solomon’s brilliant book, War Made Easy, was reviewed by exactly one corporate newspaper, and he received exactly zero invitations from such outlets as The Daily Show or anything else to talk about it.
i don’t believe me eyes– is that a Cosmo with a peanut float?
Ed Deevy: it’s been brought up quite regularly in here … Wolcott just did a chilling piece about it http://jameswolcott.com/
Ed at 13, any country that bombs children on the beach is not my ally.
It’s really hit me the last few days, looking for books in different stores here in georgia. I was in my hometown recently in south georgia, and without internet orders, you would never see any of the great books coming out of the left - in stores or even in the library. I did see Ann Couter’s scary gaze in grocery store book aisles, as well as some of the other right-wing crazys. Here in north georgia, the situation isn’t much better. I was under the impression that Kos and Greenwalds book both was doing well on the NY Times charts, but they’re nowhere to be found in the small stores in my area, and I had to dig in the barnes and noble a few town away. All the time with a large steaming pile of Ann stacked as soon as you come in.
We need more info, more books, people don’t like this government but have it in their head that the dems are either non-existant anymore, or they’ve bought straight into the Republican definiton of a Democrat (flag-burning, turn your children athiest and gay).
Sorry for the rant, just been eating at me the last few days.
P
for that matter, Ed — this is the second time you’ve descended from on high in here and asked naively about the subject. The first time you incarnated yourself here, you were told the same as now: it’s being covered and discussed! We are not a den of AIPAC serpents, in case you are wondering …
Ed Deevy — you’re not violating political correctness. You are, however, rather shamelessly blogwhoring.
These descenders-from-on-high we’ve been attracting lately are certainly a tiresome lot.
we are a squadron of rabid lambs, dripping venom, being shepherded by a posse of dark poodles to protect justice and democracy and the American way of life!
I’m living in Massachusetts but I would love to hear about any gathering of FDL people in Connecticut. Let us know the details.
Hi Jane,
I live in CT, and am a daily blogger on DNC, and visit myleftnutmeg, nedlamontblog, Daily Kos, firedoglake, myleft wing and others.
I am hosting a house party on Wed, 7-12th for Ned. Would love to have you stop by if you are around East hartford. I invited Tim and Aldon, too. I have no idea how many will attend, I did not do RSVPs for some reason.
Welcome to Connecticut. Are you reading the Hartford courant and their almost-daily Lieberman/Lamont articles? They are really playing it up!
Please contact me if I can ever help you in any way. I know Tina, Rose, Vicki, etc. Going to Luther’s house for the debate next Thursday.
Will be looking for you along the way.
Regards, Pam
Ed Deevy,
I’ve asked similar questions here, sorta did last night. But fdl has brought the plight of the Palestinians up more than a few times. This turning of Gaza into the siege of Gazagrad is going to become a bigger story every day the Israelis keep up their current approach.
And ramifications of Hamdan will have an important impact on our interaction with Israeli contract agents working in the prisons of Iraq and Afghanistan.
What kind of martini is that?
Oh, and bombs are bad, mkay?
Now that I’m laid off from a global telecom, I’m getting Greenwald’s book. But first, I will read Jacob Slichter’s “So you wanna be a rock and roll star,” cuz at ~40, I still do. Now’s my chance.
What was this about? Oh, right. Bettie!! (McCollum, D-MN)
The March of Science
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07.....nted=print
jane,
how about hartford? or better yet northampton, ma former haunt of redd.
Thanks for nod, Jane. We should all thank our lucky stars (and net neutrality for the time being) that the patriots in the blogosphere are making sure Sirota’s, Greenwald’s and Boehlert’s ideas are getting any hearing at all.
Sorry I’ve been away from FDL for a bit–been on the road and wrapping up my gig at Working Assets. Hope to be spending A LOT more time here, and very soon.
O my goodness! I seem to have offended a few readers. My apologies for the blog-whoring.
In Alaska, when you see something like that floating on top of your manhattan, you want to check if it is still breathing before you sip,……plus, Ill bet it ate the cherry.
