Today, we're discussing our experiences during our Crashing the Gates action last month. As you probably know, Philo and I worked together to organize a group of volunteers to deliver a copy of Jerome's and Markos' book, Crashing the Gate to every Democrat on Capitol Hill. It was a hectic day, so hectic that we really never had a chance to sit down with each other and hear about what people's experiences were like. We also had a number of post-action responses, some of which we are putting up here. We hope that some of the other volunteers can tell us some stories in comments.
RedShift sums up the first impressions of people who were, as I was, visiting the Hill for the first time:
One of the great things about this was experiencing how accessible our government really is. Every office has a sign outside that say "Please come in." Staffers are ready to talk to anyone who shows up. Once you've walked in the first time, it's not intimidating at all (heck, it's less intimidating that a lot of corporate offices I've been to.)
There's no guarantee that they'll do what you want them to, of course, but being there gives you a great sense that it really is our government, not the government. If you're visiting DC for business, vacation, or a rally, I'd encourage you to drop in on your representatives. It's not one of the typical tourist stops, but it's well worth the trip.
That picture at the top of the page is of Jim Preston and Paradox65, two MD NetRooters who were gracious and energetic enough to make us part of their very busy day.
Jim describes the meeting that preceded the photo op above:
Our warmest reception occurred at the office of Darlene Hooley (OR-5) (photo above). Rep. Hooley had had some interesting interactions with bloggers from blueoregon.com, and wanted to make a good impression with us. Her Legislative Director, Joan Mooney Evans, let us know that Rep. Hooley really wanted to meet us and get a picture so we waited for a few minutes until she got back from another meeting. They were all very nice, and Rep. Hooley was really great. She is very down-to-earth and enjoys a good laugh. She regaled us with stories about her appearance on The Colbert Report which I was excited to be able to pass on to my kids. We were all laughing about "The Fightin' Fifth" as we took the picture and went on our merry way. We also had a very pleasant reception at the offices of Grace Napolitano (CA-38).
Paradox65 has a homier take:
Me and Jim stayed paired up, a tag team if you will. We got some strange looks in the tunnels, a rather eclectic bunch of people carrying armloads of books(I recall seeing one gentleman wearing a elephant with american flag tie walk by,a rather dour look on his face as he came across us. Hahaha!)Got a few puzzeled stares, met a few LD's, had one staffer chase us down in the hall after we had left; he wanted more details. And some offices were waiting for us, even took pics. Rep.Hooley was a character, she wanted to meet us so we waited for her. We were given a much appreciated drink of water there too!As the day wore on the word seemed to spread ,some expressed concern that they had gotten left off the list.(Nope,we had 'em). Finally the House was done--off to the Senate. We ended in the same building we had started in. To RagingGurrll, who was running the camera, I hope your feet feel better. But how many people can say they strolled through a Senate office building barefoot? The deliveries rolled on. Let me take time to say Jim was great at giving the personal touch when delivering, giving thanks for the Rep or Senator's work on different projects, speeches, peace initatives, whatever. He really knows what's going on in that town.
Jim and Paradox65 spent the morning meeting with their Senators’ (Sarbanes and Mikulski) staff, discussing Iran and other nationality security concerns. You can see a full write up of their day over at the CtGProject site.
Philo, who first had the idea and handled media and Hill contacts posted a full account of his day.
Here’s my favorite excerpt from that post:
A young man introduced himself as Yoni Cohen, Congressman Stark's press secretary. Mind you, I'd been out of Starks office for at least three minutes and made it about thirty feet down the hall. Yoni had chased me down to talk about the book and find out more about the action. I chatted with him for about five minutes and left gratified that a congressional aide thought enough of our efforts to even attempt to follow me down the hall to talk.
The best part for me was the time Philo and I spent with Tim Cullen (Media Technology Director) and Sheryl Cohen (Chief of Staff) of Senator Dodd’s office. We had a broad and deep discussion about the nature of the netroots, our demographics, the intensity of our involvement and our numbers. Sheryl was very much engaged—on the day that Dodd had announced for the presidency, which must have been a very full one. I left feeling that we had supported Tim in his efforts to increase the role the blogosphere plays in Dodd’s media strategy. Tim was the only person from the Hill who reached out and contacted us before the event, just by the way. And Tim reports that the Senator has finished the first chapter, and there is a podcast coming after he's read another chunk of the book.
There were also some developments after the event. A commenter suggested following up with our elected officials to make sure they’d gotten the book, and to urge the officials to read Crashing the Gate . That we did. There was a flood of calls into the offices of our elected officials. We hope that you'll post your experiences in comments.
The recipients have chimed in as well:
Congressman Paul E. Kanjorski (PA-11):
"Democracy only works if well-informed and responsible people participate. "Crashing the Gate" highlights the way that individual citizens can more fully participate and help elect leaders who truly represent the American people. Because we are the party of the people, the Democratic Party should be in the better position to benefit from a well-informed and activist electorate."
Rob Pierson from Mike Honda’s (CA-15) office:
Every Congressional office should read this book to learn about the growing impact of the blogosphere, and how it increasingly empowers citizens to impact political discourse.
