
So Chuck Schumer, head of the Democratic Incumbent Senatorial Campaign Committee sees no problem in supporting a Holy Joe "Cut-and-Run 2006" independent candidacy over dedicated Democrat Ned Lamont. According to Hotline:
At a briefing for the Washington, D.C. political press corps today, DSCC chair Chuck Schumer was in a mood to marvel and brag. Last night, with the victory of Jim Webb, Democrats finally found their eighth competitive Senate contest. (Chuck always wanted eight; Dems need to win at least six and keep hold of the roughly four Dem-held seats that are vulnerable.)
Pointing to the victories of Webb, a Reagan Democrat with a flair for non-traditional Democratic positions, and Jon Tester, who spent half as much as his primary challenger in Montana, Schumer said that party activists had turned to pragmatism and were less inclined to hold candidates to litmus tests.
Schumer said the Dem primary voters want winners and are focused one electability. He couldn't resist adding even "in 2008," which pricked the ears of reporters who thought he was sending a message about the relative electability of Hillary Clinton. (He wasn't, apparently.)
Schumer said that the DSCC "fully supports" Sen. Joe Lieberman in his primary bid, and he refused to rule out continuing that support if Lieberman were to run as an independent.
There were degrees of independence, Schumer said. "You can run as an independent, you can run as an independent Democrat who pledges to vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader."
Now we'll skip over the irony of Chuck Schumer boasting about the Tester win. (I myself am rather happy that the Mavericks are doing well against the Heat , but I'm also aware that I had about as much to do with that as Schumer had to do with Tester's victory.) No, we'll go straight to the main course -- this is all about incumbency protection. The preservation of entrenched power and maintaining the status quo. The big, fat bird that most Democrats flipped the netroots during the Alito confirmation? Multiply it times ten, they're flipping it to every registered Democrat in the nation now. It's All About Them.
If you find this to be Not Okay, you can do several things:
- Go to Ned Lamont's site and sign a petition to call for Joe to commit to support the Democratic candidate in November. Nobody else is obviously going to do it.
- Call your Democratic Senator and tell them that as a Democratic constituent you expect them to support the, you know, Democrat. (It may seem a bit remedial but many seem to be having trouble grasping this.)
- Go to the
DSCCISCC blog (called, ironically "From the Roots" -- oh lordy) and let them know how you feel (short, painless registration process is worth the trouble) - Volunteer to phone bank for Ned Lamont if you live in Connecticut by contacting one of the district offices. As Colin McEnroe noted this morning, this could be make-or-break for the campaign as we get down to the wire.
If you do stop by the DSCC and send Chuck some love, you might want to point him to the DSCC mission statement from their own web site, which says:
The sole mission of the DSCC is to elect more Democrats to the Senate.
This is on their -- wait for it -- fundraising page (see screen cap above). Don't they think it's a wee bit dishonest to tell people they are raising money expressly for this purpose, and then use it to DEFEAT a Democrat? I think they've got some truth in advertising issues here, myself.
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A zero comment? Rootz! Fitz! We the People!
fair and open primaries, i say. let the people have their say. is that so hard, washingcrats?
Colbert!
Chuck Schumer, while not a very nice person, isn’t usually this stupid. Use the DSCC web page to remind the Senators that what goes around, comes around. If Lamont wins the primary and Lieberman runs as an independent, those Dem Senators who support Joe will face blogosphere backed independents in THEIR next general election campaign.
That’ll shut ‘em up fast.
Y’all can slap me for being OT here, but I read this in the T-P today, and it was priceless, FDL’ers will apreciate James Gill’s wonderful gift of industrial-strength snark. I hope the link works ok: www.nola.com/news/t-p/gill/ind.....321610.xml if not, go to NOLA decimal Com and pull James Gill out of their pages. You’ll be glad you did, I promise. It’s about the 3 suicides at Guano.
regarding the think progress report;
we need to formulate the proper responses and get these to the democrats so they are properly prepared
1)for instance when a pundit mentions 9/11 the democrat needs to say;
this president cut and ran from the agencies that delivered the attack on September 11th, they failed this country and they initiated an unprovoked attack on a country all of their military strategists advised against
this administration needs to pay attention to the generals and strategists and stop letting draft dodgers overrule the finest military advise on the planet
2)when the pundit tries to call democrats sheepish the democrat needs to respond;
anyone who supports the policies of cutting and running from the fight against terrorism, diverting the vital funds our boys and girls needed for success in Afghanistan so they could initiate an unprovoked attack on a country that posed no threat needs to just shut up because they look pretty darned foolish
etc
we need to write a formula for the democrats to draw off of…hopefully they will embellish they have, but they surely need direction in how to respond and take away the “tools” that don’t exist
This is nuts. Schumer has lost his mind if he thinks Dems will stand for him or the DSCC supporting anyone but the winner of the primary. Independent means independent of the party. DSCC money is ONLY for Democratic candidates.
