
I was going to add this as an update to the previous post on the importance of women in the punditocracy but decided it deserved its own space. From Garance Franke-Ruta of The American Prospect, in the comments:
[O]nce Amy Sullivan leaves the Washington Monthly toward the end of the month, I will have the peculiar honor of being the only female more than half-time political writer left at any of the liberal magazines in Washington. (Michelle Cottle at TNR being the other one, and part-time.) Sigh.
No women staff writers but me and Michelle in Washington at: TNR, TAP, WaMo, MoJo, The Nation, or Salon.
Plenty of women in middle-management, though.
The problem of women being shut out of opinion media, even progressive opinion media, is related to the one you describe of women not voting. Anna Greenberg has done research into this and discovered that a major reason these women don’t vote is they feel like they’re not well-informed and therefore aren’t qualified to vote. One reason they probably don’t feel well-informed is that they don’t keep up with political media as much as men, and I’d wager that one reason they don’t do that is when they turn to it they don’t see anyone who looks like they do or is talking about their concerns in a way they can relate to.
To her critcs I’d just say that Jane is not addressing a problem of identity politics; she’s addressing a problem of politics, period. Joe Trippi said after the last election that if Kerry had been able to get 3 million more single moms to vote he would have won. But good luck trying to get an 85 percent male progressive punditocracy to recognize the importance of such voters to their favored candidate’s electoral success or failure. Men prefer what they prefer and overlook what does not interest them.
This is a problem.
(Update: Kevin Drum writes to say that The Washington Monthly has hired Rebecca Sinderbrand as a new editor.)
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Fitzarina !
fitzalicious!
This is nuts. I’m sitting cross legged on my bed praying over my laptop on a snack tray that I was first to post Fitz! I need help!
Too true, Jane. Fabulous post.
Is it any wonder that the only solution the lefty opinionators think is “cool” is playing with guns?
Yeah, this from the last FDL post:
“Josh Marshall, Kevin Drum, the inimitable Digby, Glenn Greenwald, Billmon, Atrios and many others…”
Notice something about that list of influential bloggers?
This is my rifle, this is my gun.
One is for shooting, the other for fun …
(unless you are Dick Cheney when you can get off shooting an old man in the face)
You would think WINNING would interest the male progressive punditocracy, wouldn’t you?
ccmask says:
“This is nuts. I’m sitting cross legged on my bed praying over my laptop on a snack tray that I was first to post Fitz! I need help!”
cc, you’d rather be EPU’d? (I tried savin’ ya but it was a split second submit).
How can Bush be considered a tough president if he can’t face an open audience with open questions? How is it possible that one of the poll questions is not “Is President Bush a coward for not holding open questions and answers with regular Americans? I don’t get these crazy polls…..
ccmask 55
…I need help!
try a few days of FDL-detox in the desert, sans wireless. worked for me … for about six hours.
moeman: Do you get extra points if you Fitz and EPU at once?
the blogosphere remains amazingly (blazingly) white…rarely have I encountered amongst lefty blogs arrant racism (except for Aravosis anent Cynthia) … still, the lack of a black political perspective is obvious.
Hello my fabulous friends!
Reposted, in last place in EPU land.
“Garance Franke-Ruta, I loved this piece on 4.25.05. Thanks.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...../005937.ph p
I’ll be EPU’d for sure, but check it out, it pertains.”
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
Help Impeach Today
Now… People think this is a waste of time because even the Dems said that they were not going to impeach (yeah right)…
Keep the pressure on Congress… Talking about impeachment wakes people up… They question, it’s a strong motivator to get people thinking. It also lets Congress know how intense the dissapproval is for this President… They seem to be a little slow on the uptake. So please:
1) Sign petitions if you have not done so
2) Send a letter to Congress (both Senators & House rep)
3) Send a copy to the media
4) Enlist friends and family to help, ask them to chip in time
5) Spread the link around, email it (with a request to forward) post it on a blog, or in the comments of a news story.
Help out!!!
Thanks :)
*ilson, I like the haiku in cryptonomicon:
This is my rifle
There are many like it but
This rifle is mine.