It’s on Representative Jim Moran’s reading list published in the Washington Examiner (h/t Eric Durland)
Via his Outreach Director, Bryan Spooner, Moran tells us that “Crashing the Gate is at the top of my summer reading list. From what I've heard so far, it provides very insightful analysis for progressives working to chart a course to the majority."
We've had other, private, communications from other offices. One staffer got in touch with us, through another Congressional office, asking whether we had delivered a copy to her Rep's office. As Paradox65 says above, everybody got one. In this case, I happened to have made the delivery. In the process of straightening this out (somebody probably took it home and hadn't fessed up), our contact said that the book is a "hot item." Another office reported that there's a waiting list for CtG, and the Chief of Staff is next on the list. And that's just a sample.
When we started working on this, it was my opinion that the event mattered as much as the upshot; if the book got shelved as so many gift books no doubt do, our presence and the contributions of the invididuals who bought the books would nonetheless stand out as a demonstration of people-powered politics. The confluence of events has made this more successful than I had hoped for--Lamont's victory happened the weekend before, and Tester's shortly thereafter. Oh, yes, and there was YKos. The folks inside the Beltway want to know what to make of the netroots, and this project will help them figure us out. And, hey, if we keep it up, "them" will become "us."
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I just want to thank Jane for coming up with the idea for this discussion, and hope that you folks can bring your experiences into comments.
Jay thanks for taking the time to do this. At the FDL caucus this week RevDeb told her wonderful story about how they kept making their presence known to John Kerry’s staffers and the staffers volunteered to meet with them once a month. I hope that everyone who took the trouble to contact their reps uses the personal information they gained to keep those contacts up in the future. It’s an extremely powerful tool and it’s going to be absolutely necessary if we’re going to let our reps know that progressive constituents are out there and really want to see their conerns addressed. You can damn well bet that MBNA and Bechtel do the same.
Excellent work. And thanks for a fine post, Jay.
BTW — is the Jim Moran link broken?
I’m very sorry to have missed the Roots Project organizing session, to hear ideas and get inspired. But I’ll be sure to connect with Raging Gurrl to get an update on what’s ahead for Roots Project/Roots Project NY.
Meanwhile, though, I left thinking about my email list — those likeminded friends and family that I send “action item” emails (basically, folks who need a “nudge” to participate in the political process).
What I’m trying to figure out is how not to over-nudge, and annoy them out of all participation while also trying to figure out how to move them toward initiating action on their own.
I’d be really interested in any thoughts/ideas/successes people would like to share.
Thanks!
(I also posted about this in crjrks’s post “The Trouble with Yearly Kos,” over at DailyKos:
http://www.dailykos.com/commen.....274/76#c76 )
Hey Jay, this is wonderful. I was one of the volunteers that day, and with crush of work haven’t had the time to write up my experiences though did post some comments over at DailyKos. My favorite moment was when Sari and I were getting off an elevator-books in hand and a staffer who was entering held the door open, waved off another person trying to enter, and asked us if we were the ones delivering CTG to offices that day. We said yes, to every Democrat, and he said he was just checking because his office hadn’t gotten one yet and he didn’t want to be left off the list. We assured him we were going to every single Democratic office and asked which one was his. “Honda” he replied. It was the first of many times we witnessed the Hill grapevine in action as more and more offices welcomed us with versions “Oh good, you’re here. We were hoping we’d get a copy too!”
Great job, Jay and everyone else. I can tell you that everyone I talked to at YearlyKos loved this project, for so many reasons.
I also want to make a formal thank you to all the elected officials who responded to the call to share with us your thoughts about the book. And for those of you who have not done so, we will keep after you.
The book is at once a message, and invitation, and on some level, a warning. We are building a movement, one that perhaps has gained your notice this weekend through our activities in Las Vegas. We’d like you to take part in that movement, and yet, we are very aware that you work for us. If you don’t take part and discuss with is, in collaborative fashion, the future of our party and our country, we can only assume you are not interested in taking part, and will respond accordingly.
Ask Joe Lieberman what that may involve.
On topic, but tying in with an earlier discussion . . .
Going back to Jane’s post on Boxer and Lieberman, I’m one of Boxer’s constituents, so I’ve got a dog in this hunt. For me, one of the services she can render is to challenge her colleagues when they are spreading fertilizer. If they want to spread it, so be it, but she doesn’t have to shovel it for them. There are lots of ways to say “I’m not going to get into a the primary elections of another state” while still saying “While I share many of the same positions as my distinguished colleague, we disagree on a few.” [OK, more than a few, but you get my drift.]
As for motives, put me down in the “clueless” camp. My gut tells me that she probably relies on the heads (formal or informal) of PP, NOW, NARAL, and the like to keep her abreast of what “women’s issue discussions” are going on, as much as she does her staff. Given how the national office folks had to be called out by CT NARAL for their support of Joe, is it any wonder that Boxer might be surprised to discover how angry some folks are about this issue?
I can’t say that I’d expect the national NARAL folks to say “Heads up, Barbara - you should know that folks are pissed at us for backing Joe against Ned.” As another poster noted this weekend, other local branch folks of NARAL and NOW are just getting up to speed on the endorsement bruhaha. I’d put Barbara Boxer in that same camp.
