Color me confused. Everyone on TV seems to be buying the line that the Goss resignation has been planned for weeks. No natural curiosity about the fact that it takes effect immediately, or that there is no replacement, or that he had a meeting scheduled this afternoon he didn't show up for. Not to mention the fact that as Professor Foland pointed out in the comments, the White House would've probably sacrificed its collective left nut to avoid stepping on a drunk Kennedy story.
But has the entire press corps turned into such a pile of humorless prudes that they can't connect the dots in the Brent Wilkes hooker scandal?
From the Wall Street Journal on April 27:
Mr. Wade in February pleaded guilty to giving bribes of more than $1 million to Mr. Cunningham, including cash, antiques and payment for yachts. Mr. Wade, who hasn't been sentenced yet, is cooperating with prosecutors. According to people with knowledge of the investigation, Mr. Wade told investigators that Mr. Cunningham periodically phoned him to request a prostitute, and that Mr. Wade then helped to arrange for one. A limousine driver then picked up the prostitute as well as Mr. Cunningham, and drove them to one of the hotel suites, originally at the Watergate Hotel, and subsequently at the Westin Grand.
Then it got a bit jucier in Harpers:
The two defense contractors who allegedly bribed Cunningham, said the Journal, were Brent Wilkes, the founder of ADCS Inc., and Mitchell Wade, the founder of MZM Inc.; both firms profited greatly from their connections with Cunningham. The Journal also suggested that other lawmakers might be implicated. I've learned from a well-connected source that those under intense scrutiny by the FBI are current and former lawmakers on Defense and Intelligence committees—including one person who now holds a powerful intelligence post.
A powerful intelligence post? Who could that be? TPM Muckracker speculated, because it would've been irresponsible not to:
After a long series of off-the-record phone calls with CIA spokespeople, I was finally given an on-the-record comment -- about Goss. Speaking on behalf of the director, CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Millerwise Dyck said, "This is horribly irresponsible. He hasn't even been to the Watergate in decades."
When I asked if Goss had attended Wilkes' parties at the Westin or other locations, Millerwise Dyck repeated the denial. "It's horribly irresponsible. Flatly untrue."
Let's see. Jennifer Millerwise Dyck, spokeswoman for Dick Cheney from 2001-2003, who has been questioned by Fitzgerald about "the vice president’s knowledge of the anti-Wilson campaign and his dealings on it with Libby, his chief of staff." I see she's moved on to greener pastures. That settles that then. Or maybe not. Laura Rozen quotes a reader:
"Dana Priest is on MSNBC right now saying we'll have to wait for tomorrow's paper to find out why he resigned. The Post must have called him for comment on a story running tomorrow about his involvement with Brent Wilkes."
Pourquoi Brent Wilkes? Says Josh Marshall :
Wilkes has deep ties into the CIA. The focal point of those ties is to Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, the man Porter Goss appointed to the #3 position at CIA when he took over the Agency last year. Remember, Wilkes' scam was getting corrupt contracts deep in the 'black' world of intelligence and defense appropriations, where there's little or no oversight. Foggo was in the contracting and procurement field at the CIA. So you can see how he and Wilkes, who have been friends since high school, had plenty to talk about.
Lack of oversight...hmmm....well the Bush Administration is certainly the perfect petri dish for that, given their knee-jerk response to getting oversighted. And how did Goss make the acquaintance of Foggo?
That's how we get into the other part of this story -- those 'hospitality suites', that moveable feast of food, poker and love, Brent Wilkes ran in Washington for maybe fifteen years. We hear that's how Goss got to be friends with Foggo, whom he later promoted to executive director of the CIA, the number 3 post at the Agency.
Foggo admitted to be part of the Wilkes festivities, though he says there were no hookers. PJ O'Rourke will no doubt vouch for him. Time for some talking heads to develop a little natural curiosity. Hell we know he didn't get the boot for incompetence, lying or corruption, that would be unprecedented. Scandal fatigue may finally be working against them.