Jane, (from the previous post): “And I am just as guilty as everyone else of not linking to women bloggers enough; it’s just laziness.”
It’s almost amusing to hear you accuse yourself of laziness. Anyone familiar with FDL knows it’s because you can’t find the time. I have no idea how you do all that you do, unless it’s that support staff of half a dozen you haven’t told us about…
ccmask #5 - love the image
Why is Amy Sullivan leaving Washington Monthly? That is brand new news to me! I’m one of those woman readers who always enjoyed her posts on Political Animal, even though they usually provoked massive negative responses from the above-listed male bloggers. Believe it or not, there are lots of Democratic female voters who agree with Amy on the religion topic among other things. I hope her voice will still be heard in the blogosphere.
I should note, however, that The Nation and Salon have a lot of female writers, including political writers, based in New York and elsewhere. Also worth noting is that the two most successful female-run progressive blogs — FDL and HuffPo — are based out of California, so it’s possible what I’m describing is partly a DC thing, rather than a comment on progressive media over all.
Damn, I EPU’d myself. And I know better than to spend a bunch of time on a lengthy comment that will be posted past comment number 100 in a thread…
This month’s AAUW magazine has an article about women and voting; they are working on an initiative titled, “The Power of One Vote”, trying to persuade more women to get out there and vote. Women’s voting stats for non-presidential elections is dismal; I hope that any and all of you working on the DNC’s 50-State Strategy to get out more votes will remember the female voters in every precinct and give them more attention. And I hope that Emily’s List is going to kick ass and take names with GOTV this year; they’ve got plenty of ammo to do it.
ditto *ilson 14. Get me some sunglasses….
“…Plenty of women in middle-management, though.”
That’s a general problem.
I have to laugh. My wife scuffled in “middle management” for YEARS. Her company went BK, was bought up by a bigger company. They lost the DOE contract she’d been working on for a decade (with the company that BK’d). She opted to not resign and sign on with the new incumbent, not knowing whether her new employer would even have a place for her.
Nice decision. They not only had a gig for her, they made her Director of Quality over the entire Environmental Division — which is really her entire former employer (about 6,500 employees) and now, a lot of people formerly HER superiors report to her. No longer “middle management,” she’s senior most female exec in the company.
And she totally kicks butt, too. Love it.
Jane, thanks for highlighting Garance Franke-Ruta’s comments on the earlier thread. I’d wager that one reason they don’t do that is when they turn to it they don’t see anyone who looks like they do or is talking about their concerns in a way they can relate to. This absolutely hits home. As one of my friends once said “We need more places where we can see our faces.”
Judical Watch gets its logs;
http://judicialwatch.org/abramoff-docs.shtml
~~~
ccmask, I’d ask Jane if a combo Fitz!+EPU gets you a Scooby snack.
A response to an EPU’d comment:
klevenstein — 255
I’ve always chalked up 99% of the world’s ills to male domination (actually, any form of domination by brute force).
A fair amount of truth to that. Matriarchal societies value all members equally, while Patriarchal societies have a hierarchical value system — with women and children the lowest valued.
In business organizations, women executives will respond to managerial challenges with uber alpha male attitudes, until the 50% of the managers are women. Then, they shift to a more nurturing and inclusive managerial style.
Perhaps as a man my opinion does’nt matter as much on this one but here goes;Just keep doing what your doing Jane(and Christy).Intelligent,articulate and well informed,FDL is a great read.If you inspire but one woman to stand up,would that not be a great reward?I belive you are reaching many.And by all means,link to those other gals!(I really like Taylor’s blog,hope she gets on the air)
EPU, from prior thread, tnh = emptywheel’s, “thenexthurrah.”
Here I was, almost hitting post on the previous thread, and deciding to check for a new post first. Thus, I have prevented myself from achieving my dream of being EPU’d my first time on FDL. Well, carp.
I was going to say in response to the comment quoted above in Jane’s post…
Jane and Redd (if I may still use the nickname) and the other women bloggers are a big part of the solution. Things are changing thanks to the internets, and their consistent great work will make a positive difference. These days, the source is less important than the message - great work will find a way to rise to the top. Just look at the FDL numbers.
