Emptywheel stopped by yesterday and made an important addendum to the Rove timeline: the day before Matt Cooper testified in July 2005, it sure as hell looks like Gold Bars Luskin was trying to coach his testimony in the press. I'll change the timeline to reflect this, but just to give a quick overview of what "innocent" Karl Rove's attorney was doing during the summer of 2005:
June 27 -- The Supreme Court refuses to hear Matt Cooper's appeals; it's the end of the road, and Cooper will now have to testify or go to jail.
June 30 -- Time Magazine agrees to hand over Cooper's notes to Fitzgerald.
July 1 -- Lawrence O'Donnell on the McLaughlin Group claims the primary Plame leaker was Rove.
July 2 -- Luskin admits to Newsweek that Rove was interviewed by Cooper, but won't say what happened in the conversation. He says Rove “did not tell any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA."
July 4 -- Luskin on CNN: "Karl did nothing wrong. Karl didn’t disclose Valerie Plame’s identity to Mr. Cooper or anybody else … Who outed this woman? … It wasn’t Karl."
July 6 -- Matt Cooper is on his way to jail when Luskin tells the Wall Street Journal: "If Matt Cooper is going to jail to protect a source....it’s not Karl he’s protecting." Cooper's attorney seizes on that as a waiver. Luskin is surprised when Cooper appears before the judge and says he has "an express personal release from my source."
July 9 -- Luskin confirms to Newsweek that Rove was Cooper's source. They report that the email sent by Cooper indicated Rove said "Wilson's wife" worked for the CIA and authorized his trip. It's clear that when Luskin asserted on July 2nd that Rove never said "Valerie Plame" worked for the CIA he was being legalistic and intentionally deceptive.
July 11 -- Luskin tells the Washington Post that Rove discussed Plame with Cooper but did not "name" her.
July 12 -- According to Matt Cooper, the day before he testified, Luskin went around and told reporters that when he [Cooper] "telephoned Rove that July, it was about welfare reform and that I suddenly switched topics to the Wilson matter....But I can’t find any record of talking about it with him on July 11, and I don’t recall doing so."
July 13 -- Cooper testifies.
July 16 -- AP is shown a copy of the Hadley email, in which Rove claims that Cooper called to talk to him about welfare reform (he hadn't).
July 29 -- Rove aides Susan B. Ralson and Israel Hernandez testify before the grand jury.
Sometime in July -- Following Cooper's testimony, Rove volunteers to come in and testify for the fourth time.
Jeralyn has previously outlined what must happen to recant one's erroneous testimony before the grand jury:
Where, in the same continuous court or grand jury proceeding in which a declaration is made, the person making the declaration admits such declaration to be false, such admission shall bar prosecution under this section if, at the time the admission is made, the declaration has not substantially affected the proceeding, or it has not become manifest that such falsity has been or will be exposed.
Rove's desire for precious moments before the grand jury always seemed to be motivated by the fact that new evidence was coming to light that would be quite damning. I just do not know how those who continue to assert he will skate do so with a straight face.
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omg — fitz!!
fitz!!
ok tsf just this once i’ll let you have the fitz.
well, fecund is still good enough for me!
The 12 hours on 9/30, when Abu called Andy Card and told him about the investigation, and told him he didn’t need to notify others, will end up being the most important time period in this saga. That 12 hours is the Rose Mary Woods moment, and why Andy Card will be the next indictee (WAG)…
just this once !! ha!
Fitz!!
Okay, so Rove’s toast. He’s gone, even if we’re just waiting for the official notice and exit date.
Who will lead the Preznit around?
What does a blind person do when the guide dog is gone?
Thank the Goddesses/Gods for a new thread; each time tried to type on the last one I was sent to TPM.
Regarding the Andrea Mitchell matter. Either Libby told her, too, which means Libby loses, or he didn’t tell her anything, which means she didn’t tell Russert, which means Libby loses. Why does the defense care about this?
Abramoff, so I have just been informed by a friend, made over 200 visits
to the WH and this info is going to be released. So both W. and Scotty
should be appearing with pants on fire any day soon.
Has everyone given up on the idea that Rove might have flipped (a deal in exchange for evidence against Cheney, etc.)? I personally hope TurdBlossom is denied any deal and goes down in flames as he should, and I don’t think Fitz would want to line up with this lying sleazeball.
manifest falsity — false testimony made manifest –
The Fitz Rove dance begins to come in focus. Perjury? Obstruction? The underlying crime, of outing a secret agent?
