
Digby finds a telling quote (or lack thereof, to be accurate) from the National Press Club appearance by Cheney-promoted "front runner" Goss replacement candidate Gen. Michael Hayden:
Gen. Michael Hayden refused to answer question about spying on political enemies at National Press Club. At a public appearance, Bush's pointman in the Office of National Intelligence was asked if the NSA was wiretapping Bush's political enemies. When Hayden dodged the question, the questioner repeated, "No, I asked, are you targeting us and people who politically oppose the Bush government, the Bush administration? Not a fishing net, but are you targeting specifically political opponents of the Bush administration?" Hayden looked at the questioner, and after a silence called on a different questioner. (Hayden National Press Club remarks, 1/23/06)
Interesting, eh? THIS is the man that they are floating out as the heir apparent for the DCI job?
I don't know about everyone else, but if Rover and the WH are working this hard to push some sort of internecine battle storyline between the Cheney and Negroponte camps and the CIA insider factions -- you have to wonder just how much there is to the Dusty Foggo/Porter Goss poker and hooker escort extravaganza, don't you? (See Jane's excellent recap on this, if you have questions.) No one works the DC phones this hard unless they are trying to spin the story away from something else. And I say that something else isn't just some late-night poker.
Still waiting for an answer on that "why an immediate resignation instead of several weeks notice in order for the President to name a successor and ensure a smooth transition" question? Big ego battle isn't enough of a reason.
Looks like Tony Snow can expect a fun first day at the office. *snerk*
UPDATE: Mwahahaha. Dana Priest's hyped article on Goss' firing by Negroponte because Bush was too much of a weenie to do it himself "resignation" was a bit of a letdown. But this cracked me up as a snarky inclusion:
Foreign intelligence heads, who used to spend hours with Goss's predecessor, George J. Tenet, discussing strategy and tactics, are now more likely to meet with the director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte, whose position was created in the overhaul of U.S. intelligence agencies.One senior European counterterrorism official, asked recently for his assessment of Goss's leadership, responded by saying, "Who?"
Goss, then the Republican chairman of the House intelligence panel, was handpicked by the White House to purge what some in the administration viewed as a cabal of wily spies working to oppose administration policy in Iraq. "He came in to clean up without knowing what he was going to clean up," one former intelligence official said.
Goss's counterinsurgency campaign was so crudely executed by his top lieutenants, some of them former congressional staffers, that they drove out senior and mid-level civil servants who were unwilling to accept the accusation that their actions were politically motivated, some intelligence officers and outside experts said.
"The agency was never at war with the White House," contended Gary Berntsen, a former operations officer and self-described Republican and Bush supporter who retired in June 2005. "Eighty-five percent of them are Republicans. The CIA was a convenient scapegoat."
I'd say Dana Priest and her sources are taking a bit of a vengeful whack at Goss on his way out the door. Mwee hee. Revenge may be a dish best served cold, but sometimes a warm little appetizer can be pretty damn tasty.
UPDATE #2: In re-reading the Priest article, one thing did strike me near the end -- the Rumsfeld/Negroponte struggle to the death-match for autonomy or control on the defense end of the intel services. When you couple that with the Cheney push for Hayden, does anyone else get the sense that Rummy may be winning that battle? And, given his stellar track record with Iraq planning, I'm not exactly feeling any safer in that context.
(Hat tip to reader bkny for the Digby link.)
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Good morning, all. I am not usually up at this time, but reading about Gay Republicans makes me afraid to go back to bed… nightmares, you know!
(and I am a card-carrying what sharkbabe is… just so you know, it’s not the Gay part that scares me!)
jacrat — I hear you. Some images are just not worth the imagining. Ergh.
Conflicting sources say that Goss ejection was due to turf battle with Negro-deathsquads-Ponte, others say there is a connection to the Foggo-Escortgate story.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....foggo.html
OT.
Another narrative of the UK chopper downing in Basra. Looks like the Brits are wearing thin in Shiite Central.
http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/z.....24693.aspx
-GSD
This is just the kind of juicy story I want to email around, and I’m selective. Really. I don’t send everything. But no one even responds any longer. The American people just don’t seem to give a rat’s ass about what’s going on in Washington. And my friends aren’t stupid but they don’t seem to give a shit either. WAHHH!
Thank GOD for FDL. And I’ll be making myself a “EPU’d on FDL” Tshirt before Spring is over. I think I’ll put, “2nd Fitz!” on the back too, since that’s as near as I’ve gotten to #1.
