
The net neutrality fight moves to the Senate this week, with Ted Steven's Senate Commerce Committee set to vote on the bill on Thursday. Time to pick up the phones again, boys and girls, because this is crunch time.
Save the Internet has a great excerpt from a debate with Mike McCurry and Amazon.com’s Paul Misener on the net neutrality issue. PoliticsTV has video of the debate -- it's great. As Misener says:
"That’s not the way the Internet works. The Internet does not have all this content in there unless the user asks for it. When you hit return on your browzer it actually sends out a ‘get command’ to the server; it’s a very illustrative name for a command in computer code. It actually says ‘get’– that means now send me the file. That file never gets into the pipes owned by the network operators that Mike represents unless their customer who’s paid for that access asks for it. So we’re not clogging their pipes at all. We’re only providing the content that we hope our joint customers want to see."
It's a great debate, and one that is well worth watching for the back and forth. Are we going to continue to have a free exchange of ideas -- or are we going to have to pay double to some corporate gatekeeper in order to have any sort of discussion? Who gets to decide what is or is not appropriate discourse -- the free market or corporate gatekeepers? With what are you comfortable on this issue? These are the questions you ought to be asking yourself -- and your elected representatives.
You can contact the members of the Senate Commerce Committee via the main switchboard toll free at: 1-888-355-3588. Or you can contact them individually at the following phone and fax numbers:
When you have Sen. Ted Stevens giving a speech to the TelCo industry, you pretty much know where he stands. But a lot of these Senators are on the bubble, and your phone call or FAX could make all the difference.
UPDATE: Also, please contact Sen. Arlen Specter, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and ask that he consider oversight on the legality of this issue. 202-224-4254
UPDATE #2: As Dover Bitch reminds us in the comments -- letters to the editor and calls to talk radio are also much appreciated to put more local pressure on Senators on this issue. Use BobbyG's success as incentive. (Go, BobbyG!)
UPDATE #3: Josh is keeping a handy tally on who does or does not support the net neutrality issue. (Thanks to reader NJ Progressive for the tip.)
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Can we impeach the bastard yet?
rootz!
OT.
Those ingrates at Guantanimo get all of this plus that delcious rice pilaf. What are they bitching about?
Welcome to The New World Order.
(Snip)
Beating; punching with fists; use of truncheons; kicking; slamming against walls; stretching or suspension (to tear ligaments or muscles to cause asphyxia); external electric shocks; forcing prisoners to abase and to urinate on themselves; forced masturbation; forced renunciation of religion; false confessions or accusations; applying urine and feces to prisoners; making verbal threats to a prisoner and his family; denigration of a prisoner’s religion; force-feeding; induced hypothermia and exposure to extreme heat; dietary manipulation; use of sedatives; extreme sleep deprivation; mock executions; water immersion; “water-boarding”; obstruction of the prisoner’s airway; chest compression; thermal burning; rape; dog bites; sexual abuse; forcing a prisoner to watch the abuse or torture of a loved one.
-GSD
Woot! Gotcha Teddy.
Go Ogle!
~
1-888-355-3588 FREE call to congress… it works for your Senator and Representative.
fitz
The SF Chronicle had a front page article “Speed Bumps on the Information Highway” yesterday as the “First in an occasional series” on NN. It’s a pretty good piece for introducing folks to the debate.
Sadly, it’s coming as the debate has already come and gone in the House . . .
[Which prompts a big Q for any former or current MSM reporters around these parts: Why is it that the MSM generally reports on big debates AFTER the vote happens, rather than during committee hearings when concerned citizens can make their views known in time to influence the process? Just wondering.]
I couldn’t find a fax number for Barbara Boxer. If anyone has one, I’d be happy to put it up. Just post it here and I’ll find it. Thanks!
“Is this the party to whom I am speaking?”
Barbara Boxer fax
DC Fax: 202-228-2382
Call your favorite radio shows and write your local papers, too. We need as many people as possible on this.
