Fitzo de Mayo !

You speak of organized crime…I see an awesomely organized underwear drawer. It shames us all. Fitz?

Fitzee de Mai !

Fitz, we’re waiting…

I’m embarrassed to say that I called a bra once….

Sorry to be so pragmatic and geeky, but good grief that’s a lot of data they want. I wonder how much money European ISPs and long-haul providers are going to have to spend to fulfill this mandate.

My practice was to keep a minimum of two weeks worth of logs for my networks, just in case I had to check on someone who was trying to break in or harass us. That was a while ago, of course, but even now I wouldn’t want to keep more than a couple of months’ worth in most cases. From a network admin’s perspective, that’s ancient history.

ooops, as I write this, I am downloading via Bittorrent a French CD of the Beethoven & Mendelsohn Violin Concerti…

5 - was it a wireless call?

OT - op99 - if you’re still looking for a YKOS roomate, I may have a roomate for you - christina underscore siun at mac dot com

VJB 2 — and thus we know it is not MY underwear drawer.

*ilson46201 -

Back to your 1:36 post in the prior thread - I agree: something is going on, all right. I have some ideas, but it may be premature to speculate.

FitzGarment!

8 - win.

Is that Scooter Libby’s underwear drawer?

So, Disney wants all that data? I wonder what for.
You know, everybody going into Disney World gets fingerprinted or something. It’s a little weird. Everybody has to stick their fingers into a little gizmo that records…something.

Jane 10

I’m relieved - I was worried about OCD for a bit…

;)

Totally OT, but I got a solicitation letter from Al Gore (DCCC) that mentioned “Rubber Stamp Republicans” and thought of FDL and how you are really impacting the national dialogue. (Maybe Al received one of the stamps?)

Please don’t stop speaking truth to power!!

Jane, you wear underwear?

*ilson46201 #7

And when Interpol knocks on your door 5 years from now, courtesy of our newly improved relations with the Quai d’Orsay, I’ll bet you’ll have forgotten this little indiscretion, ne-c’est pas?

Cyberspace, however, never forgets.

kirk murphy #8

was it a wireless call?

lol !

I’m okay with it as long as we get access to the private records of music and film industry executives so that we can refer to them in our antitrust lawsuits.

Hey, why not have some Democrats put forward a bill that prevents a President from pardoning people in his own administration for malfeasence under his watch or at his behest?

That would be a real fun one to debate….It would go down but the Republicans would look even more like cover-uppers.

-GSD

And so many Democrats want to move us towards a European model, with their cameras on every corner, laws dictating what people are allowed to say and 60%+ tax rates… Now this. Only marginally better than the fascist model that George Bush wants. It’s becoming very shitty to be an American, seems like we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t.

Did Hayden Break The Law?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....12374/1235

Reports suggest that it may have been Hayden who unilaterally implemented the extrajudicial spying program, before executive authorization.

Now, we learn that Hayden was the architect of a much broader program, one that has cataloged billions of calls made by innocent Americans.

While Hayden’s supporters shrug off this massive data collection, they ignore a critical question: did Hayden break the law? And if so, how can they overlook that and vote for his confirmation?

The fact is that, depending on the exact contours of the program, this program may have already been banned by Congress. And if so, Hayden’s resurrection of that program should cast the death blow to any nomination.

Frank Rich kicks it up a notch http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0513.html

Call it the Government Accountability Act. Or the George Washington Anti-Power Abuse and Corruption Act?

kirk 15 — Even Dubya himself might give up on the whole idea of panty sniffing were he to encounter the disorderly state of my underwear drawer, not to worry.

pach 17 — actually no.

With apologies to Everett Dirksen - ‘A bit here, a byte there, pretty soon you’re talking about some real terrabytes.’

Any idea what our newly installed Conservative to the north Mr. Harper is up to? I would expect a real cozy arrangement among NATO members.

(May 13, 2006 — 04:38 PM EST // link)

Damning.

From Isikoff …

The role of Vice President Dick Cheney in the criminal case stemming from the outing of White House critic Joseph Wilson’s CIA wife is likely to get fresh attention as a result of newly disclosed notes showing that Cheney personally asked whether Wilson had been sent by his wife on a “junket” to Africa.

