I love the Princess Bride. It’s one of my favorites.

Oh and FITZ!

t i g r e - d ‘ e a u ! ! !

My god, George Allen is an idiot.

Dick said,”look over there. A flock of quail…and a lawyer!”

Princess Bride is a family favorite. Too funny.

BTW

Some nasty folks over in freepervile are saying the tall man in the rumpled suit should be disbarred.

I am NOT cool with that.

How appropriate, two tabs open and Watertiger on both! Dependable Renegade on the left and FDL on the right.

Cheney makes me throe up

Bustednuckles,

Eeep! I gotta go hunt for some more pix.

lhp - huh? who?

Great post…

I check out your site daily and snarf pics all the time to photoshop. So Thanks.

I believe The Snear is incapable of any type of truth/ honesty. But I am rolling with laughter at your options for that old evil fart….

You rock!

The line being spoken in the photo above: “Never get involved in a land war in Asia . . .”

I said it before, lhp: you’ve got really good taste.

punaise:

lhp - looseheadprop

I trust Dick Cheney as far as I can throe him …

Peterr, my “huh” was regarding the tall man in the rumpled suit

I’m throe-ly disgusted

3rd pic down. looks like
Stupie Mc Fuckhead just shit all over himself!

http://derenegade.blogspot.com/

Define “throes”? Define Cheney.

punaise @16, I thought you knew who lhp was, but I was throe-n by your “huh”

and re # 9, I hope it’s not catching

Punaise

Jane once called Fitz the tall man in the rumpled suit. The term got around and stuck with just about every lawyer I know. (back to why I think there are so many NYC federal practitioners lurking here)

So, I just assumed all fire pups would know it.

Someone needs to alter Noron O’Donnell’s dosage. Too perky by a power of ten.

inconceivable !!!

Watertiger Rocks

-Sec. of Defense Dick Cheney, April 1991
“Once you’ve got Baghdad, it’s not clear what you do with it. It’s not clear what kind of government you would put in place of the one that’s currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime or a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists? How much credibility is that government going to have if it’s set up by the United States military when it’s there? How long does the United States military have to stay to protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens to it once we leave?

Props to needlenose, I pulled this off their site a while ago.

OT per cbl, to Congress and the Traditional Media:
It’s an “OCCUPATION,” not a “war.”

looseheadprop @ 4:36 pm (#1) - Can’t you just hear Cheney saying “inconceivable!” when he thinks about Al Qaeda in Iraq?

I tell you what, this little patriot is madder than a wet settin’ hen

I want a locked room and Mr. “we’re an Empire now” and we’ll throe-down

Cujo at 24

Fantstically funny mental image. But you have to imagine his face and the original actor’s voice. Priceless.

Water tiger. Great choice

Jahn Casper

If it’s an occupation not a war, does that mean shrubya has to give back all those war powers he’s been abusing?

Bush: Cheney is not behind the leaks from Whittington’s head. The focus on Whittington’s head ignores positive news like Whittington’s weight loss. Once again, the libral media is not reporting on parts of Whittington that didn’t get shot.

from politicalhumor.about.com

EPU’d Last Throes of Democracy, ref. Germany, Wikipedia.

I am getting a bee in my bonnet about legislation dealing with the abolition permanent temporary bypassing of Congress in a “terrorist” emergency.

There WAS relevant legislation passed, that made page A927 of the Post, but hasn’t been discussed very much. I remember thinking, well, I suppose they have to have a plan in place. Walking that back along my naive-line that puts it maybe end 2002/early 2003?

We have a parallel government set up in case of “terrorist” attack. The line of succession for president was recently changed to promote Department of Homeland InSecurity much higher on the list.

Am hoping fellow commenters can provide information about this New plan for a New government in the New all terrorist all the time future.

The Long War…that’s THEIR term. I don’t have to make this s*** up. Orwell explains the eternal war/lack of civil liberties thingie much better than I could.

And btw, this is why it matters whether you do or don’t think rogue elements of our own government are capable of creating a terrorist incident. Anthrax and beyond.

watertiger @ 4:48 pm (#21) - Someone needs to alter Noron O’Donnell’s dosage. Too perky by a power of ten.

