
According to the WaPo, former Northwestern Ohio GOP power broker Tom Noe pleaded guilty yesterday to federal charges of illegally funnelling money into the Bush re-election campaign.
Tom Noe, who also raised money for Ohio Republicans, also is charged with embezzlement in an ill-fated $50 million coin investment that he managed for the state workers' compensation fund.The investment scandal has been a major embarrassment for Ohio's ruling Republicans and has given Democrats a better shot at winning state offices this year, including the governor's office, which has been under GOP control since 1991.
Investigators do not know whether Noe used money from the coin fund for campaign donations.
Noe was charged with exceeding federal campaign contribution limits, using others to make the contributions and causing the Bush campaign to submit a false campaign-finance statement.
He said that he pleaded guilty to "spare my family and many dear friends" the ordeal of a trial.
Noe, 51, has been free on bond since he was indicted in October, and he is living in Florida. Prosecutors planned to recommend a sentence of two to 2 1/2 years. The maximum sentence would be five years on each of three counts and a combined $950,000 in fines. A sentencing date was not set.
In the other case, Noe has pleaded not guilty to stealing at least $1 million from the coin investment. A trial is scheduled for Aug. 29. (emphasis mine)
The part where Noe says he was pleading to spare his family the trial -- that's called lack of acceptance of responsibility for one's crimes. No matter that Noe also said in court that he accepted responsibility -- that sort of CYA public media statement is guaranteed to be the sort of quote that pisses off a federal judge if Noe has drawn a "tough on crime" type judge. (And in Ohio, what are the odds...) His defense counsel will be drilling the "I accept full responsibility" language into him, no doubt, throughout the entire pre-sentence investigation that will be done for the federal judge prior to any sentencing in the case.
Noe, a Republican Party County Chairman, had been Mr. GOP power broker in NW Ohio for many years. There isn't an important Republican office holder in a state-- where ALL the important office holders are Republicans-- who isn't beholden to Noe, from Governor Taft, Secretary of State Blackwell, ex-Governor/now Senator Voinovich, Attorney General Petro, State Auditor Montgomery, right up to 5 of the 7 Supreme Court judges. And in a state with virtual one-party rule (and with a Secretary of State who has been clearly shown to be a manipulator of vote counting), there were no checks and no balances. Even if you didn't follow the Enron case too closely, you must be aware how many millions of dollars were lost (read: "STOLEN") from employees' retirement funds (that is, from the voluntary private accounts the employees had). In this case, the Republican office holders-- the ones with the legal fiduciary responsibility for protecting the money collected from taxpayers, the ones with no checks and no balances-- decided to "invest" MILLIONS of dollars from the Ohio Workers' Compensation Bureau into a highly speculative fund, which buys and sells rare coins, run by the GOP Chairman of Lucas County, Thomas Noe. No other state invests public money in something this risky but the most charitable thing I've heard about this "strategy" is that its safer than taking the money to a riverboat gambling operation.While Noe was funneling HUGE sums of money into the Bush/Cheney campaign and into the campaigns of Governor Taft, Secretary of State Blackwell, Senators Voinovich and DeWine, Attorney General Petro, State Auditor Montgomery, a gaggle of Republican congressmen and state legislators, and 5 of the 7 Ohio Supreme Court judges, as much as 20% of the investment was "lost" (again, read: "stolen"). We're not talking about the values decreasing; we're talking about the coins being PHYSICALLY lost ("stolen")....
State charges are still pending for Tom Noe at this point -- no deal has been reached, as yet. If you live in Ohio, especially if you live in Lucas County where the state charges are pending or if you had an interest in the state wokers' compensation fund, put some pressure on your local officials about this. Letters to the editor for the local newspapers in Lucas County, as well as statewide papers, are something that local prosecutors pay attention to -- especially around election time. (I know, I used to work for one. Trust me when I say that a squeaky wheel is a good thing in this sort of case -- so be the squeaky wheel. Please.)
Also, call in to the local talk radio shows and discuss the fact that the public has been bilked to the tune of over $1 million dollars -- and that Tom Noe's corruption reached the highest levels of GOP politics in Ohio and in the Bush White House.