Reluctantly.
This CTG post describes how and why constitutent communications is important. If I’m right about Boxer’s sources of information not clueing her in on the endorsement squabbles, that only magnifies the reason why those of us OUTSIDE Connecticut need to let our reps and senators know what we think of Joe’s comments and Joe’s record.
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new to FDL so I may not get how to post links correctly — here’s the link to the Examiner story re: Jim Moran’s summer reading list: http://www.examiner.com/a-1289.....mmer_.html [Couldn’t get the a href thing to work so that the actual link].
Also, here the link over at DailyKos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/23/234424/388
Yes, I’m unhappy to say that the Examiner link is broken. It was working yesterday. Not that important. The other book that I recall on Moran’s list of three books is Packer’s The Assassins Gate, which is a fine piece of writing and reporting.
itwasntme 9 - is that the Timothy Leary equivalent of our era?
Edgery at 6-
Yes, that was Rob Pierson from Honda’s office. He was a little miffed (in a kidding way) to not have that meeting show up in the original post action follow-ups.
This is such a wonderful action. You’re doing good work and bringing a sense of hope to the rest of us out around the country.
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Jay at 14 –
I’ve heard that, but all I can say is get Honda on-line. ;-)
Peterr @ 8
I posted similar sentiments several topics ago. I’ve decided to call Boxer’s office tomorrow to ask how it is possible that she wasn’t aware of how strongly the netroots opposed Lieberman. I assume that she was unaware, because otherwise she would have been very stupid to have made such a serious mistake in front of Jane.
But then I’m reading this post and the comments and its hard to believe that the news about the book delivery spread so quickly but that news about Lieberman did not.
Pach — not ’til tonight. I’m calling you now. (If you knew how many times we’ve called each other standing only 10 feet away…)
Mike Honda represents a big chunk of Silicon Valley - how could he not be on-line?
Hi folks! Thanks to Jane, Pach, for helping move the project along, and especially to Jay and Matt for making it happen. As you can tell from our posts, Dave (paradox, DMM) and I enjoyed the whole thing. (The camera added a few pounds, though :( )
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I can’t wait to read Lieberman’s review of the book. :)
Would it be worth doing a second round of CtG gifts?
Canvas the offices that received them, and those that are excited get additional copies — those who are aware but not so excited get referred to the bookstore, so they can buy their own copies at a discount.
Curious about others’ follow-up stories? That’s the real test of an action like this. Follow-up, follow-up, follow-up. In that sense, the net is just one tool in an arsenal of ways to hold Congressfolks accountable. Get them on-line, keep the constituents aware of what they are or are not doing, write letters (not the blast mass emails, but real live you-wrote-the-whole-thing letters), make phone calls, get the name of the LA/LD working the issue, get a meeting in district. Our power on-line must be matched with follow-up. (Ok, I’ll get off my high horse now.)
Thanks to Jay, Philo, Redshift, and everyone else who took part! You’re so inspiring as a model for simple, effective action.
Regarding the Roots Project — I got an email on the day we were packing to head to the airport for our trip back home for family and a conference. No time to reply then.
Right after we got back, our hard drive fried completely. The dreaded “HDD failure.” Lost everything, including all email.
We finally got our mitts on some good recovery programs, and have been reconstructing email and everything else, for that matter. Spending lots of annoying time on re-configuring all manner of programs, trying to figure out a good back-up system (so this won’t happen again), etc.
When I finally am able to respond to the email (which I hope is part of the recovered stuff, need to check that out) about the Roots Project — will it be too late to get involved? I hope not! Things have been uh, not so lucky for us lately. The sick pupster has been time-consuming, too, of necessity.
Just wanna let y’all know you haven’t been intentionally ignored….looking forward to putting my money where my mouth is, so to speak.
and on some level, a warning
Pach at 11.
Yes. This is the part that is a little tricky for them. Vilsack in AdNag’s column today complained about “personal attacks” directed at the DLC. It’s very interesting to see that kind of comment when Markos, and the netroots have been consistently framed in a derisive fashion. The Wittman quote on Press the Meet today was illustrative. Russert quoted him saying:
1) Well, if that is not a personal attack, I don’t know what is.
2) It’s inaccurate, as Marcos points out in his response.
3) It advances the Republican narrative of “liberal” being a negative attribute.
4) If the Democratic leadership is not “hyper-partisan” then who is gonna be? Have they not noticed that a central element of Republican success is that their leadership is hyper-partisan?
Pacifica @ 18
I think the difference is that CTG is something that walked into everyone’s office, while Joe/Ned/NARAL/etc. is something that most non-CT folks on the Hill put into their mental “interesting, but what’s that got to do with my state/district?” filing cabinets.
What we need to do is get them to realize that CT is not the proberbial Vegas, and things that happen there do NOT stay there. When the former vice-presidential nominee of the democratic party say that rape victims should just amble down to the next hospital to find their Plan B, that does have something to do with their district/state.
Props to CTG for getting through to the staffs and reps on the Hill! That’s the way it’s done, folks - “Go, and do likewise.”
dunaise at 20 –
we need to teach them that having a website and a eletter they send out isn’t cutting edge any more. give them a venue to talk to constituents and across the country on-line so we turn it into an electronic town hall meeting. other ideas?