I read this weekend that the LA Times has prevented at least one of their offices from being able to see the blog LA Observed, which often writes about their business dealings. Look at what the Tribune company owns in addition to the Times and consider the large number of people that get their information from one company — a company that is already demonstrating a propensity for censoring unfavorable information.
It’s not a hypothetical to say that companies will prevent people from getting information if they can. They already are in the limited ways they can.
Boxer’s district office fax #s here, nothing posted for DC
If I wanted service like AOL, that censors what sites can be access, I would have purchased their service. Since I didn’t, it means I want to be able to pick and choose where I go on the ‘net.
The telecos want everyone but themselves to pay for their mistakes in usage forcasts.
Forgot the link:
“Speed Bumps”
[Repeat after me: Preview is my friend. Preview is my friend. Preview is my friend. . . .]
egregious at 12 — thanks SO much! I knew I had one for her somewhere, but could not find it this morning to post for everyone. Really appreciate you posting it.
OT and don’t try this at home:
Juan Cole deep-fries a Snowball
(second thread down)
Net Neutrality: What Works For You? — By Dover Bitch
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....s-for-you/
Can we assemble another list of talking points? Can we identify issues that would play better with GOoPer Senators?
As in — Dear Senator Allard: A vote against Net Neutrality will destroy the American Economy. Sincerely, A Citizen.
Things like that — Dem Senators will be moved by fear of losing the netroots ATM; what will move the GOoPers?
Christy, sometimes I create problems *cough*hotheaded Iraq post*cough* and sometimes I solve problems.
Ideally leaning toward the latter….
punaise @ 10
We’re dating ourselves….
“Is this Nunzio Passanello?”
All sorts of businesses relying (increasingly) on the internet, not just for e-commerce interfaces with the public but for internal uses between offices, suppliers, vendors, etc.
Why haven’t they flexed their lobbying muscle in support of net neutrality? Or, would businesses internet related costs go down? I guess I’m not up to speed on the issue, but who (aside from telecoms and bloggers) are the winners and losers if net neutrality is abandoned?
Christy, thanks for starting the morning with laughs, and now moving into activism and information. Dorgan’s my senator and he’s a sponsor with Snowe for Net Neutrality, so I’ll send an enote thanking him, and save the phoning for an issue that needs advocacy toward his decision.
Caring thoughts to Jane and her family during these long, stress-full hours.
GSD
What is your source for the quote on Guantanamo torture? Thank you in advance.
BobbyG’s letter in the newspaper!
Yay for the good guys!
egregious at 20 — I think everyone has been edgy the last few weeks. We’re tried from the Vegas trip, we’re exhausted from the constant stream of crap news coming out of the Bush Administration and frustrated with the Dems not fighting back perhaps as hard as we would like. I know I’ve been feeling it, and I’m sure others are as well. But don’t worry about it — we’ll get through it together because that’s what we do. :) And in the meantime, there are some Senators in need of a nudge…
Right on BobbyG!!!!
egregious 25 -
Thanks. They got it close. Not quite the max effect. I’m sure my hardcore Reep former boss will be cursing my name if he sees it.
http://www.bgladd.com/Just_a_Number.jpg
aw-RIGHT, BobbyG!!!
Thanks so much for the link, egregious 25!
Wow, that’s good stuff.
There are two areas that business has not put in their two cents and am really suprised.
1. NSA Spying or the ATT tap into every communication
2. Net Neutrality
I work for a software company, but I could name hundreds of business types who would want their communications private and unimpeded. You deal with source code and database configurations, does that business wants that information viewable by a possible rival?
Just think of dealing with a legal issue, you are communicating with your attorney via email, sending and receiving documents. What if that is your legal defense against the goverment?
Business runs on Just in Time shipping and warehousing. What if Walmart gets the 11 lane super highway and Costco gets pushed into the dirt?
I just do not get it…
OT ..I know.
GSD your 3
would appreciate your input regarding our two recently captured…
If in fact they are in hand and not dead already do you think the insurgency might publicly declare them illegal combatants?