Ed Deevy 31 — I have more tolerance for it than some (having built a blog myself), but it does seem to cause a bit of disturbance in the atmosphere. Tying it into the subject at hand usually seems to cause fewer speed bumps.
Mary,
A drive by but the AUMF of Septmeber 2001 Sec 2 b 2:
“(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.”
and Sec8d 1-2 of that Resolution:
“(d) Nothing in this joint resolution–
(1) is intended to alter the constitutional authority of the Congress or of the President, or the provision of existing treaties; or (2) shall be construed as granting any authority to the President with respect to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations wherein involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances which authority he would not have had in the absence of this joint resolution.”
Which is to say that the AUMF does not grant the President any implicit powers beyond those stated in the AUMF: which is to
“use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”
In my reading of the AUMF and the War Powers Resolution of 1973 having captured or subdued these persons, the President has no authority to construe new or futher powers to deal with them because these are not specified in either document and are therefore expressly denied by them.
Hi Jen — good to hear from you again!
Have felt for a long time that it seems like the choices one has are to be aligned with the party of facts, or the party of fear…
This got me to thinking about how that’s the rational v. the irrational, and waging a campaign of facts is just not going to reach someone with irrational fears. It’s why explaining to a child that there are no monsters under the bed or in the closet usually doesn’t work - not as long as the child believes the monsters are there.
We find ourselves in the thick of a fight for the soul of this country, and we are waging it against people who have unleashed the scared inner child of a lot of people, who only want the scary stuff to go away - and not being scared about the mosters is more important to them than losing the essence of what makes this America. They don’t see, as we do, that the monster in plain view is far scarier than the one under the bed.
Breaking through the barrier between the rational and the irrational is not for those who give up easily. So, while we are all talking up these excellent, excellent books, and picking up on the expressions of distrust and disappointment that have crept into the conversations of formerly loyal conservatives, we also have to remember those who agree with us, but who don’t vote.
We need to get as many of us as we can to the polls on election day. Period. And if we can take some from “their” side with us - all the better.
It’s the only way for us to be the best educated winners on November 8th.
Pete Yost of the AP chimes in with a good article about Hamdan and domestic spying http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....hvBHNlYwM-
Jane 21 -
any leads on keyboard sleeves for laptops?
tea spew doth not a happy powerbook make
but well worth it
Ed 20 -
I ain’t no post whore here, but here’s some of the previous discussion you missed. Perhaps more reading and toning down the supercilious act a notch would help you more effectively convey views to those who share them with you.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-162692
kirk murphy says:
June 27th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
*ilson46201
“it’s 4am in Gaza and the temperature is 73F but it’s expected to get up to 89F later - but the Israelis just bombed the power plant so there’ll be no air-conditioning %u2026″
with the fuel shortage (due to the economic blockade), I wonder how soon before the hospitals’ emergency generators run out.
bye, bye ICU patients
and ventilator patients
and soon dialysis patients
Or perhaps the IDF will do what the US did in Fallujah and occupy the hospital before the next stage of the invasion.
Cuts down on the pictures of atrocities if the ER is closed - can’t let too much gore pile up at the scenes of these liberations.
It might disrupt the news cycle.”
168
angie says:
June 27th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
No water or food or meds either, kirk.
could be goodbye to everyone.”
and a whole more there, Ed - as you are so concerned about this content, I didn’t trouble to pretty up the quotes - I’m sure your burning interest and obvious diligence will have you back reviewing the old threads first hand.
sure.
Adie, I’m in Ohio, and that’s my feeling too: We’re gonna count the votes this time, every. last. one.
Hi everyone,
I have to get to sleep, but couldn’t resist linking this Op column from the WSJ regarding the NYT brouhaha. Can you spell sanctimonious?
We are so in Rove’s pocket
wrt FDL get together in CT - jane, please count me in! i’m in MA, but that’s not far… indeed several of us MA roots folks with free time in july plan to volunteer for the lamont campaign if there is anything useful we can do to help (we are within easy driving distance of CT).
“Coulter is treated like some kind of prom queen/Dorothy Parker.”
The Dorothy Parker of a HoJo’s round table, with J-Pod as it’s Alexander Wolcott, Pantload Goldberg as its George S Kauffman, and David Brooks as its Harold Ross. How depressing.