Mighta been covered in the last thread, but if not:
New Digby post on Lieberman:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com.....7155195451
I got a contribution solicitation emailed from the DSCC and wrote back that they’d not get a cent from me until they pledged that they would support the winners of the Democratic primaries, and in particular the winner of the Connecticut Demo primary.
Ah, my first EPU. Wasn’t as great as I thought it would be.
–snip–
On Lieberman %u2014 Jane, ask Colin to help you find a profile of Lieberman’s vote on Bork that was in Northeast Magazine (where Colin has his column). That’s all you need to know. It started as a “day in the life of a senator” blah, blah, blah, and turned into an amazing look inside a man who is desperate to be courted. He was never going to vote for Bork all along, but he played the rest of the Senate like a fiddle while each side treated him like royalty, courting him and his precious vote.
Then, when it was payoff time, he intentionally waited until the thing was decided to vote so he wouldn’t be seen as the key vote up or down. He was pushing himself as the one who could decide it during the courting, but then weaseled out of taking any kind of stand. Sound like the cloture vote, anyone??
OT, but too pitiful not to mention %u2014 last story on NBC Williams news tonight was a frisky W teasing the press corps this AM. Made fun of a guy “wearin’ shades” when there was no sun out this morning. Turns out the reporter from the LA Times (sorry, missed the name) is LEGALLY BLIND.
Just kill me now and get this over with.
So the DSCC has joined the Republican Party and decided that they no longer support Democracy in America.
And…just imagine Joe being the independent swing vote in a 51-49 Senate. The stroking he will get from both sides, nearly continuously will….well, I’ll leave it to Punaise to finish the visual…
could someone tell me what an epu is please
been around long enough to know, but I don’t
kirby 11 — thanks will do, sounds very telling.
The good news in all of this is that when Ned Lamont is in the Senate next year, it will be an indisputable victory for the netroots. And maybe some of those incumbent Dems will roll over for us as easily as they do for the Republicans when they realize that their jobs depend on it.
TheOtherWA >”…Schumer has lost his mind…Independent means independent of the party. DSCC money is ONLY for Democratic candidates.”
I really never thought he had much of one
Might there be a law suit to file if they try to spend funds collected for one purpose for someone/something not of the party ?
Something about collecting money under false pretenses maybe ?
Man this could make La Brea (tar pits) look like an ice rink
“There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.” - Niccol Machiavelli (The Prince, 1532)
OT - Congress voted themselves another pay raise. Guess they weren’t paying attention when the Pennsylvania state legislature voted themselves a pay raise in 2004 (later repealed) and 12 incumbents in Republican primaries were toppled this year.
OT: just arrived in my Inbox:
Truthout will issue a statement on the Rove story today at 5:00 p.m. Pacific. The post will appear on our blog at:
http://forum.truthout.org/blog
I just called Barbara Boxer’s office. They said they can’t discuss anything involving politics on the phone since it’s her official office. They referred me to barbaraboxer.com. That site has no email. WTF!? How amy I supposed to call and let her know I expect her to support Lamont (or at least not to throw any weight behind Lieberman) ?
me to me — EPUd is for our very own Evil Parallel Universe who always seemed to post great things just as a new thread started.
You know who would be great for your strategies? The D caucus that is named for being under a certain age — with Kendall Meek, Debbie Wasserman Schmidt, etc. — the ones who first jumped on our rubber stamp message.
There are just enough of them that haven’t sold out and can create an echo chamber if Pelosi will let them during the debate.
Just put up a comment on the most recent DSCC state roundup post. There’s a strong troll warning on their comment page, so it will be interesting to see if they do a Washington Post with it (I was polite, but very clear).
sorry.. I mean to say:
I just called Barbara Boxer’s office - 415-403-0100. They said they can’t discuss anything involving politics on the phone since it’s her official office. They referred me to barbaraboxer.com. That site has no phone number to call. WTF!? How amy I supposed to call and let her know I expect her to support Lamont (or at least not to throw any weight behind Lieberman) ?