{{{{{{Applause}}}}}}}
BobbyG!
Bobby G!!!!!
Dover bitch,
This post by Lee really lays it all out there, I think. People will be steered to or away from political views, info, opinions based on who’s doing the deciding!
Aaargh!
glc
Lee said:
June 17th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
Competitive information: Without Net Neutrality, there’s no reason the companies controlling your web access won’t deny access to information they don’t like.
But why not come out and say that this can include POLITICAL information that they don’t like? Without net neutrality the telecom industry can control political speech on the internet every bit as much as they already control political speech on TV. Compared to this the fact that they’d also be charging us more is peanuts. The fact that they could be steering us to online retailer A rather than online retailer B also pales in comparison.
It is THIS danger, of corporations controlling the content that users can access (in practice, affordably, etc.) on the internet, that should form the core of the message.
ALL of the major analogies proffered thus far have merit; cable TV model, AOL Model, toll/private road model, etc. Use them all. “Representational Re-Distribution,” one of Gardner’s “7 Re’s” of persuasion.
My other graphic effort of the week (non-political):
http://photos1.blogger.com/blo.....Monday.jpg
The band for whom I do PR is not gigging tonight.
:(
http://santafeandthefatcityhorns.blogspot.com/
Does anybody have a good template for faxable verbage on this? thanks
Discovered something cool at the DNC blog over the weekend. They have a tool for people interested in writing letters to the editor http://www.democrats.org/page/.....stoeditors
Fill in your zip and it gives you the local and national papers you can write to. I didn’t fill one out all the way, so I don’t know if they keep a copy at the DNC.
One of my Senators is on record for Net Neutrality and the other is still fence sitting. None of them are on the committee, so I’ll wait to contact Mr. Wait and See because I swear the people in his office are going to start recognizing my voice (or name and email) and put me into a “malcontent voter” category and to not take seriously.
By the way, everyone keeps talking about a Preznit Pardon for Libby (how convenient to pardon your own lackey’s crimes). It’s probably a trial balloon. I wonder if ithe people have to shoot it down now.
Here’s one easy talking point: the internet backbone operators (”telco” has become a perjorative) already have two revenue streams. They are paid by content providers such as Google and Yahoo for providing them access to the internet, and they are paid by ISP’s for the right to provide service to us, the consumers. Both of these revenue streams are legitimate.
Removing the Net Neutrality protections, as this bill will, will allow companies to create a third revenue stream based based on type of service. What right do they have to create this third revenue stream?
g. leo criley,
Great. Say it’s political information. I fear that political information will be censored more than anything.
BUT… the point of my post is that we need everybody on our side in this. And that means calling into a radio program about fixing your car and explaining that you might not be able to find all the parts you need anymore. Or calling into a show about investing and explaining that you will be buying stocks online with a smaller selection of brokers and fewer places to research your investments — the information you’ll get is what your local telecom wants you to get.
We need more than the political junkies to get upset about what Mike McCurry is trying to do to the Internet. We need everybody.
Hey, BobbyG - way to go! Your original letter was so good, I never doubted they would publish it. Definitely packed more punch in the original version, but the edited one is still a knockout!
Agree totally with Christy. In addition to the post-YKos tiredness, there was the dispiriting Rove news and the realization that we still have 4 months to go until November elections and none of us is feeling like we can let up for a second. When you add the demands of work and family, it’s just plain daunting.
One day at a time seems like a good way to look at what lies ahead.
Here in Nevada we learned that Jon Porter is in favor of turning the ‘net over to the Suits. Prick. He’s hearing from me.
newtonusr says:
June 19th, 2006 at 9:40 am
punaise @ 10
We’re dating ourselves%u2026.
“Is this Nunzio Passanello?”
You guy’s forgot the classic Thomlin.
One ringy-dingy, two ringy-dingy.
Larry,
That is of course the question that no one has sought to ask that block-headed, weeping, talking point machine, Tony Snow.
This is exactly why the Crumbsfeld/Yoo/Cheney “sliding scale of torture and compliance with international law” is so damn reckless.
