
"How sharper than a serpent's tooth, to have a thankless child." (Shakespeare, King Lear)
Okay, here's the problem.
Today, Republican members of Congress trotted out a resolution to condemn the New York Times for publication of stories detailing leaks about the federal government's various secret programs. Particularly the ones that give Dubya and friends the right to peer into your phone records, financial transactions, and who knows what else without ever having to show a judge what they're doing and why. It's quite a seething circle-jerk of manufactured Rightard outrage out there, and you can see its most execrable manifestations all over the blogs of people like Michelle "Anchor Baby" Malkin and the other Pajamas Media underachievers, including some amateurish and sophomoric manipulations of World War Two propaganda flyers.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same New York Times that was instrumental in carrying the administration's water on Saddam's WMD's? It seems to me that the folks over at Pox News who are calling for Bill Keller's head on a platter should remember the debt of thanks they owe to a certain humiliated and discredited shill named Judy Miller. They should be sending her flowers every day for her (*cough!*) courageous work playing the role of breathless and quivering stenographer to the office of the Vice President, the woman who so fervently believed in Saddam's stockpiles of nukes that she donned desert fatigues and saddled up her own army unit to go on a fruitless snipe hunt in the sands of Tikrit and Badhdad, just to the north, south, and east of there, wasn't it?
At that juncture, it seemed like the Fourth Reich just looooooooved them some New York Times. Dick Cheney and Condi Rice both pointed to Mata Whori Miller's articles as justifications for their posture toward Iraq in 2002.
And I'm not even going to go into the slavish devotion with which the Times lapped up every sticky, salacious drop of Ken Starr's leaks during the Clinton Impeachment, or their recent speculations on whether or not Bill and Hilly still, you know, do it .
But now that at least some small faction of the Times newsroom staff has decided to spit the NeoCon bit out of its mouth and do some real reporting on the Administration's illegal activites? It's time for a Wingnut Fatwah on the NYT! Those dirty New York City Liberals are trying to undermine our national security, Maw! We better git em!!
Fortunately, I think this little bit of political kabuki is going to work as well at stopping leaks to the press as the Gay Marriage Amendment is going to make those queers keep their hands off each other, and slightly less well than the Anti-Flag Burning Amendment is going to stop, well, anything, really. The Republican Congress is really outdoing themselves in bureaucratic posturing and coughing up do-nothing legislation this year, aren't they?
But can you imagine for a second just how bad it would be if we really did live in Michelle Malkin's America? (The one she wouldn't even be allowed to live in because her parents were illegal immigrants who strategically squeezed out little Michelle, an 'anchor baby', on American soil in a successful bid to get US citizenship?) Imagine if it was nothing but Faux News all the freakin' time, 24-7 BushCo propaganda? Things in Iraq are FABULOUS!! The President WALKS ON WATER!! Donald Rumsfeld is a military and strategic GENIUS!!
Gaaaaaaah. If it came down to a choice between Malkin America and America under the Taliban? I'd take my chances with the Taliban, thanks. At least under those guys, Malkin would be wrapped from head to foot in a burkha and forced to SHUT THE FUCK UP and go sit quietly in another part of the house.
It would almost be worth it.
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Are they trying to impress the rubes, or are they trying to chill honest reporting?
rootz
At least under those guys, Malkin would be wrapped from head to foot in a burkha and forced to SHUT THE FUCK UP and go sit quietly in another part of the house.
It would almost be worth it.
And Coulter, too.
Well, maybe.
Honey, I think you mean “secret” programs in the first sentence, unless you are now inventing your own language, now that you’re a big star and all.
xo
And would look great in a burka.
just sayin’
Listen, I just saw the picture of what you blogger-losers look like in the New York Times.
I am outta here. I want to hang out with hotties like Michelle Malkin, Jonah Golberg and Hugh Hewitt.
-GSD
I’m on a little self-confidence kick here, Blank Kludge started it, and now I’m out of control.
… including some amateurish and sophomoric manipulations of World War Two propaganda flyers.