BTW Jane, if you missed my first ever post here, I mentioned that FDL and Digby are my two favorite blogs, regardless of the gender of the people posting. Thanks for a great place to visit!
One of the biggest issues facing women is health care.
How many posts have been health-care related on Firedoglake?
It’s not just about what men prefer.
Bobby G: yes, I also caught that “Plenty of women in middle-management, though”. Isn’t that the glass ceiling?
I really like this post. The assumption that women can be represented by men in politics is simply nuts. It takes men as the norm, and assumes that women, being different, are a ’special interest’ unaffiliated with main-stream politics, and so can safely be relegated to the back of the bus. The impetus behind that style of argument is quite old: blacks used to be ‘represented’ by whites, making actual black representation unnecessary, gays are supposed to be represented by straights, and most recently, illeagl imigrants don’t get to be represented at all. Of course, the end result of this representation is that injustice is white-washed by an assumption that whatever bones are thrown to the ’special interests’ are exactly the right amount, and any more is simply pandering.
Jane,
like you, I was one of the 500 or so people still subscribing to and actually reading The New Republic. Thanks to you, I don’t read it anymore. It shows up here, gets put on a horizontal surface, and eventually gets thrown out in anticipation of a lapsed subscription. You and Christie and the whole female blogroll are where it’s at.
Siasl- welcome. Nice debut. Sorry you didn’t get EPU’d ;)
slothrop,
you just reminded me,I heard on the radio today that the USA was the 2nd to the last in infant mortality rate,as I recall 5 deaths out of a thousand births.The reason given-lack of healthcare.
Valley Girl says:
May 10th, 2006 at 4:18 pm
Bobby G: yes, I also caught that “Plenty of women in middle-management, thoughâ€. Isn’t that the glass ceiling?
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Yeah. Cheryl smashed that sucker to a zillion shards. In a Big Swingin’ Dick Environment (lotta engineers & good ol’ boy construction dudes), no less, where they don’t cotton to takin’ orders from a Skirt.
“FDL and HuffPo — are based out of California”
California? ; )
Perhaps I worded that wrong-I ment one spot from being the worst.
Gotsta ask (I do), why you would deem the “Punditocracy” as something worthy of intelligent, honest women (or men for that matter) to strive for? Or its television equivelent the “talking head”?
I think Pundit and Punditocracy are derisive, derogatory terms these days (at least that is how I use it) - invoking the horrofic images of Tweety, Pumpkin Head, Joe Klien, Carville, the even more idiotic pundits on the right, endless cable news discussions by blithering idiots, etc.
Having a voice is one thing, women (or men for that matter) using the the CM’s standards of recognition or medium for how those voices are shared/heard is another.
Which of course raises the metaphysical question: If a commentator lives or publishes outside the beltway, do they make a sound?
or, alternatively: If a commentator is not a “pundit” do they make a sound.
I think the answer is yes.
Do you consider yourself a pundit? You are certainly a popular, important commentator, a voice, but you live in Oregon and publish via/on the Internet (either here or on Huffpo).
I don’t disagree with the sentiment of the post: women’s voices/opinions/solutions are very important and need to be heard, I just don’t get, particularly after the discussion concerning the impact of the Internet, how being a Washington based pundit achieves them. There seem to be better alternatives.
Maybe I miss the point.
Gilliard’s commented before on how white-bread the masthead of The Nation is: it’s one thing to write, another to be a staffer.
While I’m not convinced that Pastor Amy is a net positive, you have to worry that there’s a certain amount of dick-swinging (pardon the imagery) in writing political blogs that tends to marginalise women’s voices. Frankly, Jeanne D’Arc has been a go-to, as has Katherine of Obsidian Wings, Shakes, MBW at Wampum. But when women blog and show passion, they’re far too likely to get the Maryscott O’Connor treatment from the MSM. And that’s shameful.
DMM
2nd to the last in infant mortality rate,as I recall 5 deaths out of a thousand births.The reason given-lack of healthcare.
Also correlates with lack of contraception among poor women.
