Poetic justice on so many levels.

No Kidding………unreal the depths of moral vacuity in the service of greed.

Who will be the first reporter to ask Bush the following:

If Iran is such a threat, why does your White House still employee Karl Rove, the man who treasonously betrayed the identity of a CIA agent who was working to stop Iran from getting nukes?

Ask the question.

xyz — yes that is the question now, isn’t it?

nobody said fitz?

ok, I did it

fitz!

Good to see a national reporter doing some good work.

But the WashPo says it was a “Good Leak”, so I guess we are all wrong. :)

Fitz! Maybe he can work the question into the next GJ meeting.

the Plame/Iran story has hit Eschaton and TalkLeft too. This story has legs now … even the DCCC blog has it http://www.dccc.org/stakeholde.....04660.html

now for my comment;

first, holy crow,valery is hot!

second;

I can’t believe nobody is doing the leg work to find out what was lost when brewster jennings and assiciates had to close shop from this exposure of our assets.

brewster jennings and associates is the undelying reality and I hope someone can get larry johnson to come in here and comment

I also hope some of the journalists that frequent this site understand that this is where they need to do some more research if they want to discover what really happened to some of our most valuable covert assets

(CBS/AP)

(CBS) With gas prices sky-high and no end of the Iraq war in sight, President George W. Bush’s approval rating hits an all-time low in a new CBS News poll.

Only 33 percent approve of his job performance, Mr. Bush’s lowest approval rating yet in CBS News polls. A majority – 58 percent of those polled – say they disapprove of the president. Mr. Bush appears to be losing support from his own party. His approval rating among Republicans has dropped to 68 percent. (Read the complete poll results here.)

Mr. Bush’s ratings are even lower on the issues dominating news coverage: near-record gas prices and the war in Iraq.

The poll found that 74 percent of Americans disapprove of the president’s handling of the gas crisis. Even more think that the administration has not developed a good plan to get gas prices under control.

Jane,
The problem is, once again, that without documents to back it up, no one will give credence to the “Plame was working on Iran” story. And that will require a whistleblower brave enough to leak the documents. I would hope someone would come forward now, because such a revelation could help prevent any actions against Iran.

4 Jane Hamsher says:

May 1st, 2006 at 3:53 pm
xyz — yes that is the question now, isn’t it?

an excellant question and one for the press corp

I would also like to see someone ask the president or snow if they renounce the progject for a new american century

I want to see them go on record with that question

I also want to see the president go on record and asked if he is a “dispensationalit” (a person that wants to bring on the battle of armageddon so to rush the rise to heaven)

OT / probably already mentioned / this may reassure Redd that at least Rush isn’t getting “special treatment” in one regard: random drug testing.

Limbaugh will face drug tests under deal
Talk host agrees to prosecutors’ terms in settling painkiller charge

GW Clusterfuck scores another career low in the latest CBS poll. His 33% is the lowest JAR ever recorded for him by CBS. Clusterfuck was at 37% in last month’s poll.

Jane - thanks.

We need to get a concise version of this question out into the popular consciousness.

It says it all, really.

OT - I’m so sorry - EPU’d! - but maybe that’s a rite of passage. This does belong on the last post - but is it possible that Fitzgerald already had the Rove/Hadley e-mail from Hadley?

Treason, motherfuckers, treason!

(re-posted from previous thread)

Congrats for David Schuster. Next new territory… “Brewster-Jennings� This complex dimension of Plame’s work deserves to become more well-known, and analysed.

PS - Best case: Wed. = Rove sealed indictment; Thurs. = press conference for Friday announced at Fitz Web site; Fri. = Rove indictment announced, and Fitz press conf.

You have to wonder if Team Libby is rethinking its demand for the CIA’s damage assessment…

somebody said plame had discovered that some neocons were trying to sell america’s nuclear technology on the black market & not just to iran — the neocons want us to become so entangled in the middle east that we need to stay there forever — that’s part of chalabi’s job: all along he’s been stirring the pot just exactly as the neocons told him to do, which is why they’ve rewarded him by bringing him back as consultant

“Mr. Snow - how long will it take before the President defends our country against traitors in our midst by firing Karl Rove, the man who betrayed the identity of a CIA agent who was fighting to stop Iran from getting the Nuclear Bomb?”