Anyone know the Sunday talk show line-up and whether Goss will be the hot topic, over say, the latest tortured Kennedy soul.
Something tells me this is the calm before the storm. If the investigations are leading directly to the WH (again) and the top of the CIA, Bush is likely to do anything to hold on to power.
If that means installing someone like Hayden to do his spying and bidding, we’re gonna be in for a wild and wooly summer.
Yes, Porter Goss did great harm to the CIA. But it might also be true that he was told to fire Foggo and Goss refused. Bush can’t tolerate dissent, so that may have speeded things up and ensured his replacement would be a complete toady.
Can we please get some grown ups back in DC to do these critically important jobs?
OT.
An interesting quick read on the recent Zarqawi video and US military attempts at ridicule.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05.....mp;emc=rss
-GSD
THIS is the man that they are floating out as the heir apparant for the DCI job?
Redd, I think they’re in wtf,-let’s-just-go-for-it mode. More brazen by the day. No, make that hour.
And we’ve been bantering about all the repuke Sons of J. Edgar - but I bet it’s at the very heart of Fornigate.
Sharkbabe #11, that’s exactly what I was getting at. There’s a bad tension in the air, emanating from DC. I don’t like it.
Spelling police - “heir apparant” s/b “apparent”. :)
OT-sorry
A former White House and FBI staffer pleaded guilty Thursday to passing classified information to plotters he said were trying to overthrow Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.
During a federal court hearing, the former intelligence analyst, Leandro Aragoncillo, outlined five years of efforts to pass the information.
Seattle Times
Does anyone else think this is more important than a congressman scaping his bumper and going into rehab? Where the hell are the MSM priorities? (That was rhetorical.)
A spy in the White House pleads guilty, and no one notices. It was big news when he was arrested, even on the teebee. So WTF?
Christy and Jane
O/T but very important. I’ve spent a little time today checking out something about Firedoglake and I was shocked. As in gobsmacked surprised. I hate to think how big your bandwidth bill is for a site with as many visitors as this it’d be high.
A huge amount of this is your graphics which aren’t optimised for web usage.
The image on this posting haydenbushnegro.jpg is 77.14Kb which means in fact 78Kb. I’ve just copied it into my incredibly ancient and primitive version of Image Composer a freebie from Microsoft dating back to 1997 and it gives me the option of saving it without a discernible loss of quality at:
45Kb
28kb (a tiny loss of quality and you really have to be staring at it to notice)
19Kb (Ok you notice at this point but its still a clear image)
or last:
10Kb (very poor quality)
Most of your bandwidth bill and most of the repsonse time is because of your unoptimised graphics. I’m really embarassed that I never noticed this I’ve been around on the net since it was DARPANET and JANET (yes I’m that old) For goodness sake cut your bills drastically by going to www.nonags.com downloading and experimenting with a few of the free thumbnail creators/image optimisers. You’ll cut your bandwidth bill massively and drastically speed up FDL for people on less than blazingly fast connections.
Both of you have my email addy so if you need further info for goodness sake get in touch I’ll be more than glad to help.
OtherWA - ayup. Me neither.
And Sharon 7 - I know zackly how you feel, the pain AND the relief…
“Can we please get some grown ups back in DC to do these critically important jobs?”
Only if the Dems grow a spine between now and the hearings on Hayden. I guess Shrub scoured the administration to name somebody as insane as himself to this post. (Probably was a short search.)
I wonder if they had a more graceful exit planned for Porty, but they had to rush it because some press person (Dana Priest, maybe) was about to spill the beans and they wanted to beat her to it?
OT.
Minority Leader Pelosi on building a strategy. Says the Dems have been using the internet to get information out to the people. More plans on the way.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0506.html
-GSD
Oh, and Rawstory is back up.
-GSD
PS: nonags.com only does windows software but perhaps siun who is a mac user could help you out if you’ve a mac.
christy — to correct my earlier post re leahy — oy. i’m embarrassed to say it should have referenced jay rockefeller. what can i say, they all kind of blend together….
“Bush’s pointman in the Office of National Intelligence was asked if the NSA was wiretapping Bush’s political enemies. …” Hayden looked at the questioner, and after a silence called on a different questioner. (Hayden National Press Club remarks, 1/23/06)”
Why didn’t Hayden simply say “we don’t spy on political enemies.” Is he so morally upstanding that he didn’t want to lie?????????