*ilson 42601 #14 — Oliver Willis and Black Commentator are both pretty good, imo. I have a question, though: we know that progressive men have little problem reading female commentors. But Ann Coulter and the rest of the wingbats seem to do alright with non-progressives, so that would suggest, wouldn’t it, that we women really *don’t* scare people off? What, then, is the problem? Who ARE we really scaring?
Vaughn @ #7 - I believe Digby is a woman.
For a great African-American blogger on race as well as all other political issues, I love Steve Gilliard.
Atrios discusses sexism in blogging (with links!) http://atrios.blogspot.com/200.....8847770183
If the wingers have their way there will be no contraception-end of story
Well, ok. These last 2 aerticles talk about female stuff. And they talk about how various “women’s issues” are not being addressed on the national level.
What exactly are these female issues? Of course, there’s abortion…by definition, that will always be a big deal for women. But…what else? Oh, ok….sex harrassment stuff…but I think we have plenty of laws on that already? I just don’t know what other national level “female issues” are out there.
Ghostman
Hi Jane Hamsher,
Thanks for all your great work. I just wanted to point out a typo
in this piece:
-I was going to add this as an update to the previous post on the importance of women in the punditocracy but decided it deserve(S) its own space.
Hope this helps, and keep rockin’!
Hopefully we will all have something to talk about when (if)
Fitz schedules a press conference for Friday.
Wouldn’t that be nice?
One of the biggest issues facing women is health care.
How many posts have been health-care related on Firedoglake?
Kate Steadman is leading the way here.
More women atheist bloggers please!
“Also correlates with lack of contraception among poor women.”
Also correlates with the fact that OB/GYN has just about the highest malpractice insurance rates (’cuz you’re at risk for a LONG time post-partum), driving a lot of docs out (I personally know one eminent local OB/GYN doc who has NEVER been sued, but his rate increases have shut him down). It’s becoming a chronically underserved area in the U.S.
Ghostman 46
how about equal pay for equal work?
just for starters.
ck #26,
One of the key findings of the UN Millenium Goals project was that families and communities prosper much more when the women get the financial income, because the women will reinvest the $$ into the group, whereas the men will… well, you can imagine.
Someone asked about the word asshat, a word with growing utility in our oh-so shrill and radical lefty bloggy discourse. Here’s what wikipedia has to say….
Asshat is a slightly more trendy and less severe variation of asshole, graphically describing someone who has his “head up his ass” (i.e., not knowing what’s going on), or a variation of “butthead”. In the former sense, it is suggested that one is wearing one’s ass for a hat, or alternately, a hat for one’s ass (Some people view it as that from the waist up, you are a hat for your own ass.). A more modern usage of asshat describes a person doing something stupid, and can apply to anyone: “The boss is up to asshattery because he broke the computer even though he knew he was doing the wrong thing.” This meaning was popularized by Something Awful character Jeff K.
The word is popular in many online communities, serving as a more palatable version of its antecedent. According to Google’s Usenet statistics, the word only saw a token appearance every day or two starting in July, 1999, but following a slow rise in 2002, it entered popular usage in May, 2003.
As it continued to grow in popularity, asshat began to be used by online gamers, in first person shooter and massive multiplayer role playing games. It was a commonplace word on servers where vulgar language was not allowed.
The insult “assclown” is used in a similar fashion, although it is not as common. “Assclown” has become well known among fans of the WWE due to wrestler Chris Jericho using it during his promos, especially his “Highlight Reel”; the term was also famously used in the film Office Space to describe singer-songwriter Michael Bolton.
“Asstard” is another rarer variant upon the ass* theme. It is possibly a contraction of “asshole” and “retard” and has almost the same meaning as “asshole”, but with a greater implied connotation of stupidity. An identically spelt version of the same word is a contracttion of ‘asshole’ and ‘bastard’, with a commensurately more abusive meaning.
On Hardball right now, there are three middle-aged white men arguing with each other. How can women resist? :)
ccmask @ 13. Of course you do. I keep score, don’t worry. I’m also working on a play at home version for you all.