I think she needs to get her tryptophan dosage increased. Perkiness is the least of her problems.

looseheadprop 6 - it figures. But is it remotely plausible that someone would actually try?

Norah O’Donnell: MSNBC’s White Ho Reporter. From fishbowl DC.

LHP #27:

Then he needs occupation powers. Maybe we can fast-forward to the time when he gets a new box of crayons for the coloring books going into his presidential library. That’d keep him safely occupied, unless he eats the crayons.

LHP WHAT is their theory?! Your comment is making me want to go to lawyer war — I searched Free Republic (WHY did you send me there?) and couldn’t find anything. Please be less cryptic. That kind of thing is not at all funny.

Yes, but occupation powers of which country?

To add to Spice Trader @ 22’s comment….

“It’s inconceivable that Buttercup would choose Fitz over me!!!!.”

.

Jim Ward calls her Whora.

egregious

Am I understanding you correctly? (I have been working against a deadline the last few days my laptop is having a hard drive trasplant, so I have read zero news for several days)

Are you saying there is legislation out there to by-pass Congress???

For any reason?

I know they altered the line of sucession to bump Chertoff up a bunch of notches (never let me get drunk and start telling Mike Chertoff when he was an AUSA in NY stories–did you know he was also USA in Newark? Yeah, Newark a city that just got a big increase in Homeland Security funds while DC and NYC got shafted. Coincidence?)

But where are you getting this “bypass Congress” thing from? What did I miss whilst slaving away over my writer’s blocked brief?

Immanentize

Will be back. Someone sent me a link. I clicked on it and read a thread full of bile including some jerk who wants Pat disbarred.

Didn’t offer anything I would call a theory. I will try to retrieve the link.

Back in a sec

Imm

http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....1402/posts

Sorry to up their clicks.

I thought they already by passed Congress. Many times.And I do remember they did change the line of succession for the presidency. IIRC, they moved a military position higher up the Chain.

immanentize - Don’t go there! (freeperville) It’ll just make your brain hurt.

OT - I know everyone’s been waiting all weekend for the latest in the truthout saga, so here ya go:p

looseheadprop 21

Jane once called Fitz the tall man in the rumpled suit.

got it. now where’s that yellow hat?

OT…T/O has their latest explanation for Jason Leopold’s reporting up….in case anyone is interested.

http://forum.truthout.org/blog.....185947/499

“You’ve heard of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld?”

“Yes”

“Morons”

I don’t think Rob Reiner or William Goldman will mind my paraphrase of the “Aristotle, Plato, Socrates” line. When Wallace Shawn says “Morons,” I laugh myself silly. First time, 20th time, 50th time, doesn’t matter. I’m gone.

Leslie in Ca

Would someone try it?

No I think there are a variety of trial ballons going up (there was an article someone sent me about–was it diGenova?, saying that Libby should be pardoned. Maybe in Newsday?)

I think there is a little movement afoot to try to tarnish him and make it easier to either pardon Libby or Saturday Night Massacre, or some other evil thing along those lines.

Every so often there is a little flurry of this crap, as if they keep testing to see if the mood of the country has shifted and if it gets legs, they will move to nueter him.

I still haven’t heard or red anything (though admittedly I have been out of the news loop for a few days) that tells me that PatFitz has declared his investigation of Rove or anyone else closed.

Did I miss that?

Anyone know if the transcript from the last Walton hearing is out yet?

Cheney was merely mistranscribed. What he said was that the insurgency was in its last Thoreaus, ie, that it was running short on pacifists.

This was totally consistent with ensuing events. Stop picking on the guy.

The whole thing’s so depressing that I’ve gone to daily catblogging. Thank God for kitties. Though, come to think of it, my most recent post was to a site that features cats who look like Hitler.

I still want to give Cheney a thoreau thrashing for what he’s done to Iraq !

JWR @ 5:10 pm (#42) - Have I ever mentioned my aversion to government secrecy? Truthout could be 100% right, or they could be completely off their meds and out of their straightjackets. We really can’t tell at this point. That’s just one of the reasons I hate government secrecy. If you can take them at their word, they appear to have done what they’re supposed to.

