Fitz!!!!!

and a good morning to all!

Fitz Limba, the lying nazi whore

Our justice system is a SICK JOKE.

Redd-
Do you really think Rush will actually have to submit samples? It just seems that people with his position seem to get away without ever being forced to do it.

Cathy — my understanding is that the probation supervisor in Palm Beach County has been on the job for over 15 years, and she doesn’t take any crap from anyone. (I heard this from a reader who lives in the area.) I’d say Rush is going to have to pee in a cup just like everyone else. *g* And that does my heart good. Let him get a taste of how people have to live with the drug laws he’s promoted day in and day out on his show — and see how he likes it. I doubt he’ll change his public tune on his show — his listeners couldn’t stmoach it, but it will be interesting to see if there are any changes. My guess is that suddenly civil liberties issues will matter to him again — remember all that grousing when they seized his medical records? — the first time they show up to do a random check of his house or office.

As Redd or jerilyn said, it’s not just submitting samples, someone has to be in the room with him to witness it. EWWW. Imagine the poor civil servant being given that job! No don’t, it’s too icky.

#4

“Do you really think Rush will actually have to submit samples? It just seems that people with his position seem to get away without ever being forced to do it.”

good question — the last name cases that come to my mind are noelle bush and tom sizemore. they were two would didn’t get away. (which would explain my remembering them.)

He paid $30,000 for this deal. Pocket change for him. No non-wealthy person would have been able to away like this.

Somebody please revoke his credibility card.

I for one am disappointed. I really wanted to see the big guy spend some quality time in prison and then hear his dittoheads rant and rave about that injustice. Oh, well. Peeing in a cup in front of someone will have to do. Does the civil servant who has to watch get hazard duty pay or anything?

www.homelanddecency.com “marching proudly backwards to our future”

Thanks Christy for the post. Being in recovery from all drugs and alcohol requires a healthy dose of honest humility. I’m not hearing of a lot of either honesty or humility from Rush, but I wish him the best in terms of staying clean. My question is one of what the urine test will be for…just the oxycotin or all drugs and alcohol? (And they can test for ALOT of substances each time…)

Well, I think we should amend that phrase, “looks like he’s following the general probation supervision requirements” to “he will have to follow general probation supervision requirements.”

Eighteen months’ worth. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Hypocrisy, thy name is Jeff Christie, er, Rush, er… whatever. :)

$30,000 for rush limblough is under 2 hours of work.

According to the Salary Timer at Monster.com, Rush Limbaugh makes $31 million a year. That equates to roughly $15,500 per hour. So, Rush Limblough can pay off that $30,000 fine in two hours and still have $1000 leftover for more OxyContin. It’s basically a parking ticket for him. Maybe he will be arrested for bribing judges with sexual favors.

Here’s the Salary Timer:
http://content.salary.monster.com/timer/

NeoJoe — they do a broad spectrum test on probationers here in WV — and I would imagine that they do the same in Florida. You don’t want to give an addict an out to do some other substance by only testing for the one that was abused that led to the arrest — so you test for everything. The carrot in this is that he’ll be continuing the addiction counseling — and the testing and supervision constitute a powerful stick if they are done properly. But you are absolutely right that humility and honesty are essential — and I’m not seeing a lot of that publicly, either. (Doesn’t mean it’s not there privately, since the public Rush persona is such a blowhard, but he’s not exactly sounding like he accepts any responsibility by blustering on his show like he did yesterday. Great example for his listeners, eh?)

Maybe he’ll try to get past them with one of those plastic pee-testing dicks. No kidding. There was a case in the US a couple of months ago where someone went into a convenience store and asked them to microwave something wrapped in a paper towel. When a terrible smell was emitted by the microwave, that person fled, leaving the clerk to discover what was a first suspected to be a severed penis. It turned out to be a plastic pee-cheater full of urine. RUSH order for jonesing Mr. Limbaugh?

Let’s hope the motherfucker is hurting. Seriously.

Good Morning Everyone,

Where did I read he may in fact be prohibited from drinking as well ?

what ever happened to the housekeeper ? has she been charged with anything ?