Ed, go read the other Wolcott’s ignoring of what’s going on in Israel and Palestine. Then go start your own damn blog.
Hugh says:
June 30th, 2006 at 5:34 pm
Do you have a link to the complete AUMF resolution, please?
Just a word out to Hamsher et al - while I have enjoyed the blogs (yours especially), I too have many concerns about the well being of the country and I disagree with the Bush Administration. However, it might be a good time to remind your readers, that its good to step away from the internet and not to forget to “enjoy life” for a while. Personal crisis with someone close to me that is “consumed with everything they read on the internet, politically, socially, conspiracy theories etc. in the blogosphere.” Its causing this person to make decisions that are affecting their relationships with others. Example - This person sounds just as nasty and ugly as the right wing talking heads. Its getting out of control for them and I don’t know what to do. This person refuses to listen to anyone that disagrees with him on any level. They are an expert on everything; everyone is wrong and he is right. Any suggestions?
Hi, Jane, how’s the house hunting going? I’m glad to hear Katie’s better. Had to pick up some baby food for Zoey today, the heat is setting her old lady belly off a little.
Wonderful post, Anne. Thanks.
Jen, I was a B&N the other day and found Glenn’s book in the shelves; I rearranged the shelf so it was facing out. CTG, too. That’s me, stealth marketing agent.
MelodyMaker, I still wanna be a backup singer. I love harmonizing.
for that matter: it’s almost 5am in downtown Baghdad and the temperature is 84ºF but later in the day it’s expected to rise to 109ºF — it’d sure be nice to have electricity to run air-conditioners and refrigerators!
zennurse says
June 30th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
Have you seen this? http://www.editorandpublisher......1002764884
BTW — for those leaving word in the comment section — please include a functional email when you leave the comment. It won’t show up but I’ll have it so I can contact you.
jane, i am in springfield, ma, and would love to join up, please let me know the details, thanks
Witney, I’m no mental-health practitioner, but it certainly sounds as if your friend’s blog-consumption has more to do with symptom than cause.
Ed Deevy -
Try Left I on the News for regular coverage on Palestine
I submitted a different one
OMOIGAWD! Crazy Moonbat Jane Hamshuh linked to moi video! Duh people were aksin’ for video; so oi gave it to ‘em! Boy did I evah! I looked so HOT, tawkin’ to ‘em and tellin’ ‘em about da tremendous threat of Aztlan! OMOIGAWD! Wasn’t the little goil I had with me cute! No FRICKin’ way, Jawn Derbyshire! You can’ touch huh! No FRICKin’ way! Now back to Jane Hamshuh and huh crazed moonbats! Wake up, people! Wake FRICKin’ UP! Weah ina wah, heah. A wah! And you just wanna listen to that idiot Gawg Clooney when the only Gawg anyone should be listenin’ to is Gawg Bush. Gawg Bush RULEZ! OMOIGAWD! Will someone get me anutha ice skim milk double-caf cappachina wit Splenda! Make it TWO Splenda, this time! Oim goin’ outta my FRICKin’ mind tryin’ to ejacate des Moonbats! They don’ know that the Mexicans wanna make Aztlan run due nawth right to the FRICKin’ Five Towns. OMIGAWD! It’s true. The FRICKin’ Five Towns are facin’ an imnent threat and duh people watchin’ my video — the Righties — that’s RIGHTies — get it? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! FRICKin’ Genius! Okay, gotta go. SeeYA!Wouldn’twannaBEEEEEya!
Now if I had to guess, I’d guess a certain Eli is in da house . . .
Whew!
Just back from reading all the 434 comments to my diary at dKos (well, 422, since I posted 12 replies).
It was nice to see my diary show up as a “recommended diary” on the front page (and it’s still there at this hour), but . . . .
What a difference between the community over there and FDLers. One commenter posted more or less this same comment 34 times, in various forms:
Oh for crissakes. This diary is bullshit.
Dont pay attention to this erroneous diary please.
Not to say that there weren’t some interesting comments as well, but they were needles-in-the-commentstack.