…”85% of the CIA is Republican…”
Golly! They are eating their own. Hookers and Cannibalism.
And there are pictures and video. Somebody was covering their ass while the congressmen and staffers were baring theirs.
bkny– catching up from the previous thread– leahy did not vote to confirm him; linky to the vote is here:
http://www.senate.gov/legislat.....vote=00187
EPU’d from last thread:
Morning, all - late to the party…
My Baltimore Sun reports this morning that when Negroponte told Goss he had to fire Foggo, Goss refused, and thus became the loser in that pissing contest.
Was chilled to the bone when Hayden’s name surfaced as the likely replacement. This guy must be a graduate of the George W. Bush School of Constitutionology, which explains why he probably knows less about the Constitution than an immigrant studying for citizenship. This no doubt suits the Bush administration just fine, though. Wouldn’t want someone who actually knows the law and feels compelled to follow it now, would we?
Two things worry me about this. One is that the ineptitude and incompetence of the administration may finally have broken the CIA to the point where it may have been rendered useless in the execution of its stated purpose. If Hayden is appointed, I think there will be another exodus from the agency, this time of agents and employees who will refuse to participate in the wholesale spying on Americans.
The other thing that worries me is that putting someone like Hayden into the top job, combined with departures of those with principles, and more administration-style tweaking, the end result may be an agency that resembles the KGB more than anything else.
Chilled to the bone.
Billmon also has a great posting on this today:
The night porter checks out.
For any concerned
REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS
Pat Roberts, Kansas
Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV
West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah Carl Levin, Michigan
Mike Dewine, Ohio Dianne Feinstein, California
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri Ron Wyden, Oregon
Trent Lott, Mississippi Evan Bayh, Indiana
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia
This is our intelligence commitee,are any your Senators?Perhaps it’s time to let them know what you think.
OT - sorry.
Here is another frightening article that was sent to me this morning;
So How Close is a Showdown Over Iran?
News of British involvement in a mock invasion of Iran is just the latest step in what seems a slow slide to war.by Paul Harris in Washington, Gaby Hinsliff in London and Robert Tait in Tehran
here is the link:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk.....93,00.html
(OT) As funny political names go, Dusty Foggo is right up there with Bebe Rebozo.
Markfromireland — good data there. My machine IS ancient, so I didn’t pay any mind. This week may test to limit; squeeze all k’s out will payback maninfold. (..and U2’s ‘Achtung Baby’ playing. Cheers!)
My design for today’s has been greymatter (as opposed to greymail);
flag-in-distress - upsidedown. Makes lower left quad as the field of stars. (next is ripped from J.Garcia’s first solo LP cove;disclosure) Converted star field to ‘S.O.S.’ in Morse Code (*** — ***, like that) Some of the stripes have the ‘ascii’ conversion:
115 111 115. Linked a couple series in Soduku style.
Sometimes I wonder how some leaden footed hack like Hayden can rise so high in the government but then I realize it is precisely this kind of studied mediocrity that is useful to people who want dubious things done and go unquestioned.
As for the rationale that Goss left because of turf battles with Negroponte, is there any evidence that these occurred? I mean if Goss is busy gutting the CIA is he really going to be that concerned about maintaining the agency’s prerogatives? I can see the agency being pissed at losing authority to Negroponte but Goss? I’m not so sure.
I also don’t buy the idea that Goss suddenly had had enough of his internal fights inside the CIA or that his presence as a divisive leader had become too much for him or the Administration. Rumsfeld has been busy destroying our military, a much larger organization, for a lot longer and he’s still at the Pentagon.
“…viewed as a cabal of wily spies working to oppose administration policy in Iraq.”
‘Wily’? Gadzooks! Hopefully Goss has de-wily-fied the CIA.
it’s been years since I used one but there used to be sites out on the Net where for free you could optimize your images (shrink the bandwidth). Nowadays I use a Photoshop analogue. that poof-ter Mark is quite correct about not wasting your server costs on profligate pictures…
From Josh
“WaPo: Foggo tells colleagues he’s resigning next week”
Foggoing??
The thing that really bothers me is, you would think that the administration wouldn’t play so fast and loose with someone in Goss’ position unless…
Goss should know where all the bodies are buried by now. Once he becomes a private citizen, what’s to stop him from becoming another Paul O’Neil?