I ask about the drinking b/c that’s definitely a ‘drinker’s face’ in the mug shot

and if the housekeeper is t/b investigated or charged - whoa nelly on the details that could come from that, but I just don’t remember

Washginton Post has Joe Klein on for a live Q&A at 3 pm today

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ml?nav=nsc

Rush, just like Bush, has a core cadre of believers who will always be there to gleefully swallow his “process” no matter what he says or does.

That said….I believe that this episode has and will continue to… haunt and hurt him with a much wider segment of his less devoted drivel drinkers.

OT (”humor” from Powell):

http://www.tampabays10.com/new.....ryid=30166

Powell says the key to Iraq’s success rests with its new government. He says it has to be a government in which the “people have confidence and are willing to trust.”

heh

Some humility and perhaps some acceptance of responsibility on this would be in order for someone under criminal probation supervision.

Redd:

Are you nuts? Humility and responsibility? From the biggest loudmouth wingnut of the bunch.

Have some more coffee…

What my lawyer told me recently is that in Florida most felons do not go directly to jail after court proceedings. They don’t want to warehouse them for one reason, and there also generally appears more revenue for state from probation than cost to state for jailing them. Typically most people in jail in Florida are there for violating probation, which, due to some high-profile cases of late (like Carly Brusca) is very, very stringent. Many probation officers have left the Department as it is even more high-stress of late, and winnowed down to the real pricks.
Of course, this being Jeb Bush’s state they’ll likely go easy on Limbought, but he’s still on probation, and for my almost a daughter-in-law the pee tests were for any banned substance, not just a drug of choice.

So Rush’s argument comes down to out Clinton-ing Clinton? “It all depends on what your definition of ‘arrested’ is”?

It reminds me of that great redefinition enshrined in the old Tom Lehrer song “Plagarism”. After the singer details the reach of his academic theft, he defends the whole mess with the conclusion, “only be sure to call it, please, ‘research’.”

Thank God that the conservatives in this country don’t put up with any ridiculous parsing of verbs. If Rush was an elected official, that could get him impeached! ;)

cbl at 15 — you likely read that here. Usually an alcohol prohibition is a standard part of the probationary supervision. Alcohol is an easily abused substance (despite being legal) and most rehab programs recommend no alcohol along with the no drugs for treatment, so most probation programs adopt that as a recommendation as well to keep folks clean and sober through supervision.

CHS at 5: “My understanding is that the probation supervisor in Palm Beach County has been on the job for over 15 years, and she doesn’t take any crap from anyone.”

I should certainly hope not. It must be bad enough having to take their pee.

Thanks for cracking me up first thing in the morning!

yam at 19 — I didn’t exactly say that it was likely. LOL (But I am having more coffee…)

Thanks Christy…the recidivism rate in recovery from addiction to drugs and alcohol is extremely high. If he has a three martini lunch w/ members of his slop trough buddies and gets called to come in, he is so screwed…

This is no cake walk for an addict or alcoholic, (although it is a sweetheart deal compared with others that get convicted of doctor shopping and possession of controlled substances). It may seem easy for those not afflicted by the disease of addiction, but it is very hard for addicts to stay clean for 18 monthes the first time out of the shoot.

Pee bargaining! Now that’s funny right there.

For as long as I can remember, whenever I hear Rush’s voice, I’ve wanted to shoot the radio in the face.

Another reason to not carry firearms in public . . .

Sorta OT, but is he with Daryn Kagan anymore? Recall reading something somewhere about ex-girlfriend.

what about the physics of his peeing in a cup? it must be tough doing it when you’re sitting down — how on earth could a tubbo like him do it standing up when it’s doubtful whether he could see his johnson? — this morning on stephanie miller i heard a recording of what he said to his listeners & he sounded shaken, as if he was going to burst into tears

bbuster — I heard she dumped him, but then you know how rumors are on the internets. *g*

Oh, Yam @19, didnt’cha know? He belongs to the whole PARTY of personal responsibility. For everyone else. Just not them. Bad liberals. It’s all their fault.

Thanks Christy.

forget for a moment, my abject disgust at the mere mention of this guy - I was raised by tavern owners (waaay before MAD, my mom was the taxi’s driver’s best friend) and as unscientific as it sounds, there’s definitely a look and often times an ‘attitude’ that accompanies someone drinking heavily and regularly - this puke definitely has that look

Good morning all! May Rush get his rushes elsewhere– maybe he’ll develop a taste for the truth; some find the truth intoxicating.