The Toledo Blade has been doing great coverage on this story, and has a lot more here.
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He could have spared the rest of us if he hadn’t chosen the criminal path!
FITZ !!!
EffinCrookz!
Crooks and liars, crooks and liars!
The two guys in the picture, that is.
Thanks to TPM and Josh Marshall, I’ve been following CoinGate from the git, although the real credit must go to the Toledo Blade for the continuing investigative reporting…
This pleading by Noe, in sync with the oh-so-promised Rolling Stone story about the stolen election in Ohio, may create a splash !
There is some kind of stench coming out of Ohio and I am starting to smell it here in downtown DC. This stuff has a chance to make Fitzmas look like a rainy birthday party at the putt-putt. Check bradblog.com and Rolling Stone for more about Ohio Republican corruption, vote-rigging, etc. The good news is that this stuff may be big enough to make the MSM really take notice of the problems with voting machines, etc. BEFORE the mid-terms!! bradblog, the Toledo Blade, and the rest of the gang that have been busting their asses in relative obscurity are owed a hearty thanks from the American people for helping to save what is left of our democracy!!
Thank you, muckrackers and voting irregularities investigators!!!
peace,
jim
there’s more. and it has to do with voting.
and OT: this is for redd, because i don’t want her to waste her precious and talented mind trying to understand our media any more. they are totally owned.
it’s the only answer to the SCLM you need, and now there’s a direct connection between the media and the surveillance program.
Dems won’t win Shite in Ohio until they get rid of those electronic voting machines. I drove all the way to Toledo to work the 2004 election, which was stolen before our very eyes. For the life of me, I don’t understand why FDL NEVER features an article on stolen elections and electronic voting machines.
Buy tomorrow’s Rolling Stone magazine.
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002891.htm
A damning and detailed feature article, written by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., for Rolling Stone and documenting evidence of the theft of the 2004 Presidential Election is set to hit newstands this Friday, The BRAD BLOG can now confirm. The online version of the article will be posted tomorrow (Thursday) morning.
The article — headlined on the cover as “Did Bush Steal the 2004 Election?: How 350,000 Votes Disappeared in Ohio” — has been several months in development and will contend that a concerted effort was undertaken by high-level Republican officials to steal the Election in Ohio — and thus the country — in 2004!
For those of you who are interested, Peter Beinart of the New Republic will be on WaPo online at 2 PM EST, to discuss the difference between GWB and Harry Truman, in spite of the fact that George would like you to confuse them based on their proclivities for disastrous, adventurous, warmongering.
Can you say Mayberry Macchiavelians ?
Breaking News via the Blade
http://www.toledoblade.com/app.....S/60601032
plus, Mr. Noe faces 50, count ‘em 50 charges on the comp fund deal
Tom #10
I agree. Buy Rolling Stone or read the article by Robert Kennedy Jr. online.
Can anyone say culture of corruption.
The MSM has poo-poo’d the Ohio voting machine story from the get go. Maybe now they will take it seriously.
Even though I probably already know the answer before I even ask,is ANYONE following up on the crooked tree of corruption that has to be the rest of all of said politco’s mentioned above?
One more thing
911 Truth Convention, THIS WEEKEND in Chicago.
50 percent of NYers polled said they don’t believe the Administration’s story on 911. They lived through it and should know. Garafolo on AAR said: “9/11 was an inside job.”
For more info:
http://911revealingthetruth.org/
Gosh, I hope they don’t hurt Noe’s wrist too hard when they slap it.
Toledo Blade has been doing a stellar job of digging and dogging this story for over a year. What I find so wonderful about these convicitions, isnt just that dirty rotten scoundrals are getting their just deserts but that finally someone is able to “starve the beast”.
With Noe and Abramoff out of the picture, just think of all those dollars the repubicans are NOT getting.
One of the biggest part of the Cunningham, Wilkes and others scandal is how the whole scheme worked by funeling OUR DoD tax dollars from the Appropriations committee to the Defense contractor to their employees to donate to the Repug Party….. MY tax dollars going to fund the Repugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was around 30 front groups created to for this money changing scheme.
i now have Rolling Stone on my RSS reader (Sage in Firefox) - I am so not a rock&roll aficionado but the breaking Ohio news may be fun to read eventually…
There’s always more questions after answers with this administration and each of its radiating scandals.