This from Digby (#9) was priceless:
“Here’s the plan. First, the Democratic terrorists are going to kick Lieberman’s ass. After that, they are going to kick the Republican party’s ass. And finally they will kick bin Laden’s ass. We didn’t create this hard core political environment, the Republicans did, with the help of self-serving Dems like Lieberman. Now somebody has to clean up all these messes. The crazed Democratic terrorists who are willing to cast aside all morality by ruthlessly supporting a primary challenger (who is not a travelling Deadhead, but rather a middle of the road self made millionaire) seem to be the only ones who are willing to do it.”
me to me: the term supposedly means “Evil Parallel Universe” and means your comment at the end of a previous thread was never seen because a new thread was started while you were posting.
It has to be one of the most obscure net-isms ever coined.
Tim, 23
I’m guessing it’s because they don’t want your comments…or anyone eles’s that doesn’t protect the incumbent racket
OT.
Looks like the Countdown to the “takedown” of Olbermann has begun.
Eggboy Drudge is running this:
“NBC EXECUTIVES MEET OVER MORE OLBERMANN EMAILS SET FOR PUBLICATION, SAY SOURCES… DEVELOPING…”
-GSD
me to me @ 7,
Prof. George Lakoff on framing
ratbahstad, that was a non-statement statement, now wasn’t it? Looks like Jason won’t be revealing his souces. Sham-a-rama.
There were degrees of independence, Schumer said.
just like there are varying degrees of being pregnant or dead.
i’ve e-mailed chuck many times — he ignores me because he has a higher calling than representing his constitiuents — hillary feigns interest
the two party system is reaching the stage where it no longer gives americans much choice — the differences on domestic matters are grist for the incumbency mill because the two parties have the same foreign policy, excepting mavericks like russ feingold
within the two party system it’s impossible to get americans to face reality as america slides downhill — immediately after 9/11 bush was very popular, which only shows that americans are easy to fool, as they sit in their dens & watch other folks’ kids suffer through a misbegotten war that’s going awry
the american legal system isn’t equipped to handle the war crimes that team bush commits — the world’s only chance for justice is if international courts take action
I’m sure that some of the more committed political junkies here (and I mean that in the nicest possible way!) know the answer to this: When was the last time a Senator or Congressman was defeated in a primary election? I’ve never heard of it, it has to be almost unheard of.
“Ah, my first EPU. Wasn’t as great as I thought it would be.”
Hahaha, funny t-shirt slogan.
Re: Olbermann — his e-mails said Rita Cosby was dumb — hardly a firing offense, since she is on the way out anyway.
Back to CT: Dodd will be fascinating to watch. He has always been the good party man, gave Joey’s nominating speech, etc. BUT, he has 08 fever. This will be a fascinating calculation to watch — does he support Joey for old times’ sake to support the incumbent racket, or does he do a full-on for Ned wanting all of us to support his maverick run, as well???
I just watched Matthews interview the Webb guy (Saunders) and the Allen guy. It should be a lesson for all Dem. candidates going forward: keep the subject on Iraq. When they try to change the conversation to immigration, get it back to Iraq.
Hang this war around their necks and keep it there!
There absolutely CANNOT be a Dem nominee for 2008 who voted yes on the IWR.
RB #19:
Essentially, continued until next Monday. No outing of sources. Jason Leopold’s wonderful. Trust us.
the point is that here, at firedoglake, and other blogs, we are better informed, better prepared, more well versed then our political representatives
I people like jane and marcus and christy have the ear of our represntatives and they would sure be able to use the advise and the pros
with the rare exception of people like feingold, democrats do talk like losers
they need our help, especially when we get a heads up on what the repukelicans are going to try to get away with
Tim Wayne @ 4:56
I emailed info@pacforachange.com that if Boxer is supporting Lieberman if he runs as an Independent, then I want a refund of the money I donated to the PAC because I will not lend any support to an organization that opposes democracy in America.
OT: our pal Taylor Marsh gets a mention in Pater Daou’s The ‘Bush Recovery’ Narrative: How Dems Might Squander Their ‘06 Opportunity
(this one’s not behind the salon.com wall.)
Daou link
RE: Truthout. I honestly didn’t expect anything more, just thought I’d give a heads up. LAME!