You might consider them amatuerish and sophomoric, but they’re sarcastic efforts to mock the Malkins of the world, not something serious made up by them. As the Shakes link notes:
Former Army Ranger turned antiwar comic book artist Wright had what he calls a moment of clarity after participating in the U.S.’s 1989 invasion of Panama. Feeling that media coverage was blatantly pro-war, but that the post-invasion results for Panama were far from positive, he offers this as a (belated) warning against war on Iraq. Reworking American propaganda posters from WWI and WWII, Wright reveals his satiric take on current events: one poster reads, “Millions of troops are on the move…All To Protect Your Oil Supply! Is your SUV really worth their lives?” In another, a girl sitting in her father’s lap asks, “Daddy, why don’t YOU or any of your friends from ENRON have to go to war?” And many are messages from the Orwellian-sounding “Ministry of Homeland Security”: The Statue of Liberty points to the onlooker and commands, “You! Stop Asking Questions! You’re Either With U.S. or You’re With The TERRORISTS!” The antiwar contingent will read these and weep, rather than laugh. (Publisher’s Weekly)
Personally, I think they’re damn funny.
I am outta here. I want to hang out with hotties like Michelle Malkin, Jonah Golberg and Hugh Hewitt.
I could totally score with her if that’s the competition.
GSD
you mean that wasn’t Jonal in the pic? I thought he was there!
z
But tell me TRex, how do you really feel?
Using your namesake’s sharp teeth on oh-so-worthy targets. Nice post.
Honey, I think you mean “secret” programs in the first sentence
Thanks, Zenn! Got it!
Olberman has clips from the SWIFT organization’s website and magazine stating that they cooperate with governments in investigations, and clip after clip showing our beloved leader bragging about his closing down terrorist fund flows. Kind of makes me wonder just how come it took so long to figure this one out.
Gosh that’s two HTML tags in a week. Who says you can’t teach an old(ish) dog new(ish) tricks? Woof!
Time for bed, pups and puppettes, play nice with TRex. He bites.
play nice with TRex. He bites.
Only if you’re asking for it.
I bite too, but only in the colloquial sense…
MM, AC, Lil Debbie, Noron, and Ole 60 Grit sitting silently, forced to shut the fuck up. I would pay to see that.
Yikes, the fickle nature of the Bush cultists is exactly what I was thinking about earlier today. The poor old Grey Lady carried their foul, parasite-ridden water in the runup to the failed Bush Iraq adventure, and where’s their thanks? Not only are these people hopelessly romantic, with their notions of lifting up the Middle East by sheer dint of belief in the notion of democracy as a bulk cargo easily unloaded on distant shores, but they’re also extraordinarily mercurial and adolescent in the depth of their affections.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Otto Man 8, further down that link you’ll see that Malkin and co. did make some attempts of their own at reworking the WWII posters. Those are the “amateurish and sophomoric” posters TRex is referring to, not Wright’s work.
The poor Bush/Rove and the Bushbots. They must feel like they are in a zombie movie. Enemies everywhere. A never ending parda that they must keep firing upon, minute by minute or else they are doomed.
That paranoid lifestyle is going to catch up on them one of these days.
-GSD
parda=parade.
Time to go to bed.
-GSD
I was just watching Olberman, who for some reason (I assume contractual) had dingbat O’Donnell on to discuss this. Apparently JD Hayworth is introducing a resolution tomorrow condemning the media for publishing “classified” information. You think Nancy Pelosi can marshal a simple walkout on the grounds that they have better f*&%$#ing things to do?
As to this post, and the Bushies’ ingratitude to the NYT: don’t forget Tom Friedman. If the Moustache of Understanding hadn’t been there to give “intellectual” cover to the “liberal” Establishment media types for supporting the war, Junior may not have been able to sell it, even with Judy’s help.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to lay my hands on that Judy Miller “Patsy and Edina go to Iraq” photo and I just can’t find it. You know, the one where she’s all dressed up in her desert gear, talking with some soldier boy….it is just too good. If I ever find it again, TRex, we must get much mileage out of it.
OBTW, most excellent post.
Suskind’s book out has some interesting post-medal takes from Tenet as to information access and transparency.