I scurry back over to FDL for a higher signal-to-noise level.
And truly clever snark, in place of puerility.
Um, Prof, scroll up a couple . . .
Oh have mercy! LOLOL comment number 54….we got talent here!
Thanks, Stephen, I appreciate that. You, as always, have just the right response at your fingertips.
Witney, I’m sorry to hear about your friend. I wonder if they are falling into the anger/despair pit and looking for others who will keep them there (online)? YOu don’t say whether they recognize how over-focused they have become. It would probably help to get away from the computer, but if that’s not possible, maybe finding some humorous political sites would help balance the heavy stuff. I love dependable renegade, and Jesus’ General.
It’s a tough issue.
ya want puerility? we can do puerility ! for days !
Jane, really, the functional e-mail won’t show up?
Promise?
OK. I trust you. (But I have still modified it just in case, to avoid spam crawlers.)
Um…that is sarcasm, no?
Margot, so am I.
Ted Strickland
Sherrod Brown
Mary Jo Kilroy
(P.S. I’m having trouble with the html, there’s always a new line before it kicks in?)
Re: Ct gathering, Jane you know where I am, just going to mention that I work every weekend, but understand that the rest of the universe is off, so may not be able to gather with others there.
*ilson 47
You mean cutting off the power for air-conditioning in the desert summer doesn’t win hearts and minds in Gaza or Baghdad?
Who knew!
Prof 56 -
Congrats on your successful debut. Hope the pueriles don’t grind you down.
(heck, my first DK diary was ignominiously deleted and after my fifth or sixth the little “post comments” box had disappeared from my home dk page….)
Um — that is sarcasm, no?
I’m not sure. I think it may be the real Pam!
“I wonder if they are falling into the anger/despair pit and looking for others who will keep them there (online)?”
that is exactly correct! yes, they know they are overboard, but think that they are serving a higher purpose by spewing out their “informed opinions.”
Jane,
Your feedback is greatly appreciated. I’m a huge fan of this site! And a huge fan of you and Christy. Some of this has to do with the years I spent on the front lines of the civil right struggle in the late Sixties and early Seventies. But, in retrospect, my comments were inappropriate. Why should I hijack a discussion here to promote my own agenda? My only excuse…frustration over whats happening in the Isreali/Palestinian conflict.
Again, sorry about the blog whoring. No excuses.
Well done, Ed.
News that’ll make you smile: Prosecutors Seek $183M From Lay, Skilling
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....lling.html
Ed: perhaps I was a tad arch in my replies to you — but popping in quasi-chidingly isn’t a way to get a deserving message across …
Jane, I would love to meet up with you guys. Can I bring my daughter who simply loves your dogs and I know you would love meeting my daughter as well. I do not live in Ct. I live in New York right on the border with Connecticut, literally 1000 meters from Sherman. [and Pam keeps me sane]
Prof - Congrats on your dKos debut! It’s a very different audience and I find it a bit odd though I suspect that if you are a regular, the experience is more enjoyable since you know the histories and styles of the folks who comment. And if you happen to be at that ivy covered place in the city where Jane has landed, say hi to my mom - she’s one of the afternoon guards at the law lib! (I am so proud of her!)
I’ll mention that we’re working away at the YKOS book - Unconventional - and looking into publishers as well as planning the ebook edition. Early word is the photos are amazing and a lot of neat folks are contributing text.
and Ed - many of us raise the current attack on Palestine throughout the day and have contributed links to info, etc. One thing I’ve learned online is that instead of complaining about what someone else is not doing, I can jump in and do it myself - that’s open source baby as we say at Ykos and a good approach in many ways.
Jane sez:
“…tying it into the subject at hand usually seems to cause fewer speed bumps.”
So that’s where I missed out on my dire need for feedback… I should’ve snarked something unrelated to the original post– say, umm, Dick Cheney’s monster package of junk/frontloaded fanny-pack. Someone help me with a link!
Margot, I’d sing with you anytime just cuz. ((whissperr, call mee!!
Ed -
I appreciate your gracious words and the work you did in the civil rights struggle - as well as your concern for those suffering in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.