It will never be any of those pudwipes that will be abused as a result of the ill-will fomented by the shit pulled in Abu Ghraib or in Guantanimo.
Nope, it will be, surprise, surprise, the young, fresh faced troops in the field who will be shown the videos and pictures of US abuse towards Iraqis and others. They will then most likely then be treated much more harshly and most likely killed.
The US troops in custody are in much more jeopardy than if the US had maintained SOP from the previous 250 years or so.
But noooooo. The Bush/Rove/Cheney crowd know what is good for he us.
Hardly.
These two troops fates are directly tied to the abuse and torture that Bush machine created. They are in dire straits.
-GSD
Bustedknuckles 43 - impossible to capture that Tomlinesque “snort” via mere typed letters.
PRESIDENT BUSH SAYS FITZGERALD’S INVESTIGATION IS OVER
http://citizenspook.blogspot.c.....html#links
BobbyG - Awesome! Damned well done!
GSD at 44 — that is a HUGE worry, and you are absolutely right in saying that it needs to be brought up over and over — by press, by members of Congress, by military families, by all of us.
The danger is that we have breached the standard of conduct that we have held up for years as being unbreachable, so that now the gloves are off in terms of how our own soldiers will be treated in captivity. You might say that they were previously off in some quarters, and that’s unfortunately true, but the Rumsfeld/Yoo/Miller/whomever policies have only reinforced that and added fuel to the fire. I’m very, very worried about where this goes from here. And there is NO excuse for putting our soldiers at even more risk. None.
citizenspook: It’s not over until FITZGERALD says it’s over.
Spook — please don’t start spamming article links in the comments threads. I have enough to deal with today as it is.
GSD
Sadly, I must agree.
Thanks for your response.
L
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....chive.html
See YouTube for a cool Net Neutrality video PSA by Comitar Studios ( http://www.comitar.com/ ), this short explains why network neutrality is an important issue for internet users through a series of short comparisons to traditional utilities.
The music is by Jacques Grant (the song “Everything’s Gonna Be Alright”) and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.0 license. Visit http://www.podsafeaudio.com/jamroom/bands/740/ for more of his music.
I thought the examples used in the debate were excellent - an HMO comparison was used, and everyone understands and hates that concept.
The simpler the better, I think, for most people. I was having this conversation at a Father’s Day gathering yesterday and used the HMO analogy. Said, “you know how you’d really like to go see Doctor X, and your HMO says you can’t because he’s not in the plan? Well, if the telecoms get their way, you might want to go to Amazon and get switched to Barnes & Noble, or want to check out Merrill Lynch and get switched to Charles Schwab. You might no longer have the same kind of choice about what sites are available to you. Or you could find that you can still get to all the sites you want, but some will load in an instant and others will take forever, so you’ll tend to go to the faster site. If Barnes & Noble loads faster than Amazon, you’ll probably go there, even if Amazon was your first choice, and if Barnes & Noble is paying more to be able to load quickly, it might be that you’ll be paying more for their books as a result. Great for Barnes & Noble, bad for Amazon and bad for you.”
It was like little light bulbs went on - “oh, I get it!”
Fax template make one, change only the name.
FAX
TO Senator I. M. Egregious
FROM [you, silly]
DATE 19 June 2006
Dear Senator:
I hope that you will support Net Neutrality.
Something here about free speech, equal access, internet as a public utility like electricity, small business growth to keep
us competitive internationally, phone company
shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate based
on who is calling etc etc. Go wild.
Thank you,
Sincerely,
you, address.
This is an excerpt from Dahr Jamail’s latest article wrt the issue of the captured US forces, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>
The evening of Day Three, two US soldiers were detained by resistance fighters just south of Baghdad. With a Bush administration that openly advocates the use of torture and props up a Shia Prime Minister in Iraq who says things like “there will be no mercy” when referencing his new “security operation,” their fate is indeed a dark one.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061906J.shtml
Slightly OT, but in the spirit of this week’s activism, a couple of pocketbook progressive opportunities:
Buy the Syriana DVD–out tomorrow. Was underplayed in initial release–too complicated for the pie-crowd of Faux?