Somethin’s happenin’ here; what it is ain’t exactly clear…
Markfromireland is so right. The graphic named haydenbushnegro.jpg is 80K at 300 dpi. I knocked it down in Photoshop to 34K at 72dpi and could have made it even smaller and faster!!!! This is web site 101 stuff.
he he he Wilson that pun hadn’t occurred to me thanks for the giggle. Now if you’ll excuse me he said reaching for the packet of cigarettes I think its time for me to enjoy sucking on a fag. If I get a coughing fit while I’m doing it I’m going to blame you - laughing and inhaling don’t mix well!
:-))))))
tryggth #34
Actually saving his own willy may have been part of the reason that he left and also had to leave.
Is he going to get Foggo-Marched out of the CIA?
-GSD
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away.
Thanks, Ann in AZ!
This is a first. Things are so bad for Bush’s team they’re forced to use “staggering incompetence” as a COVER STORY to explain a sudden resignation by the head of the CIA.
I would not count the CIA out just yet. The really bad guys haven’t left…you can’t even find them on the org chart as they are not listed there.
Goss undoubtedly received a ‘warning’ he couldn’t ignore…maybe pictures in a plain brown envelope…maybe something a little more threatening. In my opinion this is the latest sign that ‘CIA vs. Bush: Civil War’ is close to becoming public.
What will Bush’s poll numbers look like if Rove is indited next week?
And what is Senator Feingold gonna ask the ignorant Hayden….I mean a guy who is convinced he knows what the Constitution says when in fact he does not.
My take, he is not confirmed.
Pushing Hayden as CIA Director fits with Billmons Flight Forward thesis:
Billmon
“What we are witnessing (through rips in the curtain of official secrecy) may be an example of what the Germans call the flucht nach vorne – the “flight forward.” This refers to a situation in which an individual or institution seeks a way out of a crisis by becoming ever more daring and aggressive (or, as the White House propaganda department might put it: “bold”) A familar analogy is the gambler in Vegas, who tries to get out of a hole by doubling down on each successive bet.
Classic historical examples of the flucht nach vornes include Napoleon’s attempt to break the long stalemate with Britain by invading Russia, the decision of the Deep South slaveholding states to secede from the Union after Lincoln’s election, and Milosevic’s bid to create a “greater Serbia” after Yugoslavia fell apart.
As these examples suggest, flights forward usually don’t end well – just as relatively few gamblers emerge from a doubling-down spree with their shirts still on their backs.”
This is all so, so . . . um, well . . . words fail me –
Anyway — in the EPU’d thread, someone linked to a 2005 Billmon post, that opened with a recent GOoPer gay sex scandal, and segued back to the 1989 suicide of Craig Spence, a gay sex pimp from the Reagan Bush era.
http://billmon.org/archives/001692.html
Steve Gillard has good post on this — alas, he is viewing the scandal from the perspective of normal reality, rather than the el Duce filters that are central to the BushCo world view.
http://stevegilliard.blogspot......-fall.html
Scary doesn’t begin to describe how this feels — surreal, perhaps; but even that pales before the grotesque mendacity of these monsters.
Maybe mowing the grass will restore some sense of normalcy.
color compression also helps squeeze image bandwidth - you don’t need 32,000,000 colors for casual webwork: 256 will do (paletizing).
BRB
Sharbabe says:
“Redd, I think they’re in wtf,-let’s-just-go-for-it mode. More brazen by the day. No, make that hour.”
While I agree that this sort of appointment has a brazen appearance, I think the reality is quite the opposite. From our persepctive as outsiders we see a guy like Hayden as just another soiled insider. But what are the hiring options? The level of corruption is so complete that they really can’t bring in fresh blood. The only people that can be trusted in these positions almost have to have dirty hands already - otherwise the administration is taking the risk of exposing their corruption. When the corruption involves a true Constitutional crisis, icluding clearly illegal activities like domestic spying, there is just no way that Bush can afford fresh eyes getting a look on the inside.
Is it possible that the reason Goss suddenly resigned had to do with NATIONAL SECURITY? Can you say, “Guy Burgess”?
Gay prostitutes are pretty good at blackmailing their marks to betray their country.
And then there’s this guy:
http://www.blogactive.com/2005.....-call.html
This guy spent a ton of one-on-one time with George when he was running for Governor and actually lived in the Bush household for awhile.
This is really thick smoke: I suspect there’s a fire.
And then there’s this hearsay about Rove:
“When I asked him just what all this was about, all these secret gays - the whole pack of them - he gave me one of those looks that says “Girl, this says it all” and said, in a whispered tone, “Karl Rove.”"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/5/194558/7271
The Bush administration is really, really limping now. They have started to have problems.