(graphic courtesy wonkydonkey at Kos )
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FITZ !!!!!!
OH MY GOD, FIIIIIIITZ!!
No Fitzo De Mayo!
Fitzmorial Day, Anyone?
oh!
cbl beat me to it.
So close, so far away.
Can’t get these words out of my head:
Buy hooker, buy crook.
My comment at Max’s:
Even if 10 prostitutes were paraded in from of the cameras with 10 sworn affidavits that they serviced Porter Goss, the media would claim this was a case of disgruntled temp workers.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0505.html
Libby’s lawyers say they have five witnesses who say Joe Wilson told them his wife worked at the CIA. I know Vallelly and the other nut that are regular Fox News bsers, but who are the others?
John King advanced a plausible theory. His sources say Goss/CIA had a power struggle with Negroponte. The President sided with Negroponte.
CNN is implying it’s a cat fight between Goss and Negroponte and Goss resigned in a fit of pique . . .
do they really want that to be their story ? that the guys most responsible for intelligence and security got in a pissing contest ???
Fudged.
Everyone talks about the resignation in conjunction with the conjecture that it’s the hooker business.
Is it not possible/plausible that the purge of Democrats is a part of the cause?
Nothing to see here. Move on. I mean, there was a gay hooker in the WH–a lot–and it barely rated a mention.
Jane, you must be a heck of a carpenter, cuz you just drove that nail with one stroke.
“John King advanced a plausible theory. His sources say Goss/CIA had a power struggle with Negroponte. The President sided with Negroponte. “
It’s also plausible that he’s leaving to focus on “world Peace” - but doubtful.
Somebody found the pictures.
erm, front even.
The DC press crowd are useless because they’ve become soft and overfed on cocktail weenies, like calves being milk-fed in pens on their way to becoming veal. No wonder fake news like The Daily Show is so popular. It’s the hardest-hitting stuff available.
“Somebody sends me a blue dress and some DNA, I’ll have an investigation.”
- Porter Goss, on the outing of Valerie Plame, October 2003.
Hold it. I was under the impression that Goss himself denied going to the parties. Now it seems that his spokesperson was the one doing the denying. Did Goss himself ever deny…well, anything?
Did they find the blue dress?
CNN did a fair job of presenting the “Hookergate” issue. I’m rather surprised.
Meanwhile, I’m just waiting for someone to use the headline:
Porter Goss Resigns So He Can Spend More Time With Whores
john king and fat tim russert have been the proponents of the spin that it’s disaffection on goss’ part that negroponte has usurped alot of his power. and that the discussions have been underway for weeks. that is such bullshit.
hell, blitzer is still pushing fran townsend as new director; but laura rozen has knocked that down. my $$’s on laura’s version.
these fools are such tools.
is there a betting line on this in Vegas? Can someone check it out?
It’s also plausible that he’s leaving to focus on “world Peace.”
Or to spend more time with Andy Card’s family.
Goss: “So, do you come to orgies often?”
Foggo: “When things are slow.”
Goss: “Nice unit.”
Foggo: “I can thank Bob Dole for that.”
Goss: “Who’s the dude in the crotchless flightsuit?”
Foggo: “That’s the Duke. He likes to watch.”
Goss: “High five dudes, this is the best.”
-GSD
Goss and negroponte in a pissing contest? Sounds like wet works.
Planed for weeks, my fat wide ass (and it is fat and wide, I assure you!). I think the very minor Titanically WH minor deckchair re-arrangement (you know, new press secty, new cook, new dog poop picker upper, etc.) has by unexpected necessity been turned into a cover for getting very hot potatoes out the door before the shit hits the fan.
Goss doesn’t look nearly as much like a tater as Rove, but it is a metaphore.