Cheney’s notes, written on the margins of a July 6, 2003 New York Times op-ed column by former ambassador Joseph Wilson, were included as part of a filing Friday night by prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in the perjury and obstruction case against ex-Cheney chief of staff I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby.

The notes, Fitzgerald said in his filing, show that Cheney and Libby were “acutely focused” on the Wilson column and on rebutting his criticisms of the White House’s handling of pre-Iraq war intelligence.

…

In the margins of the op-ed, Cheney jotted out a series of questions that seemed to challenge many of Wilson’s assertions as well as the legitimacy of his CIA sponsored trip to Africa: “Have they done this sort of thing before? Send an Amb. [sic] to answer a question? Do we ordinarily send people out pro bono to work for us? Or did his wife send him on a junket?”

Puts Cheney right in the center of it. No doubt, directing the whole effort, which many of us have long suspected. Right there down to the ridiculousness of his ‘wife send[ing] him on a junket’. Did he come up with it? Was he the first one to slip that slop into the rightwing media stream?
– Josh Marshall

It’s a good sign when dolts like Isikoff start getting the message:

The notes—apparently obtained as a result of a grand jury subpoena—would appear to make Cheney an even more central witness than had been previously thought in the criminal probe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12...../newsweek/

I have almost 3000 music miles, and probably 200 video files.

I am all about privacy.

And free file sharing.

Jane–Whew–was afraid that was your drawer- that’s a neat freak!

anybody slightly conversant with Plamegate could see Fitzy has long had Cheney in his sights. This exposure of Dick Cheney his own bad self annotating in his own handwriting the damning NYTimes OpEd by Amb. Wilson openly and publically puts forth his participation. Fitzy has kicked it up a notch too!

Bush and Lon Cheney have lost Mel Gibson and Michael “Sniffacock” Isakoff.

Bad week for these mooks.

OT. Americablog has some updated poll results and they are far stretch from the Washed-Pooh poll…lots of interesting numbers.

The meme is becoming reality.

Democrats are for the average folks and are concerned about civil liberties.

Republicans are for the businesses and are pushing their power-grab too far.

-GSD

BarbaraB says:
May 13th, 2006 at 2:06 pm (prior thread)

I think I goofed in some comments I made the other day concerning the lawsuit Paula Jones filed against Bill Clinton; you must have found, as I did after I posted my comments, that it was not appealed to the United States Supreme COurt.

Now let’s return to discussing the OLC’s 1973 opinion written by Robert Bork. Is it available online? I think it might prove helpful to see his line of reasoning, as he may have had no precedents to cite.

Jane 26

I’m seeing Dubya standing like a deer in the headlights, looking for your invisible undies,
Sniffus interreptus -

probably drive his last few neurons around the bend…

When you think about it, file sharing is a kind of terrorism.

/bushco talking point

Boy, those Wilsons know how to pick the plum junkets. Instead of golfing in Scotland, Wilson chose a “junket” to landlocked African nation that is one of the poorest places on the face of the planet.

-GSD

And most terrorists wear some kind of underwear. Think about it.

if you are planning a junket to Niger, this is where you stay http://www.grandhotelniger.com/english/home.php

just don’t ask for yellowcake for desert at the restaurant !

My, we are getting personal here. Back on topic–all this Nosey Bitch TIA stuff is to prevent another 9/11. Didn’t I read somewhere where they had authorized recordings captured with warrants foreshadowing 9/11?

It isn’t lack of information that could have prevented 9/11 but a lack of intelligence from the leadership.

Jane- not wearing underwear gives aid and comfort to the terrists.

When I was in college I lived in an old duplex where my next door neighbor was this libertarian nutjob named Justin. Despite our many differences of opinion, we became friends by brewing beer together. We collaborated on many great batches of beer and even had a hop garden out back.

All of his beer brewing equipment, food grade buckets, carboy fermenters, etc. were plastered with stickers with such slogans as “Stop Overgoverning!” “The Government is listening!” “Watch out for Big Brother” “I love my country, but fear my government” I seem to forget some of the more creative ones.
This was nearly 15 years ago and I thought he was just paranoid. Little did I know he was just ahead of the curve! Interestingly, I do seem to recall that he feared Democratic leaders more than Republican ones. This fear was mainly based on 2nd Amendment concerns.