Hopefully, the matter will become clear, but I am starting to wonder …

Oh, and just for the record, I do understand why Fitzgerald’s people are keeping this hush-hush, or at least some of the possible ones. Government secrecy inevitably engenders this sort of thing. It should be done as little as possible, or less.

LeisureGuy: a site with Puss in Boots?

I’d just like to see HIS last throes,and soon.

*ilson46201

I still want to give Cheney a thoreau thrashing for what he’s done to Iraq !

he certainly couldn’t get a “well done” pawned.

We are no match for your intellect when snark is on the line. You’re not Sicilian, are you?

LeisureGuy,

I hear you. I have to post something fluffy each day, otherwise I’d go mad.

Well, madder.

lhp, I remember reading about having legislation passed re a newly created government in place of Congress in the event of a “terrorist emergency”, in the Washington Post, and thinking WOW that’s extreme but I guess they need to have a plan in place.

Hope someone here can help dig up the details. And Hope to God we never implement this plan.

My brain hurts!!

Just BS, nothing to fret about. The operative theory about Fitz, as we all knew, was that with the total exhoneration of Rove, there is sufficient proof that Fitz is an evil, terrible (expletive expletive) Clinton loving, gay man who must be disbarred.

I think they are either in a land war in Asia or are going up against a Scicillian when death is on the line (Is Fitz’s Mom Scicillian?)

Imm,
Fitz’s folks are both gone. And Fitzgerald is totally Irish.

punaise: your puns are sometimes transcendental to the level of chit-chat and political bandinage of so many comments here !

Haven’t read comments or link yet, but here’s Truthout’s latest on 06 cr 128.

http://forum.truthout.org/blog.....185947/499

Sicillian, Irish … I don’t care to mess with either when they are determined (particularly the women of those heritages….)

Sorry if I’m hideously repeating what’s already been discussed in a previous room, but anyone have a reaction to this weird Truthout piece on the whole Rove fiasco?

http://forum.truthout.org/blog.....185947/499

Al Gore coming up on KO now.

I find it inconceivable that anyone could still read “truthout”, much less take them seriously …

Does anybody know the set up at Truthout?

When he says “senior editors” plural, does that also imply junior editors? How big is the staff at TO?

Do they run like a newspaper?

Cause I did hear some rumors from Fed law enforcement buddies, which I have never seen/heard anywhere else. And never repeated.

I believed those rumors because I knew the exact chain of people right up to the “witness” tot he event s and everyoone in the chain and knew who was prone to exaggeration, who had an ax to grind, etc. and could supply my own grains of salt as needed.

I believe that it would be impossible for Team Fitz to have done what Leapold reported w/o some other (non Team Fitz) agents, and possibly gov’t lawyers, finding out about it b/c of staffing issues.

The thing about the TO story is, I can think of several scenarios whereby that story COULD be true, without having to stretch.

It is harder to think how such a hoax could have been purpetrated in such a way that TO could not figure it out after the fact and get their revenge for being made a laughingstock.

political bandinage

I have a scooby doo bandinage on my finger right now — but I don’t think it’s political.

Here is something for a GREAT LAUGH…Lady McCheney giving props for that degenerate Scooter…
LMFAO!

——————————————–
Former Counselor To The Vice President, Mary Matalin: “I defy you or anybody to find anybody in this town who would say that Scooter is anything but impeccably honest and a dedicated public servant who doesn’t need to be in government, yet he’s dedicated many years of his life, despite having a prosperous law practice, to public service, in bio-defense, Homeland Security, State Department, Defense Department, the Vice President… [H]e’s scrupulously honest and meticulous.” (Fox News’ “Hannity and Colmes,” 10/28/05)

I read Cheney’s remarks and I throed up…all over the Last Throes Bistro in sunny, downtown Baghdad. What a mess!!!

Maybe Dick “Last Throes” Cheney will get a mop and bucket, go over to Iraq and start cleaning up all the throeing up that he caused through his blindingly ignorant stupidity.

One can only hope that Dick Cheney finds himself pursued by a young man who keeps repeating the phrase “You killed my father! Prepare to die!”

Time for me to go mow the lawn.

Leisureguy: You have made my day better.

The Hitler Cats’ collective slogan (God forgive me): “Our bite macht frei.”

imman re determined folk don’t omit the Scottish lassies :)

ya definitely don’t want to cross us.