Some one probably has linked to this already, but it is probably worth another.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....008376.php
There is good evidence now that the strong national security ethical white-man Daddies who began their takeover in 94 started going very bad very quickly, right in the heart of their national seccurity, spending constraint, moral uprightness heartland. Only question is how far up it goes. And how deeply was Goss involved, or was he just tolerant. And what did WH know, and if not, why not?
Dear oh, dear, very major Bribes Booze and Babes were in the mix right from the get go.
A downside is that I read that the new WH cook is very good and innovative, I think is the first woman, and this good news will be obscured. That is too bad.
Via ThinkProgress, Bill Kristol on Fox
“BILL KRISTOL: It wasn’t done in a routine way. I don’t think people — certainly people close to Goss did not expect this to happen. Senior congressmen and senators didn’t expect this to happen. I’m not sure the White House expected this to happen. … I do think this was sudden. It was unexpected. There will be more of a story that will come out. “
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/05/kristol-goss/
TPM Muckraker just put up a compendium of their HookerGate coverage since April 27:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/ar.....ookergate/
The evidence must be soooooooooooooo good.
harry (#7)
“Libby’s lawyers say they have five witnesses who say Joe Wilson told them his wife worked at the CIA. I know Vallelly and the other nut that are regular Fox News bsers, but who are the others?”
if vallely and his ilk are the best witnesses libby’s got — he’s toast.
i doubt they’ll reach the witness stand; team libby can’t be that crazy. they must be playing to the media.
5 &y says: at 5
should that read
buy hooker, bye crook
Sorry T-Rex - just got lucky bouncin’ off the walls here - My God, I’ll need horse tranquilizers the day Rover gets frogmarched - and OMG, a Haldol drip if it’s Cheney
that 900 pound gorilla from the last thread is wearing a garter belt and stiletto ’s
Its all Bill Clinton’s fault - just listen to the 32% (should be 25% now) calling into Washington Journal on C-Span the next few mornings.
When I left for work this am, the “carpe diem” post was the only one up — looks like it was quite a diem to carpe; meetings with Fitz, Goss in the Watergate with the Hookers. I go to work and come home to find the Bush admin disgracefully imploding; how delightful! What’s cooking for this evening?
cdj: “Is it not possible/plausible that the purge of Democrats is a part of the cause?”
Umm, no.
Bush would be giving Goss a medal for that.
Or do you think Goss is honorable enough to resign over orders to engage in political partisanship games with our intelligence gathering?
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Wow, even Fox News isn’t buying the spin. Should be an interesting weekend. Anyone got the names of the Fearsome Five that Libby’s planning on calling?
Tweety’s email update about today’s show:
“CIA Director Porter Goss has resigned after about 20 months on the job and it’s
a full-blown feeding frenzy in the nation’s capital tonight with that surprising
announcement. The White House said that it is unlikely that a replacement for
Goss will be named today. Here’s a report from the AP:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12646394/.
In announcing the resignation, President Bush said Goss led the agency “ably.”
But why is Goss going? Why wasn’t there any rumor of his departure? Is this just
the latest piece of the White House’s personnel changes? Tonight on Hardball,
MSNBC Chief Washington Correspondent Norah O’Donnell, sitting in for Chris, will
have all the latest on this breaking news with NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, the
Washington Post’s Walter Pincus, the Wall Street Journal and CNBC’s John
Harwood, Newsweek’s Michael Isikoff, and NBC News Analyst Bill Harlow, a former
CIA spokesman….”
The DIRECTOR of the fucking CIA resigns in a fit of pique???
Give new meaning to the meme of whiny assed titty babies. Casey must be rolling in his grave.
Speaking of which, I wonder what part that other former CIA Director is playing in all this. Bush 41, I mean. Maybe this is how some “grown-ups” are trying to take charge. If so, not an encouraging sign…
By the way, we REALLY need a Photoshopped pic of Porter with panties on his head. You should do one with Speedos on his head, too, just in case the story gets even better.