Speaking of numbers; wonder how FOX finagled the 38% they say? But, even they, if Fitz indicts Rove and/or any of the ‘usual suspects’ then the pressure drop, pressure drop, pressure gonna drop on you.
Fox, et al ALL 29% and less. And then….?
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Just a reminder of a certain movie that named days in May. Today is the Sixth Day of May.
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Found it Jane/Christy I’ve sometimes used this place it’s free and online:
http://tools.dynamicdrive.com/...../index.php
Seriously spend sometime experimenting there you can save big bucks if you don’t want to shell out and prefer not to download anything. If one of you wants to email me the contents of your css file (you’ll find it in the Wordpress manage files bit of your dashboard) I’ll see if there’s anything else. I’ll bet your either using a php script to clip your images or your clipping them in your css file. If its a php script and if I’m right then with one extra step (that will also reduce the “weight” of the image you can turn it off and save a bit of server load.
OT–Looks like the propaganda video mockery of Zarqawi BACKFIRED on the administration!
>>>>>>
An effort by the American military to discredit the terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi by showing video outtakes of him fumbling with a machine gun — suggesting that he lacks real fighting skill — was questioned yesterday by retired and active American military officers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05.....mp;emc=rss
>>>>>>>>>>>
Can somebody please explain to me why he has an American made weapon and fatigues and a new leg???
Destroying the CIA was Bush and Cheney’s goal all along. Mission accomplished. They can now tell us that Iran purchased a nuclear bomb from wherever, and there will be no leaks to contradict them. Because no one is left to tell the truth.
And I have no hope for D.C. dems to even put up a token fight on a new CIA leader. They relish their ‘insider’ status too much and Bush is the giver of status it seems.
From the WaPo article, as referenced by lurcher 36:
Gonna be an interesting few weeks, yes indeed.
My own sexual quirks seem so pedestrian. I mean, they all involve grrrls.
mfi 28
thanks for the billmon link:
“The CIA isn’t the new FEMA; it’s the new New Orleans, flooded and gutted and left to mold in the mud.
I’d say it would take years for the agency to recover, but my suspicion is that it will never recover, as its missions and resources continue to flow towards the Pentagon, like stars being sucked down a black hole.
…
Years ago I saw an editorial cartoon that showed the Pentagon attached to the White House as its new west wing. We may be nearing the day when it’s actually the other way around. And Porter Goss has done his part to bring that day closer.
Which is why Bush and Goss probably should have had a banner hanging over their heads at their news conference yesterday — “Mission Accomplished.” I’m sure Rumsfeld would have been happy to have one made for them.
“
JMG.
The spin was that Bush had lost confidence with Goss from the beginning.
So he let an incompetent man fester and ruin the top spy agency in the nation.
His “My Pet Goat” moment, only with the CIA.
It has become a vortex of scandal, incometence, corruption and tragedy. No one knows how to stop it now.
-GSD
tryggth 34
“…viewed as a cabal of wily spies working to oppose administration policy in Iraq.â€
‘Wily’? Gadzooks! Hopefully Goss has de-wily-fied the CIA.
the purge of the coyotes at Acme Intelligence Services
for shitz and gigglez, I squeezed that 3-way image down to 8K and it still is quite acceptable — in other words: a 10 to 1 savings of bandwidth
Laura Rozen of War and Piece is calling bullshit on the media spin:
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/004100.html
The short version:
1) If Goss wasn’t resigning because of Hookergate, how come his good buddy Foggo — who is at the center of Hookergate — is resigning next week?
2) Goss, protecting his CIA subordinates from the wiles of Evil John Negroponte? Don’t make me laugh. Goss was brought on not to save the CIA, but to gut it and remake it into a neocon’s wet dream.
Hey if Ms Pelosi’s right and the Dem party are reaching out then maybe we call back!
Let them know that the party leadership has fallen way behind the great mass of , not just the party , but the public.
Ask them to call for the release of the presidents transcripts of his interview with Mr Fitzgerald and the expedition of Phase 2 that Harry shut down the Senate to expedite.
After all when all’s said and done a lot more get’s said than done.
Get the truth out like you said Mr President.
Pedestrian crossing …. Zebra crossing …. all the world but thee and me is strange and even thee is a little strange :-)
Incidentally all hell has broken loose in Basra. I’m swapping in and out of FDL but a british helicopter down (allegedly it crashed - I don’t believe that it crahed of its own accord) and british soldiers trying to secure the scene have had to run for their lives.