The DLC is already irrelevant. They are falling apart. They write provocative shyte like that to get our attention and lure us into talking aboutb them, in hopes of becoming relevant again. Literally. It’s amazing the people who purged us for so lon accuse us of fictional purges when we eclipse them in resonance and relevance.
Thank you, jackaroyd, and all who were there: what incredibly hard work, and what an incredible inspiration you are.
I love it that individual Dems were so anxious not to be left off the list. Says something–what, I’m not sure–about the prevailing dynamic up on the Hill, doesn’t it? I hope it also made the lonely progressives up there feel stronger, getting a flesh-and-blood visit from you. Thank you again.
Any of you other rooters coming to the Take Back AMerica conference this week in DC? I’ll be sneaking in and out (office is around the corner) and would love to see any of you.
I heard that Christy, and Taylor Marsh will be there, Sen. Feingold will be speaking, as well as many others.
pach at 11 and jay at 26 –
saw the comment from Vilsak also. The DLC does get blasted a lot on DKos (and elsewhere I assume). And blogs can be very tough places in terms of language sometimes and emotions running high, so he has part of a point to make. Politicians are more comfortable with the style of language used in old-style public fora where things are more nuanced; the net is not a very nuanced place and scare the #$^$# out of the old-style politicians.
That’s one of the reasons the CTG project was so valuable — we all looked so incredibly normal! No one was spouting fire or making demands. The net has given us an outlet but we do still need to do the hard work to get the party to see us as the moving force we are, not the ranting minority they would like to believe.
ecgery at 29
This is a big problem. In our dealings with different offices, one of the things that’s become pretty clear is that there is a pervasive bubble that is essentially driven by the need to manage messages and not make waves. The demand from the Netroots for authenticity is very disturbing to long-sitting incumbents. The deep authenticity that is part of the left blogosphere just isn’t consistent with the way that the beltway has communicated with their constituents. The notion of real give and take in an open forum is foreign to them.
We have to help them figure this out–how to maintain authenticity while not pissing off their fellow senators. Look what happened to Feingold when he just stood up and took a principled stand on an issue that is a no-brainer for anyone who finished middle-school civics.
I’ve had some email exchanges about this issue with some of the folks we’ve visited. It’s very difficult. It’s completely opposite the media strategies that have been developed over the last twenty years, and is very threatening.
Thank you for your hard work on this project.
I like your thought that “them” will become “us” one day.
On Thursday, May 25, I called the D.C. offices of the Democratic senator and representatives from Oregon and talked to staff about the hand-delivery of CtG. Despite Darlene Hooley taking advantage of a photo op (and I’m glad that she welcomed you), staffers at only one office said they had heard of CtG. Peter DeFazio’s staff said that he was looking forward to reading it and that the staff was arguing over who would get to read it after he finished it. I followed up with emails and handwritten notes to the offices of Wyden and DeFazio.
I made calls again on Friday, June 2, when at least Ron Wyden, DeFazio and Hooley were back home for the Oregon Democratic Convention. This time, alas, even DeFazio’s office said they hadn’t heard of the book.
DeFazio’s paid staffperson Nora was not aware of CtG. Earl Blumenauer’s D.C. office intern Tim had never heard of the book. David Wu’s paid staffperson Scott did not know the book. Ron Wyden’s paid staffperson in D.C., Grant, had not heard of CtG. And Wyden’s paid staffperson in his Portland office, Carla, had not heard of CtG, but expressed interest in it.
I talked to folks in these offices again last week, when calling about another issue, and they still were not familiar with the book. I said, “Oh, wow, that’s too bad. You know, Crashing the Gate zoomed into Amazon’s top 500 books last week and it’s must reading. We sure wanted (the senator/representative) to be ahead of the curve on this one.”
I don’t think this is discouraging. Training those who represent us is like training cats. It takes patience.
Jane, good point about using the information about paid staff and interns to good advantage in future contacts. Now I know where folks grew up, where they went to school, where their grandmothers were born, etc. and those are good ways to connect with them on a human basis.
Re Steve N. @28 - replies from previous thread:
punaise 225
steve N @223 - that doesn’t sound like FDL to me. differing opinions are respected around here as long as they are expressed in a civil way.
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steve -
I have a hard time believing that, too. Did you get a message “comment awaiting moderation”? If so, EVERYBODY gets that here, from time to time, it’s a function of imperfect software, we all just put up with it.
If the post was civil it’ll be up here shortly.
OT re: Boxer
Peterr & Pacifica - given that Boxer had been on the YKos schedule for quite some time, it seems odd that her only preparation would have been a speech. When wading into the largest gathering of netroots-ers and bloggers, it’s hard to understand why she was not better prepared for those spontaneous hallway interviews…
Back on topic:
I try to bring up CtG and Glenn’s book whenever I can find a way to work it into the conversation. I work with some pretty die-hard Republicans, as well as some who might fail the “who’s the president?” test. My family is about evenly divided as far as party identification, and we always have some “animated” political discussions. Lately, I’ve been able to throw things into these discussions that literally make people stop talking - and that’s not easy to do in my family! (and it isn’t “SHUT UP” - that one NEVER works!).