Valley Girl at 34 - thanks for the welcome. I think I’ll live ;-)
op99 - I went back and read your joke and link from the previous thread, you probably didn’t get a laugh due to the sensitive nature of your ribbing. However, your link (to male axiety on college campus’ due to females taking the initiative) is actually illustrative of where I see this issue going.
Increasingly, women are simply not taking the whole male domination thing lying down (so to speak). Wherever there is a gap, women are stepping up to close it. Jane, Christy and the rest are doing it in the blog-o-sphere. Others are doing so in the office (see BobbyG above). These days, tell a young woman she can’t do anything and watch in awe at the response. There is real change in the air. It may be coming 30 years later than most of us thought it would, but it is coming. For one, I’m sure my 2 year old daughter appreciates it.
it’s safer for a baby to be born in Havana than Indianapolis — this has to do with malpractice insurance how?
51 punaise….well, ok….but I just do not “recognize” this as some burning issue. We’ve got plenty of laws on this, and they’re good laws…..is there some sort of problem still with companies paying people, working the same job, at different pay scales? I just thought that was done away with.
Ghostman
Well said punaise, as per usual.
thanks cbl 72– just in time. Eagleburger is an asstard.
Steaming as I watch him and wolfie.
Ghostman (46) — it’s the other way around. What political topic is NOT a women’s issue, given that we comprise more than 50% of the population?
And yet we are heard from virtually not at all in terms of political journalism. It’s not like we might not have a different slant on things — like war, childcare, national healthcare, and so on.
The other 800 lb. gorilla in the room that we are not addressing is the dearth of women in elected office. It’s bad when a white male counterpart points it out to me (and really, REALLY bad for Republicans when they are pointedly the worst offenders) that there is a gross insufficiency in relation to our proportion of the population. Somebody check my math, but there’s 13 Senators out of 100 that are women…that’s less than 1 Senator for every 1 million females based on 2000 Census data.
That SUCKS. ON. ICE.
EPU’d from previous thread:
10 minute special for BobbyG
‘No children were left behind in the making of this’
;>)
John Casper - I’m viral, and spreading! Awesome. My ego is feeling pretty stoked at the moment.
Ghostman - it’s not just laws, but the culture, the economy, society in general. that was just the first example that came to mind. I’m sure our female counterparts could cite plenty of real-life personal examples of not getting equal pat for truly equal work. I gotta leave it at that for now…
on gender disparity in pay: under Bush, the country is backsliding. We got up to 76.6 but in 2004 slid back down to 75.5
http://www.usatoday.com/money/.....omen_x.htm
Why does Bush hate chicks?
From tail of last thread –
I think we owe a lot to Betty Bowers who really caused my first ever full blown coffee-spew-on-the-keyboard.
ralphinlex
*ilson46201 says:
May 10th, 2006 at 4:33 pm
it’s safer for a baby to be born in Havana than Indianapolis — this has to do with malpractice insurance how?
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It’s one contributing factor. It is simply getting harder to get good full-term pregancy management care. Icreasingly fewer OB/GYN docs, lower reimbursements, higher liability insurance costs. Driving a lot of docs out, particularly the older, more experienced ones.
Not just about “being born” in country X.
OT - I am going crazy waiting for Fitz. I’m just going to have to start assuming that he will not be announcing anything this week, for my own sanity.
Jon Garfunkel offers Promoting Women Bloggers: A Timeline of Relevant Discussions with appropriate links
“and I’d wager that one reason they don’t do that is when they turn to it they don’t see anyone who looks like they do or is talking about their concerns in a way they can relate to.”
I don’t buy it. First of all for most of us I think the “they don’t look like me I won’t listen to them” is sufficiently ridiculous that we won’t even consider it a factor. I have no idea what most of the pundits I listen to look like, what sexual orientation they are, and in some cases what sex they are. Doesn’t matter.
Mystery Pollster could be an Inuit Lesbian. Don’t care. Their analysis is damn useful.
And in those cases where I think I know if I turned out to be wrong it wouldn’t matter in the slightes. I assume Glenn Greenwald is a guy based on the name. If not, it really doesn’t matter.
Frankly if there is anything to this argument it does highlight a sexism but not on the part of men.