Re: Olbermann. MSNBC will lose my viewership completely if they get rid of him. There is absolutely nothing else of value on that network, period.
What’s our old pal Howard Dean have to say about all this? Has he gone on the record over who the DNC will support after the primary in Connecticut?
I know, I know, I could go google around. I just wanted to comment and this is the first thing I thought of. :)
If I find the answer before anyone else does I’ll come back and post it!
perhaps my eyeore-ish comment deserves to remain in EPU status, but anyway, here tis:
On the one hand, I yearn to be optimistic and excited about this news regarding the polling numbers on Lamont. But in a Diebold world, I don’t know if elections will ever matter again in this country. I spoke to a colleague today in political science who said she’s ready to bet a month’s salary that, no matter what happens with roots campaigns, Republicans will remain in control after Nov elections because we no longer have real elections.
Depressing stuff, but I think it needs to be acknowledged.
Schumer “swiftboated” Paul Hackett when Brown changed his mind in Ohio. Schumer said Webb was a “fighter” and happy to have him. He beat the endorsed candidate. Tester is fine in Montana. He beat the endorsed candidate. But if Lamont wins in Ct. he will still back the loser of the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY as an Independent? Do Democratic contributers go along with that? Christ! I thought this administration had a lock on croynism! Lamont should tell Schumer to kiss his ass. I have. And include Rahm Emmanuel. For sure they won’t get ANY of my meager money.
RB #41:
There doesn’t seem to be much of value on any network, save the Comedy Channel. Also, KO’s been gaining ratings while O’Liely’s been dropping. KO’s show has a more desirable demographic, too - one which I’m sadly no longer in.
They’d be stupid to do anything foolish, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t. That network’s the spawn of Jack Welch and Bill Gates…yikes!
Schumer is obviously scared shitless that Lieberman will jump to indie- win- and caucus with the goopers. That could happen- in fact if Lamont wins the primary- or gets close enough to scare the bejesus out of Ol Joe- it becomes arguably the most likely outcome.
Schumer stepped on his dick bigtime with his comment. Better to be looking for another state to take Connecticut’s place.
There isn’t much out there. Arizona and Virginia are nominally in play- but they are LONG SHOTS at best.
In cruising around the electoral map- there’s one that does look interesting. Olympia Snow is not breaking 50% in the polls. Goopers, of course, see her as a RINO- it’s a blue state and dems may be in a mood to take it over. If I were Chuck- I’d spend some time talking to candidates in Maine.
Always good to have a back up plan. And for God’s sake- forget even THINKING about supporting an indie vs. an elected dem. Total stupidity.
I don’t know why Democrat Schumer would support Lieberman (over Democrat Lamont) as an independent should Lieberman decide his best chances of winning are as an independent. That’s not usually the way things get done. But it’s likely that “politics” (as in IOU’s, common agendas, written or unwritten chits, money, power, pressure, payback or perhaps even political blackmail) is the undergirding. A check into the comparable voting patterns, outside interests and influences, coincident lobbyist connections of Lieberman and Schumer, over the years, might shed a bit of sunshine on Shumer’s, no-matter-what, motives for supporting Lieberman.
GladlyTCEBear at 31, interesting, I get the opposite effect - Schumer’s operation feigning interest, Hilary’s could give 2 shits what I have to say. BTW, love your handle.
nellieh #44:
Your AIPAC at work. Just ask Juan Cole.
Tim Wayne 23
Thanks for posting Boxer’s phone number. I just called and spoke with an aide there (he sounded young). I started out by saying I had attended Boxer’s speech at Yearly Kos, I thought it was a great speech and I appreciated her support for bloggers. Then I said I thought she is making a big mistake for supporting Lieberman in the Connecticut primary when Lieberman is indicating he may bolt the Democratic Party. He told me he would pass the message on.
Oscarsmom 24
Ooh, that Dibgy, what a man! sigh.
Doesn’t a sweet rant like that just get the Democratic juices flowing!
Hey Chuck? Meet Wonkette. She has a particular fetish. You are about to become familiar with it. It will be inflicted by Democrats. Just thought you should know..
Well, if Lieberman runs as an (I) he wins. It won’t even be close.
If you’re expecting to near majority status, and with a miracle might get a tie 49 (D), 49 (R), with Senator Joe Lieberman (I) and Senator Bernie Sanders (I), Lieberman’s vote could very well choose the Majority Leader (well, it would tie the vote and Cheney would decide), which is a fucking enormous difference in the balance of power.