And according to a piece at Huffington Post, Helen Thomas’ new book will be released this week. Buy one for yourself, another for your local library…or after you read, donate it.
I plan to buy both. As the Big Oil ratty bastards memed on MTP yesterday, let the marketplace speak.
The source for the quote came from a book by Stephen Miles.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....oding=UTF8
I was brought to the quote at AndrewSullivan.com.
Whatever problems I have with most of Sullivan’s poltical views, he has been very strong on condemning the US abuse and torture and has highlighted the stories over and over and has alienated much of the right wing because of his vigilence.
The pages of history are chasing Bush and Rove and that is why they have been running so fast.
The canard that these “men” care for the US troops wellbeing is abudantly clear to most sober people.
-GSD
egregious 53 - thanks. I’m off to fax the Honorable Babs.
I was reading Sterling N at tpmcafe re NN and he talked about the importance of free roadways to commerce (when they were first built)in an analogy of the importance of NN. I am sitting here at “The Crossroads of America” where, in order to go almost anywhere other here I have to fill up my tank with many $$$ worth of gas, and then pay a toll to drive west, many tolls (10?) to drive northwest, two mega tolls to drive north, and a toll that is probably going up now that the Indiana Toll Road has been leased to a private company, to drive east. That’s why net neutrality is important to me. Right now if I want to go anywhere, I pay and pay and pay. Oh, and btw, back when we were building the interstate system, Big Auto killed the wonderful streetcar system we had here that, while not free, was very cheap. I guess this should be an lte, bcse here at fdl I am just singin’ to the choir…
Anne 52 -
Yes, use every analogy possible to get the point across, HMO, AOL, Toll Road, Cable TV, Chinese Internet (overt content control)…
Point out that the Suits are out to etract MORE money from individuals AND e-commerce business, and will eventually be able to control and suppress political information.
Maria Cantwell still running and hiding on the NN vote.
Direct quotes from her staff person on the phone:
“She’s still studying the bill”,
“She hasn’t told us [who work for her] how she plans to vote”,
“We just don’t know anything”,
“We probably won’t know anything until the very last minute, like you”
“Well, the senator does believe in access to the internet. Would you like me to read from the prepared statement?”
“You’d like to speak with Michael Daum [tech issues aide]? Sure, let me connect you [3- minute wait] Oh gee, I guess he’s not here. Would you like his voice mail?”
It was practically word-for-word what they said last Thursday. Maria’s spinelessness is just getting boring, I’m afraid.
Time to hit up the other senators - thank you for the phone list!
*BobbyG rocks.
Mercenary Industrial Complex.
Deadeye Dick Cheney loves them big returns on his investments.
Rawstory to report:
“Halliburton government contracts rose
600 percent under Bush: Developing…”
-GSD
Okay, I sent my faxes
but hey, haven’t heard anything either way on this issue from goopers and fundies - considering how far out in front these folks were in using the internet as part of their organizing and noisemaking -
so I sent e mails to Webmaster(s) at
Joel Osteen’s Mega Church
TD Jakes Mega Church
Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum
Falwell
and whazisname @ Crystal Cathedral in SoCal
with a brief explanation and likely impact of non neutrality (folks being steered away from their sites to others paying premium, etc.)
I feel slimy as all hell, but thought it was worth a shot - it was fun to think of all those “righteous” boots on the ground helping us out
Today’s BushCo CODE BROWN word:
“Taepodong-2″
GSD 44 et al. — I just can’t fathom how the Joint Chiefs or any other generals could have saluted smartly when Rumsfeld’s shop cooked up these disastrous policies. They HAD TO KNOW what to expect!
[OT for you Katherine (”Alligator Bag”) Harris fans out there: I just added her latest staff escapade(s) to the Monday Funnies thread (at 155).]