Last I heard of Justin, he and his wife were home schooling their kids somewhere off the grid in Montana. I wonder if it is too late to follow Justin’s lead?

Sharkbabe, have you been checking under burkhas again ?

siun check yer email. :)

NYT story up now that Cheney and Hayden ignored internal legal opinions in favor of, erm, just saying it’s legal ’cause it should be:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05.....mp;emc=rss

Steve Gilliard’s advice to Scooter — sit down with Fitz, and take what you can get:

http://stevegilliard.blogspot......aster.html

Bush is psychologically incapable of both flexibility and mercy. Anyone who thinks Bush is going to pardon people need to talk to Katharine Harris. Despite placing her name and reputation on the line, the Bushes now want her to go away. Who else is going to jump into a losing race, after all, Bush hatred is exploding, and take a bath. Why not repay Harris’s loyalty with support?

That is a grim indicator for Rove and Libby.They don’t care what you have on them, they’re the Bush family. They are not going to be rescued, for if they aren’t loyal to Harris, who will they be loyal to?

GSD 33 “Michael “Sniffacock†Isakoff” heh.

Just wait till the right finds out about snooping of data for gun purchases,gun permits and hunting licenses.Gun shops must keep some records of inventory and sales.Tax records of gun purchases.

And I hope they tapped into the data information of the NRA and people with large collection of guns

Wouldn’t the NSA want to match the information they got data mining from the phone companies and cross match to gun owner information?

And most terrorists wear some kind of underwear. Think about it.

True, but they wear it on their heads so that doesn’t really count.

Everywhere you sniff in the rank stench that has become this administration- you smell Cheney’s flabby, old, hairless, stinky asshole.

#45

That’s just an adaption of the defense known as “Yo Mama!”

Incoming Fitz grenade! Fitz’s latest filing is up at newsweek.com. This one is about his intention to use a copy of Joe Wilson’s famous op-ed piece at trial. Sounds like no big deal, until you read the fine print: The copy Fitz will be offering has Dick Cheney’s handwritten notes in the margin, which clearly mention Joe Wilson’s wife. Oops.

emptywheel’s most current post about Team Fitz (and please forgive me if this has already been mentioned): http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c......html#more

D. Mason,

Wrong kinda talk for this site.

when a gun is bought, a background check is required but the data is supposed to be destroyed promptly and nothing retained by the Feds.
Dear NRA member: are you sure it is destroyed or do you want to help the IslamoFascists by demanding your constitutional rights? your choice!

ahem, it’s not just the phone calls - tons of bytes tearin’ through the phone-lines allatime - ATM transactions, credit-card approvals, emails, datafiles - now why wouldn’t the NSA want this stuff in their db as well? Perhaps they’re writing a comprehensive history of digital civilization?

*ilson 43 - (blushing, kicking dirt)

rwcole 50 - incredibly perfectly succinctly disgustingly beautifully put.

I guess everybody screaming Uereka! over the Cheney anotized newscopy didn’t read the two previous posts at FDL by CHS.

rwcole-
I read somewhere that Cheney is a close talker with really stinky breath.

J. Leopold is now reporting that Rove has been indicted.

rwcole,

thanks for making dieting so much easier this afternoon…

I’ve been loath to jump in with “the wheels are coming off the cart”-type rhetoric, but I’m getting a little giddy after hearing Isikoff’s stuff on the Cheney notes.

And next week, more from Tice? And oops, I almost forgot — Rove???

Am I being moderated??? I can see my #58 comment. But it says waiting in moderation. Can everybody else see it?

All standard caveats apply. That said …

New Leopold: Rove Already Indicted!

BarbaraB, thanks for your comments on the earlier thread.

froggermarch #45

So…Hayden was the good guy, is that what the Times is selling here? Oh, and then they persuaded him, so he jumped right on it. And this news comes out in detail just as he’s about to begin his confirmation hearings. But, but…if that’s the real scoop, how come the smell of rat wafting from this article is so strong?