As for the second issue (talking about their concerns in a way they can relate to) there may be a point there but really how does a woman in america relate differently to presidential illegal actions than a guy does? I think those issues are pretty universal and don’t need a blue and pink version in order to sell them.
Now that having been said I do think opinion journalism could do with more women. However blaming women not voting on it is pretty tenuous case at best.
darkblack -
Awesome. Saved to disk, LOL!
I think that some of those women who don’t feel well enough informed have very, very little time to try to news and information. Still, most of the cooking and cleaning falls to women, on top of their outside jobs. With young children involved, I have no idea how many women have time for much of any time–they try to get info from the news as they’re managing household chores, etc.
And they probably sense they’re not getting good info form the MCM*, so, as I do about schoolboard elections, they don’t vote unless they can learn about the candidates.
We desperately need real information from the various media. With all its problems, thank goodness for NPR.
*Mainstream Coporate Media
Promoting Women Bloggers: A Timeline of Relevant Discussions
Here, here! The main reason I rely on FDL is because of Jane and so it is with Arianna. I’m a 73-year-old whose husband USED to tell me what to think politically, following the “media’s” spoon-fed pablum….Thanks for being there for all of us!!!
My general impression from talking to people I know ( not you guys here, obviously :) is that most women get their news from TV and talk radio - and you know what they’re hearing there. They say that they are busy and TV and radio are easier than taking the time to read, even on the internet. The Progressives need to get the message to these women somehow that we exist and have an alternative to the crap they’re bombarded with.
Evil Parallel Universe (39) — it’s about shaping opinion, EPU. There are still MANY people who get a substantial portion of political information from the punditocracy in MSM, and unfortunately, these people are the most consistent voters being in the 50+ age range and more often white than minority. My in-laws and my parents, for example; the in-laws are NOT wired, and the parents consume whatever gets pushed at them by the big news outfits on cable and on the internet. If that’s all they are getting, it’s no wonder my father is worried about “the gay agenda”, as one example of distorted news and its reception.
Women should have a much larger role in shaping perception — and women should NOT be limited to the harpies of the right, like Man-hands and Ol’ 60 Grit and that self-hating Philippino. God, if that was all my parents and in-laws had to base their knowledge of women upon…
61, Rayne…sure, there’s an issue of…I guess, UNDERrepresentation of “female bodies” in politics. But I seperate that from the whatever this “national female issues” might be. I recognize abortion as one of them….equal pay, as pointed out by punaise….but what else? That’s what I’m mystified about.
Ghostman
OfT: Wrt to high malpractice insurance, my understanding is most physicians pay dues to the American Medical Association. AMA in turn artificially restricts the number of Med School graduates/ per year in the U.S. This causes the shortage of physicians, but it maintains a high income for those who “get in.” The chronic shortage, however, is also probably at least partly to blame for the high number of errors which in turn contributes to more law suits. The physicians, however, after they get done paying their AMA dues, continue to complain about the high cost of malpractice insurance.
It seems to me that the grades and MCAT scores of those who get in and don’t get in are neglible. It’s not unreasonable that we could double the number of graduating physicians very quickly, without seeing a significant drop in their quality. More physicians, per patient, probably means a dramatic drop in the number of errors and a corresponding increase in the quality of health care.
I guess it’s time to repeat what I said on the last thread: I have long noticed that a predominantly-female entity seems much nicer and more civilized to work with …
ralphinlex 66 –
Even though Betty Bowers is a man in drag?
ck-regardless, the coffee spewed.
ralphinlex
I agree with Tlaloc @ 70. I think we imbue the CM, and their pundits and punditry, with too much power/influence. I have brought this up before, but if their power/influence was so great, then Chimpco and and repugs in general would have much better poll numbers. Somehow, people (whether male of female) have come to the discision that Chimpco and repugs aren’t for them. Did this happen in a vacuum? I doubt it - somehow the vast majority of Americans have gleened the information necessary to reach those conclusions, DESPITE the CM and their pundits and punditry.
From last thread:
I think this is gets at the potential quality and e-quality of the web as a communication/influence medium.
apropos media bias and the news: “…but facts are stubborn things!” or “The truth will out.”
how about affordable child-care for single working moms?