Naaaah.

Appearing on cspan 1 is just one of our country’s worst diplomats — a PNACkian of the highest order and a danger to world peace…John Bolton– title of the house hearing is: United Nations Sanctions
Government Reform, National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations.

Waxman and Kucinich coming up.

whoa– Waxman going out of the gates with Uranium from Niger….

Limbaugh “voluntarily entered” inpatient treatment when he was initially busted. That was, what, two years ago? It was a posh setup, but even those can be strict in the rules their clients are to follow upon discharge. I suppose the judge went through progress reports from that accredited program’s aftercare component.

All such programs would have required Limbaugh to attend Narcotics Anonymous for at least six months after discharge. Had alcohol abuse - usually termed by such programs as more than two to three drinks per day or occasional use of five or more drinks per day - been indicated in his intreatment interviews, he would also be advised to stop drinking forever and to attend Alcoholics Anonymous. He was, of course, advised to stay away from any opiate derivative and other controlled substances viewed as mood elevators.

Most credible treatment professionals would recommend anyone whose combination of oxycontin abuse and manipulation of his staff (the housekeeper who scored thousands of hits for him in parking lots - that item seems to have conveniently disappeared!), would be required to attend multiple NA/AA meetings for at least six months and to apologiize (5th step) to all who had been hurt by the client’s lifestyle and rationalisations.

I listened for that on his radio show in the week’s following his return from treatment, and thought he had done some sort of a very wan apology to his audience. At any rate, the deal with Florida WILL include observed UAs, at the least on a once per month basis, and most likely will at least include weekly NA meetings, if not both NA and AA. People who attend such meetings generally DO NOT talk about what they discuss in the meetings outside of their “group.”

Now speaks about Tyler Drumheller and the efforts by the CIA and Defense and State to set the record straight re uranium. Tune in if you can.

It may be a sweetheart deal — because prosecutors and investigators screwed up and seized your medical records via a search warrant instead of properly using a subpoena, so that they were hamstrung in terms of trial without a cooperating doctor – but you still have a long, long way to go before you are out of the woods on this.

I’m just curious - what has his position been in the past about evidence not being admisable in court due to law enforcement screw-ups like this? I mean, when it applies to other people?

My fantasy is that one of the random tests will happen when he’s on-air.

Wow. Waxman smoked Bolton on the Niger lies and Bolton said he knew nothing of anything while serving as Under Secretary for Arms Control.

Poor Rush. No guns.

Doesn’t he have to avoid consorting with other criminals as well? That would sure leave some political cronies out of the picture in the next year and a half.

Reddhedd - I have always wondered if they can DNA test the urine to make absolutely sure it was from the correct person? It would be a good rumor for Rush to hear about, anyway.

Rush - drugs, of course, I still have the CD - Eric Clapton!

Kucinich:
If the US has combat troops in Iran, is it a violation of the UN charter?

Bolton:
Won’t answer. Ask someone else in the Admin. Pre-emptive war okey dokey.

Is there such a thing as a urine test for addiction to FDL?

Kucinich: Sy Hersh New Yorker article.

Bolton: I have not read the article, nor will I. I don’t have time to read fiction.

K: If I brought it over to you now, would you read it?

B: No.

Shays cuts it off.

angie:

keep it going, please… audio not worth a crap on my thingie.

thx

In a plea deal- usually the defendant has to plead guilty to something. Rush pleaded guilty to NOTHING? I don’t get the whole thing. Anyone help?

OT - What’s new in Weeniwood?

And CIA Executive Director and Brent Wilkes pal Kyle “Dusty” Foggo has admitted attending Wilkes’ parties - but says he didn’t see any prostitutes while playing cards with Wilkes and others.
– Paul Kiel

Does Roland Bumsfeld know about this?
President Rush?
Will eye testing be instituted at the agency?
Were there Booth’s at these sex parties?
If delta invasion plans were discussed were they executable?
And what did the president’s wife think of the play?

Inquiring minds being what they are today.

test

rwcole says:
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:08 am

Didn’t some posts on earlier threads state that it is a deferred prosecution, rather than a plea deal? As you know, what happens to him is contingent upon his successfully completing his treatment program.

Since you play golf, you know what happens when you miss the cup.