Rove is a clever fellow, and Fitz is a diligent prosecutor. How it will play out remains to be seen . . .
Christy is doing late nite tonight, she’ll have an analysis of the Libby filing. She thinks some of it is valid, but much of it is desperation.
On what date did Luskin Rove rediscover the Hadley email? I think that’s critical if you’re going to look at shaping testimony.
Mike
OT - director of planning for the Joint Chiefs seems to be taking a shot at keeping us out of a disaster by publically commenting (god bless) that invading Iran might not be a great idea. He keeps it respectful and in bounds, but he’s one more guy lining up on the “letsgotheotherway” tug of war team.
http://tinyurl.com/r7dut
It sure would be a tough choice in my book, Cheney or Rove??? If Cheney goes, then Rove wears the mark of the squeeler! Right?
jinny @ 11
Mwaahaha!
tsf, ok maybe twice. I’m offline :( for the next four days. Please save the nation while I’m doing the mom stuff.
Slothrop # 8– a blind person would follow the guide dog wherever he leads… like to jail.
“Where, in the same continuous court or grand jury proceeding in which a declaration is made,”
Does this mean each individual GJ session Rover testified at….or all 5 of his GJ appearances considered a same continuous GJ proceeding?
Ghostman
slothrop at 8: Who will lead the Preznit around?
Exactly. My son asked me if I thought Rove should resign, I had mixed feelings. Cheney should resign, Rumsfeld don’t get me started, but if Rove resigns what is Bush capable of wrecking?
R/T Mary #16~
When is Bolton’s term over? Does it last as long as Bush’s? I know he was placed in the UN during a break in Congress, yes?
But when can we count on his being gone?
jinny, same here. Sent Jane and Christy a note because trying to post sends you to TPM. It’s #15 in the last thread, and #14 in the Women Unite thread. Both have unclosed tags.
Seriously, though. W. did not get where he is without an entire team of enablers. Rove is the most media hyped, but methinks there are many behind the wizard. Babs comes to mind…
OT–in case the relevant mark shows up
One of the marks (I think markfromireland, but if it was marksb or marky my apologies) noted on earlier Iran threads that it was worth watching bomber command promotions. There have been some recently in the 509th (B-2) command.
http://catdynamics.blogspot.co.....omber.html
Not sure what to make of it. Maybe nothing. If you’re around mark, hope you find it interesting.
The July 6 entry above makes me laugh out loud every time I read it.
Jane, over at Kos there is a top rated diary by “dccitizen” asking some very “Cunningham-esque” questions about Karl’s finances and how he supports a 1.5 million dollar pad in Washington, a Million dollar vacation wig-wam in Walton County, Florida, and a little cabin in Texas, valued at around 51,000 dollars that Rove considers home for voting purposes, I gather.
Karl makes somewhere around 161,000 dollars with his Federal Salary, and though he once owned a very profitable campign and mail list operation, the octopus like dispersal of Rove’s businesses in order to satisfy both to satisfy bush and for elimination of appearances of conflict of interest.
This throws a new monkeywrench into the Rove machine.
In addition to the traitorous release of Plame’s name for political revenge, now it looks like Rove is as filthy as a turd in the financial ethics area too.
How smart is this guy to leak an agent’s name for political revenge, hurting the nation in the process, but also to be dirty in money too? What arrogance posesses guys like Rove? Is it criminal insanity? They have so much to offer, and then blow it all like some Russian knight-errant who throws it all away for a kiss and vodka, what ailes characters like Rove?
Is it power? Or, just the thrill?
You were/are in the law Jane, what gives with Rove-like characters.
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i.....izza072505
Jane- I found this earlier today. I poked around a lot trying to track down one part (below). Then I realized that you had written about the article before on FDL. http://firedoglake.blogspot.co.....-ship.html
For anyone who wants to access the Nat Rev article, the first time I clicked on it, the whole thing appeared. But, when I went back to it, I got only part of it, with info that I had to sign up free to read. Finally figured to clear my cookies, and got the whole thing back. (Info one might need).