OT: praise? or sensing an easy target?
I just want to point out again how awesome edgery was at the disribution of the books. The project would have failed without her timely infusion of know-how and logistical management. You are a real treasure, m’lady!
pach at 30
The DLC has outlived its usefulness at this point, I agree. There will still be many Dems who sign on but fewer now see it as the driving intellectual force they’d hoped for.
Did you get to go to Brad Carson (D-OK)’s office and what kind of reception did you get from him? He is the only D in the pitiful Oklahoma delegation, and although I want to believe his heart is in the right place, he has to operate under Deep Cover to survive in this rosy-red state, as do all us progressives here.
Good work, y’all. This warms my heart to no end.
jayackroyd at 2:27 pm –
Great post — but what do we call the GOP Leadership?
They are always hyper-partisan, but they are NOT conservative. What do we call them?
Hyper-Partisan Gangsters?
Hyper-Partisan Right Wingers?
Hyper-Partisan Corporate Whores?
Hyper-Partisan Hypocrites?
Hyper-Partisan Liars?
Or do we assault their brand identity, and call them Hyper-Partisan Hacks that pretend to be Conservaitve?
How do we encapsulate the essence of the GOP betrayal of America, and the kool-aid drinking voters that support them?
Regarding what Jay said about the caution that Hill-people have. Take a look at the way people get savaged both on-line, in public, and on the radio for each verbal misstep. It is really difficult to get the pols to engage. The staffers, on the other hand, have much dirtier hands and are willing to mix it up a lot more. The staffers do the work, too, remember.
SteveN-
Your comment isn’t erased - it’s way back a couple of threads.
As for being labelled a troll . . . well, I found your comments - there and here - to be mostly ad hominem attacks, and not an invitation to debate. If that’s not the mark of a troll, then I don’t know what is.
Two things,
The staffer at Kerrys office in Boston is the director of the office. Prof. Foland brought along a book to leave for him. Jon said he would “borrow it” from us because he could not accept the book. We urged him to read it and pass it around the office. They could all “borrow it.”
He ran for congress in IN against Hoestettler (sp?) and lost, no surprise. Jon e-mailed me early in the week to say that he had finished the book and it very much reflected the race he was in and how it all worked (not happily). He gets it.
I was in Markey’s office mid-week and asked the aide I knew there what happened with the book delivery. I had given her a heads up the day before. She said that when the book was delivered, they fought over it. We don’t know who has it, but the interest was high.
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I am so glad I jumped in and decided to come to YKos. It has been an amazing experience that will take me weeks, maybe months to digest. The most exciting thing (aside from meeting everyone and making friends) is the anticipation of what we hope to create with the Roots Project. Pach, Jane and Christy know lots that we don’t know yet about how this online community will form and communicate, but there is a feeling in my gut that this will be very important.
Again I need to say how warm and welcoming Pach, Jane and Christy have been to us in the flesh. I really do have the feeling that we are all in this together.
edgery:
I don’t see more dems signing on. They’ve taken down their affiliated dems page, I recently heard, because no one was left, everyone was bolting. Being associated with the DLC has become political cancer. Their executive director is never in the office, probably out looking for a new job.
See what I mean?
Irrelevant.
Jayackroyd — This is a big problem. In our dealings with different offices, one of the things that’s become pretty clear is that there is a pervasive bubble that is essentially driven by the need to manage messages and not make waves. The demand from the Netroots for authenticity is very disturbing to long-sitting incumbents. The deep authenticity that is part of the left blogosphere just isn’t consistent with the way that the beltway has communicated with their constituents. The notion of real give and take in an open forum is foreign to them.
I’m coming to understand that bubble is made of titanium. Very hard to penetrate, much like that of journalists who see communication as one-way. Edgery 24 — absolutely right, follow-up is critical. We’ll be launching the new website soon and I hope this conversation will continue, I don’t want to let this one go.
Old Gardener 35 — Now I know where folks grew up, where they went to school, where their grandmothers were born, etc. and those are good ways to connect with them on a human basis.
Very good point and that’s what distinguishes us from astroturf. Very, very important.
I’m on daddy duty right now,get in on the dicussion in a little bit
Peterr & Pacifica - given that Boxer had been on the YKos schedule for quite some time, it seems odd that her only preparation would have been a speech. When wading into the largest gathering of netroots-ers and bloggers, it’s hard to understand why she was not better prepared for those spontaneous hallway interviews
Anne at 37
You’re hitting at the heart of the problem. AdNag’s sneers at the YKos crowd when he says that this is probably the first time that they have heard a stump speech, but he’s surrounding a real point.
Stump speeches aren’t gonna be all that effective in these fora. They’re essentially contentless. They reinforce the play-it-safe messaging that has become the hallmark of the beltway consultants. In their foxholes, as Feingold says, in fear of a 30 second radio spot in the next general election.
The reason Dean was and is effective is that he does not shy away from clear, firm statements. The reason they sabotaged him (as Markos and Jerome document) is that they fear clear, firm statements. This is going to be a lengthy educational process, but wins by Tester and Lamont will become teaching moments–if they happen, that is.