A vote for a Republican Majority Leader probably won’t ruin Senator Joe Lieberman (I)’s chances of reelection in 2012, but might net him a cabinet post in the McCain administration.
[EPU’d] has to be one of the most obscure net-isms ever coined.
NOT according to our DC lawyer looseheadprop, who says she hears it from Fed judges and attorneys she’d least expect . . .
EMAIL DSCC, info@dscc.org, tell them they will not see another dime out of you and to take your name off their lists, until they say they will back the winner of the Primary in CT.
Tim Wane: Here is all the US Senators contact sites:
http://www.senate.gov/general/.....p;Sort=ASC
Howard Dean and the DNC cannot make any comments on Primary candidates.
kirby 13
just imagine Joe being the independent swing vote in a 51-49 Senate. The stroking he will get from both sides, nearly continuously will… well, I’ll leave it to Punaise to finish the visual
don’t think I’m up to that task - sounds like a mission for the esteemed darkblack…
BTW, saw this down in EPUpia:
Ron Thompson 176
Kirby at 165,
Lieberman wasnit in the Senate when Bork was nominated. The Bork nomination was in 1987. Lieberman was first elected to the Senate in 1988, and took office in 1989.
OT but just give me a minute and then we can get back to shining the light on Loserman.
Does anybody know a really good Web site on net neutrality? I am trying to explain it to my wife (who is very smart) but not doing a very good job. We are getting ready to contact our senators. I know I could Google it, but I also know the bad guys are putting out a lot of misinformation. Any help would be appreciated.
it’s no mystery why chuck would support joe — they belong to the mossad party
hillary belongs as well but russ feingold doesn’t — ideology matters more than ethnicity
It is about time for the DSCC to hit me up for money again. I will gladly tell them that I will wait and see if they truly back Democrats or if they are going to just play the “good old boys club” and back only their buddies/incumbents before they get another dime out of me.
Man, I enjoyed telling the DLC fundraiser who phoned me exactly why I was going to make my donations directly, through netroots, instead of continuing to enable their Dem consultants. Yes, Holy Joe’s name came up.
I only wish I had remembered to quote Harry Reid: “It’s important for people to understand that actions have consequences.”
al-Scooter, totally agree. My tv viewing is Comedy Central, random news (c-span, msnbc, cnn), and sports. All occasionally, and by that I mean maybe the tv gets turned on 3 times/week. Rarely, I’ll watch a good movie on IFC, AMC or TCM. That medium has mostly lost me.
Wish we could get the zombies away from Faux News.
OK, here’s a snippet from the James Gill column in the Times-Picayune that I linked to in #6 above. I’m serious, the whole thing is this good and better:
” Guantanamo Bay commander Rear Admiral Harry Harris also pooh-poohs any notion that the suicides were ‘an act of desperation.’ But he doesn’t call them a PR stunt. He sees them as ‘an act of asymmetric warfare against us.’
War doesn’t get any more asymmetric than this. We’re out to kill the enemy and the enemy is out to kill himself. “
Back to me now … can someone point me to a handy place to go to learn how to do block quotes without screwing up the comments?
Neuro 57: this was linked here over the weekend and is the most straightforward thing I’ve read on Net Neutrality. Emailed it all around.
“.The implications of permanently losing network neutrality could not be
more serious. The legislation, backed by companies such as AT&T, Verizon and
Comcast, would allow the firms to create different tiers of online service.
They would be able to sell access to the express lane to deep-pocketed
corporations and relegate everyone else to the digital equivalent of a
winding dirt road. Worse still, these gatekeepers would determine who gets
premium treatment and who doesn’t.
Their idea is to stand between the content provider and the consumer,
demanding a toll to guarantee quality delivery. It’s what Timothy Wu, an
Internet policy expert at Columbia University, calls “the Tony Soprano
business model”: By extorting protection money from every Web site - from
the smallest blogger to Google - network owners would earn huge profits.
Meanwhile, they could slow or even block the Web sites and services of their
competitors or those who refuse to pay up. They’d like Congress to “trust
them” to behave.
Without net neutrality, the Internet would start to look like cable TV. A
handful of massive companies would control access and distribution of
content, deciding what you get to see and how much it costs. Major
industries such as health care, finance, retailing and gambling would face
huge tariffs for fast, secure Internet use - all subject to discriminatory
and exclusive deal-making with telephone and cable giants.