Rolling stones gather no Goss.
Harry 7, strictly as a legal matter, what would Joe Wilson’s acts matter in Scooter’s perjury/false statements/ obstruction of justice case? “I lied to the FBI and GJ about something other people knew, too.” I can see where that would make the OUTING immaterial, but would it excuse the lying? Didn’t seem to for Clinton.
noshrub (#20): yeah, they did. jeffie gannon was wearing it…..
GSD #26 - crotchless flightsuit…you just made me hurl.
Well, I was going to cut paste my EPU’d post, bc it had the hommage to COlbert on Andy Card’s kids, but Jane has it here already. *g*
I go with my call downthread though - someone’s security clearance may have been under pressure from another fsoubrcie, ?? and if it was going to have to be revoked - well, if you resign, does it just go away or do you keep clearance? Has anyone been asking about his clearance - if he keeps it or not?
Inquiring minds.
AP Poll shows Clusterfuck with a 33% JAR– more significantly- he now has 65% of americans DISAPPROVING of his job performance- I believe that’s the highest yet..
This boy’s in a peck of trouble.
If there’s anything that will get this nation’s press interested in the what government officials are doing it’s sex. Hopefully, the scent of misplaced semen in the air will spur them to action.
Middleagedhousewife says:
May 5th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
This day isn’t over yet.
Great! Now I can buy that t-shirt with “I was EPU’ed at FDL” on it, but I can’t find it in your store.
op99 -
By claiming Wilson to be a liar, Libby’s team is trying the “I know you are, but what am I” defense.
This defense is known to be effective among preschool level children. Whether it works in a court of law remains to be seen.
Cafferty coming up next - reading the e-mails about why Porter Goss’ sudden resignation on a Friday afternoon - might be interesting to see if he dares utter the word “hookers.” At least he could attribute it to the viewers…
vachon–
“disgruntled temp workers” = hundred-dollar joke.
And didja see the Prez at the formal announcement? Talk about not being comfortable in your skin. And it was touching, in its way, when he praised the CIA for “joining the intelligence community.” (Something like that, anyway.)
wesgpc (#28):
metaphore? i take it you aspirate the “h”…..
Dyke said specifically that Goss hadn’t been to the Watergate in decades. She never denied he’d been to the Westin. Typical GOP double talk. In response to a direct question whether Goss had been to any of the parties, she said, “It’s horribly irresponsible. Flatly untrue.” Not the same type of denial she gave about the Watergate…definitely ambiguous. Hell, if they are going to lie, why don’t they do it outright instead of playing with words? I guess they’re too tricky for the MSM…those guys buy it if it sounds remotely like an answer.
EPU’d excerpt, Rayne 197 –
So now we know Rove has already been spinning on this one. What I’m wondering, because of the timing involved and the very careful parsing of words by Shirlington Limo honcho Chris Baker whether Gannon’s “emergence†isn’t somehow related. Think about it; Baker says that he was “never in attendance in any party where any women were being used for prostitution purposes.â€
Can you say “honeypot� Heh. I knew you could.
http://rigorousintuition.blogs.....y-pot.html
Thanks asdf 51, I forgot who we were dealing with for a minute.
I think CIA elements decided to destroy Goss (McCarthy, whistleblower crackdown, blame for Iraq, politicization of intelligence and all) but they gave him a chance to fall on his sword before they released the hooka photos.
If that’s not it, and the Goss v. Negroponte angle has any credence, Goss was probably advising against attacking Iran. For this to happen on the same day as the Jack Straw move in the UK could be a sign that behind the curtain, the moment of truth on Iran is upon us.
Holy shit this’ll be one helluva spring for political junkies.