It’s all at the end - not that I’ve finished. Sometimes, though, I just open a book and read the chapter that it opens at, or go to the end and read backwards for a chapter or two= not bottom of page to top of page backwards, but last page, then next to last, then on through first - you see things a bit differently.
I posted at Huffpo on the NYT issue, but the fact remains for all these stories - it is not news to ANYONE that calls are intercepted, people are followed, transactions are audited, etc. What idiot does not think those things are going on? The only “news” coming out is that those things are going on with no supervision, no oversight, no warrants, etc. All unilaterally run by the Exec Branch - that same crew who just added losing millions of vets data to losing billions of taxpayers dollars. As per the historians - if the founding fathers looked at George Washington and said: Govt needs check and balances - it is humbling to think how they may have structured our govt if they had been looking, instead, at Cheney or GWB.
FWIW.
btw, Suskind closes out with some meandering thoughts on ends and means and justification of means by importance of ends - and hopeless muddles resulting from failure to define the ends being sought with sufficient clarity to keep the means from becoming untethered, born of “unexamined assumptions” He mentions the loss of strength that finds the west when it pursues goals militarily but immorally. He quotes Deutoronomy 16:20 “Justice, Justice, This you must pursue.” and goes on to say:
“Justice - an overused word these days - is not mentioned twice, however, for added emphasis. Here Hebrew scholars agree - and they don’t agree on much - that it’s once for the means, and once for the ends. “
p348 OnePercentSolution
A final note from the same source. Suskind recounts meeting with William Sloane Coffin before Coffin’s death. Coffin looks at Suskind and says:
“I never thought I’d live to see the day when old-fashioned journalism would be a form of civil disobedience.”
“At least under those guys, Malkin would be wrapped from head to foot in a burkha and forced to SHUT THE FUCK UP and go sit quietly in another part of the house.”
And I would be beheaded.
…so (for now): not worth it.
Excellent post. This is quite a rare and sensational treat, seeing a young pundit bloom.
Grafix credit?
In moderation, which I always want to write as immoderation.
Enjoy CT and being in the thick of the fight Jane.
“Dick Cheney and Condi Rice both pointed to Mata Whori Miller’s articles as justifications for their posture toward Iraq in 2002.”
That is one of the most outrageous, manipulative deceptions this maladministration has perpetrated on the American people. “Leak information” to gullible, airheaded reporters–feed them false “facts”–and then when they publish it like good stenographers, use their publications as media “sources” for the lies that you wished to propagate. Refer to their published reports as evidence of the “truth” of your factual claims. Utter contempt both for their media shills and their audience.
This is all part of the Rove “The Weasel” 2006 campaign swiftboating.
Doesn’t have anything to do with reality since they make their own
fantasyreality! Ya know, up is down, in is out, stupid is smart, that kinda thing.The Weasel and his pet Monkey Junior have worn out their welcome (if they were ever welcome at anything but a wingnut revival), and this stuff ain’t gonna sell anymore.
Won’t stop ‘em from trying, but ain’t nobody buying!
Seriously though, the name of the game for these guys is all offense, all the time.
While we’re distracted with this, they’re off making some other atrocity possible.
They do it each day, and while we’re ranting (rightfully) about one thing (NY Times nonsense) they’re sliding something else past the public (Net Neutrality/Signing Statements/Iraq).
I reread your post from the other night TRex. The one about never playing defense. It really is an important lesson. Unfortunately, switching the debate is tough, especially against the mighty wurlizter which stirs up and creates the “issue of the day”.
Just remember it’s just to stir up the base, demonize the opponent, and facilliate sleight of hand.
After all, if a debate on the merits is allowed to proceed, they lose.
Hey Mary! You’ve been posting such great stuff recently - but then you always do! just wanted to thank you for all of the great info!
Just got back from seeing “Who Killed the Electric Car?”
If they didn’t have optimistic people at the end, it would make you want to explode. It’s hard to believe that such an excellent film would follow “An Inconvenient Truth,” but it has. Please go see it when it comes to your area.