Jason Leopold is either onto something or dead wrong, but he now says Rove WAS indicted on Friday for perjury and obstruction of justice. See:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

If this case would ever reach a courtroom- Cheney would be a key witness. He would sit in front of the jury for perhaps a whole day- explaining why he released classified information, why he instructed scoots to flame Plame. Explaining his legal theories of the presidency- a guy with a 12% JAR- and falling.

If anyone thinks that GW Clusterfuck will EVER allow this spectacle to occur- think again.

Either this thing never gets to trial- or Cheney crawls up inside his own asshole and dies between now and then.

Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators

By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

Saturday 13 May 2006

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

OT: From Murtha today: “Most likely, there will be a “tidal wave” that propels Democrats into the majority, said Murtha. He predicts Democrats will gain 40-50 seats - well more than the 15 needed for the party to gain control.”

I wish I was that confident.

Jeralyn at Talkleft buys into the newest J*s*n L**p*ld story http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014833.html

ROVE IS INDICTED !!!

but consider the source! no partying yet

afternoon all,
some excellent historical info on TIA:

…”The TIA program is a project that would create a working model for a computerized profile of the intimate details of a citizen’s private life. Neoconservative New York Times columnist William Safire notes the potential of the TIA program as follows:
“Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine subscription you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit and e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade you receive, every bank deposit you make, every trip you book and every event you attend — all these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense Department describes as “a virtual, centralized grand database.”

Here is how John Markoff of the New York Times describes the capability of the TIA program:

“…it will provide intelligence analysts and law enforcement officials with instant access to information from Internet mail and calling records to credit card and banking transactions and travel documents, without a search warrant. Historically, military and intelligence agencies have not been permitted to spy on Americans without extraordinary legal authorization. But Admiral Poindexter, the former national security adviser in the Reagan administration, has argued that the government needs broad new powers to process, store and mine billions of minute details of electronic life in the United States. Admiral Poindexter, who has described the plan in public documents and speeches but declined to be interviewed, has said that the government needs to ‘break down the stovepipes’ that separate commercial and government databases, allowing teams of intelligence agency analysts to hunt for hidden patterns of activity with powerful computers.”

http://www.geocities.com/total.....awareness/

“Hey Marek — you and anyone else who want to criticize our decisions on this front are cordially invited to fuck right off. Do you do anything to support this site? Ever hit the PayPal button before? Do you think it just “happens?â€

Sure, Jane, no problem. I just did.

I do enjoy your blog after all. What I didn’t realize, apparently, is that only members of the Jane Hamsher Perpetual Adoration Society are allowed to post here. Could it be — sorry for getting a bit personal here — that you are not as different from lovely Ms Malkin as you would like to think?

Oops, critizing again, sorry.

Cheers,

Marek

I see Cheney needing to go to some foreign country to live because his health requires certain doctors who works in that country. At least, that would be the excuse.

According to truthout’s Jason Leopold, Rove has now been indicted:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

This is not last night’s story, this is new, dated today:

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.

During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.”>

Still not confirmed by any major media, but fwiw…

I’ll go out on a limb here and predict that Elmer F. “Chucky” Hayden is toast.

Excuse me: perjury and lying to investigators; obstruction of justice yet to be determined.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12...../newsweek/

^^ Newsweek poll shows 53% say Bush spying goes too far.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

^^ Leopold saying Rove is already indicted… Take it for what it is worth.

Okay, try this again another way. I read that Fitz met with Luskin quietly on friday and served him with a indictment for Rove which will be released to the press sometime next week. Is there anyway to find out if this is true?

um. Just checking.

OT: with 4 pitbulls in my house, I recently realized my most frequently uttered phrase is “Watch the fucking tail !” Happy dogs can knock so many things over…

Wow - Jeralyn’s got my little heart

SNOOPYDANCIN!

Read the Truthout piece. Is Redd around? Would like to know if it’s plausible.

The piece says that Fitz served Rove with an indictment- so that would mean that the indictment was handed down earlier- like wednesday? So is there public record of it? Was it sealed? If sealed, what would be the justification for sealing it?- etc.

I am trying to de-lurk but am having troubling posting….

I am choosing to beleive this. Matthews and all. ANd maybe Bush’s speech….I am really dreaming here…Cheney???