– When will the Bush/Cheney’04 campaign return the ill-gotten money to the state of Ohio?
– Why did the Ohio Workers’ Comp Bureau have such a disproportionately large sum of money under its control, out of the perview of state auditors? (OH has nearly the same number of residents as neighboring MI, but more than 2X the money in its Workers’ Comp coffers; the Bureau was also exempt from audit by the state.)
– Why were OH turnpikes also exempt from state audit or any other official review? (Ditto with FL state turnpike system — see the parallel?)
That’s just for starters. There’s a LOT more going on in OH than meets the eye; the place is chockful of loose cash, like one big money laundering outfit. And then the connections to DeLay/Abramoff, too, that haven’t yet been researched…one of Blackwell’s buddies in muni finance won a contract related to “rebuilding Iraq” via his contacts with John Colyandro. Yeah, the same John Colyandro indicted for DeLay’s ARMPAC…
Hats off to the Toledo Blade, one of the all-too-rare newspapers in this country that still does hard-hitting journalism; the same paper also reported on the Tiger Force war crimes in Vietnam.
OT/EPU’d but still:
At atrios:
“Lamont: I think that those who got 132,000 troops stuck in the middle of a bloody civil war should be held accountable. I think those that approved ‘Heckuva Job Brownie’ for FEMA in 42 minutes should be held accountable. I think that those believe that the federal government should intervene in the Terri Schiavo case should be held accountable. That’s the last place I want the federal government going, into my hospital room and into my bedroom. I think those who supported Alberto ‘The Geneva Convention is Quaint’ Gonzales should be held accountable.”
Selah.
Busted at 14 — TPM and the Muck have been following this pretty closely all along. So have a few others. And the Toledo Blade ought to win a Pulitzer for their work on this — really top notch stuff.
“Noe Mo!”
Chicago Dyke,
Great link to the Solomon search story! J. Edgar is alive and well, it seems. Sigh.
cbl (12) — THANK YOU!! Great link!! Great news!! Good gravy, I hope they follow the entire ball of yarn all the way…
And RICO!!! Finally, a damned RICO charge!! It’s about time!!
Christy,
The Blade took home a Pulitzer last year for a story on Vietnam atrocities (Team Tiger ?) they rec’d Honorable Mention this year from The Pulitzer Committeee for their Congate coverage.
and that link I posted upthread is RICO Indictment for the State Comp Mgr Gasper
Now ‘dey got Noe, next up be Ney.
For those that don’t read Rolling Stone, give it a try. It usually has some funny commentary on the state of political affairs.
Anytime Matt Taibbi has an article printed it is well worth reading.
Also try Vanity Fair.
You wrote public has been bilked to the tune of over $1 million dollars
Didn’t he lose over $13 million in coins?
Bustedknuckles,
Just because all these people knew each other and dealt with each other, next you’ll be claiming there was a conspiracy!!
thanks, b. i love my blogmates, they rock.
tom in chicago- gmta! ;-)
Regarding the MSM’s hands-off approach to voting fraud: The problem that the MSM has with voting fraud is that, if it turns out to be true, what can they do about it? The media is naturally invested in the theory that our system of government and elections is “working” in some sense of the word. If it turns out that it is being subverted on a significant scale, then the subsequent crisis is far beyond anything the media is prepared to deal with. Even if they have the smoking guns, is it in their interest to expose them, or just hope that things get better? I can see how they can ask themselves this question. It is similar to the old ABSCAM affair in congress. The Justice Dep’t was running a sting operation on congressmen with bribes, etc. It turned out that there were so many congressmen willing to get stung that Justice abandoned the operation because it would have basically toppled the legislative branch. Oops! This is part of the perspective that is important to keep regarding Abramoff, Cunningham, and the like. Was it ever plausible that there was ONE crooked lobbyist and ONE crooked congressman? Of course not!! There were signs of many kinds of Republican voter-suppression and other shenanigans from 2000 through the entire 2004 campaign. Where there’s smoke, fire is a distinct possibility! I remember Peggy Noonan brushing this stuff off with “I heard that there was a Democrat registered as Betty Boop”. If that’s the best defense they can come up with, then you know they’re guilty! If Republican incompetence, cronyism, corruption, warmongering, hate-mongering, racism, gay-bashing, and jingoism haven’t turned you off yet, then maybe some good old-fashioned voting fraud will!
peace,
jim
Peace Vigil this Saturday at Lafayette Park in DC!! Should be fun!