Gen. Michael Hayden refused to answer question about spying on political enemies at National Press Club.
Great. Where do they find these people? I must have had some wishful thinking in the back of my head: e.g., the more BushCo resignations, the less likely BushCo will find a corrupt replacement. How wrong I was. It seems BushCo selects its appointees from an endless cesspool.
Angie #53
I think the new leg is just a fashion thing.
Oilfieldguy #56
Careful, being a pedestrian is still frowned upon in many parts of the country and is illegal, I think, in California.
Angie,
Great minds. See # 10.
-GSD
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Porter Goss said Saturday that his surprise resignation as CIA director is “just one of those mysteries,” offering no other explanation for his sudden departure after almost two years on the job.
…
Hayden was involved in the decision that Goss must go, the source said.
I just heard that 4 Brits dead and 4 Iraqis killed while attempting to secure the ‘crash’ site.
markfromireland 39 - I am trying like hell to stop sucking on fags meself. Bad for ya, and the whole phraseology just sounds not good in my milieu :)
Hi folks - I’m having a grandiose morning and looking for ways to stop Hayden’s appointment.
Anyone want to play along?
Good - let’s start.
Recess - does it require unanimous consent?
[no, I’m not talking the “safe word†sort of recess/play…]
A few of my neurons seem to remember reading that the recess “declarations†(or whatever the heck they are) in Congress require unanimous consent.
This means that consensus from Democratic “leaders†would not be required. The House Dems would be irrelevant in any event (no surprise to those of us living in Pelosi’s district).
Any one of the few senators possessing a full set of vertebrae are more than enough to stop a unanimous “recess†declaration before adjournment.
Hmm - just one Senator could stop the appointment of the man who already refused to deny the NSA and domestic surveillance are used against Bush’s political opponents.
Does anyone have suggestions for a Senator with big gonads (either flavor), and an itch to defend the Constitution they swore to uphold?
[PS - and can any of those gifted with comprehension of Senatorial rules lay out what circumstances would allow the Seantors to go off on “break†without allowing conditions for a recess appointment?]
[PPS - I’m reposting this from the thread below ’cause:
- I got EPU’d
- I wrote the post for this thread, not the thread below. I should not post before the first cup of tea confers orientation.]
Oilfieldguy says:
May 6th, 2006 at 9:35 am
“My own sexual quirks seem so pedestrian.”
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“Sex”? I seem to remember that. Hmmm…
Cunningham is what cooked Goss according to law enforcement source.
Foggo to be indicted?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0506.html
-GSD
With all that is going on, I don’t know how the Senate and House Intelligence Committees cannot hold hearings on the CIA in general, above and beyond the immediate vacancy.
mfi 63 –
any links to the helo story?
OT, but I want to get a call from the legal beagles here-
Is it possible to indict Rove on conspiracy but not the co-conspirator’s?
General Hayden, ‘eh? He’s the “No ‘probable cause requirement in the 4th Amendment’” dude, right?
Blithering idiot.
GSD #20
I thought Pelosi’s comments strange and self serving:
“We’ve taken the mockery–’Oh, they don’t have a plan’–in order to lay the groundwork.”
“Part of this plan to bypass mainstream media included using blogs. Pelosi implied that giving a story to Internet outlets, who then trump the mainstream media, is not only a means of getting a story out, but also a way to spur mainstream news sites into action, via competition.”
It seems that she is saying that the Democratic Party’s lack of message was all part of a cunning strategy to mobilize their base and that they have been feeding stories to us instead of the other way around. Plans like these I don’t need.
Iraq=no-such-thing. Three states. We will leave behind three states. Biden tries to jump out front like he’s leading a parade.
GSD– you never fail to amaze me! i am in and out today trying to weed the garden and keep up. ;)
Hugh– a long time ago, I moved to California and did not have a car. I used the bus to get to and from my first job until I could save enough to buy a car. I walked to the mall ca. 2 miles away to buy an ironing board so I could have nice, crisp uniforms. You should have seen the looks I got and at least 3 people slowed down in their cars to ask me if everything was ok… hilarious. I think they thought I was insane.
…and on NPR Weekend Edition this morning, “folksy” Scott Simon (ugggh!) chatting with Daniel Shore re Goss’ departure. Standard beltway fare, no mention of a whiff of scandal (Fornigate). I expect nothing from Simon, but Daniel Shore, of all people? Even way past his prime he should be well-enough connected and savvy enough to drop at least a hint of this.