Didn’t Bob Woodward say that his “sources” indicated that the Plame outing was no big deal. That an assessment was done and it wasn’t bad. Woodward is such a tool.

The media will probably describe the “outing” of Brewster-Jennings as incompetent bumbling, as opposed to deliberate sabatoge, which is what I think this whole Plame affair was about.

And then there is also that cute little Libby quaking aspen line in his welcome back to the fold missive to JudyJudyJudy. Something about Iran in it wasn’t there?

Apparently Clusterfuck hasn’t bottomed out yet in the polls. He’s got a pretty weighty bottom.

Or, even more simply:

“Mr. Snow: Why does the President employ traitors”

without documents to back it up, no one will give credence

I disagree. I think many average people will believe it if they hear it from the mainstream TV media.

Scooter to Judy:

You went into jail in the summer. It is fall now. You will have stories to cover – Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program. Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work – and life. Until then, you will remain in my thoughts and prayers.

We all suspected from the get-go that outing Plame was seriously damaging. Horrible result (deliberate or not) - but it’s good to see some validation of that reality, finally. May the perps be hoisted by their own petards.

You will have stories to cover – Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program.

Yayy!!!
I think part of the anger from your rank and file towards Joe/Valerie is envy.
Clinton envy too.

heart pounding, head reeling, skin crawling…

Make America have a chance again– expose it all and get rid of the traitorous, undead carrion feeders in this administration and their loyal followers.

Put them all on trial and let the world see.

*ilson46201 28

Thank you - that is exactly what I was misremembering! The clusterfuck roots are slowly being exposed, aren’t they?

Bush needed to get the inspectors out of Iraq since they could prove there were no WMD….
maybe Ms. Plame’s outfit could have proven Iran was so far away from making a nuke that Bush et al would have no reason to invade…..

1,039 DAYS AND THE KILLING GOES ON AND ON…

Mike Majiia,

“…that will reqire a whistleblower brave enough to leak the documents.”

No Mike, since it has showed up on the prime time corporate media, the whistle has blown. If the administration goes after Shuster or his sources, they draw attention to the charges and it doesn’t matter if they expose the source and keep the documents hidden…the story is out and it can’t be pushed aside.

This is the beginnin’ of the end for this administration…no diversionary issue like gay marriage er concentration camps fer immigrants will push this or the indictments that are comin’ off the screen. Every Republican candidate for office from Senate ta dog catcher is gunna hafta deal with treasongate and this criminal administration.

KEEP THE FAITH BUT KEEP YER CHILDREN INDOORS, THE SHIT IS REALLY COMIN’ DOWN NOW!!!

That is, aspen roots = neocon lies.

I am not a Plame expert so forgive me if I get some of the details wrong but I wanted to point out this from swopa on April 28 about the Rove Hadley email:

“Note what’s missing there? That’s right, any mention of Joseph Wilson’s wife, the former Valerie Plame.”

Cooper says he talked to Rove about Plame and in consequence Rove suddenly finds an email. Yet the email doesn’t mention her.

The meme here should reflect the reality, which is that the Neo-Conservatives don’t give a flying fuck about the United States, it’s Constitution, it’s people, or their security. They never have and they never will.

Not to preach to the choir here, but I assume we all understand that the Neo Cons are essentially a criminal cabal, or somewhat more sophisticated “crime family”, and they care exclusively about two things: money and power, with those two items to be held in large concentrations by as small an elite as possible.

Once this is understood treasonable actions like the Plame outing are totally predictable.

“The problem is, once again, that without documents to back it up, no one will give credence to the “Plame was working on Iran†story.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080466/

“Shuster headed up the MSNBC “ad watch team,†fact checking and analyzing more than 150 campaign commercials throughout the course of the election.”

It’s about time the press picked up on this story. Why does it happen so often that stories are out there for months in the UK press or the blogosphere before the US media wakes up and says, hey! Lookit this!

That having been said, Shuster’s been doing a good job. Slowly, ever so slowly, the press seems to be waking up.