Anybody watching Jack Cafferty reading his emails? This is what I submitted:
“Jack,
When any government official, especially a highly placed one, resigns on Friday afternoon, it’s bad, very bad. Heck, he doesn’t even use the usual excuse of “spending more time with the family.†Could it have something to do with playing poker at the Watergate with Republican lobbyists and politicians that have been either indicted or convicted of scamming the taxpayers? And, there are those whispers of prostitutes being a side benefit of those parties…hmmm, the Bush Administration has done just about everything wrong except have a sex scandal. Now all you newshounds will finally pay attention.”
It’s funnier the way T- says it at comment 33. Inspires a little poem.
By hook or by crook?
Buy hooker? Buy crook?
Buy hooker! Bye, crook!
Ed N Sted @ 29
Great quote from Kristol. He was literally speechless when Colbert asked him how the New American Century was going so far: “Fabulous, right?” Caught like a deer in the headlights.
Question is, is he growing the rump of a conscience, or just a rat fleeing the Hindenberg?
I tend to rat…
JGabriel -
I meant: mightn’t there have been something illegal about that purge, that’s about to come out, and hence leading to a quick exit (stage left) by Goss?
Noron’s subbing for Matthews. Gossgate and Kennedygate on tap.
Frank 41
Check in with Daily Kos and look for Dood Abides in the diaries. He almost always follows these kind of things with photoshop magic. Dood is the one who did the fantabulous pic of Rove being frogmarched.
It’s official, one of the girls identified Goss as the cheap skate speedy Gonzales.
I poached someone’s “Stinko de Mayo” and sent it to Cafferty. He just read it.
Thanks to whoever said it.
The CIA folks will be having a great weekend while it lasts. Let’s hope they don’t get another Goss.
A few of us have had the thought Goss may take Harris’s place on Florida’s ballot. Someone please say it’s too late for that.
Dana Priest didn’t seem at all surprised about the announcement and said so. She knocked down the White House spinners glorification of Goss by saying (paraphrase) Goss had it coming. And, I agree she sounded as though we can read it in the (her) paper tomorrow.
The Bushites started spinning that Negroponte asked Goss to leave and the two have been discussing it for several weeks. (Like, “I want you to leave but we’ll discuss it for several weeks.”) That explains why everyone was caught so flat-footed? Bush looked more out of it than usual as he hemmed and hawed his way through the announcement picking the right words from his vast vocabulary, and Goss appeared to have been kicked in the stomach, one or more times. I don’t give Negroponte credit for knowing enough to fire Goss. The upcoming scandal reporting is more likely the reason. Has there ever been a more corrupt, dysfunctional government in any country’s history?
Fitz beginning to look a lot like Christmas….
Hi Mary 46 -
What’s a “fsoubrcie”? I’m out of that acronym loop.
Apologies for my ootal.
Thanks!
Frank Probst: “Anyone got the names of the Fearsome Five that Libby’s planning on calling?”
Eeny, Meenie, Miney, Moe, and the guy they caught be a toe.
Yes, of course - it’s just yer run-of-the-mill cross border dispute between Goss and Negroponte. That’s why Goss cleaned out his desk at 7:30 am, and THEN went to tell Bush to go stick it, why there was no questioning allowed by reporters, why there is no replacement waiting in the wings…
Yep, that makes sense.
I may take cocktail hour a bit early today.
Finally…Of course it took Cafferty to see what’s obvious about the resignation–that there’s more going on. Several of his e-mailers suggested that the hookergate scandal is behind this….
But now, of course, the very dim Kathleen Koch at the White House taking dictation (CNN)….
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CNN - goss replacement could be named as soon as monday - duh, like they would name a replacement on the weekend. the weekend is when they are all with their hookers supplied by jeff gannon.
NPR on Goss - no reason given for the resignation, after serving less than 2 years. Brought in after the failures of 9-11, “controversial” management style …just a bunch of blah, blah, blah.
fuck, why does this shit have to happen on friday. the daily show needs to expand to 7 days week till fredo is gone…
Andrea Mitchell - Goss was “FIRED”!!!