75 denise,
Satellite radio is opening things up to a lot more diversity, too.
or affordable child-care for married working moms?
Garance sez: …so it’s possible what I’m describing is partly a DC thing, rather than a comment on progressive media over all.
Yes. Duh. It’s not just possible; it’s true. So why not focus your criticism on the hand you apparently hope someday feeds you?
Don’t forget Laura Rozen at warandpiece.com
punaise #85 - Didn;t you hear? Rick Santorum has a solution for that - you just stay home and let the hubby be the breadwinner. Sacrifice is good for your character ;-)
yeah! Ms. Rozen is a daily must-read for sure !
85, punaise…ok, there’s one I recognize as a national female issue….I don’t know what the pro/con arguments might be, but that seems to be an issue.
Ghostman
Ghostman - laws make no difference when you don’t have the power to enforce them and most working women do not have the luxury (legal retainers, backup money for use during unemployment, etc) of suing, etc. And a lot of the glass ceiling is hard to prove - competent women are often treated as a problem rather than a resource.
On women bloggers or pundits - I think we continue to have a culture in which women are unused to raising their voices. Pundits and many/most bloggers have a certain sense of being entitled (and at times divinely annointed) to have an opinion yet so many women, including young smart women, are not so sure they have anything important to say. Sit in any group of adults - say your local political meeting - and watch how many women simply sit there quietly but then do all the work. Until we actively invite and encourage women to speak up and then shut up long enough for them to find their voice - we’ll continue to be a male dominated blogosphere.
One of the awesome things about Jane is that she speaks so clearly that the rest of us think “Hey, if Jane can say THAT, I can at least say …”
One of the main reasons I read FDL, along with Pam’s House Blend, is to get a woman’s perspective on things. It still amazes me that we haven’t had a woman to lead our country and Pakistan did.
Speak loud and proud is what I say to all the woman out there.
Didn’t post this on the last thread, arriving too late, but this might also be a place to let FDLers not already in the loop know about the second annual BlogHer conference (see http://blogher.org/about-blogher-conference-06 –I can’t get the link to display). The first conference in 2005 was the more or less spontaneous response to the disingenous I’d-link-to-women-bloggers-if-there-were-any stock in trade of the Technorati A-List.
Also of possible interest wrt to the recent thread covering the dearth of progressive training/mentoring traditions, FDLers might like to know about the Midwest Academy, a training “school” for organizers, founded by Heather Booth in the early /70s. I believe that Andy Stern (SEIU) and Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) are among the alumnae/i.
punaise #85 oops, I meant get married and let the hubby be the breadwinner etc…
Billmon weighs in on le e’tat, Bush (pardon my French) –
http://billmon.org/archives/002437.html
… Unfortunately for Jeb — and the younger members of the family waiting in line behind him — it appears the “Bush magic” (a political quality somewhat akin to Walter Mondale’s famous “Norwegian charisma”) has finally worn off. The mob is back in the streets again, looking to set Mademoiselle Guillotine up with a blind date. …
John Casper # 78 — I think the real culprit in the (truly alarming) rise in malpractice insurance is… the insurance industry! The real figures are pretty hard to get at, but they do seem to suggest that there has not been any rise in quantity or quality of lawsuits/awards. The real rise is simply in rates, since the insurers figured out about 20 years ago that they could raise them at will and blame Trial Lawyers (conveniently Democratic). imo.
come on, ladies - help me out here!
Duncan Black took note of this and asked something about whether the ladies are smart enough to discuss Social Security. Let’s review who does in BlogLand: me and my other two Angrybears (all male), Duncan, Brad DeLong, Mark Thoma - whoops, I’m not helping here as I’m only mentioning the smart males. But then we spend a lot (too much maybe) mocking the GUYS over at National Review et al. I have to believe that Amy Sullivan is smarter on this issue. OK, Kathleen Hayes is an idiot but she works for CNN.
Now I’m being unfair writing this on a blog where the smart ladies talk legal issues so non-lawyer me can follow Team Libby’s nonsense. So help me out here ladies - you are the female bloggers who can run circles around the guys at NRO or Tim Russert. I know there has to be a bunch - but being a tunnel vision male economist, I’m drawing a blank.