Immamentize,
Oh yeah, I agree.I would think that Grudge was the very first word ever uttered by prehistoric Irishmen.(of course he’s never had the last word since.) Lol.

meta @ 5:28 pm (#62) - Yes, see my #50 and scroll down from there.

Does Cheney have six fingers on his left hand?

and from the public record the Rove case for obstruction looked so plain vanilla. So straightfoward. Possibly less greymail than the Libby case.

If Luskin is right, it does not make sense.

If Luskin is right, why no confirmation from Pat?

Egregious, I recall reading it was sometime in 2001, maybe May or June. I may have seen it in Michael Ruppert’s Crossing the Rubicon. Additional powers were given, omg, to the VP.

Princess Bride has something for everyone.

For dispirited Dems:
Buttercup: We’ll never survive.
Westley: Nonsense. You’re only saying that because no one ever has.
********

For Addington & Yoo:
Prince Humperdinck: First things first, to the death.
Westley: No. To the pain.
*********

For the Dread Pirate Scooter:
Libby: No one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Irving.
***********

For Bush’s Brain:
Karl: Is very strange. I have been in the revenge business so long, now that it’s over, I don’t know what to do with the rest of my life.
Libby: Have you ever considered piracy? You’d make a wonderful Dread Pirate Scooter.
*******

2001 before Sept? Not so sure about that. My reaction to reading the Post article was, it was really out there, but I guess they needed to do it because of the terrorist attack.

Ols Sow
I know the VP got powers to classify equal to the president’s via a presidential directive

lhp

I really do not see how it can be both true that the GJ returned an indictment AND true, as Luskin said, that Fitz promised not to charge. Once the GJ returns the indictment — you are charged.

I can’t remember the exact language, but Luskin definately said Fitz said he would not now be “charged.”

The only thing I can imagine is that that Fitz promised not to FILE charges at this time. Luskin’ statements in such a senario would REALLY piss off the grand jurors and I am sure Fitz would be forced to go, hat in hand, to explain why he did not file the charges.

It is possible, but not too practical. But this is the Plame investigation….

Mary

That was excellent! Gave me the giggles

egregious — I am getting the full picture — a Scott with red hair.

Beware!!

looseheadprop @ 5:32 pm (#75) - The only thing I can think of is that he’s after someone else, and Rove’s a witness. And, no, I haven’t the faintest idea who that might be, except a list of the obvious suspects.

But from what you prosecutor types have said, that doesn’t explain the “Secret vs. Secret” nature of the case number Truthout’s referring to.

Mary @ 5:33 pm (#77) Too funny, especially the Dread Pirate Scooter.

I agree with Cujo — most sealed indictments I have had to deal with are titled: United States v Secret (Not Secret v. Secret)

Cujo: there are only 2 (3 if you include Andy Card) above Rove and Libby…

Cujo, a million thanks. Trying to read too many threads at once. Yikes.

I think it was Kristol this weekend that floated the trial balloon of issuing Libby’s pardon. What I found interesting was his feigned indignance. Sounded Rovian. He must be doing some post mortem work for Libby. The whole black is white PR campaign is underway.

I don’t watch that shit on tv, so it must be on C&L somewhere…

Set your bullshit detectors on high and lets counter the offensive on every front early and hard.

lhp, I’m inclined to agree with you and generally not inclined to don tinfoil. There must be something going on under the surface.
What the hell is that thing called? Occam’s razor?

*ilson,

I will note that Andy Card — once touted as the Republican saviour for the gubernatorial wreck in Massachusetts named Kerry Healey (ironic first name, no?) — has been completely absent. Like disappeared.

Ahhh Suzanne–

My name is……

lhp 46,

I posted a link to the Newsday story about a Libby pardon in one of the threads here - maybe you saw it there?

As for the investigation, no, I haven’t seen or heard any news that PJF has declared it over.

When you say in your #65 that you can see how the truthout story could be true, do you mean the latest one linked in this thread? In other words, does truthout’s theory of what happened (sealed indictment = unprecedented cooperation from Rove re: Cheney) have any plausibility for you?