This via Laura Rozen (War and Piece)
“I hear that when Porter Goss went to meet with Negroponte today, he didn’t know he was going to be leaving the job. And that it would have been the President’s decision, not Negroponte’s. And that this may have to do with how Goss handled a management issue concerning Foggo. And perhaps with a tie in to HIPSI. And I hear that Fran Townsend has already been approached about taking Goss’s job — and turned it down. And I hear that agency folks are worried this is the end of the Agency as they know it — Pentagon role over intelligence will only increase. “I think there’s another shoe to drop,” said one source.”
http://www.warandpiece.com
I’m surprised the #3 man hasn’t gone down yet (figuratively) today. If this was about the Duke-Stir, I think Foggo’s in deeper than Goss (figuratively, again). Thoughts?
Let’s connect the dots. Starting in late April we suddenly see two stories emerge from the CIA. The first is the firing of this woman McCarthy for allegedly leaking. The CIA puts out the story that it was for leaking about the bush gulags. But CIA vets say that as someone in the CIA’s Inspector General’s office she generally wouldn’t even know about these prisons or be involved with them. But she would potentially be involved in things involving bad conduct of a non-clandestine nature, for example bribery and whoring by the CIA Director. McCarthy and her attorney then say that her termination had nothing to do with the bush gulags. No pushback from Goss or the bush pimps.
So McCarthy gets shitcanned and a transparently phony cover story is arranged by the CIA. A few days later the LA times is insinuating that a “former congressman, now high-ranking intelligence official” is implicated in the Cunningham/Wilkes/Whores/Graft Ring. We then learn that McCarthy was nailed for nothing more than perhaps having failed a lie detector test about whether she’d met with certain reporters.
Look, anytime you’re dealing with a war between the CIA and the exec branch there’s not guaranty that the straight story will come out. But this looks pretty damn plain to me.
“stinko de mayo”!!
(quoted from CNN)
If GOss’ firing was anticipated, then why did he say this in his statement?
Uh, hello????? MSM??? “This morning” means sometime today. If Goss isn’t even claiming he knew about it before today, then why they hell are you jackasses?
But here’s a thought: Think of Snow Job’s first day on the job…
laura rozen is the person to check routinely. this is funny:
Update IV: Hill source: they were totally surprised. When the announcement of Goss’s resignation came on a bank of TVs turned to CNN today, “Literally people were running” — to their offices, etc. to figure out what’s going on.
http://www.warandpiece.com/
So Porter leaves on Goss-amer wings?
We are all punaise now.
I keep tellin ya, it’s Cambone
MSM all-media machine seems to be coming down on the Negroponte-got-his-knife-out theory in lieu of actual information.
Top dem Senator coming up on NPR to “comment.” Can’t wait.
There once was a spy named Porter
whose tenure was quite a bit shorter
than we had expected, but it was detected
that he’d Fornigated more than he’d oughta’
Here’s an interesting take on why there would be photographs floating around. After all who wants a Polaroid around when there are hookers in the room?
From Cannonfire 4/30…
Actually, there’s a lot more to say. If we presume that these congressmen were just a bit smarter than Lyndie England, and that they knew better than to take incriminating photos of themselves (and then allow the snaps to fall into the hands of outsiders), we must ask: Who took these images, and under what circumstances?
Those who do not learn from history…
One historical nugget I keep mentioning in this blog concerns Xaviera Hollander, the New York City madam credited with writing The Happy Hooker in 1971. The co-writer (ghost writer?) of the book was Robin Moore — an odd choice, since he usually specializes in military and intelligence matters. Anthony Summers, in his Nixon bio, tells us (in a footnote!) that, according to Moore, the CIA had set up clandestine cameras in Xaviera’s bedroom, in order to get blackmail material on Washington pols and visiting Arab potentates.
yup, I bet there are photos with hookers, but the head-spinning speed of the resignation makes me think an indictment is coming….