Anyway, this part of the article stated more specifically what was in the related WaPo article-
===Luskin then went virtually silent for seven months. But, on Saturday, July 2, Newsweek posted an online story naming Rove as the source Cooper had kept secret for two years. In the piece, Luskin first unveiled Rove’s new defense. The strategist “never knowingly disclosed classified information,” and “he did not tell any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA,” Luskin insisted. The first statement was standard legal obfuscation. The arcane statute making it a crime to blow a CIA operative’s cover emphasizes that the deed must be done knowingly. Luskin’s second statement seemed like a blanket denial. But, on July 9, when Newsweek revealed an e-mail between Cooper and his editor stating that Rove mentioned Joe Wilson’s wife, rather than Valerie Plame, the press realized that it was actually a weasely Clintonism.==
This is a trivial point, but I couldn’t find anything about Newsweek revealing on July 9 an email, and not with this level of detail. (Not contesting the contents—)
Leslie - I’m not sure. He was a recess appointment and I think that should mean he only gets a year until he has to go back through the regular process, but I’d have to dig for dates and authority. Wouldn’t it be nice if he came back with a Congress that might actually subpoena info on his letters?
nah - never happen.
IMO, we have Bolton until at least 2008 bc 2006 is not shaping up to be any kind of landslide for Dems (the “we don’t suck as much as the fornigators” theme being something shy of a huge GOTV effort). I tend towards a pessimistic view though.
jinny 11 — 200+? That would be even with Scotty being so careful today to say the SS logs might not show ALL his trips. Hmmm.
Maybe Fitzgerald has been hanging out the possibility of a light deal, or even immunity, while using Karl’s (apparently inbred) cleptic urges to mendacity and word-parsing against him. It seems like Fitz has been squeezing Rove like a lemon and not letting him out of the blender. Karl is happy to play this game, and has even used Fitz and the process to buy precious time, but he needs to cough up an awfully big hairball to keep stalling any further.
Who would Karl not give evidence on to avoid going to jail? And to help the GOP out in the November elections. Cheney and the neocons are millstones to the party…they do not adversely effect the voting base if jettisoned, they could reverse the slide. The paleocons would rejoice, the theocons will take it as another sign the rapture draws nigh, and Congressional Repugs will be turn cartwheels with call girls in the streets. The government could go back into its shadow, how neat that would be.
Something tells me that Rover will never let Fitz have the satisfaction of winning. He’d pull a Vince Foster before he’d let that happen, or pull some stunt that throws the whole chessboard in the air. That’s what his kind does when you beat them at their specialty, because it destroys their ego.
Bolton early 07 iirc.
absolutely on target egregious
From CNN:
The recess appointment puts Bolton in the job until a new Congress takes office in January 2007.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITI.....pointment/
Puke Rove is goin’ DOWN. I hope they can get to Cheney as well.
Minimally. His Serene Exaltedness Bushiavelli would be best of all.
WASHINGTON, May 2 (NY Times) — A Republican proposal to provide taxpayers with a $100 rebate to compensate for higher fuel prices appeared all but dead today as leading congressional Republicans said it had quickly run out of gas.
“I just think that trying to satisfy voters with a $100 voucher is insulting,” said Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the House majority leader. “Over the weekend, I heard about it from my constituents a few times. They thought it was stupid.”
Other Republicans in the House and Senate did not mince words either.
“It was a silly idea,” said Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona, a member of the Republican leadership, who predicted that the rebate would not be in the final energy package when it reaches the floor…
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Frist fristfucked his own Bad Self with this one. LOL!. Yeah, Bill you’re really Presidential leadership material. Better stick with neurological telemedicine, sluggo.
VG — they’re talking (I believe) about the July 18 issue of Newsweek; in my archives I have the article appearing online on July 10, but it’s possible it appeared on the 9th and people didn’t start writing about it until the 10th, because that’s when I remember all the action happening. I’ll see if I can find it in Technorati.
OT, but didn’t get to the Protest Music thread in time. Since I feel so strongly that y’all should be listening to good music (and Jerry & Old And In The Way certainly are good) I am cross posting.
Afrobeat music will appeal to most anyone who likes funk/soul/groove, and many dance and jazz fans. Afrobeat is also some of the most political music around, and an amazing outlet in these depressing and enraging times. Antibalas and Aphrodesia are incredibly hardworking bands with 10+ musician members who make very little $$$. You will find the tunes fantastic and the political content cathartic.
===============
Fela Kuti is the best protest music ever, period.