Van Hollen: US thumbed its nose wrt to Iraq and we lost crediblitiy re WMDs. Powell’s performance at the UN– he has acknowledged it was a low point in his career, how has this affected you at the UN.

Bolton: We did not thumb our nose at the SC– we did not even have to go to them. There was not a country in that room that did not know what serious consequences meant. The tragedy is that the SC did not follow thru. Re WMD, it was Iraq’s fault because they lied about what they had. blah, blah, blah.

VH: Elbaradei and Blix asked for more time;
there were no WMDs. We are trying to work with the UN under chapter 7 wrt Iran.
Will we undertake unilateral action wrt Iran?

B: Iran’s nuclear program is a threat to peace. The reason to urge a chapter 7 resolution is that it is mandatory for member states. The US, France and Britain are together. China and Russia are not. Hopefully, we will not allow them to dictate our policy.

deferred prosecution.

I was just thinking about “oil addiction”.

I read yesterday that the US has not reduced it’s oil consumption AT ALL since the last big increase in prices. Not a drop. SUV sales are still healthy (although aided by huge buyer incentives).

The media is acting as if the sky is falling- people are supposedly pissed as hell at $3 per gallon gasoline- but not pissed enough to reduce their consumption.

Here’s what you would expect. The recreational use of oil would be the first to go. People would stop driving from one end of lakes to the other all day in big boats that burn ten gallons of gas per hour. People who’s idea of a good time is to take their four wheel drive vehicle out into the desert for the weekend towing a trailer full of gas guzzling motorcyles would find something else to do. Those who’s idea of a vacation is to load up the 4 mpg RV and drive around the country would load up their car instead and stay in a cheap motel.

NONE of this is happening-

Next you would expect some car pooling- reduction in number of trips. Taking trips in the family vehicle that gets the most rather than the worst mileage. None of this is happening either.

There is NO reduction- NONE.

When we read about the crisis- we are told “It’s the MARKET”

Yeah- the market- OPEC meeting and deciding how much production to hold back on. Oil companies deciding how many refineries should be allowed to operate this month. The market.

Adam Smith must be rolling over in his grave.

The invisible hand has big oil stains on it.

But the fact of the matter is- if americans aren’t willing to reduce their consumption, the MARKET will keep raising prices until they DO- just as heroin prices keep rising until they reach a point of resistance.

Americans need to join the Rushman in a twelve step program. We’re hooked.

*WRT Limpballs. Notice the Republican jihad against trial lawyers has mysteriously faded into the background now that Rove, Delay, Libby, Bush, Cheney and the rest are relying on the trial lawyers to save their collective asses from jailtime.

*Bolton is a sick war mongering man. Guess what Johnny Bolton. Russia and China are now going to gang up on the USA. That is how power games are played. Like that turn of fate now?

Try playing your tough man silly games with them. See how they won’t let you get away with being a bully.

It is called a spent wad of capital.

Prick.

*ThinkProgress reports that Bush used to sing the national anthem in Spanish when he was running for Prez. in 1999:

From Kevin Phillips viz TP.

“When visiting cities like Chicago, Milwaukee, or Philadelphia, in pivotal states, he would drop in at Hispanic festivals and parties, sometimes joining in singing “The Star-Spangled Banner†in Spanish, sometimes partying with a “Viva Bush†mariachi band flown in from Texas.”

As Wolfie Blitzer would say, this poor guy can’t get a break.

-GSD

As long as we’re exercising that big German word for taking pleasure at another’s pain, look what I found:

9/11 survivor (sort of) said…
From page 142 of “American Dynasty” by Kevin Phillips:
“George W. Bush . . . would drop in at Hispanic festivals and parties, sometimes joining in singing ‘The Star Spangled Banner’ in Spanish…â€

Waxman: We have lost credibility. I deferred to the administration wrt their case. I understand that your office was involved in the prep of Negroponte’s speech. You had no involvement in the draft of a speech to the UN despite being in charge of nonproliferation?

B: no– I had 600 people working for me.

Waxman: You said you had no involvement with the State Dept fact sheet; the IG says you did. It’s astounding that you were in charge and you deny involvement. I did not clear any of Negroponte’s speeches.

whoops– the last sentence was Bolton’s.