Sholom, he lost $50M !
katymine-
in case you’ve never seen it -
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...../114820/90
Huffington is no longer featuring anything about the RollingStone story. No comments.
As we’ve witnessed in Ohio, the Diebold machines are not to be counted on unless your a Republican running for office. There have been several stories over at Huffington Post about a company that found a severe flaw in the machines that would allow someone to very easily tamper with the machines outcome. Yet no MSM source has talked about it. Wonder why?
Does anyone else fear that the Republicans will use the machines to stay in office this November?
Sholom (28) — think bigger, MUCH BIGGER. Noe had coins in his possession that went missing and a $50 million coin fund under his control, but may have been partially responsible (along with OH-BWC director Gasper) for $215 MILLION in workers’ comp funds being “lost” in a Bermuda investment.
So…how much does it cost to rig an election in Ohio, anyhow?
Oops- never mind- they just moved the stone story. My bad.
The Toledo Blade also mentioned $215 million in losses from a hedge fund. These guys were not ony thieves they were stupid.
Hugh,
I’m with you ! and I wish all these lunatics in the fever swamp would stop photoshopping Dear Leader in pics with all these felons !
Can I just flat out admit this story is very cheering to me? I am loving it.
Fucker belongs in jail for a long, long time.
Look at this link: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/.....rintpicart
Ney charging into battle on meth, in a jumpsuit. Course it was a mock meth lab, in Quantico, and meanwhile programs are being cut here because this state is so damn corrupt.
Sigh.
No wonder the GOP was anxious to push the Harry Reid non-story all week….between Savafian and Noe the entire Republican party looks to be involved in the Culture of Corruption
‘Thanx, Rush.’
“Tell us all your real name, will ya? And tell us where you really live…Tell us who you really are, Jack…give us your real name.
And, also… you might want to tell us when you’re gonna be in Las Vegas - that’s coming up soon isn’t it?”
Nothing quite like free advertising, is there?
;>)
Tom - Chicago
Why don’t you write an article and submit it to Jane and Christy. If they like it, I’m sure they’ll post it.
Have you heard of the Federal False Claims Act?
It’s my understanding that Ohio doesn’t have a state version. If you think there is solid evidence of fraud, why has no one filed?
well I bet “W” doesn’t know
“NOE” either, hmmmm?
Doesn’t know:
NOE
JACK
A**hole. May we be saved by the impending indictment of the rat: ROVE.
Without PJF and team, this country would be ‘lost’ … led astray by the ‘holier than thou Administration/Cabinet/Congress’ and the lapdog repugnant media.
Nuf said.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....nted=print
NYtimes, June 1, 2006
89 Guantanamo Detainees on Hunger Strike
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, Filed at 1:33 p.m. ET
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — More Guantanamo Bay detainees protesting their indefinite confinement joined a hunger strike, raising the number of those refusing food to 89 from 75, the U.S. military said Thursday. Six of the hunger strikers at the isolated U.S. naval base in southeast Cuba were being force-fed, said Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand.
Why do all the low-lifes move to Florida? We have enough home-grown ones to meet our needs, we don’t need the likes of Noe clogging up the low-life arteries down here.
Sigh….hopefully, he’s head for a nice prison cell in some other state soon.
Cute little explainer in the Columbus Dispatch on Noe, too, from back in February this year.
Money quote:
Sing it, bay-bee. Amen.
Rayne 36,
You ask how much it costs to rig an election in Ohio. I don’t think it’s a matter of money, or at least not much. My sense is it’s more a matter of subtle hints and smears. At least in SE Ohio, that is how I see it.