I called the Newark [NJ] offices of my two senators, Lautenberg, who sits on the Commerce committee, and Menendez. Both offices took information from me, and I had my handy FDL crib sheet of talking points ready. I expressed my concern that neither of my senators had come out strongly in favor of Net Neutrality. When I called Menendez’s office, they transferred me to his DC office. Lautenberg’s Newark staffer took down information, and hadn’t heard that Stevens had scheduled the Commerce Committee vote.
Don’t forget to check Josh Marhsall’s Net Neutrality tally to see where your senator stands on this issue–for, against, or still with a finger checking to see where the prevailing winds are blowing.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/net-neutrality.php
lotus 64 -
Didja know I acquired a photo of Alligator Bag Harris’s tattoos?
http://www.bgladd.com/Katherine_Harris_tattoos.jpg
Are we urging them to support the Snowe-Dorgan bill? S-2917, I think?
The reason I bring this up is because it seems to me the telcos are trying to muddy up what the term net neutrality means, so it’s best we be specific.
apt vintage Ernestine -
“We’re the Phone Company, We Don’t Care, We Don’t Have To”
BobbyG - so proud to know ya
I e-mailed DiFi last week on this, with, IIRC, three analogies plus the they-want-to-charge-a-third-time bit. I specifically mentioned that it’s the Snowe-Dorgan bill, with the number, that she should vote for. (I didn’t think of the speech-control issue. Nice idea!)
Maybe she’ll do the right thing.
cbl 70
[blushes]
Likewise.
Over at ThinkProgress there is a post about Joke Line.
This was the funniest response in the posting section:
“Why does anyone listen to this prattling boob? His sphincter replaced his mouth years ago. Totally unplugged from anything but Joereality.
Comment by ProgressiveChristian %u2014 June 19, 2006 @ 1:07 pm”
Whoo…haaa..
-GSD
Lovely, BobbyG 67 — but YEEESH, cancha do sumpin’ about that smell!!!
If your going to have adds which are against Net Neutrality on your web site, can’t you put a warning saying something like, “FireDogLake is against this add”?
I think people who are new commers to this debate might get confused and tell their Senators the wrong thing.
Lotus your 64 and GSD etc,
Your point about the JCOS allowing this and in fact the rest of the senior command is what I have been unable to wrap my brain around since it first came out and evolved
L
Dover Bitch @ 9:56 am
Absolutely - We do need everybody!
Lee’s post from the other day sang to me today when I saw it.
I wanna be able to look at all sides of a political idea, not just the side my provider else decides I get to see.
I wanna be able to comparison shop and buy the car or computer parts that I need, not the ones my provider decides I get to choose from.
egregious @ 10:13 — template is lookin’ good. Thanks!
glc
cbl @ 10:18
Rev. Robert Schuller at the Crystal Cathedral is a televangelist, but he’s not a fundamentalist. He’s Reformed Church of America, same denomination as Norman Vincent Peale [power of positive thinking]. Did my master’s thesis on the Crystal Cathedral, designed by Philip Johnson, and got to meet Schuller a few years later.
Barry — Jane’s mom is in the hospital at the moment and I’m not sufficiently tech savvy to do anything beyond look at the ad that pops up through our ad software. It’s just going to have to wait — sorry, but there it is. I need remedial computer classes and, frankly, we’ve tried to have a very separate ad content versus actual content line on the blog. (And PS — thank you Mike McCurry for wasting your money here so that we can continue to post things like this article. *g*)
I misposted this to the earlier thread. I’ll catch on eventually LOL.
:::::::
When you write/call/fax, you might want to mention that Senator Ted Stevens’ so called “compromise” has no real consumer protection value whatsoever.
Let’s say VeriZomcast decides to route certain traffic (e.g., traffic to websites that tend to work against the political or financial interests of VeriZomcast) through the older/slower segments of their network. How would a consumer ever be able to provide evidence of such chicanery?