Aphrodesia, an SF-based Afrobeat band (lots of percussion and brass) has several incredible songs on their new album “Frontlinesâ€. I suspect many FDL participants and lurkers would love this. I just know sharkbabe would.
www.aphrodesia.org/FrontLines.htm
Antibalas, an NYC-based Afrobeat collective has two albums “Who Is This America?†and “Government Magic†which are sure to please.
http://www.antibalas.com/
But if you really want to tap the roots of protest music, you need to hear Fela albums like “No Agreementâ€, “Shuffering and Shmilingâ€, and of course - Authority Stealingâ€
Pachacutec: worth reading Brad De Long’s brief take on net neutrality. He doesn’t seem to favor it.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/.....bbyis.html
Bolton’s good until the next Congressional session, at which point he must be confirmed or turned down. His fate depends on Fitz.
All things BoltOn from Steve Clemons The Washington Note, my first blog experience.
If this works, my first successful html thingie. :D Woo! Woo!
Hmmmmm, when you lay it all out like this, it sure smells like roasting turkey. Is it this close to Fitzmas again already? I haven’t done any of my shopping, yet!
VG PS — I have a New Republic subscription (I know, it’s painful to admit, but I actually like a lot of Ryan Lizza’s stuff). I just sent you a copy of that article.
“New Republic”? Are you old enough to remember “Ramparts”? (I’m dating myself)
DeLong says he has no opinion:
I don’t know enough about “net neutrality” to have an opinion, other than that Telco regulation is incredibly complicated.
How anyone could construe that as opposition is beyond me.
MarcLord #31~
I hope you were trying to be funny when you said Rove would “pull a Vince Foster”. I have not known of a sociopath to suicide because he was exposed. or defeated. Sociopaths usually spend their time blaming others for their failures. That doesn’t allow them to take their own lives, there is nothing in it for them.
Some of them actually do go to prison, and when they get out, they continue to blame others and go right back to the kind of behavior they had prviously engaged in.
O/T - on my website link pic, what’s with the dude in yellow, giving a left-handed salute? I didn’t see that right away.
BobbyG you dont need to date yrself, youre married :) Sure I remember ramparts.
To all—-freep opportunity Glenn’s book and Kos’ book on amazon, order ONE copy of each to support ratings if you like that sort of thing. Ordering more than one copy does not help, they count # orders, not # copies.
When Neanderthal Boner says something is stupid, well, you know, it’s pretty much fucking stupid.
OT - director of planning for the Joint Chiefs seems to be taking a shot at keeping us out of a disaster by publically commenting (god bless) that invading Iran might not be a great idea.
Mary#16:
fucking a — this does not reassure me at all. if the director of planning for the fucking joint chiefs is going public with that type of statement, it means plans are very serious and in play. but then we already knew there have been spooks in country working up targetting sites for months now. somebody with a goddamned reality check better grab that suitcase from that insane sonofabitch now.
and speaking of insanity — anybody else find truly disturbing the name of the megabomb planned for detonation june 2: DIVINE STRAKE.
the ‘divine’ reference is a tad too reverential for my tastes.
egregious -
LOL! As I typed that and hit ‘Enter’ I thought, ‘dude, you just laid that one wide open…’
:)
De Long says:
The argument against “net neutrality” is that it is a form of rate regulation, and even good rate regulation tends to turn very bad over time–witness the ICC–and I tend to think that that is a good argument.
Divine Strake -
Yep. 700 tons of conventional explosive stuff gonna be set off here underground at NTS just up outa Vegas (where I live) on June 2nd. I may drive up to the campground up on Mount Charleston, which has a good view out toward the Test Site from 8,400 ft.
Saw a pic of the blast tunnel in our paper yesterday.
You want to get a taste of what Bush will be like without Rove?
Look at the past week or so since Rove has been all wrapped up in saving his bloated ass from Fitzgerald and the Grand Jury.
Bush just keeps saying and doing the most unadulteratedly butt-STUPID shit, decidedly moreso than usual. Look for it to just get worse and worse.
Thank you to Mary, egregious,Knut W,angie and anyone I missed wrt Bolton’s term … The sooner we get him out of there, the better I’ll feel about it. He is as dangerous to the welfare of US as anyone - imho.
masaccio:
He says that, but introduces his thoughts by decalring his position of no position.