Old Gardener at 35 –
Way to go! Ask them often (or to paraphrase Chicago politicos, early and often). We delivered the books mostly to the front desk person, except where we could get to the member or another staffer. In many offices, the book likely has landed in a pile of gifts or on a bookshelf somewhere. It’s a good idea to point that out, ask them to track it down so the MoC can get it into her/his hands. Remind them you’ll be getting back to them re: a reaction. CTG is a wonderful conversation opener I’ve found. Jim Moran (VA) added it to his list in part because he knows Armstrong but more because of what we did.
Nothing to report on follow up…yet.
However I would like to share a story about reaching out to elected officials from the opposition party. Read about the response BostonJoe’s Petals for Peace effort received:
http://www.boomantribune.com/s.....2134/80593
I’d provide the link to the reciprocal post at DailyKos, but I still can’t get into the site even though I’ve cleared history and cache. Amazing work, and almost cliche response by one of the “beneficiaries”. Heh.
I just want to point out again how awesome edgery was at the disribution of the books. The project would have failed without her timely infusion of know-how and logistical management. You are a real treasure, m’lady!
Pach
Yes, but you’re leaving out the fact that she also spearheaded the pre-delivery organization of the books, by building, and within building, by office, with stickers inside and post-it notes outside. Oh, and made up maps for everybody, and spreadsheet printouts with locations by building. And gave a very helpful introduction to Hill etiquette on the day of the action.
When I walked up to the group, sweating, tugging along on three boxes of books on a trolley, I said “edgery, you’re in charge.” And she certainly was.
jayackroyd says
June 11th, 2006 at 2:27 pm
If a liberal is one who resents the administration’s trampling of the Constitution - then I’m a liberal.
If a liberal is one who doesn’t believe in attacking non-threatening sovereign countries - then I’m a liberal.
If a liberal is one who can’t even fathom how a govt can think torture’s a *good* thing - then I’m a liberal.
If a liberal is one who thinks that the govt should damn well stay off my phone and internet lines - then I’m a liberal.
If a liberal is one who fails to hate merely because my “leaders” tell me I should hate - then I’m a liberal.
And if there are some who consider that calling me a liberal is an insult - then..
fuck ‘em.
Ed Kilgore is a great guy — does anyone know if he is looking to jump ship from the DLC?
And instead of yKos, later this summer Denver is hosting a DLC convention, with Hillary and Rahm and the rest of the krew, rolling out their plan to take over America.
Pach at 46 –
you’re absolutely right, I meant to type “some” not “many”. I have friends who have worked at DLC — maybe I should check in to see what going on. Will report back.
Jane, Jayackroyd,
One approach that will hasten the demise of said bubble is for people like me - one of Pete Stark’s constituents - to contact his office, thank them for their kind reception of the book, and ask them to spread the word to other offices. If folks in PA can get Kanjorski to talk to other reps about the book, that will do wonders for getting it off the shelves and onto the reading stack for other staffers and members.
When we drop the books off, we’re outsiders coming in. If Stark, Kanjorski, and their staffers start talking about it with other members and staffers, that’s insider to insider - and their opinions will magnify our efforts.
ok, jay and pach, as much as I appreciate your compliments, I’m just an old Washington insider who wised up ;-) It was soooo much fun walking the old halls in a new way and with a lighter step. Reminded me of why I stopped and how much more gratifying it is to be a citizen-lobbyist.
Jay at 53: Magnificent — again!
I tell you what, those of you with top organizational/logistics IQs (edgery, siun, et al.), I live in awe of your breed — and BOY am I glad you’re on our side!
Peterr at 56–
My suggestion would be to ask for Yoni Cohen, the press secretary who chased down Matt.
We were supposed to get a meeting with Dodd himself. That turned into a meeting with CoS. Meeting the CoS was way more productive. She could be franker, we could be franker. She knows how to talk to the Senator. We don’t.
One thing this visit reinforced for me is that staff contact is key. They’re the ones who deliver the message to the boss. We want to influence them–the boss can’t speak openly and honestly to us, at least at this point in time in American history.
And, while we don’t bring money to the table, we do bring buzz and we may even bring votes. We need to get staff to understand that–and we need some high-profile wins.
This next week’s “Take Back America” conference will be rather interesting as its list of speakers is heavily weighted with DLC folks; the sponsoring organization is dense with old-school union and educational institution folks.
Wonder what we’ll be seeing emerging as the storyline from this conference, apart from our ReddHedd?
Peterr at 56 –
so true. everytime someone calls and asks how the MoC likes the book, it reinforces that there are people out there–constituents–who know what’s going on. someone out at YearlyKos said we can be the megaphone, and this is a great time to do it. Let Boxer know what’s happening with Joe/Ned. Help Stark get the message out about CTG. As we create these opportunities, it’s all about how we use them to engage others and the Hill.
Also, totally agree re the staff. Members get sliced and diced over minor verbal gaffs; staff have the luxury of not always being in the spotlight. They are our best friends into the office (or our worst nightmares if we tic them off).
OK’I'm here,did I miss anything?
punaise –
Thanks! for copying my msg to “Steve” in the last thread; I was just about to repeat it when I saw you took care of it.