Americans are Whiney Tittie Babies- screaming like stuck pigs when gas prices go up- but unwilling to make ANY sacrafices.

Clusterfuck had us nailed in his approach to the war- to energy- to elections- and we’re too fuckin lazy to LEARN anything. We just want our constitutionally guaranteed right to go to the polls and vote in complete ignorance.

GSD -

we need to find somebody who has video footage of el presidente singing the national anthem in espanol!

The Smithian “invisible hand” has been giving Alan Greenspan a reacharound for the past 18 years.

-GSD

If a film exists- even a home movie- of Clusterfuck singing the anthem in spanish- the dems would pay a few million for it. Cough it up america.

Kucinich:
Has the US notified the UN that we have operations in Iran?

B: Hypothetical

K: Could Iran invoke article 51 if there are troops in Iran.

B: dunno

K: Are you confident in intelligence wrt nuclear site and wrt military action in Iran.

B: We don’t know enough.

GSD, You want to e-mail that Phillips quote to Olbermann or shall I ?

WASHINGTON — Six months before Republicans try to hold on to control of Congress in the fall elections, a new poll shows President Bush has slid to the lowest approval rating of his presidency, and a majority of voters say they’ll vote for Democrats in November.
A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday found Bush’s approval rating at 34%, two points under his previous low. He also received the lowest ratings of his presidency on his handling of the economy, energy and foreign affairs. He tied his previous low on Iraq: 32%.

The poll showed Democrats leading 54%-39% among registered voters who were asked which party they would prefer in a congressional race.

POLL RESULTS:Text of all questions, responses

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the president is not focused on polls but “on achieving results for the American people.”

A spokesman for the House Republicans’ campaign committee, Carl Forti, said unhappiness with Bush doesn’t doom the GOP’s 29-seat House majority because “President Bush is not on the ballot.”

Forti also noted that the poll showed 59% of respondents said their own representative deserves to be re-elected. However, poll data show that’s the lowest percentage since 1994, when Republicans won control of Congress from the Democrats.

Sarah Feinberg, a spokeswoman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said voters are linking Bush’s problems to his GOP colleagues: “The American people want change.”

Since 1950, there have been six times when presidents had Gallup approval ratings below 50% in the spring as their party sought to keep control of Congress. The president’s party lost House seats in all six years, ranging from five in 1968 to 54 in 1994.

A 15-seat switch in November would give the Democrats a majority in the House. A six-seat switch would give Democrats control of the Senate.

The poll comes as the Iraq war and a sharp increase in gasoline prices have contributed to public uneasiness.

Bush has repeatedly said he does not pay attention to opinion polls. At a fundraiser last week for Rep. Jon Porter, R-Nev., he said he wants congressional colleagues “who don’t listen to polls and focus groups but stand strong for what they think we’re doing right.”

“stand strong for what they think we’re doing right.”

What about candidates who stand strong for those things that they think Clusterfuck is doing wrong?

rwcole, 46: “In a plea deal- usually the defendant has to plead guilty to something. Rush pleaded guilty to NOTHING? I don’t get the whole thing. Anyone help?”

FWIW, Limbaugh was charged with prescription fraud, or “doctor shopping,” meaning getting multiple prescriptions from different doctors for the same complaint of “illness.” He apparently avoided indictment by a pre-trial agreement (the “pee bargain”) to undergo testing and monitoring for 18 mos. As Jane suggests, the prosecution may have caved in because their case has been jeopardized by bad evidence gathering.

The $30,000 to “defray” the cost of the investigation is a cruel joke against the taxpayers of Florida. Whatever it cost the state, it must be in the five figures at the very least.

As for Limbaugh, in his own words:

“Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. … And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up,†Limbaugh said on his short-lived television show on Oct. 5, 1995.

During the same show, he commented that statistics that show blacks go to prison more often than whites for the same drug offenses only illustrate that “too many whites are getting away with drug use.â€

Well, Courtesy of the Clusterfuck Administration it looks like th Axis of Evil has beefed up their membership a bit.

It used to be a handfull of third rate powers with not much capacity to project power beyond their regions.

With a little help from Bolton and Bush and the warmongering neo-cons suddenly Russia and China are standing shoulder to shoulder with Iran.