You’re being dishonest. Or you lack reading comprehension.
Isn’t it pretty obvious by now that Rove’s real concern is the jury of public opinion, not Patrick Fitzgerald’s jury? He is simply trying to rehabilitate his image. He will never spend a single day in jail and he knows it. But he wants a clear public image so he can spend the rest of his life running the GOP machine.
I posted this on the last timeline thread, but reading TeddySanFran’s comment #5 got me thinking that it may be eevn more important than I realized (italics mine):
– MarkusQ
masaccio -
The concern is eventual content regulation. All we have to do is ruminate of the current state of the corporatized MSM.
Hi Leslie, hell no, I don’t really think Rove will pull a Vince Foster (not by himself anyway). You’re right–he’s a sociopath and a narcissist, not sure in which order, and they tend to shoot other people. I do think that’s what he’s telling himself as a motivational device: “I’ll pull a Vince Foster before I let that Elliott Ness beat me.” And the thought crossed my mind that he might be set up as a “suicide.” That might sound crazy, but far stranger things have happened. Mostly, I meant that Karl is prepared to go to any lengths to not let Fitz win.
MarkusQ — I’m not sure it’s directly related but it very well may be so I’ll add it to the timeline, thanks very much.
I gotta buy me one of those cable TV adapter cards for my PC, so I can watch stuff like Hardball, Keith, etc (or the Laker-Suns game about to come on) in a screen window and continue to nurse my FDL jones.
Little trip to Fry’s is in order.
Bobby “The Babe” G 46
Perhaps the guy was trying to hide his face from being a part of the travesty.
Do you suppose that he had a ghost writer? Certainly looks as if Fox and Bolton are going to be hammering the UN.
FOX reporter Eric Shawn’s book “The U.N. Exposed,” which is partied to morrow at Elaine’s, says things like: “The U.N.’s terrorism record? Two years before 9/11 the Security Council demanded the Taliban turn over bin Laden. The resolution carried as much weight as Cleveland’s Kiwanis Club. Six months before 9/11 Kofi Annan met Taliban reps but, publicly, would say only, ‘I don’t want to go into that.’ After 9/11, the U.N. established terrorism committees. One chairman wouldn’t even condemn it. Now Iran violates Security Council demands . . . and diplomats still owe our city $19 million in unpaid parking tickets.”
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/cindy/cindy.htm
egregious~ your link worked !! thank you.
And while Rove was otherwise occupied, Hu Jintao gave W. the proverbial finger and flew straight to Saudi Arabia to strengthen their trade agreements… funny how W. has so much say-so. He then flew on to Morocco, Nigeria and Kenya. oh and btw, Saudi Arabia is investing 4 billion US buckaroos in the Indonesian oil sector… “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.”
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/in.....&GRP=D
>>>>>>
Thanks Jane- that was quick (July 9). I’ve been trading off reading here and grading exams (deadlines…). And, BTW, that whole article and your earlier FDL article is great, bec. it gives such an insight into Luskin- loose lips indeed!
Rove’s zigs and zags with Fitzgerald and the grand jury establish beyond a reasonable doubt that he is manipulative, has much to hide, and he’s hiding the truth behind a veil of feigned willingness to assist Fitzgerald and the grand jury discover the truth.
Rove could ill afford to present himself to the grand jury as a master manipulator who can’t be trusted. That’s his reputation, however, and he worked hard to earn it, didn’t he? Well, he should take a few minutes to acquaint himself with Rule 404(b) of the Federal Rules of Evidence because this rule permits the prosecution to introduce evidence of Rove’s prior bad acts during Rove’s trial, if they show that he commits dirty tricks for political advantage, and lies about it. Fitzgerald’s only problem developing this line of attack is that there is too much dirt on Rove. He will have difficulty settling on only two, or three of Rove’s legendary misdeeds.
If any trial juror is inclined to believe Rove’s bullshit I-forgot defense, they’ll certainly change it when they hear about some of Rove’s shenanigans from his victims. Their stories aren’t pretty and no one on the jury will be disposed to believe Rove about anything when they witness the trail of tears that Rove left in his opportunistic, vicious, and amoral pursuit of power.
Whatever slim chance Rove had to extricate himself from the mess that he created depended on him convincing Fitzgerald and the grand jury that he’s a straight shooter. He sealed his own doom by playing games regarding his conversation with Cooper, a conversation that no reasonable person in his position would have forgotten, and if they had, they would have corrected the false information as soon as they discovered that it was false.