GSD @ 72 -
I’m still not able to get rawstory. Anyone else still having this problem too?
ck– link to the British story:
http://today.reuters.co.uk/new.....K-IRAQ.xml
rawstory works here.
Oilfieldguy says:
May 6th, 2006 at 9:48 am
“…We will leave behind three states. Biden tries to jump out front like he’s leading a parade.”
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Yeah, 3 inevitable chronically warring states, the end of which will be wrought by the most brutal men left standing.
It was all gonna be SO easy. LMAO.
i am able to access rawstory– finally.
I don’t know what scares me more. These guys running things ruthlessly, or these guys running around with things in shambles.
One thing I don’t get: with this spectacle going on, why would any foreigner invest in this country? It looks mighty unstable to me.
I agree with Christy: the Foggo fun (and what’s more fun than saying “Dusty Foggo” every chance you get?) may figure tangentially into this firing, but much higher-stakes issues and machinations are at play.
A frightening possibility is that a high-level decision to attack Iran has made the need for a Stalinist purge of all potential CIA dissenters too pressing to delegate to the bumbling functionary Goss.
Oilfield Guy,
Biden is like Stork in Animal House. He’ll lead the parade down a dead end street and run away as the trombones start hitting the tuba players in the back of the head.
Great idea Joe. Why not recommend partitioning red and blue state America too, assclown.
-GSD
*Try-after a half day, it was finally working for me.
*Angie, that helicopter crash is terrible, it is another sign that the US/UK have lost and should be trying to do something different.
markfromireland @ 8:55 am (#16) - I haven’t done any tests, so I’m just asking. Do the pictures load every time you or I hit reload? They should stay cached. The only reason they wouldn’t is either that the browser’s cache is emptied or the web server’s caching rules don’t differentiate between pictures and text (possible, maybe even likely). If it’s the latter, then it might be possible to persuade the web host to set up a different rule for picture files than for the HTML files. I’ve had to do this for network monitoring applications, so it’s possible to do, and actually fairly easy if you have access to the web server.
One of the problems with a site like this is that the text is changing almost constantly, but the pictures rarely do. You shouldn’t be paying for me to reload that picture every time I reload the page.
OK, tell me where I am wrong.
From the beginning, Rummy and Dick wanted the Pentagon to control intelligence, correct?
Bush refuses to kick Rummy, and then Goss resigns in a bizarre fashion the same week a former CIA guy blasts Rummy in public
Then, the floated replacement is a 4 star general.
Won’t that complete the loop and place the CIA under Rummy’s control?
What I don’t know is how Negroponte fits into this scenario. Anyone have more information on his feeling WRT giving it all to Rummy?
FWIW, the best no/low-cost image editor for Mac is Lemkesoft’s GraphicConverter;
http://www.lemkesoft.de/en/graphdownld_en.htm
Actually, Biden proposed a 3 region with weak central government solution. Outside of ignoring basic reality it could work. A more likely scenario going this route would be a failed state or chronically unstable one.
Biden seems to like “it looks good on paper” solutions. He also backed sending more troops (which we didn’t and don’t have) to Iraq.
Sorry to repeat myself, but if the Iraqis were reasonable enough to accept these kinds of solutions they would be reasonable enough to avoid the conflicts that produced them.
ralphbon -
Recall this post from the other day? (I forget who posted it, but I saved the text):
“I just got off the phone with a supplier in the high desert area of California…they also supply Ft. Irwin near Barstow. Ft. Irwin is known for desert training for active and reserve military, and has been training and deploying troops for Iraq since before we started this wondrous project.
Now my supplier gets word that they are suddenly to support back-to-back (= continual) training from now until at least September. That’s more than any time in recent history, including since 2003, according to the supplier. They ‘usually’ run a couple of rounds of training, then some weeks off.
I remember driving out to Joshua Tree about six months before the start of the current Iraq adventure and seeing mile after mile of armored desert vehicles on the back of tractor-trailer flatbeds and thinking, “uh-oh, we’re going to Iraq.â€
Now Ft. Irwin is in non-stop desert training until September.
Could be this is training troops to cycle through Iraq, replacing the thousands that are coming up on one and two-year tours of duty.
OR….Iran?
Just makes you feel good all over, doesn’t it?”
I’ve already checked the comments page html: the image is separately sourced.