Reposted link from the last thread - someone said it went to a different story when they hit it:
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....8773.story
Judges Challenge Internet Wiretap Rules
By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer
10:46 AM PDT, May 5, 2006
WASHINGTON — A U.S. appeals panel sharply challenged the Bush administration Friday over new rules making it easier for police and the FBI to wiretap Internet phone calls. A judge said the government’s courtroom arguments were “gobbledygook.”
The skepticism expressed so openly toward the administration’s case encouraged civil liberties and education groups that argued that the U.S. is improperly applying telephone-era rules to a new generation of Internet services.
[snip]
Sally @ 2:01 pm (#67) - I look forward to Priest’s article.
I don’t for one second think this resignation was in the works for weeks, either. If it was, they’d at least have said they have a few candidates for DCI under consideration and meanwhile here’s the interim DCI. In contrast to Tenet’s resignation, this seems positively panicky and ill-planned. I don’t know what the emergency is, but it caught them flat-footed whatever it is.
Noron just asked, “Why today?” Atta girl.
#17 puppethead: The Daily Show was the only news show I saw that pulled out the old press conference with the question, “should the American people change their gas-guzzling lifestyle?” “Uh, that’s a big NO”
Says it all!
At #61, from a lurker said:
“Question is, is he growing the rump of a conscience, or just a rat fleeing the Hindenberg?”
I like it! The mental image of rats fleeing the Hindenberg is somehow very appropriate.
I also enjoyed Kristol on Colbert. My personal guess here is that he see’s the writing on the
wall and is attempting to flee the Hindenberg. But that’s just wild speculation on my part.
Pincus says the reason for canning Goss is that the White House is worried that Mary Macarthy is likely to take legal action for her firing.
In other words, Bushco is worried that the whole pile of lies and corruption may come tumbling out in a court of law.
Pincus on Hardball doesnt think it’s a big deal … that the W.H. was unhappy with his job performance and Goss just tired of being dogged by Negroponte.
Move along - nothing to see here.
Goss did not leave because of a spat with Negroponte. This is pure WH spin.
Goss’s assigned mission is to destroy the CIA from above and within. He sure as heck ain’t nobly defending his institution.
And Negroponte is a pure figurehead, without a shred of power or responsibility, and with the cushiest job on the planet. He isn’t in a power struggle with anyone.
Kirk - no acronym - just the word source, but three other letters were on my mind too and got intermingled.
I mean, in what world would the FBI be involved in an investigation where they might have to challenge security clearances for a CIA Director? I’m sure it’s something else. Maybe he got an invtiation to go hunting with Dick?
cdj: “I meant: mightn’t there have been something illegal about that purge, that’s about to come out, and hence leading to a quick exit (stage left) by Goss?”
Ah, thanks for clarifying, didn’t think of that interpretation.
Frankly, I think it’s unlikely. Anything like that would be more in the line of a *political* scandal, which the Bush administration tends to shrug off.
Frank Probst @ 2:05 pm (#78) - Foggo’s ties to Shirlington Limo and the whole Duke Cunningham mess will probably get him in serious doodoo sooner or later. Whether that’s before Goss or after at this point I’d really rather not have to guess.
How bad must the truth be that the White House (through back channels, naturally) is going with the spin that Goss lost a turf war with Negroponte. Somehow “it wasn’t hookers it was a pissing match” doesn’t seem like the ideal kind of explanation for having the head of CIA resign suddenly. Especially *ahem* at a time of war.
Someone at the CIA has been able to crack Goss’ password. It is “Hookie Pokey”.
#32 aaaargh re: Libby’s latest “defense”–
Everyone has got to realize that Team Libby is not interested in the law or in justice. They’re interested in POLITICS. This is a political game with Libby’s future as the side dish. What they’re really doing is trying to muddy the waters so the sheeple and the rightwing media machine have fish to fry. They don’t care if it’s relevant to the case or not.