We would lose the opportunity to vastly expand access and distribution of
independent news and community information through broadband television.
More than 60 percent of Web content is created by regular people, not
corporations. How will this innovation and production thrive if creators
must seek permission from a cartel of network owners?
The smell of windfall profits is in the air in Washington. The phone
companies are pulling out all the stops to legislate themselves monopoly
power. They’re spending tens of millions of dollars on inside-the-Beltway
print, radio and TV ads; high-priced lobbyists; coin-operated think tanks;
and fake grassroots operations with such Orwellian names as Hands Off the
Internet and NetCompetition.org.”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....chive/2006
/06/09/EDGDOILMAH1.DTL
Call your Senators today!
Can’t find the results of the Maine primary. It was too close to call yesterday. Two interesting candidates:
Jean Hay Bright- journalist and organic farmer
Eric Mehment- lawyer and political activist.
Both are VERY left from their campaign statements. Mehment looks buttoned down- Bright looks like- well- an organic farmer. Apparently their primary race went down to the short strokes.
Bright has written a couple of books- one an expose of sorts on Snow.
Anyone,
what is T Rex’s site called ?
I don’t know why Democrat Schumer would support an ‘independent’ Lieberman candidacy over Democrat Lamont. Perhaps a check of the voting patterns of Lieberman and Schumer over the years might shed a bit of sunshine on the motivations of the Schumer no-matter-what support of Lieberman. It might be safe to say that “politics” is the undergirding for the Schumer-Lieberman love feast, (”politics”: as in common agendas, money, power, payback, written and unwritten chits, coincident lobbyist connections, parallel outside interests and influences, pressure, and even political blackmail). There might be something sinister at play here in this Schumer-Lieberman bond that seems to transcend party loyalty and constituent faithfulness.
FDL needs to be discovered by some hip media planners (any among our lurkers?). Note the traffic levels, note the commitment and passion and average discretionary income and how little TV we watch because we’re…here.
Then drop some coin on our proprietresses and stand back as your client’s click-thru becomes a tidal wave. You’ll be glad you did!
My interview with the reporter from the Chicago Tribune was in the Sunday Edition from Yearlykos. It can be found here -
http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....nworld-hed
Another endangered Republican.
The latest Rasmussen Reports poll of the race for U.S. Senate in Rhode Island shows Sen Lincoln Chafee (R-RI) “still neck-and-neck with” Sheldon Whitehouse (D), besting him 44% to 42%.
-GSD
airportcat @ 62
Three links to html tutorials
Or quicker
without the spaces
GSD, shhhh! You might make Bill Voinovich cry again.
GSD–True- But Chaffee’s seat is already in the count of six. If Connecticut goes indie- then dems need ANOTHER seat BESIDES the BIG SIX.
I still can’t find anything on the final count for the Maine primary. Maybe they’re still counting?
Al Scoots,
I just was tooling around and saw a link where Rich Lowry outed the fact tht NRO and the National Review are both money losers….But still get lots of wingnut welfare from the power pimps in the Neo-Big Daddy Government movement.
-GSD
Here’s a good one, that’s on a pretty non-technical level:
http://www.slate.com/id/2140850/
In summary, I think if you want the Internet to end up being like TV, killing off net neutrality is a good way to do that. It will be cheaper, but it won’t be worth very much, either.
If you want a more technical explanation, I can provide one or link you to one, but I suspect you’re coming at it from a consumer’s point of view.
FWIW, I tried to register at the ISCC website and was e-mailed a username and password combo that does not work. Are they tracking where their traffic is coming from, and maybe they don’t want us there?
TRex:
http://incomprehensibledemoral.....gspot.com/
neurophius says: “Does anybody know a really good Web site on net neutrality?”
June 14th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
Please start with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Neutrality
Katymine, good job on the interview, excellent points. How much did you say total that that bit was exerpted from?
The linky works, but not the demo
Click the link
OT (but I have been all day, so far OT that I ain’t even been online, so?)
Spent much of the day in my opthalmologist’s and dentist’s waiting rooms with HWAPA prominently displayed in my lap. Sold 10-15 copies for Glenn to the eyes- and teeth-challenged of Volusia County, FL (and sundry receptionists and other support staff), I bet.