*ilson46201 @ 5:41 pm (#86) - Someone suggested Abu, but I don’t think Rove ever reported to the WHC. Of course, even Abu would be a prize catch, him being a cabinet secretary and all. Even Addington might be interesting, especially if he can implicate Cheney.

Anyway, two was the same number I came up with the other day, but now that I think of it there might be four. Too bad two of them would have to be impeached, though.

the “pardon for Libby” story is definitely a trial balloon floated out there to see if folk would holler about it …

OK, there was some mention of Card, who it appears was at the President’s speech today at the Merchant Marine Academy, by Tony Snow:

Q So was Andy Card decisive in getting the President to come to his alma mater or would-be alma mater?

MR. SNOW: I don’t know, but I think Andy is awfully happy to be going back and this time he’s not going to be hung up on a flagpole. (Laughter.)

Q Flagpole? We don’t know that story.

MR. SNOW: I’ve just tipped part of the speech for you. (Laughter.)

Q There won’t be police waiting for him?

MR. SNOW: I don’t think so. (Laughter.) Anything else, guys? Okay, thanks.

Ha ha very funny frat shit

Jeralyn at Talkleft is uncertain about the Truthout statement http://talkleft.com/new_archives/015121.html

watertiger — fabulous! Princess Bride is one of my all time favorites and this scene with Wallace Shawn is worth the price of admission all by itself. Mwahahahaha! Thanks!

Abu of course gave the WH a 24 hour heads up to shred and delete. Not a bad target at all for Fitz if other emails exist that suggest it was more than a time delay.

Could that explain the “Secret v. Secret?”

LHP? Mary?

Arianna’s new post about Snowjob is hysterical!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....23360.html

Donning the tin foil hat of wizardry for Imm:::

How about this?

PJF either indicts with a sealed indictment, or shows up at Luskin’s office with what’s called a criminal information (like an indictment, but no GJ, it is used when pleading guilty. The defendant waives his right to indictment by a jury of his peers, admits there is probabale causue to indict, and saves the GJ and everyone else the trouble of presenting the case). What ever deal PJF hopes to cut falls through.

PJF utters the “24 business hours” (WTF?) line and leaves.

Next AM, Bush issues a pardon which he has “classified”, or possibly had “ealed” by some judge. PJF institutes litigation to either unseal everything both documents on the grounds that the American people have a right to know, or even to attack the pardon itselve for being used in bad faith, impermissable purpose, etc.

Back when Bush Sr. issued thr propsective pardons there was a lot of lunch hour debate amoung gov’t lawyers about whether that was legal and many were shocked that Larry Walsh did not even TRY to litigate the issue.

One lunch hour I heard a very impassioned young lawyer lay out a set of point headings for what sounded like a plausable brief. PJF knows that formerly young lawyer.

——————-
Next not much of a strecth theory:

Bush or cheny or god know who issues some sort of executive order forbidding PJF from doing some act necesssary to indict or bring to trial, Rove. Oh, and classifies it.

Once again, “sealed v sealed” could be litigation to attacck either the secrecy or the action.
———–

Next not a stretch theory:
There is some piece of classifed parer that PJF needs in order to meet either his burden of proof at trial or his discovery obligations if he indicts Rove.

He tried to get it declassified, but Bushco stymied him. He knows that his case will be dismissed without the greymail document.
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In all three cases there may have been an abuse of the classification power (TALK TO MARY-she is the resident expert on that)

In all three cases, if there is secret litigation going on to try to undo whatever nepharious thing they did, it could explain why the case is “sealed v sealed” instead of the usual “us v. sealed”

In all three cases Fitz could very easily have written a letter to Luskin that assured Luskin that if he could not undo whatever, that he did not anticapte seeking charges other than the onces that have been torpedoed.

In all three instances, Fitz would not yet be willing to conced or confirm that the investigation is over, cause until you have lost your final appeal, technically it ain’t over yet. Even if it is a hail mary appeal.

who said puss & boots ?

http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute.....hotos.html

punaise,
look familiar ?

http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute.....one_h.html

Keith Olbermann just named Cal Thomas the worst person in the world for his trailer park pie remark.

cbl 100 (b)- heh. our new kitten hasn’t tried that one yet….

actually immanentize, it was only about 12 hours. as I recall, he called the WH around 9pm — Andy allegedly asked if he could put off til morning (start of business) to promulgate the “dont delete nothing” memo …

*ilson #95….when Jeralyn STOPS applauding lawyers who get off obvious criminals, I will start to take HER seriously.