Hugh #37, the email was supposed to prevent Cooper from testifying at all. If it had been taken at face value, without any documents from TIME, it might have worked.

The Hardball repeat is on now, if anyone wants to catch it.

NorskeFlamethrower -

Seriously, this is what happens when you F with the CIA.

The CIA protects its own. This was going to get out eventually.

And the more the Bush administration tries to tamp down on CIA leaks, the more pissed off people at the CIA will get, and the more leaks will spout.

Bush F’d with the wrong agency.

And with Porter Goss falling into possible hooker scandals, his time and attention will be diverted from investigating leaks to trying to survive the public storm.

I know that the clannishness, vengefulness and secrecy of the CIA has been responsible for great evil over the course of the last century, but right now I am grateful that the CIA’s wrath is now being vented at the appropriate targets.

Schuster rules.

If it can be established that Ms. Plame was indeed working on Iranian nuclear research, then even a few conservatives might want to see the leakers executed. I am opposed to the death penalty, but if this doesn’t count as aiding and abetting our enemies during a time of war, it’s hard to imagine what might qualify for that description. Certainly life in prison would not be an excessive penalty in my book.

Think of it: the leakers (Rove, Cheney, Libby, Bush, whoever it was, not to mention Novak et. al.) may have allowed the crazies in Iran just enough leeway to get their hellish devices built five or ten years down the road. They risked the lives of millions for what? For political payback.

Does this rise to the level of lying about sex? Whadduya think?

ITMF’s A (note the plural)

…me o my oh. son of a gun, we’ll have big fun on the Bayou building up the gulf coast with bottom dollar labor as our dollar tumbles…meohmyoh…son of a Bush we’ll have some gumbo on the Bayou..bayonet Rove in his buttocks on the bayou, me oh my oh…send out Scooter an’ let all de pukes drown in the bayou!

The question in my mind is:

Fitzgerald knows…what is he going to do about it?

This assumes he already knew it…I’d say it is a fair bet he’s known for some time given that we know that intelligence officials have been cooperating with him.

regarding the Libby love letter:

biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program.

OK, I’ll bite, what biological threats?

this is a bit creepy.

#20 Harald Hardada,

And no one is saying that Valerie Plame’s team stopped VX shipments in Turkey that were bound for Iraq.

As for nuclear technology and Iran, it was simply part of her beat as counterproliferation director, Mideast Region. It was her department’s job to keep the bad stuff out of Iran, so it was ipso facto damaging.

And as for Brewster-Jennings, it was outed by the WaPoo at White House behest well before Valerie was. More to this iceberg than meets the eye, and I echo the sentiments of others here who hope that some journalist is building the dossier that becomes The Book. The story will out, just a question of when. Ummm, sooner would be good.

Introducing the next press secretary of the Progressive WH– Daaa-vid Shuster!!

Harald Hardrada 20, some neocons were trying to sell america’s nuclear technology on the black market & not just to iran —

There have been suggestions that that’s part of what Sibel Edmonds’ gag order prevents her from talking about.

Hmmm.

This revelation is going to make it a whole hell of a lot harder to swiftboat Fitz if and when he comes down with indictments on Rove.

Norske #35:

The timing of this story almost makes me wonder if someone in the intel community is responding to the Gossish Inquisition with a high-and-inside fastball of his/her own.

Then again, maybe it’s just coincidental.

Schuster is no fool and understands the import of his Plame/Iran story. He also has editors and they OKed this story. It definitely raises the whole Plamegate Kerfuffle to a Certified Brouhaha.

David Derbes:

IMTFs???definition

She was working on nukes in Iran?

That quite a missing piece. It makes me wonder if there’s an element of the whole story that we’re not hearing yet.

Big, huge National Security thing that’s just behind the curtain, just barely out of reach, but soon…

michael ledeen and doug feith. these two have to be right in the middle of the nougat. or at least under the hottest, most radio-active rock. and in the nearestby rock is chalabi

I’m delighted that VP’s actual work and cover are finally being talked about in the msm, but really what took everyone so long?