Just amazing to find this much immediate interest, exasperation, and anti-Bush concord among that disparity of people. Dem dere goopers (including hangers-on such as Lieberman) are SO in-for-it this fall.
Lak the man sed, It’s important for people to understand that actions have consequences.
GSD 69
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what’s that Chafeeng sensation around his neck?
Punaise @56
Thanks for the correction — of course, it was Thomas.
Bonzarella @43
In CT, we have those quaint machines in which you pull the lever and get a little metal X painted in red revealed for your selection. Hard to fix during the voting process — the tally numbers on the back would have to be reported incorrectly, and they are impounded.
Also, don’t forget that while we have a R governor, the legislature and all other statewide elected offices are Ds — and in the privacy of the booth, I wouldn’t be surprised if every single one of the high-profile Ds in this state vote Ned because everyone is so sick of Joe, his high maintenance and his complete lack of a sense of party unity.
But you know, if he goes along, then he won’t get all that face time on talking head shows!
neurophius @ 5:25 pm (#57) - My previous comment (at 5:40 pm #74) was in response to you. Oops.
AirportCat– more snark from Mike Farrell wrt the suiciders here; thanks for the link to the T-P!
>>>>>>>>
Of course, the doubters, the cringers, the left-wing, pinko, peacenik
dupes, they fall for it. They say these suicidists are depressed from
not having their good old American day in court. Picky, picky, picky!
You know how long it takes to get to court these days? Besides, how do
we defend ourselves against asymmetry if people go quibble about
lawyers and fair trials and all like that? You squirm about a pretend
drowning or two, you piss and moan about a little torture. What do
you expect? This is war, buddy, and if you fool me once, you know,
then you, uh, then you’ve fooled me. But you can’t… but… I don’t… if…
you know… you’re not gonna get away with it the next time. You got me?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....eThey.html
RWC,
Well, the Tennessee race is tightening up.
I really wouldn’t hold out any hope for Maine. Mount Olympia is one of the highest rated Senators in the nation…
-GSD
hmmm…inadvertent double post
GSD–Yeah- I know- but the polling I just looked at showed her at only 48% against a generic dem. Might have been a bad poll- but in general- an incumbent who’s running below 50% at this point is in a bit of trouble.
Pun,
Here is Linc’s link:
http://politicalwire.com/archi.....ss_up.html
-GSD
GSD #73:
I saw that, too. I can only imagine the delta in cost structures between the nominally-capatalistic moochers at NRO and the progressive mods here who’re beating the daylights outta Buckley’s Bozos at their own (nominal) game.
BTW, if some of us placed an ad on their site, would we have some clout re: their editorial stance? Heh-heh-heh…!
john in sacto, thanks much, I got it and will study. ‘preciate the help.
RE: Net neutrality, Craig Newmark’s explanation at CNN is good, but I hate to send them traffic because they still have that shitheel McCurry’s “opposing view” gibberish up as well. Maybe Craig has his posted elsewhere? I’ll look, see if I can find it.
rwc — Wow, Olympia Snowe in trouble too? That’s a surprise, I have to admit.
If Democrats can make the connection that there “nice” Republican Senator will go in the tank for Bush in his endless wars, propganda and corporate giveaways to the aristocrats…it might work.
Olympia is a nice lady, but, she’s in the tank for the R party. End of story.
-GSD
GSD- The Tennessee race is in the big six too- probably the toughest of the six.
Pennsylvania (looking really good)
Montana (looking surprisingly good)
Ohio (finally looking good again)
Missouri (too close to call)
Rhode Island (ditto)
Tennessee (finally starting to show some hope)
just posted this diary on the DSCC website….
**************
This is an outrage.
Not one DIME should be given by any Democrat until Charles Schumer resigns as chair of the DSCC, and his replacement states unequivocally that the DSCC will enthusiastically support whichever Democrat wins the Connecticut primary.
Its bad enough that the DSCC is interfering in the primary process in Connecticut, its even worse that it is supporting Joe Lieberman despite the fact that he refuses say he will support the choice of Connecticut Democrats for their Senate candidate.
Schumer is exactly what is wrong with the Democratic Party today…. most of our “leaders” ar more concerned with maintaining their own power and perquisites, than with serving the American people.
I will be writing to Howard Dean, asking him to publicly repudiate Schumer, and tell Schumer that the DNC will ONLY be providing support to Democratic House candidates unless Schumer resigns, and a real Democrat takes his place.