The thing about the Taliban is they were repressive medieval theocrats - but they were honest repressive medieval theocrats. No exceptions, not even for the leaders.
Jim
Notice Noron’s expression when Olberman finished her piece off with a rebuke to BushCo about the quality of info they hand out? She went blank (revert to type)…
OT, via dKos: You probably all know already that there’s a movement afoot to have individual states introduce impeachment proceedings in Congress, which is permissible under its rules.
Several states have been moving in that direction, and one of them is California - and right now they are gathering petition signatures online. So California Firepups, if you are so moved, please sign and pass the link on to anyone else you know in our fair state. I’ll post the link on the Roots list as well.
Oh, P.S. - the deadline for signatures is Friday!
Siun - you are a gem - thanksmuch. Now that I have mastered cut and paste, I’m a menace.
Night all - I’m off to try to shed some crankiness with sleep.
Jane #25 - damn, where have I seen that? If I find it I will so let you know.
Watching the late showing of Countdown, I think perhaps Keith O. has delivered his best-ever slapdown of Bill O’Reilly. It’s nice to see soneone who so enjoys his work.
Jane @ 25
This one?
http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.co.....publi.html
If anyone missed KO’s “factor fiction” tonite, FIND IT!
Man, I’m laughing a lot tonight.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to lay my hands on that Judy Miller “Patsy and Edina go to Iraq” photo and I just can’t find it.
Here it is:
http://www.tnr.com/graphics200.....miller.jpg
WaPoO chats tomorrow, questions accepted right now if you’re so inclined….
WH Reporter Michael Fletcher at 11 eastern
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00717.html
Gwen Ifill at Noon:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00469.html
Dana Priest on National Security at 2pm:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01001.html
Help push progressive questions at MSM journalists — oh, and also Gwen!
Judy of the desert?
I’ll find a closer shot. Just wait.
Hey Jane…
Is THIS the picture you’re talking about? I love the title of the article as well… “The New Republic Licks Judy Miller’s Combat Boots!”
I’m a pretty good web sleuth so if that’s not the pic you’re talking about, give me a description and I’ll root around for it.
newtonusr, TRex — yep, that’s the one. Thanks, I needed that for my collection.
Newtonusr… Jinx!
Or at least almost jinx. You’re a bit faster unless you beat me to the gun because I was typing the whole “a href=” thingey. :-)
And TRex. Great stuff as usual.
Whoops! Thanks, Leslie.
AAARRGGGHHH
Again the mad dog besmirshes the weasel family by smearing us with the Rove brush!
Of course the NYT is gonna get slammed by the wackos on the right…while leaving the WSJ the hell alone. I guess the Times shoulda taken those full page ads from Haliburton lauding the administration move to get the WMD’s…er, those Osama connections…no, no, wait…o yes freedom for Iraq—-right after the civil war.
What a fucking mess to clean up after a dry drunk!
Great piece TRex!
Nate
You know how sometimes you save a link for no good reason…
Not faster - just more packrat.
Ian Welsh #35
“but they [the Taliban] were honest repressive medieval theocrats.”
Well, as long as they were honest murderous thugs, that makes all the difference.
This isn’t the “Judy” photo Jane was looking for, but it’s kind of interesting:
http://www.oldmatador.com/imag....._small.jpg
Here’s another one:
http://www.bartcop.com/judith-miller-pail.jpg
neurophius 51, that will make BobbyG’s day, no, week. He has quite a thing for MoDo, but it’s only physical.
fartsinsleep at 48:
AAARRGGGHHH…Again the mad dog besmirshes the weasel family by smearing us with the Rove brush!
If the shoe fits or the brush smears…*g*
Without digesting the post, or reading the comments –
Snark in the face of Tyranny — is like . . .
is like . . .
is like Lenny Bruce trying to stand down the 1941 Blitzkrieg, like the Tienanmen square dude . . .
But the Blitz doesn’t slow down for nuttin’ — so the best you can hope for is your bones jammin’ the treads on a lead tank.
So what I’m sayin’ is — frontal assault with flame throwers and hand grenades is the only way we can stop these fuckers . . .