I remember a slew of fascinating posts at the time of the Libby indictment at TPM Cafe about revealing Plame’s identity and the damage it did to Brewster Jennings, a 20+ year old CIA cover company.

It was already reported then that Plame specialized in tracking and securing nuclear materiel from the Soviet bloque and the CIA was livid that BushCo had ruined such an important CIA cover company–20+ years, with all the contacts that longevity entailed–as well as degrading our ability to fight the GWOT by wrecking an important part of our ability to track nuclear materials in old Soviet bloque and the -stans.

All to smear the former ambassador to Iraq (who served with real courage in the first Gulf War) for speaking out and telling the truth.

hey xyz–

The Agency is full of wrongheaded patriots. You’re absolutely right about the “great evil”. But these people are true believers. Not crony capitalists. They absolutely despise the neo-cons. Bush is completely fucked.

One other interesting point:
I’m wondering if this means someone in the CIA has decided it was time to apply more pressure on the Bush administration.

Further, it could mean someone in the CIA has not yet been expelled by Goss. Also, it could be retaliation AGAINST Goss and his Bush handlers for firing that other agent.

So many possibilities!

xyz 43: Beat me to it.

Can anyone imagine the congressional right trying to protect or defend this? Pat Roberts? Hastert? Frist? Would they even try?

MarcLord #49
And as for Brewster-Jennings, it was outed by the WaPoo at White House behest well before Valerie was.

When did WaPo write about Brewster Jennings before July 14, 2003? Never heard this before, so I’m curious.

Judy was a co-author on a book about Biological Weapons http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....oding=UTF8

she was involved in the Anthrax Attacks (remember those?) and allegedly even received some nasty powder at her workplace (then the NYTimes). She was definitely a player in that story…

watertiger’s on it

the real target

Hi everybody, my name is Sharkbabe and I’m a fitzaholic.

whatevah, susan…

I can’t WAIT to hear the spin on this one.

The whole attempt by Goss/Bush to “purge” the CIA of anyone who wasn’t a party loyalist was foolhardy.

Even if they fired all the career agents, the agents can still leak about what they know about the first several years of Bush’s presidency, which is plenty.

And with a lot of career agents being jettisoned from the CIA, it certainly frees up a lot of the “retirees’” time to nurse grudges, put together paperwork, call reporters, etc.

Scooter to Judy:

“You will have stories to cover – Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program.”

*ilson46201, you wouldn’t be suggesting that each of these issues in Libby’s mind required complicit journalists to spread organized, pre-packaged misinformation via the country’s elite media?

Would you?

somebody in here today earlier said this White House gang are such fuckups that they could start a fire by pissing on a wall . . .

From DailyKos - It appears Mr. Snow has some explaining to do:

From the February 3 edition of Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor: SNOW: Very quickly — very quickly, you got this Valerie Plame case. Now, it turns out that [special counsel] Peter (sic: Patrick) Fitzgerald doesn’t — can’t even identify any harm. She wasn’t a covert agent. She wasn’t compromised. As a result, what you’re doing is possibly sending a senior administration official off about a faulty memory over something that wasn’t a crime. Meanwhile, you got [CIA director] Porter Goss saying that there’s serious damage here. Don’t you think this deserves at least an opportunity to try to figure out what happened? CROWLEY: Well, I’ll take exception with you. The fact that we had a covert operative that was exposed, it’s possible. SNOW: She wasn’t covert anymore. Even her husband says she wasn’t covert for six years.

Hi Sharkbabe, My name is Clare and I belong to the cult of Branch Hamsherians, we worship the 11th muse > . . .

Karl is practicing for his next GJ appearance:

http://derenegade.blogspot.com.....ottie.html

I truly don’t get why ’suicide bombers’ are included in Scooters To-Do List for Judy . . . the other stories require expert flacks to hype (catapult) the propaganda.

zennurse:
I can imagine it. These bastards aren’t smart enough to be embarrased.

#66 - Hi, Sharkbabe! (waves) The meetings here are the best–all the support for your habit you’d ever need.

Sounds like Karl might be wearing a tight collar at the end of the day after all.