Goss did not leave because of a spat with Negroponte. This is pure WH spin.
Goss’s assigned mission is to destroy the CIA from above and within. He sure as heck ain’t nobly defending his institution.
laura rozen has a quote pretty much confirming that the likely outcome will be the end of the cia; intelligence operations will be controlled by the pentagon.
who cares if the cia loses more ground? it’s populated by incompetents, specially considering its failure to hire folks who speak foreign languages — we’d be better off getting our intelligence from sesame street
“intelligence operations will be controlled by the pentagon. “
But Rummy “isn’t an intelligence guy”
Syndicated MSM A.P. press wire spin headline:
“Goss gone after failing to win trust at CIA”
This is what’s going out to all the minor media markets. Short blurb about how he was viewed as an outsider hatchet man.
Nothing to see here, folks, everyone just move along now…
Ed Sted 77, wow–Laura’s hearing a heck of a lot. So Bush decided to can him, but had Negroponte tell him? And, sorry–what’s HIPSI, anybody? Doesn’t show up in acronym finder.
But worst of all is hearing that the Pentagon’s going to exert even more control over intelligence issues.
Hey what’s the matter with everyone here?
Don’t you know a Kennedy was caught DUI?!!
The MSM knows no one’s going to be titillated by republicans having sex—it’ll simply repulse those viewers/readers who aren’t incredulous to begin with (you know the whole lot of them gave it up decades ago for screwing the country instead) —and if it’s about corruption or darker machinations, well, so what? That’s so opaque and tedious to explain and makes the viewer yawn and switch channels.
So, go back to the top and repeat, “A Kennedy was…”
Mary 98 -
Two invitations Porter couldn’t refuse:
hunting with Dick
polygraph with Mary McCarthy’s successor
Haha. Digby on Goss and other matters!
He ends by saying, “Whatever it is, it’s fair to assume it’s something quite serious and something we will find out about quite soon. They aren’t even trotting out the old ‘wants to spend time with his family.’”
“That’s why Goss cleaned out his desk at 7:30 am, and THEN went to tell Bush to go stick it,”
Is this confirmed?
If so, then I really don’t think there’s much meat at all to this story that this whole thing happened over a lovers’ tiff between Goss and Negroponte. I mean, it sounds weak as hell to begin with, but then to factor in Goss going into the office at the crack of dawn, clearing out his desk, and THEN going over to tell Bush he was quitting?
Sounds to me like Goss was RUNNING. Doesn’t it to you folks?
104 106 108, you guys are really starting scare me.
Heavens to Betsy! Nora O’Donnell (please note use of full name) isn’t buying the spin on Goss.
But Rummy “isn’t an intelligence guyâ€
that’s why cheney set up his own shop there
capitol police say - capitol police messed up in the kennedy incident and proper corrective administrative and personnel action has been taken.
At #96, *ilson46201 says
“Pincus on Hardball doesnt think it’s a big deal … that the W.H. was unhappy with his job performance and Goss just tired of being dogged by Negroponte.”
Pincus didn’t bother to run his theory through the smell detector. If his theory was correct, Goss would have been ‘managed out’ in a much more orderly and planned manner.
Oscar says:
May 5th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
#32 aaaargh re: Libby’s latest “defenseâ€â€“
Everyone has got to realize that Team Libby is not interested in the law or in justice. They’re interested in POLITICS. This is a political game with Libby’s future as the side dish. What they’re really doing is trying to muddy the waters so the sheeple and the rightwing media machine have fish to fry. They don’t care if it’s relevant to the case or not.
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Perhaps, but you’d think they’d realize that they’re playing a losing game. Every time they try to muddy the waters, Fitz files a brief clearing them up a bit more.
At #104, bkny says:
“intelligence operations will be controlled by the pentagon.”
To be overseen by Donald “I’m Not In Intelligence” Rumsfeld?
Frank Probst, #41
ROFL