Re: TruthOut’s latest self apologia: Is it possible that Rove engineered the same kind of elaborate doublecross as he is alleged to have done to J.D. Hatfield, suicider author of “Fortunate Son?” Hatfield claims that Rover leaked information to him about a 1972 arrest of GWB for coke possession, then proceded to eviscerate the credibility of the dubious Hatfield, thus neutralizing the damaging information no matter how it might ever re-emerge.

http://www.bushwatch.com/hatfield.htm

Also, remember Rove bugging his own office, which the FBI investigated his client’s gubernatorial opponent for.

It would forllow a pattern of classic Rove dirty-tricksterism.

http://www.bushwatch.com/hatfield.htm

Ahhhh. An article about Deferment Dick. Deferment Dick, the COWARD who hid behind his wife’s skirts when his country called upon him.

Reminds me of someone else….Karl!!!! Karl The Coward. Draft Dodging Karl The Coward Rove! How are you two cowards doing today??

heh,heh,heh
Ghostman

lhp and all, thank you for your input. This is so incredibly confounding, it’s hard to imagine what could have possibly happened, so your scenarios are food for thought.

Ralphbon at #70: You made me laugh iced tea out my nose.

More revised dialogue . . .

[Cheney, center stage, turns to see a door open, and a man in a rumpled suit enters, brandishing a sheaf of papers]

“Hello! My name is Patrick J. Fitzgerald. You are the man who killed my country. Prepare to die . . .”

LHP You know I am not buying the secret pardon thing so we will have to bet a beer and see how it all turns out. If there were a “secret” pardon, not just a prosep[ective pardon like that by Bush I, I suspect the litigation continues. No court would decide such an issue immediately.

So, that leaves the information idea. But US a
Atorneys can only issue an information for non-felonies, so I would suspect that the deal was done before an information was presented….

I admit my serious but obviously limited experience just cannot round the square here.

Peterr,
We may have to get that on a tee shirt.

I think Maty has just sucessfully renamed Irving. I totally groove on “dread pirate scooter”

Since many people including myself have often on FDL applauded Johnathan Turley for his insight and analysis and honesty…TAKE A GANDER…Let me know what you all think?
——————————————-

Legal scholar Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law professor who has closely followed the case, said he was surprised by the move.

“The decision not to indict Rove only reflects the view that Scooter Libby is the designated defendant in this scandal,” Turley said.

And Turley, who has represented clients in cases prosecuted by Fitzgerald’s office in Chicago, said, “This is not an investigation that seems in character for Fitzgerald.”

“His office tends to indict everyone and let God sort them out,” Turley said. “And Rove was given so many opportunities to correct his testimony. It seemed like there was a virtual turnstile on the grand jury door. I’ve never seen Fitzgerald give a witness so much time to work his way out of a criminal charge.”

Imm

You can use a criminal information for a felony if the defendant waives his right to indictment. The same way a defendant can waive their right to a petit jury trial and have a bench trial.

The requirement for a GJ indcitment is a RIGHT posessed by the accused which the accused can knowingly choose to waive

neurophius @ 5:54 pm (#101) - If he’d just said “conservative” instead of “trailer trash” we’d be saying he’d stated the obvious. You have to wonder what (substance) was on Ole’ Cal’s mind.

Franco,

“Get[ting] off obvious criminals” is called the constitution of the United States. Every time an accused is acquitted by a jury, absent jury tampering, it is a great victory for a system that relies on citizens to decide issues complex and mundane.

Embrace it in all its imperfect wonder.

I’m glad lhp. YOu sounded like you needed a laugh.

Don’t worry about the Freepers. Weren’t they saying the same thing when he did indict?

I don’t really understand the GJ process and have never had to work with it, but you just can not convince me that a GJ indicted, then hears that their prosecutor says he is not going to press charges - and no one says anything. It’s one thing if they are told an indictment is under seal, but to hear public statements that their Prosecutor has said he isn’t charging and none of them say anything?