Snark is great, for maintaining morale among the faithful, and drawing in recruits . . .
But beyond that, it will win zip nada . . .
neurophius @ 51, 52
All your antidepressants are belong to us. Jesus!
And then there’s this, from The Heretik:
http://images.google.com/imgre.....f&sa=G
newtonusr at 9:59 p.m.:
I’ll stop now. I promise.
mad dogs -54
well that’ll just mean more dirt baths to try to get that rovian stench off of the clan.
gawd, the world is going to hell in a hand basket and all i can do is engage in silliness…but it saves a lot of lives ’cause otherwise you’d find me in a tower witha stolen rifle making incoherent statments.
pass the prozac
[quote]New York Times reporter Judith Miller played a highly unusual role in an Army unit assigned to search for dangerous Iraqi weapons, according to U.S. military officials, prompting criticism that the unit was turned into what one official called a “rogue operation.”
More than a half-dozen military officers said that Miller acted as a middleman between the Army unit with which she was embedded and Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmed Chalabi, on one occasion accompanying Army officers to Chalabi’s headquarters, where they took custody of Saddam Hussein’s son-in-law. She also sat in on the initial debriefing of the son-in-law, these sources say.
Since interrogating Iraqis was not the mission of the unit, these officials said, it became a “Judith Miller team,” in the words of one officer close to the situation.[/quote]
from here.
It’s been a weird couple of years, hasn’t it?
The wingnuts defended Jeff Gannon as a journalist and now they want (errr … demand) that the NY Times be tried for treason. That about sums up their journalism litmus test.
It defies parody.
OBTW, most excellent post.
Thank ya berrymussshhh.
I still get such a kick out of posting here. Something about that feeling of counting down, hitting ‘Publish’, and knowing that your words are going straight to so many remarkable minds, all at once. It gives me goosebumps. It’s the closest thing to mental telepathy that technology has produced.
Sometimes I wish I could hear the parts where people actually laugh out loud, though.
Snark is great, for maintaining morale among the faithful, and drawing in recruits . . .
Wrong.
The most powerful thing that a person can possibly do is make the enemy look ridiculous in the eyes of the populace.
You can have a revolution without ever firing a shot.
thinking of Judith Miller on her WMD snipe hunt with her own personal military unit running around just to the east, north, south and west of Baghdad, is making me tired. I am turning in.
Nice job, TRex.
G’night, everyone.
hmmmm … no one but Reuters is reporting the “chemical” missile which Reuters say Al Aqsa is claiming and Reuters seems to be downplaying that report now (on page 3 of their latest and coupled with an Israeli claim that no such weapon was fired at their forces)
So how is it ok for Israel to simply round up almost the whole duly elected government of Palestine and announce the planned assasination of the head of Hamas and other Hamas leaders living in Syria - Israel now claims the right to attack them there (per the Times of India) so we will soon have Israel not simply flying over the Syrian presidential palace but apparently attacking there.
When do the Palestinians get the right of self-defense which the WH confirmed again today for the Israelis?
…seriously OT but very seriously: please let your senators know it’s
NOT OKAY TO SLAUGHTER the WILD MUSTANG
EVER!!!!!
See the Huffpost story on Senate traitor Conrad Burns who is up to his old sleazey tricks again selling out to devil cattle ranchers. This must be stopped and the only way is to write or call or email your senate people and tell them NO!!! It is rider #142 attached to the Federal Appropriations Bill HR 4848.
NO SLAUGHTER OF WILD MUSTANG AND BURROS - NOT NOW
NOT EVER
PS I had hoped Burns would be caught up in the Abramoff sting and thrown out of the Senate
Spiderpaws:
After seeing the Burns/Tester debate the other night, I think there’s a good thing that Burns will get beat in November and thrown out in January. Hope that is not too late for your wild horses.
there’s a good chance
So if the NYT rehires Judi, will Rove call off the dogs?
No?
Sorry, Bill. I tried.
… the same New York Times that hyped North Korean missile launch for a week, only to come tiptoing in with this weak stuff yesterday? How wike a sewpent’s toof, indeed. (h/t Defense Tech, by way of TruthDig)
So if the NYT rehires Judi, will Rove call off the dogs?