Hey what’s the deal with this story about AP reporter Solomon’s files being looked at one month BEFORE 9/11?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/1/14124/06171
He’s the guy who’s been the hitman for the GOP at the AP.
Jim Preston @ 31 –
I appreciate your description of how huge the scandal could be (or is), but I can’t believe the MSM would throw up its hands in the face of it and back off. It’s not up to them to “fix,” anyway. It’s up to them to reveal.
Mind you, I don’t have an alternate theory. Every day I ask myself or my wife or my invisible friend, “What is more worth covering than this? What is more worth the NY Times or WaPo’s energies than this blatant fraud at the most fundamental level of our ‘democracy’?” None of us has an answer.
I still ask it. I just don’t agree that they see the scale of the crime and are quietly backing off because it’s too gigantic.
The next step needs to be going after Bob Taft for his involvement in this. He has said he had no knowledge but Noe was reported to have proof Taft did in fact have knowledge of what was going on. The Republicans here in the Buckeye state are really going to struggle this year and it is about time.
I have the Blade bookmarked to keep track of the fabulously expanding Noe scandal.
Also Blackwell is the most corrupt SoS in America. And that’s saying something. He stole Ohio for Bush and may be going down finally-per Bradblog.
Anyhow, “It’s getting hot in here”
And here I always thought we (FL) had the most corrupt SoS in America. Oh well, Ohio doesn’t get to call theirs “Alligator Bag,” so we still got THAT going for us.
Here’s an idea goopers- the Blackwell/Harris ticket for 08. Those to were born to run together!
Those of you in Ohio–What’s the latest on DeWine? Is he making progress or sinking in the gooper pit of muck?
Just say Noe to Ney!
http://www.zackspace.org/
Go Space!
Scott Silverman, Chairman of the Board of VeriChip Corporation, has proposed implanting the company’s RFID tracking tags in immigrant and guest workers. He made the statement on national television earlier this week.
Silverman was being interviewed on “Fox & Friends.” Responding to the Bush administration’s call to know “who is in our country and why they are here,” he proposed using VeriChip RFID implants to register workers at the border, and then verify their identities in the workplace. He added, “We have talked to many people in Washington about using it….”
(Drudge)
Matt’s right on top of a very “sensible” solution to the immigration problem.
Mr Wonderful @49 -
My theory, FWIW, is that Ohio (like so much of the rest of the nation) is viewed from NY and DC as “out there somewhere.” If it had been a NY/DC area case, or one of the neighboring suburbs (like MA, PA, MD, or VA), then maybe it makes the news.
For TV, the words “Nothing to see here” are almost literally true. Unless you’ve got a good video shot, there’s almost always no story. Not always, thank God, but it’s a rule of thumb to go by in most cases.
What’ve we got here? Old white guys, and missing coins. Just doesn’t stack up against the fires, car chases, suspicious packages being examined, and (drumroll, please) the missing white women.
And as Uncle Walter used to say, “That’s the way it is . . .” Of course, he didn’t cry after he said it.
No major media outlet is going to break a story about vote fraud in Ohio unless they really have the goods- it’s way too explosive. Don’t think they’re actively looking for any “goods” either.
rw at 56 — wow, now you can find your lost pet and your lost illegal immigrant housekeeper, all in one fell swoop. (Good lord, do these people even THINK about how their crack-brained ideas sound?)
what if we also implant RFID chips in white, blond females too? they seem to go missing more often than socks in a laundry room!
don’t know about y’all, but I’ve ordered one of these
www.popcorn.com.au/sitelocal/truck.jpg
Updated statements from both Brad and Rolling Stone at
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002894.htm
Blackwell figures most prominently, of course.
Redd–Unbelievable isn’t it- unbridled capitalism at work I guess. So now applicants for guest worker status will get a free chip installed along with their brown card.
cbl at 61 — I am so saving that picture in the hopes that I will be able to use it soon. hehehehehe
Yeah, #ilson.
Implant chips in all white women!! That’s the ticket.
*ilson46201 #59,
Now THAT was funny!