Yvonne — you rock.
Do you know why I love FireDogLake????
It’s the advertisements! I clicked on this link within Jane’s Amazon Link Ad on the right side of the screen… And I just can’t help butt thinking that as much as Jane talks about running on the beach with her dog, she’d look great in these!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....?n=1036592
Just a hunch though since all I’ve ever seen is a her little black & white picture up on Huffpo.
Rayne @ 76 - See my #81. And I wouldn’t disagree that women should have larger role in shaping opinion. The point is that you can shape opinion without being a pundit or part of the CM, and no matter what, you are not going to be able to “reach” everyone whether or not they hear/see what you have to say. The polling data is on my side concerning reaching people regardless of age or gender (for the mots part).
Would I prefer that the CM be more balanced both as to political slant and gender, yeah, I would. But women don’t need to be a part of the punditocracy to achieve influence, to lead opinion.
John Casper says:
May 10th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
In the second paragraph of your post, didn’t you mean to say this?
I got EPU’d on the last thread so wanted to repost this:
I want to recommend the wonderful political posts by Jane Smiley (the novelist) over at HuffingtonPost. Her ability to say exactly what I meant to say about the Bush administration and the right wing, and with such eloquence, clarity, succinctness and passion, when I myself only end up sputtering in outrage, has impressed me over several months. Give yourself a treat by reading all her previous posts. (And she’s no slouch as a novelist, either.)
OT - just another item in a long list of evidence that the Chimpy/Darth Cheney dictatorship is destroying the reputation of America:
Putin to Boost Russian Military, Economy
sorry if it was posted b4
OT punaise- I am progressing with my Pimsleur tapes for learning French. All audio. Mais je rechere un peu de la Francais ecrit. Il y a une probleme avec votre reponse peut-etre? Est ce que possible que vous ne voulez pas nourrisser des grenouille?
I don’t read FDL because it’s run by two women. I look at it because it’s good and smart. Very good, and very smart. And it suits me.
One of the reasons I read FDL is because it does have a distinct female vibe to it. Part of it’s usefulness comes expressly because it has a unique female angle on current topics althought I can not for the life of me articulate why. I am of the firm belief that No One is every going to telling me the Truth about Anything. You simply have to absorb as many facets of an issue as time and energy allow and then make your own sense of it. As a white male, FDL lends a very welcome counter-balancing touch to my male dominated “Jewel Net of Indra” truth vortex quest.
The Truth about any subject is an evolving verb, not a stagnant noun. I think of the truth as a
mirage massage, you can sense it but never seem to be able to put your finger on it.
Thank you Stephen Parrish, CPA in your 104.
Is it too obvious to remark that this clearly is not an accident of fate or an act of god, but an intentional (in both the agonic and philosphical/phenomenological senses) act?
If there are few–or no–women writing in influential blog-spaces on the (soi-disant) ‘left,’ this is an act of exclusion which redounds to the benefit of some ‘epistemic’ interests: forces and associations of opinions, iticaprivileges, and resources aimed at the creation of one (and only one) version of ‘truth’ (what Foucault meant when he described ‘discourses’).
Grad school story (yes, i’m an elite): A prof with whom i became friends–we were generational age-mates; but he continued his education whereas i spun off into dilettantism–provided me with this bit of understanding:
“When you are driven to compare what officialdom says with what it does, and the comparison indicates contradictions, do not doubt the reality of the contradictions. Instead, try to imagine in what context that which seems false would be true.”
The theory of critique in a short graf.
Thanks, Doug…
Nate:
That same Amazon ad appeared for me too the other day - right above Ann “adam’s apple” Coulter’s new book
And the Republican Rubber Stamp House of Representatives has just voted to extend tax cuts 2 more years - till 2010.
And the fed has increased interest rates another 1/4%.
Higher interest rates, higher oil and gas prices = consequence of a corrupt congress which favors the wealthy at the expense of ordinairy working people.
Brilliant Rovian strategy.
I wonder if they’d rubber stamp my mortgage?
Is that a photo of P.J. Harvey?