SP,CPA #34 — You didn’t goof. Clinton v. Jones was the Supreme Court case that held that a sitting President is not immune to civil suit for “private” conduct predating his election as President. You goofed very slightly (a trvial goof, really) in attributing the DOJ/OLC opinion to Bork. As Solicitor General, Bork adopted the OLC opinion in an amicus brief filed with respect to Agnew’s indictment.

If you have access to Westlaw, the Clinton/OLC memo is available at 2000WL33711291. It’s dated Oct. 16, 2000. I haven’t tried Google or the DOJ website, but it’s a public document so it should be out there.

If you use CNN’s FindLaw, which is free, you can read Nixon v. Fitzgerald. It was a 5-4 case (4-1-4 if you count Burger’s concurrence as resting on different grounds) and the opinions have a lot of information on the history of the debate over the role of the impeachment clause, going back to the Framers and the ratifiers. I don’t think the question is nearly as settled as I did before my research, so I really thank you for raising the question. However, I don’t think either the 1973 OLC opinion or the Borkian adoption can fairly be attributed to partisanship. Justice Story, back in 1833, and a whole bunch of folks even earlier, weren’t thinking about either Tricky Dick or Bubba when they opined that a sitting President could not be prosecuted while in office, but only after impeachment and removal.

FWIW, the prosecutors in Jaworski’s office were divided on the issue, and Jaworski ultimately decided to make Nixon an unindicted coconspirator rather than litigate it. Of course, he could rely on contemporaneous Congressional investigating/oversight committees who were actually doing their jobs. Where is Sam Ervin now that we really need him?

I am going to print out the pdf of the Cheney marginalia and market it as toilet paper.

123beck, you’re comin in loud & clear at 85

D. Mason @#65

That was just a little encouragement not to engage in blatant racism. FDL has a track record of discouraging such behavior. Directing foul language at me for doing so is a mistake. I don’t recommend it or tolerate rude behavior.

Sharkbabe

Jeralyn’s a peach!

I am sure the NYTimes and the WaPo are rattling all the W.H. cages as we speak, poking around about Rove. Breaking that news would be quite a coup!

Here’s a good laugh.

GWOT Gun Registration Program

I’m confused, or The New York Times is confused, or Dick Cheney is confused. The NYT article linked at froggermarch 45 above says:

“For the first time since 1978, when the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was passed and began requiring court approval for all eavesdropping on United States soil”

and

“Mr. Cheney traced his views to his service as chief of staff to President Gerald Ford in the 1970’s, when post-Watergate reforms, which included the FISA law, ’served to erode the authority I think the president needs to be effective, especially in a national security area.’”

So FISA became law in 1978. And Cheney’s executive power theory evolved, as a result of FISA and other reforms, while he was chief of staff to President Ford?

Ford’s presidency ended in January 1977.

Jason Leopold is pretty convincing that Karl Rove has been indicted…..anyone else read the article??

Jason Leopold reports that on Friday, May 12, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of themeeting said Saturday morning.

I’m not clear when Fitz and Rove had the meeting. Was it Friday?

If Truthout.org breaking news holds up : Patrick Fitzgerald just gave me and a lot of Mother’s I know the best Mother’s Day Present!!

Big fat honkin mid-thread FITZ!

rwcole says: “Was it sealed? If sealed, what would be the justification for sealing it?”
May 13th, 2006 at 3:02 pm

One possibility to consider: have others been charged? Yes, there are other possible reasons for sealing the indictment. Christy and the other lawyers posting here - please elucidate.

I think Cheney is banking on an obscure interpretation of the law. That’s if you were born before 1978, when FISA was enacted, you don’t have to follow that law.

I just want to say that the news was “news” when I first posted. I wouldn’t knowingly clog up a thread with already posted off-topic stuff.

[/snit]

neurophius, Cheney sipped from the poisoned chalice of utmost power and was upset when drinking restrictions were placed later on…

I like the fact that Fitz has Cheney’s NYT with notes in the margins….That’s detail work . Appearently they they didn’t destroy all the evidence. That sound you here is Nixon rotating in his grave, yelling “Burn the Tapes.”