Hope we both live to see a Middle East without war crimes and human rights atrocities. Hope we live to see a Middle East without war.
Ann Coulter is evil incarnate –
Ann Coulter is the Spawn of Satan –
Any MSM Outlet that gives face time, air time, or ink to the Spawn of Satan is objectively Pro-Satan.
Any MSM Outlet that gives face time, air time, or ink to the Spawn of Satan is a TOOL of Satan — whether wittingly or unwittingly.
In order to turn things around, we must ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTAAAACK!!! the Messenger — we must inflict pain upon the MSM, until they break out in a cold sweat whenever anyone suggests they book the Spawn of Satan.
Matt Lauer, do you have a shrine to Satan at home? No? Well, why did you not walk off the set when asked to be the TOOL of the Spawn of Satan?
That kind of pain — the kind of pain that did in Dan Rather — is the only way will make the MSM honest reporters again.
Lizzy talking about This Pam, not the Pam at Atlas Shrugged one. Just so you know.
Gee, ck, was Mann Coulter on TV or was that just out of the blue?
This Pam is the Atlas Drugged Pam . . .
Matt Lauer did the initial interview of Coulter’s book rollout
Sorry folks, I meant BERGS!!!
Pammy at 54, now that’s drawing a picture with words. Or a video with words. Top drawer!
Thanks for the insight, siun.
No, I’m not at that place in New Haven where above the west door is carved this from Justice Holmes: “The life of the law is not logic, but experience.”
I misunderstood Jane’s comment, and now see that she was collecting e-mails from those who might be in her area for a microbrew or whatever lesser libations Oregonians drink when they are Out East.
Witney, your friend needs to be reminded that without balance there will be no energy left for the election. I don’t know what they’re reading, whether it’s all conspiracy stuff or some of the more mainline and reality-based blogs, but I know that one way people here stay sane is to get involved in their communities. There will be no change if everyone is sitting at a computer right up to the election. They could volunteer to work for a candidate, or be a poll watcher, or work with their local Dem party. Hell, they could go clean up the side of the road ( here we clean the beach), and that would be a positive contribution.
All the answers are not online; they sound like they’re letting the computer do their thinking. Sounds like a little action (rather than talking) might help.
Another possibility is that they are having a little agitated depression with some compulsion thrown in. But I’m a nurse, not a psych person. I know that happened to me around the 04 election, with news not online, though and it’s hard to stop once it gets going.
Hope that helps. I work twelve hour weekends, so have to go to bed, but I hope you will let us know how things turn out. YOur friend is lucky to have someone like you who will advocate for them like this. Best luck and
Namaste
Night pupsters, with love
zen
kirk murphy @ 75 - hope springs eternal, but even if the Dalai Lama were in charge of reconciliation in the Middle East, we wouldn’t see much imporvement. That’s my biggest frustration when dealing, especially, with the conflict in Palestine. I have so many Palestinian friends and so many Jewish friends and relatives, and none of them has any hope, so why should I?
But I do.
Look Whitey, skip all the psycho-babble crapola about what’s wrong with your friend. Just grab him/her, take them out, and get good and drunk. Go paint the town red, raise hell, chase some skirts and/or dudes, and enjoy. Your friend just needs an attitude adjustment. Good luck.
Ghostman
zennurse –
someone upthread mentioned taking down the Spawn of Satan, and it set me off. I am so bummed about incompetence in the Democratic Party, and how far behind the curve we are in opposing the Fascist Anti-Christ Incarnate Bush Administration, I’m ready to throw things at the TV.
But even in Blogtopia (coined by Skippy) so many of our leading lights don’t get it. Nothing here, but Prof’s experience with his dKos diary set me on edge. The dKos and MyDD rating system SUCKS — it promotes Lord of the Flies attack zones, and we don’t need it.
Anyway — what pissed me off most today was this nugget from Kevin Drum — Marshall Whitman thinks the Hamdan is an attack opportunity for Karl Rove, and the Congress will fall all over themselves to give more dictatorial powers to BushCo. Sad to say, I agree . . .
http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....009108.php
Bah. Humbug.