That sooooo makes me wish I worked at the Times, just so I could nail my coworkers like this:
Rex emerges from the elevator, ashen faced, looking blankly around the news room.
“What is it, Rex? You look awful.”
“Those stupid fucks are re-hiring Judy Miller. She’s going to be Assistant Editor.”
Can you imagine the facial expressions?
“Okay, they’re not. Just kidding. Who wants to order a pizza?”
Oh, TRex, that is evil. I like it.
Seriously, I think I’m going to call the news desk tomorrow and ask for a statement on Pinch and Keller’s decision to rehire Judy. See if I can make the person who answers the phone drop the receiver.
Hey, Jane — is this the photo you’re looking for?
I found it at HuffPo, in this article about her bogus “security clearance.” Entertaining nugget attached to the photo:
TRex, you naughty boy. *g*
I should say I’m Matt Drudge.
Morpheus is descending with a vengeance . . . ‘night, all.
#69….TOOO LATE! …we can’t wait for that…think of the last wild mustang IN THE WORLD gallopping free then picture it in dog food cans…the best meat will become steaks served to Tokyo diners.
Please don’t let these fine horses down everyone, such a small thing to make this call…every time animal rights people think the horses are safe CONRAD BURNS SNEAKS IT BACK INTO SOME BILL!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
Had a terrible week working on several saves and losing most of them - then this…GG bridge meet spiderpaws…good bye cruel world!
By now I would imagine the receiver is a strap on….. head set.
I would love to hear the call though. TRex your posts are like a 45, sun studios on one side and motown on the other.
Dang, not quick enough. Next time I’ll tell my wife to wait on help with that backup while I deal with more important things. Or maybe not… *g*
;(
By now I would imagine the receiver is a strap on… head set.
In that case, you could probably hear their head exploding. Neat!
(Oh, and just so you don’t think I missed the original double-entendre — Ewwww!)
meat will become steaks served to Tokyo diners….
not exactly Basacchi (sp?) Is what one says when ordering raw horse meat in Japaneese dinning. Was informed I was eating it in Fukuoka City once.
…please don’t tell me horsemeat stories…what I want to hear is just one of you firepups say “Yeah I’ll make that call” …
ok HR4848 will e-mail Conrad Burns.
I wonder what story the NYT has that Bushco is trying to get them to kill?
Just remember, spidey. November is almost right around the corner. Not everything these people have done to our world can be undone, but a lot of it can. Which is why we have to stay focused. Yes, feel the frustration and anguish, but reach for the hope that lies just beyond it.
And yes, I’ll make that call.
Hey, can you guess what sign I am?
spiderpaws
I’m in.
Aries !!! rhymes with Lamb
spider, i’m in too
Lamb that is
On a related topic, can someone tell me why “Time” magazine let Rove have a column in this week’s issue? Memo to “Time”: According to YOUR OWN MAGAZINE, Karl Rove leaked Valerie Plame’s identity to the press. To this day, he has not publicly admitted doing so, and there are still uncorrected denials out there from the White House. What’s more newsworthy? This story, or a puff piece on Teddy Roosevelt?
dear T-Rex,
There simply aren’t adequate words to properly thank you for your post.
Suffice it to say you managed to snap this old newspaper brat out of a three-day funk.
Kudos Kid! I owe you big time!
TRex your posts are like a 45, sun studios on one side and motown on the other.
Aw, thanks. I just saw this comment.
But you know what’s even better than Motown?
Stax/Volt.
TRex - lol that was a couple of posts back… attack attack!!!!
Frank Probst - Seeing Tom Delay on Hardball today was just as disturbing. There is no shame.
I was feeling pretty down today after Snowe-Dorgan failed to make it through committee… but I’m very inspired by Sen. Wyden, who put a hold on the bill. Net Neutrality is crucial if we’re going to keep places like FDL thriving. Please call Wyden to give him support and ask your senators to stand with him.
http://apoeticjustice.blogspot.....amlet.html
FOX TORTURE
http://apoeticjustice.blogspot.....bling.html
I got ya spider, and I’ve passed it on to my late-teen daughter. I’m guessing the entire US undergraduate population will have it by morning. These kids are good!