Lets say a media giant (e.g., Fox) procures a stake in VeriZomcast (or vice versa). Which local affiliate do you think will stream video of the local news the fastest?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=1141
Christy 78
Mike gets a % of the ad buy so he really doesn’t care where its placed…typical DEM consultant.
njprogressive,
thanks for the clarification - (although I believe they did some work promoting that bigoted defense of marriage prop. in Calif several years back) I contacted them b/c I had the impression they were an ‘activist’ congregation and was merely trying to martial as many forces FOR net netrality as I could
And as if there weren’t enough mania goin’ on already . . .
National Guard Is Asked to Patrol New Orleans
HEADS UP: the Lamont campaign has a major endorsement announcement coming up around 2:00 pm — will update when I get more details.
Called the Senators closest to me Burns, Smith , & Ensign. Will call more later.
OT - But I received a great e-mail from a friend of mine after I sent her an excerpt for FDL. Here’s part of it, she should really start commenting here.
Thanks for the Firedoglake. I think it’s obvious that when it comes to playing with military toys, the Repubs somehow always muster the time, energy, and money needed to do so. Screw the public schools, Head Start programs, healthcare, afterschool programs, etc. Give everyone a “tax refund”, then turn around and spend $300 billion on an ill-conceived war that is really nothing more than a cowboy idiot trying to finish the job his dad started 15 years ago and couldn’t figure out then.
Yeah, cough up the billions for this shit, and for Halliburton to “rebuild” Iraq, while schools in your own country are literally falling down around the students, books are 20 years out of date and still have maps of Persia in them, so it’s no wonder American kids can’t find fucking Iraq on map. So. Screwy.
It’s terrible that the only time this country can cough up money for anything is when it involves bombing the shit out of another country while squawking about patriotism and democracy. Embarrassing, really. It’s going to be funny as hell in twenty years when the school system has collapsed and China and India are the new superpowers and we’re all trying to learn Mandarin and Hindi and wishing, sigh, that we had placed more importance on schools and education instead of lowering the education bar so low and requiring so little of ourselves in the way of intelligence. I like that, as a country, we like to talk about “the children” and how everything is for “the children”. We must protect the children. When it comes right down to it, however, we don’t do shit for the children. Here are your fucked up schools, here is your urban sprawl with miles and miles of nothing to do but sit inside and play with your electronic gadgetry, here are your parents working 80-hour weeks so they can buy more electronic gadgetry and cars and boats and bigger suburban houses and if you’re lucky a trampoline; here are your colleges and universities with reduced funding and rising tuitions and student loans that are increasingly difficult to obtain. Here is your fucking president who downplays the importance of education, wasted his own years as a legacy student at ivy league universities, and still can’t bring himself to admit that science is actually real. Here is the TV wasteland full of reality shows and sitcoms; here is our consumer and shopping culture and the increasing importance placed on the acquisition of “things” because you’re entitled and they make you happy and good people are good consumers. You’re welcome, kids!
[snip]
Okay. That was my rant for the day. So sorry. I got myself so worked up that the only way to calm down will be for me to go home and look at my Thomas Kinkade pictures.
Ooo, I wish we could clone that Ned!
In the Sentae Commerce Committee link which Christy provides above, we have Sen. Stevens addressing company representatives and state/regional cable association executives at the National Cable and Telecommunications Association’s Key Contacts Breakfast on June 6. Stevens says this about their chief lobbyist:
“He has appeared before our Committee so many times, he has a seat there with his name on it now.” Ouch!
He concludes the speech by giving a bit of (false?) hope. Committee co-chair is Daniel Inouye. Stevens and Inouye have been crafting compromises for years. Inouye is pro- nn, so:
“A new draft [of the legislation] will be circulated this week. I can’t go into the details with you today because I’m still clearing it with Senator Inouye. He’s my partner, my brother, and we work closely together. He has views that aren’t quite mine, however, so we do have to find ways to come together, even the two of us who are Co-Chairmen of our Committee.”
I’ve e-mailed Sen. Murkowski, whose position isn’t yet known, and the local talk shows aren’t supporting Saint Ted.