[/rant]
Marshall Whitman thinks the Hamdan is an attack opportunity for Karl Rove, and the Congress will fall all over themselves to give more dictatorial powers to BushCo.
If it is, it is only because of ineffectual alleged opposition by people like Marshall Whitman.
Off topic and tacky — please forgive me!!!
To egregious: Thank you so much for the donation you made to Charlie Brown. Your post was EPU’d and I saw it later. I’ve been wanting to catch you posting when I’ve been on so I could thank you. Now the two friends I have IRL have asked me to dinner, so I’m posting this thank you here and now because I have to go now, and as more time goes by I feel ruder and ruder!
Gah! So my apologies to everyone for being so off topic here. And egregious, I did meet Charlie Brown and his wife Jan, and here is a picture.
Please no one else look!
Jane,
I am curious. Where will you be viewing the Debate on Thursday? Will you be able to attend it, or watching at some Gathering?
Hi Jane,
I would love to join a get-together here in CT. Monday evening would be great. I’m in Meriden — same place as Ned’s HQ.
Just back from vacation on the Cape without Internet access — how long will you be here?
Uhhh….Jane, is that what I think it is, floating in that martini glass? :o)
g’night, zen
(if it’s not too late….)
Hi Jane,
I am a regular reader (and Lamont volunteer) and would love to join local FDLers for a get together! I live in Newtown & there is a great progressive/activisty place down the road in Bethel– Molton Java Coffee House that might be a terrific place to meet! I know the owner Wendy and I bet she would be thrilled to offer the place up! (at least I think she would!) Let me know!
Karen
tanbark 92
i don’t know if this one of the times to hope a cigar is really a cigar…..(or hope not!)
On the NewsHour, Mark Shields said that members of both parties want to look strong against terrorists, and both will support giving BushCo the legal authority to do whatever with the Gitmo terrorist detainees.
Nevermind that all but ten — count ‘em, ten — are hapless sad sacks that got vacuumed up in the War on Terra, and are guilty of nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
David Brooks said the GOP wants to use Hamdan to inject a fresh dose of Terra, Terra, Terra!!! into the electorate.
How have the Democrats responded in the past?
My frustration is made manifest by Lieber-baby — if we don’t kick this Vichy Democrat attitude in the teeth NOW, the Dems will lose in November.
ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTTAAAAAACK!!!
Um . . . What in hell is that floating in the martini? Please tell me somebody didn’t photoshop Lieberman’s nose!
ifthethunderdontgetya, OK, I remember now. I’m in OH-18, Lobster Boy’s district.
By the way, this might help get people to the polls:
“Bush Advisor Norquist: If we get 60 Republican senators, Social Security is toast.”
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....008898.php
What have you done today to get a democrat elected?
None of this matters if we don’t win the ground game.
GET OUT THERE NOW AND MAKE ADIFFERENCE! IT WON”T HAPPEN AT THE KEYBOARD
http://www.jameswolcott.com/
Did they learn all that in Warsaw, in a last century war or perhaps in Ukraine. Can not say that the Germans were not good teachers, nor that they were not good students.
ck at 87 — I’ve been hearing a few rumblings of this other than Wittman. It looks like certain commentators and news outlets are doing their usual “everything is good news for the GOP, even if it’s the exact opposite of the last thing that we said was good for the GOP.” This round of Rovian “could be good news” is “debating treatment of detainees is another opportunity for Republicans to paint Democrats as weak.”
I’m not buying it. They’ll try to swiftboat us that way no matter what we do, and I doubt the congressional debate will make much of a difference there, and it opens up a lot of opportunity to point out how lawless the Republicans are, with the added bonus that we can say “the Supreme Court says so!”
hi, i am a regular over at the dnc blog and live across the way from conn. in columbia county ny. my great dream is to get rid of our evil congressman sweeney of stopping the vote in florida fame in 2000. but i give good phone bank and would be glad to help out with ned lamont if such support is needed. once lived in south kent but that was long ago without electricity in a little cabin in the woods…how does one find out about the phone banking?
I would love to get together with Jane and my fellow CT FDLers. I live in Danbury but would happily drive to New Haven, Hartford - where ever. Just let me know.