Dover Bitch - Can Wyden hold it in committee after a vote?
here’s the way this discussion MUST be presented
there is NO doubt, EVERYONE knew we monitor financial records and transactions in the search for terrorism
none
the president told us so himself, just days after we were attacked on September 11th
the swift peration has their own website, and every bit of this information is already public knowledge, already known by Americans, the world, and terrorists
THE ONLY NEW INFORMATION IN THIS NEW YORK TIMES REPORT IS THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IT WITHOUT OVER SITE
that’s it
we REALLY NEED TO ALLOW THIS DISCUSSION TO GO IN THE DIRECTION, AND MAKE SURE WE MAKE IT CLEAR that the only thing that is new in this article is that there are no warrants for this activity
when we turn the tide of the discussion to these facts, there will be nothing but embarrassment for those that think the new York times did something wrong in this case
Giving credit where credit is due, this is a brilliant Republican attack. Even when the media itself is getting smeared, they can’t seem to call bullshit. Newsflash: This is your put-up or shut-up moment. If you blow this, your last shred of credibility will be gone. For once, please do us all a favor and step up to the damn plate.
The little devil on my shoulder is hoping this resolution passes, just to spite the Times. (How long did you guys sit on this one?) The little angel on my other shoulder (who’s way too optimistic at the moment) is hoping that the Times just sits back and waits a week and then throws out a whole bunch of slander lawsuits. (Statements made on the floor of Congress are off limits, of course, but I’d love to see a bunch of people get hit for spewing crap on Faux News. I can see them on the witness stand already: “You mean the stuff we say has to be TRUE?”)
Hi spider -
I’m in, too. Thanks for your concern and passion for the wild horses.
Eureka Springs, AR 102,
Here’s how mcjoan at kos explains it:
spiderpaws - some questions…
In reading the Bandera Bulletin piece:
Where is Montana on this (aside from Burns, of course)? Anyone ask Jon Tester?
Where’s the third slaughterhouse? Montana, maybe?
Senator Burns: “We’re gonna let’em shoot’em.”
Public: “With a 150 to 1 steer to wild horse ratio, why Mustangs and burros?”
Senator Burns: “The equine are more, how should I say this, sporting. We want to be fair, ya’know?”
marksb - Brilliant delegation brilliant.
Eureka Springs, AR says
June 28th, 2006 at 10:50 pm
Frank Probst - Seeing Tom Delay on Hardball today was just as disturbing. There is no shame.
———————————————————-
His “Valerie Plame wasn’t a CIA agent.” statement is going to bite him in the ass, methinks. As a general rule, I think it’s unwise to belittle CIA agents.
I cant tell you how many times Ive tried to lay my hands on that Judy Miller Patsy and Edina go to Iraq photo
Well, I can’t find it either, so I guess we’ll have to make do with
this.
TRex my second guess, Sagittarius.
Frank Hope you are right.
Dover Thanks. Thought McCains little resolution was a good one, very telling in and of itself, failing to pass.
Oh, Eureka, I thought you were telling me you were an Aries.
I am a pure Gemini.
I went the extra mile and got a real live twin as well.
I wanted to guess the twin sign, thought that was to high on a coincidence meter.
Knuckledragger at 11:00 p.m.
Wow! That’s better than the ones I came up with. It took me a minute to figure out whom Judy bears such a striking resemblance to.
So watching pundits bloviate on the television is disturbing? Thank god I’m completely deaf. I literally cannot watch that crap. the captioning is so far behind, they often go to commercial long before the text has caught up. Punditry on television is totally unknown to me. The last time I watched Pox News was, um, 2003.
*Sigh*
There was a time that the government actually condemned torture:
http://www.library.northwester.....207-03.jpg
They have a good collection of WWII Posters at this link: http://www.library.northwester.....i-posters/
I’m pretty sure this is where the Malkinites were getting their source material for their horrible photoshops.