I heard about this angle of the story well over 18 moths ago, so like the hookergate story it’s been swirling but MSM has been loath to go to print on it. Dicey proposition, writing about super secret stuff without compounding the problem. Maybe someone should ask Seymour Hersh what he thinks about this story. It would seem to me that he’s the kind of guy who always has a book up his sleeve.

The Colbert speech with the Rove sitting a couple tables away from Wilson and Wilson’s wife was powerful.

The jpeg workup I couldn’t post till I got home:

www.bgladd.com/The_Disgracer_in_Chief.jpg

He thinks COLBERT gave him a rough time? I’d love to tell him to his face what I think of him, narcissistic criminal prick.

Abusing the CIA as they’ve done just shows the utter contempt of these guys and their overweening arrogance. And W’s Oedipal madness. The Agency and the Pentagon have both had more than enough and the long knives are officially out.

Goss will go somehow, probably with panties on his head, in a Clinton-era redux pushback.

We’ll see lots more generals on parade, and more ex-analysts too. It’s been said before, but who every would have thought that we’d be rooting for the CIA?

I figured this was what was going on. The idea that they’d risk so much simply to discredit Wilson — one of many war critics — never seemed right to me.

But it MIGHT be worth it if they could effectively distract from the real prize — say, dismantling the Iran investigation — by taking a little heat for playing hardball with Wilson. I guess they never counted on anyone having the spine to really look into it.

What cynical, morally bankrupt bastards.

Hi, Sharkbabe! Indeed, Jane, Christy and Pach are powers much, much higher than I am–and I am so grateful to them.

okay guys, I just watched the Shuster report on HB, and not a single follow up question from the feathered one - que ?

BobbyG, good pic. “Coward One” — so true.

“Branch Hamsherians” LOL!!!

Yeah, but instead of Kool-aid, we drink Aussie Shiraz and 18 year old single malt. And we are forensic-epistemological “Lutherans.”

Leslie in CA -

Thanks. Thinkin’ about adding a thought bubble comin’ from the dude in red, “Yeah, right, valiant defender of the TANG NCO Club No-Fly Zone.”

This came up in a news story or two several months ago.

Not to burst anyone’s bubble, but if any of the broadcast or print “journalists” bothered to read the available published stories out there…

… this would have broke weeks ago.

Bobby, some of us stick to elaborate coffees and mineral water, dear, having adequately sampled the grog in a former life. But we partake in repartee with great enthusiasm as part of the rites of Hamsherism. I am, first and foremost, a minion.

cbl 85, maybe Tweety didn’t get his fax from Mehlman in time.

So this is what Judge Tatel was referring to in his finding way back when? Something about “grave issues of national security” or something like that?

Sombrero, we are well aware and our bubble is not burst. It is the media bubble that has burst, this information will not be confined to the netroots now and will travel wide for all to see. That’s the cause for celebration, sad as it is.

KO is gonna cover Colbert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY.

zennurse -

I also grind my own beans and keep cases of Pellegrino on hand, and had reached my Lifetime Permissible Dose of Quervo by age 27 (33 years ago).

But, right now I’m gonna pop open a bottle of Shiraz and go watch Keith.

;)

BobbyG, I think the guy’d be thinking something a lot ruder than that . . . don’t you?

Pretty damn RUDE of a comedian to MAKE FUN of a president in public who has lied to take us to war and has apparently broken laws with impunity. The NERVE of that guy. I can certainly understand why the press is ANGRY at him- and right in front of his WIFE too!

on the replay, M$NBC wisely cut Tweety’s fatuous remark about Colbert was so bad because he didnt realize Bush is the Head-of-State, not just another politician…

wise editors!

rwcole # 97–Just wondering if lump o’ stepford boyfriend killer got choked up watching and hearing the truthiness the other nite… like Mrs. Scaleslito.

nope– the icy slushy grey stuff lumbering thru her veins does not allow feelings– even fake ones. Learned that from Babs.