Goss: “mystery”
David Ferry: “It’s a mystery inside an enigma wrapped in a riddle!”
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Love that quote. Excuse for any excessive use. I DO try to do the responsible thing, ya know Occifer.
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“Six Days On the Road” now playing from County USA 1963.
(library visit = bluegrass fest.)
And, I don’t expect Hayden to get a hearing — I believe he will be a recess appointment during the Memorial Day recess — remember, this is all about November. If the Ds control one house or the other (I just can’t let myself think it will be both) then the party is over, and it won’t matter who the pinhead atop the CIA org chart is.
If by some catastrophe, the Rs maintain control, then Hayden will be zipped through a confirmation hearing in early 07 and Bush is safe for the rest of his term.
Don’t forget the pottery barn rule! Kurds are looking for a expanded Kurdistan, much to the displeasure of Turkey and Iran. A beatdown is coming. Removal of Saddam was the only obstacle from linking Iranian Shia with their breathren in the Gulf Emirates, Syria and Saudia Arabia to dominate oil reserves in the Middle East. The Texas Oilman can’t be having none of that. Big ass wups.
That silence is golden. I wonder how the NSA goes about deciding who’s just angry about Administration policies (thinking back on some of my blog comments) and who’s out to blow something up? Easy to see how political enemies might be accidentally surveilled in the process, eh?
Sorry i’m back I’m having a major row with some of the commenters on dailywarnews who’ve been gloating about people running for their lives.
Best place if you’re in north america is yahoo’s news page:
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World.....mYw–
Here’s UK reuters:
http://today.reuters.co.uk/new.....K-IRAQ.xml
kirby– I think Negroponte would be just fine with having all the power in DoD– it’ll just free up more time for him to play at his club. Besides, he’s way comfy with Defense.
Seriously, though, this is an interesting read:
WASHINGTON — After a little more than a year in his newly created job, John D. Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, has won an initial battle to establish authority over the vast U.S. intelligence community — Porter J. Goss, who resisted Negroponte’s moves to limit the autonomy of the CIA, is gone.
But Negroponte faces a larger and much more difficult challenge: a struggle with Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld’s Department of Defense, which runs more than 80% of the nation’s intelligence budget and is busy expanding its role even further.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....-headlines
the CIA was set up with 2 functions:
1. centralizing and coordination of all intelligence to the W.H.
2. actual in-the-field spying and covert operations
The new Director of National Intelligence (Negroponte) acquired the first function. The 2nd function (grunt-work) is being dispersed to the DOD.
The CIA now is passe!
Ralphbon says A frightening possibility is that a high-level decision to attack Iran has made the need for a Stalinist purge of all potential CIA dissenters too pressing to delegate to the bumbling functionary Goss.
This is right on the money, IMO. There have been one leak after another in the recent past, some being suspected of being CIA people. Before going to Iran, this avenue of leaks needed to be shut down - permanently. Soon there will probably be a mass exodus of people from the CIA — and this is exactly what Cheney wants. All the better to spread whatever ‘intelligence’ Cheney and his crew can cook up.
cook up = manufacture, forge, confessions of the tortured
Prostitutes, but no one saw women? So they were playing pokehim not poker? There have been hints of this for a long time, often by commenters at blogs like this. Is there any real evidence of gay sex and gay prosititution at all. Other than the odd presence of Gannon/Guckert, which is not hard evidence realy (no cracks on “hard” OK?) Or was the ring full service providing hims or hers, or both at once, depending on tastes?
BobbyG @ 9:47 am (#76) - Yes, that’s our boy. I try never to argue about what the Constitution does or does not say without having a copy in front of me. It’s not all that complicated as such things go, but it’s quite a bit to commit to memory. You’d think a guy like Hayden, who is used to speaking in public, would follow that rule, too.
BobbyG
You might be interested in the posting I wrote about that a few day days ago biden and his neocon buddy gelb have been whoring that one out for a long time - just click my home page and scroll down to:
“A barefaced and Stupid Lie”
Hugh @#91
My firm belief is there will be three states. If we stay there 2 years or ten years it won’t matter. I see absolutely no way to prevent it from happening. We cannot force them to live together, but maybe we could help seperate them. It will be disastrous. The choice now is between two negatives and which is the least terrible. Bush should report to the Hague.
tryggth
you should try purging your browser cache, that is usually what blocks a site
Cheney can name the new and improved organization after I. Lewis Libby. That will teach them not to mess with the Chancellor’s lads.