(and you people have the gaul to name your website “From the Roots”!)
Kirby 81: thanks for the info on CT voting machines. Anyone know of a site that breaks down what kind of machines are in each state? Sho would be interesting to look at that data alongside primaries. . .
FWIW, I’ve never figured myself for a conspiracy theorist, but since 00 and 04, I’m so full of distrust and suspicion (and of course, that time-honored emotion of melancholy) that I believe these elections are completely up for grabs.
And someone said (and later it was echoed) that we are in the midst of a perfect storm (of netroots/grassroots coming together). That is a beautiful sentiment. Let’s keep clinging to it.
AirportCat @ 5:31 pm (#62) - I can go through the tutorial again, but the quick way to learn about this and other HTML tricks is to use your browser’s “view source” feature. Right click on the page in question, then pick the menu item that’s closest in meaning to “view source”. That will show you the HTML that was used to create that page. Search for the text that has an interesting feature, say block quoting, and look at the tags around it. Now I’ll go find that damn tutorial I wrote and save it to a file this time.
haven’t read all the comments, but schumer shouldn’t be too quick to take credit for jim webb either. in the wapoo article i read last night, they gave big props to bloggers who very determinedly leaned on webb to join the campaign.
“His decision sparked a brief but fierce fight within Virginia’s Democratic Party. For three months, party traditionalists who backed Miller clashed with young and passionately antiwar bloggers, who had helped to persuade Webb to jump into the Senate race.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....338_2.html
lotus- well “in trouble” is probably an exaggeration- but it looks as if taking her seat is not impossible.
op99 #78
The interview was around 30 minutes around lunch time on Thursday. It was very accurate & concise. The interesting thing is that the reporter asked me to talk “off the record” but I also gave him the “Mother’s eye…” and told him I would hunt him down if he trashed me….. He wanted to know my opinion on the “traditional media”…. I was brutally honest. Some are lazy, poor research, make shit up, told him I had no idea what the truth was anymore.
RWCole,
Let’s hope for the VA race now that Webb is in. It’ll be nice to see Curious George with his tit in a wringer.
-GSD
nellieh at 44: Schumer said Webb was a “fighter” and happy to have him. He beat the endorsed candidate.
This is incorrect. The DSCC endorsed Webb in the primary, so he was the endorsed candidate. The fact that he also had the majority of netroots backing doesn’t make it any less wrong.
rwcole #93
AZ Kyl vs Pederson is even polling now!
Bonzarella @95 –
I am convinced that the electoral votes in FL 00 and OH 04 were stolen by Bush. With the electoral college, that’s the beauty — you only need to corrupt one, maybe two key states.
Now THERE’S a movement I could get behind — get rid of the electoral college so the majority vote getter wins — so that dark blue states like NY can finally have the impact of its numbers, and the candidates are forced to strategize a true national campaign rather than living in PA, OH, FL
Re the Tennessee race:
If you haven’t seen Bob Corker’s daughter’s facebook photos (see the link here), hang on for a little fun:
http://www.wonkette.com/politi.....180720.php
and yeah, i know it be dangerous to link to a wonkette site from FDL this week, but I swear I got the initial from huffpo! Dig a little further on the wonkette site, and you’ll see Frist’s son wearing confederate pants (for a KA “Old South” party no doubt) and an oh-so-elegant beer can belt. good times.
lotus 91
rwc - Wow, Olympia Snowe in trouble too? That’s a surprise, I have to admit.
Snowe melting?
global warning … to all repubs.
amen, Kirby @103.
electoral college needs to go!
And boldly, I suggest we mount an anti-electoral college campaign by paraphrasing Colbert from last night (I can see the posters now):
THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE: WTF Would Jesus Do?
Fascinating, katymine 99. You’ve been there before, eh? (learned how to keep reporters in line, that is — well done)
What do you all think about the possibility that Joe will bail out of the primary if it looks like he’s going to lose so he doesn’t have to take the loss?
Fits with his “Gang of 14″ crap, and positions him perfectly “Politics are too partisan today — we need to focus on what’s best for America, so I have decided to become and independent so I am not beholden to any party….” — and as Jane noted, positions him as the Unity 08 presidential candidate — how deep are the connections between them and Joey already?
Did anyone at yealyKos meet John Laesch? !!
He’s not running against Joe the idiot, but he is running against DENNIS HASTERT the fat pig.
This young man strikes me as just what the Dems need, Smart