Just got another “dial a lie” computer phone call from the Bilbray campaign claiming that Busby is lyin to smear Bilbray and to cover up her “liberal” past. Those who have been following the race will find this claim particularly amusing- Francine is a converted GOOPER!
It will all be over soon.
Off Topic: Doughy Pantload Alert
My local paper today printed a column by Jonah Goldberg that implies Al Gore lied about spending time in Cannes during the summer when he was 15. Goldberg says that according to a biography, “the former vice president’s 15th summer was spent working on the family farm.” Goldberg is too stupid to understand that the summer “when I was 15″ (Gore)is not the same as Gore’s “15th summer,” (when Gore was 14), or to recognize that Gore could have done both in the same summer.
I know this was discussed on FDL within the past week or so but haven’t been able to locate that post. According to The American Prospect (http://www.prospect.org/horsesmouth/2006/05/post_32.html#002542), a spokesman for Gore has verified that he spent one week studying French in Cannes the summer he was 15, and also worked on the family farm that summer. Someone like Goldberg could argue that “the summer I was 15″ is an exaggeration of the one week Gore’s spokesman said he spent in Cannes.
Question: is it worthwhile writing to my local paper and smacking down Goldberg for the “when I was 15″/”15th summer” mixup, or is it better to leave the issue alone and not give further publicity to Goldberg’s implication that Gore lied?
I was horrified to see his column in my local paper; I think this might be the first time it has run. I would love to convince the newspaper that Goldberg is untrustworthy and that they shouldn’t run his column. But I don’t want to appear to be splitting hairs and have someone come back with the “one week doesn’t equal ‘for the summer’” argument as another Gore exaggeration.
Does anyone have any advice on this? Or are there better issues to attack Goldberg on?
Btw, Where ARE Barb and Jenny?
Agree- Wilson gets the snark of the day award.
Socks in a laundry room indeed!
Neuro 68;
But Al’s a LIAR dontcha know? Also he sighs too much. That’s why we need incompetence in the White House instead.
Hmmmm . . . Who would fall under the category of “friends” in Noe’s “spare my family and friends” line?
I suppose “spare my f&f” sounds better to some folks than “Yeah, I was caught dead-to-rights, and there’s no way I can wiggle out of it,” but when he stands before the judge that f&f stuff just isn’t going to cut it.
It does, however, follow the long tradition of Dubya’s “artful wording” as Tony Snow put it. Froomkin’s back from his vacation/birthday celebration, and he really goes after Dubya and the press. His headline: “Bush’s Lie,” about lying to the press about the SecTreas resignation. Dan spends as much time asking why the press won’t call it a lie as he does wondering why Dubya didn’t just duck the question.
See the whole thing at http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00879.html
Go Dan!
Saw Goldberg’s latest in the LA Times this morning- ignored it as always. Can’t think of any reason to spend the time reading that nit wit or responding to his silliness. Can’t believe that the LA Times PAYS him for that crap.
neurophius: if you were the son of Lucianne Goldberg, wouldn’t you too be obsessing about all the other kids having a decent and good childhood? have pity on poor Jonah - not all child abuse is physical!
and was his Mom prescient or what : naming her pudgy child something always associated with whales? poor Jonah!
CNN reporting the BIG stories- FLASH- Batwoman is a lesbian! Yep- they’re really running with that one!
John Casper = I second.
neurophius — discouraging any publication from publishing the distorted stylings of Jonah Goldberg is NEVER a waste of time.
Bobby Kennedy JR’s piece up now.
http://www.rollingstone.com/ne.....ion_stolen
and Mary Cheney is sending Catwoman into the MidEast to clean-up the evil-doers? Catwoman versus Khameni ?
“Jonah Goldberg that implies Al Gore lied about spending time in Cannes during the summer when he was 15.
What next? Maybe Goldberg will unearth evidence that Gore stole a watermelon when he was 11, or broke a neighbor’s window when he was 9. Goldberg is pathetic. And that’s his only positive trait!
Bustednuckles:
Thanks for the link.