Dead eye taking questions on cnn.
Cheney taking Qs live on CNN
Perdiddle, angie!
Ahhh, but Weeder 10:16 - don’t forget Sen. Stevens has made sure Alaska got a 200 million $ bridge.
Serious, Probably Stupid Question:
Do the offices/staffs of Senators and Reps listen to, take seriously, etc., messages from people NOT their constituents? If I live in CA, is it worth contacting anyone besides Boxer? eg, Cantwell, who I assumed would be a slam dunk in favor of NN? Thanks.
I HATE the spin job McMurry’s scurrilous “handsoff.org” is doing -
e.g., (paraphrasing) ‘who do you want controlling the internet? Entreprenurs, or THE GOVERNMENT???’
Sux.
BTW, good smackdown here: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/themix/37781/#more
Didn’t get much from his drone, but Shooter sure seems to have cottonmouth today — two big slugs of water in as many minutes.
MrWonderful 91 -
No. I seriously doubt it.
Barry @ 75,
Regarding the ad that says “What is the future of the Internet? Want a Smart Network or Dumb Pipe?”
This is the way the “free market” works. I’ve been clicking on the ad all morning. You can also click on it at Digby’s Hullabaloo and Jesus’ General. I can’t seem to help myself. Just keep clicking away. Beginning to get Carpel Tunnel.
I believe that the way this works is every time I click on the ad the telecos pay my favorite blogs a chunk of change. I even listen to what they are saying (in the ad) from time to time because so far opposing points of view haven’t been harmful to my ability to support a position based on the merits of the argument.
On the negative side I have a suspicion that as a customer of my local teleco (ATT) I may be paying for these ads each time I send them a check for my telephone service.
:)
FYI– he never said he believes in the unitary executive. executive needs to be strong and cites war powers. they stop where the Constitution tells em to.
We have to have secrets… cites a couple of cases with no details where the media hurt national security… nothing specific just words.
yeah, lotus– he appeared a thirsty cur indeed.
Caption on CNN a few minutes ago…
CHENEY: I DON’T THINK ANYONE ANTICIPATED THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE IN IRAQ.
Oh REALLY? Speak for yourself, idiot. Grrr…
Lotus,
Shooter is probably baked out of his fat mind.
Looks like the markets don’t like what the Deadeye Dickster is saying.
Dow 10,934.98
Down 79.57
-GSD
FAX: 202-228-2382
Date: June 19, 2006
The Honorable Barbara Boxer
United States Senate
Washington, D.C. 20510
Dear Senator Boxer:
As your supportive constituent I hope that you will strongly support Net Neutrality by supporting the Snowe-Dorgan bill S-2917, the Internet Freedom Preservation Act. This bill is meant to preserve the internet status quo, which is what has allowed the internet to be an open extension of our democracy.
It is vitally important to protect free speech and equal access to the marketplace of goods and ideas. I believe that the internet should be considered a public utility, and the phone companies should not be allowed to introduce a pricing scheme that discriminates against users or re-direct them to sites they did not request. As a small business owner I feel particularly threatened by this possibility.
Thank you for your attention to this important matter.
Sincerely,
mr. punaise
Berkeley, CA etc.
Nifty, punaise!
Brownandserve @79 - thanks for the link. Short, sharp, shocked, as it were.
Mr. Wonderful - you don’t have to tell the staff person where you’re calling from, just act like a constituent. As for Maria, she’s doing a bang-up job of pissing off the base of the party and sending herself into retirement in November.
Hooray to BobbyG on getting his “Zero is also a number” letter published.
I personally think it might be a good idea to use the phrase “website impartiality” along with addition to “net neutrality” when we talk to others about this issue.
Mr. Wonderful - when it comes to committee votes, I would say that whether you are a constituent of a member is irrelevant, as they represent the entire legislative body. Once a matter is voted out of committee and onto the floor, that’s when homing in on your own legislators is most meaningful.
My daughter’s friend, who is interning this summer in Hillary