Why is everybody so testy? I’m not testy, and I have s#!tloads of work to do, which I’m not doing because of this damnably addictive blog. Plus, my blender just freaked out and spewed iced coffee all over my kitchen. So…just chill out. To paraphrase Gandalf, the laughter of Mordor shall be our only reward for quarrelling amongst ourselves.

let us all recall last fall that Mr. L**p*ld told us 22 people were going to be imminently indicted…

It seems peculiar to me that Fitzgerald would personally serve Rove’s attorneys. It seems such a departure from the Libby show. It is also peculiar to me that Jason Leopold would be the only source for such a major story. With all the leaks coming out of DC, I’m very surprised that one of the usual suspects doesn’t even present a waft of a story…not even Murray Waas, as far as I can see.

THAT SAID…I’m appreciative of the detail and specificity contained in the new truthout article. Either Leopold is living in the Evil Parallel Universe that we’ve been hearing so much about or there is a sufficiency of smoke to believe that a fire is breaking out.

D.Mason 65, that’s a racial stereotype, dumbass, and the community’s acquiescence would be tantamount to concurrence.

*ilson 46201 #82

That’s why I like heelers: no tails.

I’m so happy I can’t spill…er a spell.

I mean ethnic stereotype.

Could someone explain what “your comment is awaiting modertation” means? I just de-lurked a little while ago….thanks….

cleter @ 3:13 pm (#102) - To paraphrase Gandalf, the laughter of Mordor shall be our only reward for quarrelling amongst ourselves.

To quote Captain Kang, “Only fools fight in a burning house.”

ilson

Yeah I’m not so sure that this story is coherent.

Rove tells people- what- I HAVE been indicted- or I EXPECT to be indicted- and Fitz is doing a last minute bargaining session AFTER the indictment has been issued? He would have more leverage just BEFORE the indictment was issued. And if an indictment was handed down, WHEN was it handed down- and why isn’t it public?

What fits all these facts is that Fitz is about to ask for an indictment and is making one last run at a deal- last and final offer- if you can nail Cheney’s fat ass- we let you off easy. Rove knows that one way or another- SOME kind of indictment is coming- so he tells the White House and the message gets a little garbled by the time it gets picked up by staffers and passed on- that all seems likely to me. Indictment next week I bet.

I meant moderation…..

“your comment is awaiting modertation†means your spell-checker is faulty

BarbaraB says:
May 13th, 2006 at 3:03 pm

Thank you very much for your reply. I have access to the resources you mentioned with the exception of Westlaw.

I didn’t see the Clinton vs. Jones opinion. When I looked in Wikipedia, I saw no link to the text of the opinion.

I’m interested in the 1833 case you mentioned. Do you have a citation for that, please?

Hmmm. If you look over at www.waynemadsenreport (grain of salt, as always), he says that a motorcade was at the courthouse on Friday, just like the one that came before Libby was indicted. The Leopold theory is plausible. Still not sure I buy it, though.

“wear their underwear on their heads”

I took that to be a slam at the Clusterfuck torture techniques- not a racial stereotype.

rw, from emptywheel’s latest, “Fitzgerald Collecting Cheney’s Smoking Guns”
“…..Which is another reason to exercise some caution about whether or when Rove will be indicted. Rove has testified a fifth time, true. And leaks from Rove’s camp suggest he will be indicted shortly. But there’s a possibility (an outside possibility–I personally suspect Rove will be indicted along with others, but not yet) that Rove is not testifying–perhaps not exclusively–about his own actions….”

123beck @ 3:19 pm (#110) - It means you said the magic word(s) and the duck came down. For some reason, certain combinations of words, or comments consisting largely of web links, get put on hold until the webmistresses check them out. Hang on, assuming what you wrote isn’t completely offensive Jane will release it from purgatory soon.

Talk Left reporting Rove indicted.

the Rove indictment news is too hot for it to be kept a secret for too much longer if true — the corporate media would love to break it.

Marek — well your comment is posted isn’t it? So obviously we allow assholes to show up and run their mouths.

Your original argument, I see, has been abandoned and now you’ve moved on to self-righteousness. Well it was pretty threadbare anyway, no surprise.

You might be happier at Red State.