Thanks, bustedknuckles @ 12:08. Can’t help but notice that the Rolling Stone servers seem to be loading a bit slowly. ;-)
A cute diversion
http://www.peacecandy.com/gwbush/dishonestdubya/
Looks like someone took Ohio’s Motto to heart: Ohio - The Heart of It All
I guess “Republican Party Corruption” was too long and “it” had to suffice.
oh my– such a post wingnut Carol Platt Liebau has up at HuffPo lecturing libruls on Haditha. She is taking quite a spanking for it, too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....21995.html
I’m halfway thru the first of four pages of the Kennedy piece
D
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Jeebus, Ive only read 1/2 of the first page and I’m going to go find the biggest mother fucking hammer I own.Time for a little stress release.
Just dropping in with a quick observation…. I find it odd that Noe has pleaded gulty to the federal offenses before the state court trial — this means that his pending state crime can be used in calculating his non-biding (wink wink) sentencing guidelines AND his federal guilty verdicts can surely be used 1)If he testified at his own trial in Ohio and 2) if he is found guilty to aggravate his sentence — heck, he might be in “three strikes” territory as a felon recidivist.
So, Immanantize smells a State deal.
No Felon Left Behind.
-GSD
omg, if that’s *ilson’s response, it must be juicy as hell - was saving it as a reward once the chores were done - but heck, they can walk on dusty floors for one more day !
fyi- Ohio papers - nothing in Cleveland or Cinci papers on this morning’s RICO Indictment - good ol Columbus Dispatch at least has the RICO story front paged
but so far, nothing about the RS article
The photo will be used as proof positive that Dumbya never met the guy; never even heard of him.
Peterr - the long tradition of Dubya’s “artful wording”
If only we could tape it to the refrigerator.
Bustedknuckles — I recommend chain saw therapy! Don’t you have a tree that needs to come down? Perhaps the neighbors have an extra one you could bring down? I find it to be tres theraputic…
But hammering is good, too.
neurophius (68) — I’d be sorely tempted to ask Jonah why all the interest in a single week in Gore’s early adolescence when the entire early adulthood of George W. Bush is so much more entertaining and open to conjecture. Surely the history of the man currently occupying the White House is of far more importance to the American public, yes?
Or is Jonah doing the advance work on the next President of the United States and this is the best he could find in the way of gossip?
The Rolling Stone article by Robert Kennedy, Jr. on election fraud is up. Here’s the print-friendly version:
http://www.rollingstone.com/ne.....olen/print
Hmm…
Bush and Kenneth Lay
Bush and Tom Delay
Bush and Tom Noe
Bush and David Safavian
Bush and Claude Allen
Bush and Lewis Libby
Bush and Duke Cunningham
Bush and Jack Abramoff
It is all merely a coincidence, there is no collusion, racketeering or culture of corruption in the Republican Party whatsoever.
-GSD
Can’t believe that the prosecution is recommending a very light 2 1/2 year sentence for this jerk. Some poor black kid who holds up an inner city convenience store would get 10-15 in the slammer.
Immanentize - I asked my Dad (who has 45 years in the game of crim law), about whether a state defendant’s own federal court allocution could be used against him whether or not he took the stand, and, assuming that he got the part about the person not taking the stand in the state case. He thought yes. He said the case is Crawford v. Washington, which came down probably sometime in 2003, which dealt with allocutions/statements by a co-defendent being used against another defendent where the co defendent wouldn’t testify, or something like that (that hearsay thing).
neurophius: Attack!!!
Sorta on topic:
Great radio show here in Salt Lake from KUER’s RadioWest on Diebold voting machines here in Utah. Great discussion centering on the public’s trust in these machines.
http://www.publicbroadcasting......_ID=922256
OfT: Francine Busby is running an ad that splits the Minutemen supporters from her GOP opponent on Tuesday.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com.....ll_im.html
cbl (90) — no surprise there about the lack of coverage Cleveland and Cincy papers. Have heard so many complaints about the bias there.
I have concerns about this news, though, as happy as we are to finally put some sunshine to this mess; there were people in OH who saw things who’ve been intimidated and are terrified to say anything about it. They are afraid for their lives. The kind of money we are discussing in this thread is more than enough to buy the permanent kind of shut-your-mouth treatment.
There is more than one reason we didn’t get the whole story about Ohio, besides the fact the press is pWN3d.