I don’t buy that. I buy something sealed, with the GJ in on it, but not that Luskin would be so stupid as to issue lies or think he won’t be called on it.

Something is going on, though, and it is very weird that no MSM is pushing LUskin for production of the letter (btw - is that something that could be obtained by a FOIA request? It’s not confidential between counsel, but is it govt docs if it is from a Spec. Pros investigation? I don’t know anything about FOIAs either).

Between not pushing the letter, and Luskin himself not asking for the Prosecutor’s office to publically verify his statement (and didn’t journalists used to require two sources for info like that?), you have to wonder. Luskin & Corallo (Ashcroft’s old spokesman)are also very adamant that there has been no plea.

Didn’t the President say that the investigation is over?

I dunno. There was some serious timing going on with the statement coming right after the Monday discovery hearing, and no one on Libby’s teams seeming to press (as they have in the past) for when the Rove issues on discovery would be addressed at that hearing.

If Rove is just dropping out of the picture and the narrative is nearing “and they pardoned happily ever after” then it would only make sense for the Prosecutor to make a public statement. ?

I think it’s all very cloak and daggerish sounding, but I don’t hold out a lot of hope that we’ll find anything much out. It will be frustrating if there is never a public statement by the Prosecutor’s office as to the status of the investigation or Rove, but frustrating is just another word for the Bushyears.

So right now you have the Prosecution saying they aren’t calling Rove, Libby saying they might, the Judge saying he thought something was about to happen vis a vis Rove and would rule after that to continue to preserve GJ secrecy for now, a GJ that hasn’t said a word about Rove walking (and I don’t care about secrecy - that wouldn’t happen if the Prosecutor failed to pursue an indictment they returned IMO), a part of the Prosecutor’s team wrapping the Safavian case, TO getting statements from “Kimberly Nerheim” ?? instead of Samborn, a sealed v. sealed weird case floating around, some kind of weird posturing going on between Gonzales and Cheney’s office and COngress re: Jefferson (looks like Judge Hogan will rule on that pretty quick - but I’m mostly interested in what he thinks about the turnover of the info to the Sol. Gen ??), rulings in Walton’s court that make it clear that, despite the broad language in the grant to the Spec. Prosecutor, he is subject to supervision and even changes in his grants of authority through the Margolis - McNulty chain, etc. etc.

It’s like Mardi Gras - lots of color and even some random titillation - but trying to make sense of it all will give you a headache.

But the Dread Pirate Roberts (incarnation #4, IIRC) is Cary Elwes! Dread Pirate Scooter? I don’t think so.

He’s more like Prince Humperdink’s henchman, that Our Heroes confront at the locked door to the castle. After all the guards run away, he protests that he doesn’t have the key to the door. Disbelieving, Montoya tells Fezzik to rip his head off, at which point - surprise, surprise - he changes his tune: “Oh, you mean this key. . .”

I am getting the full picture - a Scott with red hair.

Beware!!

Don’t worry, immanentize, anyone who can stare down the Grand Wizard and win is ok in my book.

Yeah, “Dread Pirate Scooter” is hilarious - I’m still laughing. And I like Peterr’s revision too. (Though as Pach would no doubt remind us, it should not only be PJF in that scene [or not him at all], but all of us, advancing en masse on Cheney et al.)

Scooter’s the Albino.

Tom DeFrank and Tony Blankley were on Hardball debating whether this unhooking of Rove means he’s back in the driver’s seat for the fall elections.

The general consensus, with Norah giggling and sighing like a smitten teen, was “yes, here comes da Sludge.”

Cheney lied thru his snarl yet again…

Thanks, watertiger, for the Princess Bride pic– a most fantabulous movie, indeed!

And Turley, who has represented clients in cases prosecuted by Fitzgerald’s office in Chicago, said, “This is not an investigation that seems in character for Fitzgerald.”

I have watched this guy’s career for the better part of 20 years. PatFitz is a lawyer’s lawyer.

Turley is right. This does not look like a typical PatFitz case. I disagree that Fitz indicts everyone in sight, that’s just Turly speaking defense lawyereese.

But Pat never caves in when he is right, he cannot be intimidated or he would have been by some of the backstory shit that has already gone down, and he does not miss the target.

The flipping theory works and the WH/Cheney/somebody