Methinks the gentleman did talk too much without appropriate regard for the well known principle that actions speak louder than words.
He’s done. Somebody stick a fork in him.
OMG, now I got FOUR women at FDL callin’ me “babe.” LOL!!!
Not Quite Dead Yet…
On a serious note, I’m readin’ this Salon interview at the moment with James Carroll, about the Pentagon war bureaucracy. Check this out:
“…George H.W. Bush was the last to say that the atomic bomb saved us a couple million casualties. I lay out how the numbers of casualties became part of the myth.
One of the things that revisionist historians have pointed out with some convincing detail is that the Japanese were ready to surrender by the summer of 1945, and there was ambivalence, especially on the part of those in the defense establishment who wanted to see the atomic bomb used, about receiving the Japanese surrender signals. One of the great questions raised by revisionist historians is whether America’s intentions in the summer of 1945 had shifted from Japan to Russia. We wanted to use the bomb to intimidate Moscow, to make sure that Moscow understood that we were to be reckoned with.
I take some pains to play out the complicated historical debate on both sides, and I reach my own conclusion, which was that the bomb was unnecessary. It’s a pointed debate that is unknown to most Americans. Most Americans don’t know, for example, that General Eisenhower opposed the use of the atomic bomb…”
We maybe nuked Japan to throw a big Crips Gang Sign at Russia? Yeah, and today we got the Shock & Awe crowd, and chickenhawk cheerleaders like Ledeen - the wingut policy Eminem.
I need another drink.
You know things are bad when Pat Buchanan is worried about Bush’s push to war with Iran:
“Does President Bush have, or not have, the authority to take us to war with Iran? Because Bush and the War Party are surely behaving as though this were an executive decision alone.”
[snip]
“It is time for Congress to tell President Bush directly that he has no authority to go to war on Iran and to launch such a war would be an impeachable offense. Or, if they so conclude, Congress should share full responsibility by granting him that authority after it has held hearings and told the people why we have no other choice than another Mideast war with a nation four times as large as Iraq.”
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/.....48445.html
Freaky.
Leslie # 54– You are oh so right about Bolton. I watched him today in front of Shays’ subcommittee and he was downright pugnacious and thoroughly untrustworthy… suprise. He is saturated with the founding scent of PNAC.
MarcLord #59
Didn’t the mob sometimes “sacrifice” people when the heat was on?
GSD This time memory has been lost in the “Foggo of whoresâ€.
Snork/snark :D
Considering Ralston and Hernandez’s Grand Jury testimony was on July 29, a Friday, it’s safe to say that unless it happened on the same day, it happened before they testified. Since they hadn’t yet testified when Rove voluntarily made his 4th GJ visit, I think their appearance probably exposes him to a devastating blow from the flank. Perhaps it stands to reason Fitzgerald wouldn’t bring Ralston and Hernandez to the GJ at that time unless it served a decisive parry and lunge to Roves defensive rolling disclosures.
Bobby G- C? gets back tomorrow? Are you gonna fess up about your Bobby the Babe adventures? Send me some hugs- long slog to the finish on grading stuff.
VG–{{{hugs}}} good luck!
Bobby G. come on, you’re falling down on the job… I hate seeing a deserving person waiting, waiting, waiting for hugs.
VG– did you get my emails?
Just a lurker saying thanks for all the effort doing the analysis in this sordid affair. I have followed this story from the beginning, but all the twists and turns have made it hard for me to keep all the dates in my head. So thanks again!
Also, I read somewhere on a earlier FDL thread (I think) that Fitz told Rove he wouldn’t decide on charges for at least 10 days. Does anyone know whether that start date was last Wednesday or Friday? Just trying to figure out whether I should stick close to the TV on Friday or not….
Valley Girl says:
May 2nd, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Bobby G- C? gets back tomorrow? Are you gonna fess up about your Bobby the Babe adventures? Send me some hugs- long slog to the finish on grading stuff.
____
Hugs 2U ((((((*!*))))))
xoxoxo
Yeah, Da Squeeze returns from a wet week in Milwaukee tomorrow evening. BobbyG is SO ready.
http://www.bgladd.com/Bobby_and_Cheryl.jpg
She’s a hottie at 56, I tell ya.