There are no words to adequately describe my pounding heart, hot tears and fury after reading that article! How appropriate it appears on this particular thread.
Gonna mow the lawn and thank my lucky stars for Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Over at TP they have Nutso Bolton cheering on a “unilateral” strike on Iran….
This is going to happen. These lunatics want it to happen….
-GSD
Why does Rolling Stone hate America?
Tom Noe and the Ohio GOP have done a heckuva job keeping it safe from Democrat terrorizers, and liberating all those pension fund dollars wasted on working folks. Don’t you know that the haves and have mores need new yachts?
Besides — the Clenis has an office in HARLEM, while the Clenis Consort is an alleged Senator in Washington. Why don’t you talk about real news like that, and who the Clenis is seeing in his HARLEM office?
And why hasn’t Rupert Murdoch bought the Toledo Blade, so they can report the good news from Iraq? Not a single Fox News reporter has been blown up this week, and Dear Leader’s minions are doing a heckuva job over there.
for me, the most convincing info in the Ohio story is where the liberal Black woman judge beat Kerry in votes in white rural areas. That’s impossible!
I’ve been involved in the nitty-gritty of local elections for over 20 years and know how to read comparative results of precincts. I’ve even gerrymandered (legally) some election districts. There definitely was finagling (stealing) of votes going on in Ohio, for sure. No doubt!
Ken Blackwell needs to recall some Commandments or another where it says something about “Thou shalt not bear false witness” and “Thou shalt not steal”
Ohio elections: elderly Republicans that I personally know voted Democratic for the first time ever in 2004. We was robbed.
In the 2005 Ohio elections, several good government referenda that were slated to pass by huge margins….lost by huge margins. The Columbus Dispatch poll was wrong for only the second time in history, after 2004.
Oh, and among the referenda was one that forbids recounting. Nice.
Ohio was the tipping point, we lost the Presidency. Seeing these folks brought down in Columbus will be JUSTICE.
MrWonderful@49 - Time may tell how deep Republican voter fraud has been over the last 6 years, and whether or not it is ever deemed important enough for people or the media to do something about it. It took dead white college kids in Mississippi last time to move the football, along with a lot of other things, and people didn’t have Brad and Angelina to distract them back then, either. It would seem to me that the time is now for groups to get organized for very serious exit polling, poll-watching, etc. around the mid-terms. The thing is, that this stuff needs to be done in a professional manner. Running around at the last minute screaming about how the lines are too long won’t work, I can guarantee you that. Holding up 5 independent exit polls that each agree with each other and disagree with the recorded results might get us somewhere. The crazy part is that the Republicans approach voter suppression/fraud with a multi-pronged attack. First they keep people from registering and purge the voter rolls. Then they make it hard for them to vote. Then they call Diebold. Then they fool around with recounts, provisional ballots, etc. This thin, broad type of manipulation has many advantages. One is that each particular case can be argued for on one misguided principle or another, such as “The Democrats used to do that.” Another is that it is difficult to show that any particular one of the techniques “changed” the outcome, when it might definitely be true that they cumulatively changed the outcome. The fact is that there is one political party that has an institutional committment to voting fraud, and it is the Republican Party.
peace,
jim
Forbids recounting: I mean because it failed, now recounting is severely restricted.
If the guy raised funds for over half of the current, sitting state S. Ct., I almost hope there is a plea. What a nightmare to send something like that up - however it came out.
I don’t know this person, they have never been to my white house!
who is this person anyway? pioneer? that is out west, huh?
At some point very soon it will be impossible for the American public to deny the fact that their president is in fact nothing more than a career criminal, and that they have been royally “had.” The republicans are running in November on the meme that “If the house or senate changes hands, they’ll impeach him.” Damn straight we will. We’re not giving this thief any more time to clean out our house than we have to.
I’m not even halfway through the Rolling Stone article, and I am livid. The GOP has reduced us to being a nation that may need UN election monitoring in order to safeguard the process. That’s just heartbreaking and pathetic.
Voting fraud: you will see it AGAIN in 2006 and if nothing changes, the Presidency will be stolen again in 2008.
Anybody want toast?