Iran laid down Iraq and Syria and drew Russia and China. Nice hand.

http://english.aljazeera.net/N.....FF328B.htm

-GSD

Lynch: Do you see the irony here, we are trying to get the UN accountable and here you are saying you were not responsible for the fact sheet.

B: It was just a fact sheet– a staff level function.

Van Hollen: The fact sheet was the first public declaration wrt to Iraq WMDs.

It reminds me of that great redefinition enshrined in the old Tom Lehrer song “Plagarismâ€. After the singer details the reach of his academic theft, he defends the whole mess with the conclusion, “only be sure to call it, please, ‘research’.â€

Actually the song is Lobachevsky … Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name! Hey!

The song names a real, honest-to-god mathematical hero. He (and Janos Bolyai) discovered noneuclidean geometries at about the same time in the late-ish 19th Century. Lobachevsky had the misfortune to publish in something like the Lower Siberian Journal of Sylvicultural Statistics, so no one knew what he had actually done until much later.

But Lobachevsky is a great satire. I need to remember to play that for my students on the first day of class when discussing academic honesty.

BC

Gyro.

Go ahead. Maybe I will too.

-GSD

What did they say about Bolton before he got the ambassadorship?

He was a kiss-up, kick down kind of guy.

“It was a STAFF level function”

See, we are Republicans and we never take ownership of things that we fuck up.

-GSD

The only rethug there is Shays.

4 dems– Kucinich, Waxman, Lynch and Van Hollen. I guess the other rethugs are out swimming in the famed river of denial.

Shays: I appreciate you being straightforward. (blech) Blasts Carter, praises Raygun. Never take off the table the threat of military force.

The “Market” is for little people. What the oil companies are doing is colluding with the government and visa versa. This is the definition of fascism.

The oil companies are getting big tax breaks, they were recently exused from paying $7 billion in royalties owed to the US government for drilling on government land.

The $100 bribe to voters is tied directly to the opening of the Alaska wilderness preserve.

Talking Heads who talk about markets, like Rush Limbaugh, are liars. They do the same tap dance with “socialism”. Anything that might benefit the people is “socialism”. Yet, all the senators and congressmen have cradle to the grave healthcare and generous pensions (which is socialism) while the rest of us are subjected to capitalism - whereby we pick ourselves up by the bootstraps and help each other like a thousand points of light - ideally, according to the rethuglicans, with no assistance from the government (ie: Social security, medicare, healthcare).

The oil companies are not the only ones who benefit from fascism. Churches, Military Industrial Complex/defense contractors, and Media Conglomerates are all raking in the dough (and bankrupting the country).

It must be a bitch peeing in a cup when you can’t see the thing that’s doing the peeing.

Bargain Countertenor says:
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:35 am

To add to what you mentioned, I found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.....n_geometry

A hundred years later, in 1829, the Russian Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky published a treatise of hyperbolic geometry. For this reason, hyperbolic geometry is sometimes called Lobachevskian geometry. About the same time, the Hungarian János Bolyai also wrote a treatise on hyperbolic geometry, which was published in 1832 as an appendix to a work of his father’s. The great mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss read the appendix and revealed to Bolyai that he had worked out the same results some time earlier.

I can’t help it, but I just have to say it oer and over again and again, Thank you Christy and Jane for keeping up so many of us up on things. Untangling worms is not the most pleasant thing to do, but it has to be done if anyone is going to catch a fish for dinner!

& GSD - re the new axis of evil & China and Russia standing with Iran. Can’t help but think about that brief pre-9/11 moment when the Chimp looked into Putin’s eyes and met his soul mate shadow-self! Talk about an unconscious communication

GSD, Got that off to Countdown, and threw in Cole’s idea about finding a video. I suggested some sort of reward.

WASHINGTON (MSNBC/AP)- Despite the wall-to-wall coverage of the damage from Hurricane Katrina, nearly one-third of young Americans recently polled couldn’t locate Louisiana on a map and nearly half were unable to identify Mississippi.

Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 fared even worse with foreign locations: six in 10 couldn’t find Iraq, according to a Roper poll conducted for National Geographic…
_____

Bush has a way for ‘em to find out exactly where Iraq is. Iran, too.

rwcole at 46 — what Rush has entered is a plea via a “pre-trial diversionary program.” They’ve become common in first offense drug cases or in very young first offense low level criminal cases as a means to deal with the overpopulation of state prisons and also because sometimes this is more effective when you have someone who really needs help and intervention rather than incarceration. If he fails to successfully complete his 18 months of supervision, look for there to be some criminal liability for him (although I have yet to get a copy of the actual plea deal entered to see for sure on that, that is generally how it is handled). It is unusual, to say the least, to get a deferred prosecution deal — but the screw-up with the record seizure likely had a lot to do with that. (Plus, Roy Black is a really good attorney.) HTH!

God came to Bush and gave him a date for his nuclear confrontation with Iran.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3770815

-GSD

Urine trouble now, Rush.

The right wing is up in arms over a new version of the Star-Spangled Banner written in Spanish. Last week President Bush stated that “the national anthem ought to be sung in English.†Yesterday Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) introduced a resolution requiring the Star-Spangled banner to be sung only in English:

That flag and that song are a part of our history and our national identity. … That’s why in 1931 Congress declared the Star-Spangled Banner our national anthem. That’s why we should always sing it in our common language, English.

In his press release, Alexander said the Star-Spangled Banner has “never before…been rendered in another language.â€

But in 1919, the U.S. Bureau of Education commissioned a Spanish-language version of “The Star Spangled Banner.†The State Department’s website also features four-separate versions of the anthem in Spanish.

It appears xenophobia isn’t part of the American tradition.

Think Progress

5 min recess followed by 2nd panel… a GAO person will appear…

Maybe a peace panel.

punaise–bravo!

Timewarp.

Bush and Pooty Poot are two authoritarian peas in a pod. But Pooty is an honest to goodness badass. He would wipe the floor in a fight with the Chimp in Charge. You can see it in his eyes.

-GSD

“Last week President Bush stated that “the national anthem ought to be sung in English.—

Where does that leave Bush, whose native language is “Mangle-ish”?

I’m impressed the President can sing.

Maybe next, singing his confessions?

If you can find Louisiana- ya oughta be able to find Mississippi- just move yer fingera quarter of an inch to the right.

angie–thank you for liveblogging, though it’s making me grind my teeth. Christ, the contempt. Bolten really does think our elected representatives are beneath him, doesn’t he?

Thanks Redd and others. Guess it really shouldn’t be called a plea bargain?

“With June 6, 2006, rapidly approaching, authorities in Colorado and elsewhere are carefully watching to see if that date - 6/6/06 - spurs demonstrations or violent activity.

They are aware that 666 signifies the Mark of the Beast or the Antichrist to some organizations and believe June 6 is a date that could trigger problems…”

Moronic.

Completely OT:

If this report about Plame on the trail of Iranian WMD is true, doesn’t this really shoot down any attempts at sabre-rattling? I mean, if this story gathers momentum (and with a popularity hovering near freezing, all the more likely), wouldn’t it be difficult to square the two?

I mean, in wingnuttia anything’s possible, but if your Right hand man is under considerable scrutiny for the possible crime of disclosing an agent of the CIA and then the story comes out that that agent was working on tracking the weapons of a nation that you want really, really badly to invade, it can’t help your cause much.

It does add new impetus to the investigation though. It could stimulate a lot more interest in the public in general since this ties the lies, the war, bad faith dealing and basically sticks this President’s feet in a fresh new bucket of concrete.

For the 2% of the remaining fans of the President who still believe that Iran is a threat, this should really pull the blinders off of their eyes. Mr. Credibility is soon to be really dead and gone if Raw Story and Shuster are correct. Nixon numbers can’t be far behind. I want 27% popularity for my birthday in August.

I’m full of popcorn. I want champaigne!

Why don’t the neocons understand that the “American Culture” is one of MULTICULTURALISM?

Best Pee joke I know, and a true story by the way:

During the Vietnam War a merchant marine was at the urinal in a bar in San Diego. In walks a marine and starts to relieve himself. The merchant marine finishs his business, and starts to exit the head, when the marine calls out, ” In the marines, we always wash our hands after we take a piss.
The merchant marine replies,” In the merchant marine we don’t piss on our hands.”

Yeah- the american dream is multiple cultures locked in a common ignorance.

“If this report about Plame on the trail of Iranian WMD is true, doesn’t this really shoot down any attempts at sabre-rattling?”