I’ll have to tell that I’m now an FDL “babe”!
;)
mason, i hope you’re right.
can you imagine anyone coming forward as a character witness for Rove? would that be like speaking up for snidely whiplash?
Oh, and I like emptywheel’s suggestion on earlier timeline that email to Levin allowed Fitz to access emails of a similar time frame, independent of Rove offerings.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9866529/site/newsweek/
===Two sources close to Rove who asked not to be identified because the probe is ongoing said that Luskin presented evidence that gave the prosecutor “pause.” One item was a July 11, 2003, e-mail that Rove sent former White House press aide Adam Levine, saying Levine could come up to his office to discuss personnel. The e-mail was at 11:17 a.m., just minutes after Rove had gotten off the phone with Matt Cooper—the same conversation (in which White House critic Joe Wilson’s wife’s work for the CIA was discussed) that Rove originally failed to disclose to the grand jury. Levine, with whom Rove often discussed his talks with reporters, did immediately go up to see Rove. But as Levine told the FBI last week, Rove never said anything about Cooper.===
Isikoff article. Okay. Rover never said anything about Cooper. Hope someone from Team Fitz asked if he mentioned “Wilson’s wife”.
angie, cut me some slack. I had to go pre-heat the oven, stir the rice, pour some more Shiraz, and put the Lakers game on.
*g*, BobbyG– slack granted, babe. Whatcha making?
angie -
Baked cod & stuff. Made meatballs & linguine last night.
Enjoy, and hope you have enough energy after a week of bachelor living to cook for your sweetie.
VG
Do you think Levine was a red herring?
Reading “one item” leads me to think there was another item.
OfT: First I have heard that anyone dug up quotes from the WH that Bush invaded Iraq to depress the price of oil. HARDBALL Transcript for 1 May 2006
Matthews: “Here is the chief economic adviser of the president advising on the benefits which will come from—no one will say we went to war because of oil by itself. He says the key issue was oil, to repeat him, and a regime change in Iraq would facilitate an increase in world oil and that means cheaper oil for us.
Isn’t that in fact the word of the president, his chief economic adviser, that Wolfowitz coming out in making the case for war. We know that Paul was quite a hawk, making the case for war by saying don’t worry about all of the costs after this war because their own oil over there in Iraq is going to pay for it. These don’t add up today, do they? Are they still true or are they inoperative?”
200 visits to the WH by Abramoff? Is that for real?
“Something tells me that Rover will never let Fitz have the satisfaction of winning. He’d pull a Vince Foster before he’d let that happen, or pull some stunt that throws the whole chessboard in the air. That’s what his kind does when you beat them at their specialty, because it destroys their ego.”
Suicide? hmmm, Maybe. I think he’s too much of a pussy to even take his own life. Remember he’s yet another in a long line of chickenhawks. If he was subjected to 1/10 of what went down at Abu Graib, he’d squeal like a stuck pig!
“Antibalas and Aphrodesia are incredibly hardworking bands with 10+ musician members who make very little $$$. You will find the tunes fantastic and the political content cathartic.”
They’re here tomorrow night - you might have sold me on going.
angie -
Cheryl and I been together 32 years, and in all of that time I’ve done most of the cooking. Kitchen wizard, I am. In fact, when she’s home and wants to cook, I have this recurrent weird proprietary feeling, like ‘whut’re you doin? Bitch, git the f* outa my kitchen…’
;)
When she gets home from work, supper is on the table. Routinely. I’ve ruined her.
OK, back to the Carroll interview:
http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/05/03/carroll/
It’s really worth a read.
BobbyG, just read that your father lost a leg and two brothers in WWII. My point is that with our war of aggresion in Iraq/Iran, we are causing families to suffer 60 years FROM NOW.
“If he was subjected to 1/10 of what went down at Abu Graib, he’d squeal like a stuck pig!”
Exactly. All these Big Swingin’ Dick “take the gloves off” dudes would be squallin’ for Momma after about 2 minutes of the shit they endorse.
I commented on De Long’s post as follows:
“”The argument against “net neutrality” is that it is a form of rate regulation, and even good rate regulation tends to turn very bad over time–witness the ICC–and I tend to think that that is a good argument.”
The ICC made a lot of sense when it first came into effect, when railroads were destroying farmers. See, The Pit, by Upton Sinclair. Maybe later it didn’t, when there were alternatives.