I have a feeling we may get a flood of folks with less than friendly, open, or honest sentiment now that FDL has become even MORE high-profile as a result of the conference.
But we all know the drill now, and that it’ll pass. And that it’s a sign of increasing success!
Any democrat that uses the internets is a part of a left wing echo chamber that speaks to a hyper-partisan, very liberal slice of the democratic party.
That is big time marginalization of a broad spectrum and massive segment of our society. Marcos mentioned something about 10,000,000 internet users - I don’t recall the context.
The statement is full of misleading hyperbole that is intended to smear democrats.
Part of its intent is to frighten fence sitting “conservatives” and “centrists” (and plain ignorant buffoons) who might otherwise be willing to consider a progressive agenda.
Part of its intent is to convince status quo democratic leaders that we are a wacky leftist fringe. Many leading dems wish it were true and it comforts them to hear it.
It is insulting. Its an uphill battle fighting against this kind of Pumkinhead Propaganda day and night.
jayt says at 2:46 pm –
Great “If XYZ is true, then I am a Liberal” narrative –
I gave the Dukakis campaign a similar script the week before the election — the Duke said he was a Liberal, but without the force of the buildup.
I, too am a Liberal —
Liberals saved the Country, when the Conservatives caused the Great Depression . . .
Liberals saved the world, when Conservatives were funding Nazi Germany and calling for neutrality . . .
Liberals saved the world, when the Soviet Union was trying to crush the West and Conservatives wanted Nuclear War . . .
Liberals saved America, by enacting Civil Rights legislation — Conservatives became Republicans, to hide their racism and hatred of the America that wasn’t white or rich.
Liberals made a huge mistake, by thinking that Republicans would play fair, or respect the rule of law.
Liberals are now PISSED OFF, and ready to kick some GOP Ass . . .
Rayne at 60
I can’t be there (work) but hope others will do live-blogging so others can get a feel for what’s going on. Will it be the old-style politicians talking to themselves, or will there be a few rumbles in the crowd calling for change?
1,177 DAYS AND THE KILLING GOES ON AND ON AND..
The impact of the blogromp in Vegas will be felt for a long time. We should talk up the upcoming gathering in DC, I think that C-SPAN coverage of various seminars and panels at these events could advance “the movement” in quantum leaps Monthly gatherings on specific timely topics could be a model for the new think tank, AEI, CATO or even Brookings. If we can keep a national weekend seminar goin every month on different timely topics like Iraq or election protection or Plamegate or…I think that the coordination on line between the “major blogs” could pull this off and it would go a long way to finishin’ off the corporate media’s controll of opinion-making.
KEEP THE FAITH, WE’VE GOT THE EMPEROR LOOKIN’ FOR HIS PANTS!!!
NFT@67
The Emperor lookin’ for his pants? Maybe they are with the WMDs. Under his desk? Under his bed? Heaven knows what we’d find consorting with the dust bunnies under the bed.
staff have the luxury of not always being in the spotlight.
We’ve also been very respectful of keeping things off the record. I know that sounds like acting like Jim Vanderhei, but there’s that sausage making thing involved. There’s been more communication with the Hill than we’ve recounted here. Our ability to influence is tied to our ability to keep in touch discreetly, and provide assistance in the educational process of communicating with the blogosphere.
And, you know, I’m just saying……
Today Markos pointed out to Russert that the Dean movement reflected a blogosphere a 20th the size of the blogosphere today. It’s not gonna get smaller, and YKos will contribute to further growth.
Moreover, I’m having repeated conversations with people who echo the blogosphere’s demand that someone stand up. People who are not on the web. The blogosphere represents a much broader movement than these people realize. And it’s already, itself, pretty damned broad.
I’ve also found that Glenn’s preface is a powerful force. I’ve said, about half a dozen times, to people who are not all that politically engaged, to just read the first page and a half.
They’ve responded, invariably, by saying that’s exactly how I feel.
Re: “the titanium bubble” — nice turn of phrase, as always, Jane — it seems to me that it’s the classic one of forgetting who your constituents are. If you never talk seriously to the electorate, except at staged dog and pony shows, like the fundraiser I’m about to attend, it’s pretty easy to think that the only folks who matter are your peers and your pollsters.
That’s why talking dirty to them gets their attention. Once you do have their attention, best them in a couple of primaries where the issues are really issues, and I’ll wager they’ll stop worrying about “lese majeste” for good and all.
Modification of my 2:23pm suggestion for a second round of CtG book donations –
Invite FDLers and others to sponsor copies (purchased at a discount) which would then be the free half of a “buy one get one free” promotion for Hill Staffers . . .
That way, we send business to the bookstore that was so helpful, and get two wanted copies of the book into the hands of those who can put it to good use, from inside the system.
I am watching the Plame panel and I have to stop for a moment to say how proud I am of all of you and how impressed I am with the quality of your work. I just keep smiling as I watch it. You are all glowing!
OT — for those interested
At 7pm ET (in less than an hour) there’ll be a live streaming ACLU event on “Spying, Secrecy, and Presidential Power.” Found here:
http://www.aclu.org/presidentialpower
Speakers will include John Dean and James Bamford, among others.