Since when did facts and logic have ANY effect on BushCo decisions? Had rationality prevailed, we’d never have had this asshole put into office in the first place.

rwcole — no, it is a plea bargain. This is what you legally do to dispose of your pending criminal charges — he still has outstanding charges hanging out there unless and until he completes his 18 months of probationary supervision. It’s a plea, pure and simple. I’ve done a number of these sorts of deals (none of which were prosecution deferred, mind you), the vast majority of which ended up with probation violations and revocations. We’ll see with Rush. 18 months is a long time.

punaise says: “Urine trouble now, Rush.”
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:46 am

He will be in even more trouble if he doesn’t keep his end of the pee bargain.

rw cole(#52):

my brother forwarded me an idea the other day that might be worth a try:

target EXXON MOBIL. simply do not buy from them. eventually they will feel the pain and start reducing price. others will have to follow.

this message came as a chain letter. you’re suppose to forward it to ten people you know, etc. i HATE chain letters. but this one really has merit.

skeptics can shoot it down, no doubt, but screw them.

we need to get back into the “merry prankster” mode and make some noise that isn’t just noise.

what was that book that bill maher wrote a couple of years ago? “when you ride alone you ride with bin laden”. a simple idea, and worthwhile.

some of our thinkers need to develop ideas that are practical, not very complicated and don’t put people in moral/cultural dilemmas. for instance, the immmigrant marches. they’re really impressive. and non-violent. yet scary for the wingnuts. the nutty buddies are angry but you don’t get that feeling from the marchers.
we cannot depend on the politicians. we have to lead. that’s how ghandi did it, and martin. it’s one thing to want to make change. we have to find a way that is really positive. how can we spread our zeal and passion to the public? we can bypass all of the political machinery and become the movers and the shakers if we find that leverage point. i get discouraged when people start internet bar fights over who they want for the democratic presidential nomination and especially who they don’t want. we’re not united on that. this may end up really hurting us no matter who gets nominated. we can look for something that we can agree on and work from there. then. who gets the leadership role will be less of a divisive issue.

Rush only uses his pee brain.

BobbyG:

Granted, that’s why the caveat with the “anything can happen in wingnuttia,” but now there will many more eyes and ears paying attention. They like to operate in secrecy and the cleasing properties of daylight may make their attempts at rescuing the R’s chances by war with Iran, uh, difficult.

Or so is my naive hope, anyway…

Control of the “National dialogue” is being exercised by the powers that be. Instead of domestic prying and the outing of a cia noc, we talk about immigration. Instead of a clusterfuck of a WOT, we talk about gay marriage, instead of 500 bil deficit we talk about Lacrosse, and now we’re worried about the National anthem in spanish. (Which George Bush used to sing in spanish.) The immigration issue is the same as its always been and requires no immediate solutions. It is not an emergency. (Now getting a video of W singing the National Anthem in Spanish - is an emergency).

Fahr–Yeah I got the e-mail too. Seems as if I got an identical one last year. Exxon Mobile didn’t suffer much in the interim.

I’m about to give up on americans doin anthing smart regarding energy. They are so easily pandered to. They should start by kicking every gooper out of congress- but they won’t.

here’s a wish for recidivism…

Steve,

1829? I’m really getting into late stage CRS… I really thought Bolyai and Lobachevsky were later than that.

But, yeah, they both got ****ed over by Gauss. Gauss already had enough mathematics for any five mortal mathematicians to his name. He worked it out, and didn’t have the balls to publish. He should have let the guys who did have the stones to publish have the credit. His notebooks would have been found later, and his work would have been known.

BC

bobby (#90):

well, if hitler’s birthday gets action, 6/6/06 could do it too……..

How can the world take a country seriously who:

Bitches screams and moans about energy costs and refuses to reduce consumption by even ONE GALLON of gas for the whole fuckin country?

Last fall various polls asked people what they were going to do to use less gasoline- and people mentioned all sorts of things- BUT THEY DIDN’T DO ANY OF EM.

2ND panel has Christoff–GAO, Carne Ross, George Lopez opening statements. Sanctions failed on Iraq because member states did not enforce and monitor them. They point out the tremendous suffering of the Iraqi people and the hypocrisy in the application of sanctions and security council resolutions.