James Carville yesterday on CNN handled the “closeness” of the SCOTUS decision well — he just kept laughing about how such a “close decision” on the 2000 Election got us all into this mess — just who is the GOP to say that a 5 to 4 decision isn’t all that important?
gregg –
good on you. Ned Lamont can use all the help he can get.
http://nedlamont.com/blog
Is Sweeney’s Democratic opponent a viable candidate? If so, post diaries promoting them at MyDD and dKos — see if you can get some traction for them.
the rude pundit has advice for Dem. candidates and the Hamden decision:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
(i always make sure i’m not eating anything when i read his blog).
Karen,
We’ve probably been at the same meetings at Molten Java - it’s a great place!
Jane, why don’t you come to Willimantic and march with N.O.W. members and Ned Lamont in Willi’s Boombox parade on Tuesday July 4? Here’s info on the parade http://www.wili.com/am/ . Ned Lamont will be interviewed by Wayne Norman on WILI 1400 AM on Monday, July 3 from 7-9 AM. Wayne Norman is the annual grand marshal of the Boombox parade and long time radio talk show host on WILI.
it’d be way cool for Jane to lead her Poodle Posse in the parade! kids would love them !
If this was noted in an earlier thread, apologies in advance.
This evening I heard Bush on NPR make a rude comment to Japanese Premier Koizumi at Graceland. Koizumi was making an effort to sign some Elvis songs and Bush snarked him. He said “I thought you were going to sing ‘Blue Suede Shoes’”.
Bush can’t even snark competently. “Blue Suede Shoes” is a great Carl Perkins song. There is no end to Bush’s ignorance.
Redshift at 6:50 pm –
If Congress doesn’t pass something that allows prosecution of the detainees, the GOP will run on the Soft on Terra issue the same way they bashed the Democrats with the Department of Homeland Security issue in 2002.
The Vichy Democrats will either roll over, or get killed for being obstructionist.
Our team needs to get out in front on this, and propose military courts martial that respect the Geneva Conventions and the American Constitution. It’s either that, or a Bush GOP Dictatorship.
Maybe Ned Lamont can take the lead? Show them how it’s done . . .
EEEWWW Jane, what is that floating in that drink? I guess I don’t get out much, or at least I don’t get out to where they’re serving cocktails much. On my monitor at least it looks…well, I edited myself for fear of offending.
Maybe you’re just trying to scare us off liquor? Or only non-cocktail drinkers like me feel this way? Oh well, I’m just squeamish.
ck - I share your frustration, and have been in a bit of a funk about it (and some other things) for much of the day.
What makes me a little crazy is the absence of the obvious questions and conclusions. The so-called pundits and the talking heads have gone so far as to state that the SC ruling is a yank on Bush’s collar. They avoid, however, the issue of his having overreached and cowboy’d over the Constitution, and have failed to ask whether there is value in the SC ruling. They are sinply assuming that the answer to the whole “problem” is to legally give Bush the power he thought he had.
And no one is asking why Congress or the courts or the American people should place any trust in an executive who so clearly is uninterested in being on anyone’s leash.
I do agree that Hamdan will be used like a club to beat more fear into the people; fear is about all the GOP has left in its little bag of tricks - well, that and fixing elections.
But why isn’t Congress taking a step back and absorbing the true import of the SC ruling? Why are they so eager to legislate us into the same kind of behavior we boasted about freeing the Iraqis from? And who really believes that Congress will be able to enact any legislation that does not have significant - and unintended - ramifications that they are too blind to see in their rush to serve the master?
Honest to God, I just would like the pundits to shut the hell up, and stop trying to drive the discussion and the argument where they think it should go. Maybe a lot of Americans wouldn’t know what to think or how to feel unless someone told them, but I’m not one of those people, and I am really weary of the arrogance of these “nattering nabobs.”
Enough rant for now -
Jane, You already have my email and made contact with Zen. We are at your disposal (I am in upstate NY this weekend assessing the flood damage at my Mom’s. Not too bad for her, bad for my brother. Water, however, is not potable out of the tap in most of the region….)