If you have to miss it live, I think it’ll be archived at the ACLU website later.
All right,I’m caught up on the comments now.I’d like to say how much I enjoyed meeting everyone involved in the CtG project.It was great being involved,to take some action,though I did’nt realize it would have as much of an effect as it seems to have had.
Also was good to meet Jim,my’partner in crime’from MDroots.Thought about ya as I fought Beltway traffic coming home from climbing yesterday.
Uh, you may have guessed (although I forgot to write) that the ACLU event is TONIGHT.
By the way ya’all-I delivered Leberman’s copy.
it seems to me that it’s the classic one of forgetting who your constituents are.
William Timberman at 69
It seems to be deeper than that to me. What makes the bubble out of titanium is that they seem to be engaged in a systematic project to not merely forget their constituents, but eliminate their relevance. The backlash that you’re seeing in the rank and file of the Republican party is driven by exactly the same emotions and observations that is driving our demand that Democrats stand up.
In the Republican case, the religious right, the libertarians and the fiscal conservatives are finally starting to notice that their programs are not being advanced. This is especially true in the west, as an article in this month’s Atlantic discusses. The libertarian, small government folks out there don’t support much of anything this government is doing right now. The religious right has gotten very little in the way of rewards for their loyalty.
It’s the same mechanism; incumbency trumps policy. Making money trumps responsible governance. Playing it safe trumps telling the truth. Gerrymandering trumps constituent responsiveness.
DMM –
Re: Lieberman’s copy. Did you include a little note, perhaps? ;-)
nancy 72-
I agree.
The Plame Panel was the best feature of the program on Friday. I saw all of Friday’s but did not see any Saturday YKos programming.
Of course, the Plame Panel contained all the stars.
In any event, it was very well done. All speakers were interesting and top notch.
Mrs. K8
No, we were very, very nice to everyone. I even had some rubberstamps, leftover from the rubberstamp action, that I intended to drop into Snowe’s office. (I’m from ME originally and have a 207 VOIP line that I use to call her.) But it was just a few days after Snowe-Dorgan, and we were all being so positive, I didn’t have the heart. So, instead, I spoke with a staffer I’d exchanged email with, and thanked them for her sponsorship of net neutrality.
An important point about meeting with staffers is that it is much better to go into it with an attitude of “Let’s all learn something” than “Here are all of my talking points, shut up and learn from me.” You all may think that everyone on the hill is clueless, but that would not be correct. They have heard most of your talking points before, so unless you engage them, you are just pissing into the wind. Dave and I spoke with a nice staffer from Sen. Sarbanes’ office about international relations. She was very knowledgable about the NPT, the India and Iran situations, and Iraq, but was interested to learn about other sources of info like Juan Cole. A lot of bloggers might jump up and shout “You must be an idiot not to know about Juan Cole”, but she was actually incredibly well-informed. We’re all ignorant of something, I’m quite sure.
K8,
No,but you can belive I wanted to.Perhaps saying how much I’ve donated to Lamont.
But we were playing nice.
jim preston 80 — good point. It’s about communication, a two-way street. Listening is just as important.
Well, jackaroyd 77, that’s a loop we either have to BUST or lose our country to. I prefer to think of it as a helix whose bottom we’ve spiralled down to — and now we’re starting to spiral back up.
It used to be a loop, but along came the Web/blogosphere and sat down beside it. Smashed its perfect closedness and sprang the thang lose from itself. Now with its ends open again, the helix is not only navigable but flushed with fresh air — at last.
(Mixed me a metaphor or more there, but I still kinda like it. *g*)
As Jim and Jay have stated,we made more progress because we weren’t shrill,pushing our agenda,whatever.I think these staffers have special intrest groups screaming at them all day,but a whisper can get their attention,espesally one that is resonable.
Here’s another excerpt from DMM’s recount of his visit: re Lieberman
Jim Preston 80
Second the good point. What we in MA are doing with Jon, the staffer is mutually trying to figure out how we can work together to help one another. It isn’t about us asking for action or him asking for support. The virtue of having the promise of monthly meetings is that we get to figure this out together.
I can’t tell you how pumped we felt each time we met with him or another staffer before him. We left the meeting energized and aware that next time we need to build in time to sit and debrief afterwards. It is a learning process for us all. We’re just thrilled to have someone receptive to doing this with us.
I don’t think our situation needs to be unique. Especially after this week in Vegas, I’d bet that more congress critters will want to build a relationship with us. Now would be a great time for follow-up after all the press we have gotten.
Question, Jane:
Has anyone discussed a nationwide project for getting copies of CTG to Dem party leadership in each state? Govs, candidates, campaign chairs, etc? If we’re wanting to build awareness and a coalition on every level, wouldn’t this be a plus?
Jim Preston at 80
Yes, I came away with the same impression of the importance of listening. They are, in fact, much, much more knowledgable than we are about the progress of legislation and about the contents of bills. There have been times when we were providing useful information–in a meeting with my USRep’s local office on net neutrality, for example. But, for the most part, I think we should be trying get into the flow of information that moves through their offices. We can only do that by being respectful.
It’s important to keep in mind that policy staffers spend all their time on their issues. They know way more than we do.
Here’s an exce