The cables are just pipelines. Why should they profit because they can segment their customer base?”
If there are actual arguments against net neutrality, wouldn’t it be a good idea to think of counter-arguments?
OT– Albright does a great job on TDS. (and I have had my problems with her in the past)
She says the famous meeting with the former secretaries of state and defense and w.– it was a briefing, not a consultation and it was very peculiar…
You are a very interesting dude, BobbyG!!!
Oh, and great picture of you and Cheryl.
the connection between the apparent heating up of Iran attack talk and the likelihood of Rove and more indictments does not make me rest easy … and when active military talks out …
ps Booby G - be careful about viewing that big bomb - there are worries that it will stir up the radioactive dust for earlier tests … just sayin’
egregious -
You got that exactly right. My Dad is almost 90, he’s in a nursing home with dementia, but the “ghost pains” of the lost leg are still there.
What’s “worse” — perversely so — is that now our current MASH medtech has “saved” battle casualities that would have formerly been KIAs in the wake of the terrible severity of their wounds. Saved them for a long life of agony. Exacerbated by Bush VA funding cuts as part of his aggregate zeal to eviscerate our government.
I have a lot of “Dirty Harry Moments.”
Bobby “B”, holy crap you’re right about your pic with the guy in yellow saluting opposite handed, isn’t that against military regs? Wonder what that was about. Heh
Bobby and Mrs G - very very nice.
OT — [for those who have cable]
Just got home from physical therapy and am feeling a bit beaten up, so I’m going to lay me down on the couch and put on Turner Classic Movies:
TCM has started a month-long look at “Race in Hollywood Movies: Blacks in Film.” Every Tues. and Thurs. evening in May.
I’m actually not unhappy that I missed the first film earlier tonight, which was D.W. Griffith’s Birth of a Nation, that disgustingly racist film which helped revivify the almost completely defunct KKK in 1915.
However, I’m aware many folks like to take note of it for historical reasons (may we never forget!). The rest of the films of the series look very interesting. The rest of the entries tonight will also focus on very early film. There is an interesting African-American film historian offering commentary throughout.
Just thought I should give a heads-up in case y’all didn’t hear about it before.
See you all later! Time to tune in from the couch…
siun -
Cheryl was QA Manager for environmental remediation for 12 years for the NTS prime contractor for cleanup work there. You don’t know the half of it. The groundwater is fucked. The soils are grotey with radionuclides. Yeah, this bang may blow a lot of crap into the air.
It should be interesting.
-Suzanne says:
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:31 pm
Bobby and Mrs G - very very nice.
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Thank you. She’s a babe. Love her mucho. Write many songs about her.
OT, but where out of the blue did this question come from?
C-SPAN Poll Of The Day
Should the White House continue to allow televised coverage of the daily press briefing? http://www.capitalnews.org/
Bobby G, I just noticed the “Baby on Board” sign. You’re killin’ me!
Hey BobbyG did you see the Hanford, Washington federal remediation of nuclear contamination debacle profiled on 60 minutes the other nite???
I would feel oh so much better if peeps like your wife was in charge of QA there.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....3896.shtml
meta says:
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:37 pm
Bobby G, I just noticed the “Baby on Board†sign. You’re killin’ me!
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Yeah, LOL, that one was REQUISITE! I tried to fade/blend it a bit into the fuselage for realism.
That PRICK. My 2004 site:
http://www.bgladd.com/War_President
Marky #87 - A very reliable friend called to ask whether I had heard about the 200 visits. Said he had heard it on the radio driving home,
but could not remember the name of the person being interviewed.
if a peep like you wife was in charge… doh!
angie #70~
Thanks for mentioning Bolton testimony. I am watching it on CSPAN now. I am fearful more than ever before that we are headed for major troupble unless the Congress finds the courage to do the right thing. Your profile of him is right on.
angie -
Cheryl has been to Hanford repeatedly. She’s been to Rocky Flats repeatedly, INEL repeatedly. She was QA mgr at Chariot. Google it. She was cute there in her hard hat and orange vest, 130 miles north of the Artic Circle in 1993, making grown engineers cry. I was not a Happy Camper with her being gone for that POS.
Wrote a song about it — of course. Whiney samizdat piece.
She is The Empress of QA.
I cook for her.