Reporter Charlie Savage is on Countdown right now. He looks 12 years old. :)

JWR:

I never bought the idea that outing Plame was political payback to Wilson. Always thought it had more to do with Brewster-Jennings. But, there was a lot more going on there B-J than just investigating Iran- a whole mess of intertwined neo-con stuff- and I think that the fact that this has come back to bite them in the butt re: Bush’s threats to Iran is ironic, bec. I don’t think that was necessarily the first, or prime reason that B-J was a threat to the neo-cons. Y’know, Bush may have been stupid enough to buy the line that it was “political payback” for Wilson, but I think whoever got the ball rolling had something more sinister in mind (or something more sinister to protect). Ledeen to Rove to Bush.

And, from the venerable WaPo http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....Found=true
===Karl Rove, the most powerful adviser in the White House, serves as President Bush’s eyes and ears. But who serves as Rove’s eyes and ears while he toils in the bubble of the West Wing? [..]
Rove is widely considered Bush’s most powerful aide because of his long history with Bush and his status as one of three (with Vice President Cheney and Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr.) who routinely command private audiences with Bush. Though he is Bush’s top political aide, Rove also has a seat at daily White House policy meetings, and his network of advisers includes those who talk to him about terrorism and foreign policy.

One is Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, whose specialties include terrorism and the Middle East. His latest book, according to the official summary, asserts that “America must topple the regimes of the terror masters to eliminate the threat of terrorism.”

The two met after Bush’s election. “He said, ‘Anytime you have a good idea, tell me,’ ” Ledeen said. Every month or six weeks, Ledeen will offer Rove “something you should be thinking about.” More than once, Ledeen has seen his ideas, faxed to Rove, become official policy or rhetoric. ===

xyz—“Mr. Snow - how long will it take before the President defends our country against traitors in our midst by firing Karl Rove, the man who betrayed the identity of a CIA agent who was fighting to stop Iran from getting the Nuclear Bomb?â€

Yes. THIS IS IT. Who will be the hero to ask this question??

Helen Thomas comes to mind.

The bombshell that Valerie Plame was working on Iran WMD matters and that her mission was compromised when her identity was betrayed is significant in two ways that are not immediately obvious:

1. This revelation makes it much more difficult for the administration to successfully swiftboat Fitz or impugn the investigation as politically motivated.

2. It also makes it much more difficult for Bush to get away with pardoning anyone. Any attempt by Bush to pardon Rove or Libby would have immense consequences, up to and including impeachment. In other words, Bush does not need to simply worry about the midterms - he needs to worry about the security of his office itself.

Bush cannot simply wait until after the midterms to pardon, because, now that the American people know the significance of the treason that has occurred, impeachment may be a real threat if he were to pardon at ANY time during his presidency.

In turn, Libby and Rove, seeing their chances of a pardon diminishing, may start to see the virtues of cooperation in a clearer and more positive light.

egregious @ 102

My money’s on Stephen Colbert

Michael Ledeen -

“Every ten years or so the United States needs to pick up some crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the wolrd we mean business.”

Such has been the BushCo mindset since Day One.

xyz’s question needs to be faxed and emailed to EVERY SINGLE PERSON working in the mass media. There is no more critical question, unless it be, do we as Americans support the first strike use of nuclear weapons on a whim because we feel like being bullies.

Somebody, somewhere, STOP US: world, we are calling out to you.

I’m a Branch Hamsherian, but on alternate Sundays, I attend services at the Redd Headian Temple and the First Pachacutecian Church.

I was out of town for a few days with my family. I have returned with a sunburn and an infestation of anti-FDL trolls at my blog.

Turn your back for a minute and they’re everywhere.

I heard Stephen Colbert was on tv the other night. What happened?

(kidding)

Marclord at 49:

I’m not finding a story in the WaPo in the on-line archives any earlier than Oct. 2003.

Do you have a link - or at least a citation?

Bobby G- but do you get my point that the relationship bet. B-J and Iran nukes was not the whole story, and that there might be some “irony” here? What do you think about the Ledeen- Rove- Bush angle? And that Bush may have been played?

Valley Girl says
May 1st, 2006 at 5:12 pm

Thanks for that. And isn’t that crazy Milroie(sp) woman also a well known policy advisor? I saw a story in The Guardian shortly after the Hersh - Iran story came out stating that Rove was vehemently opposed to striking Iran. I always thought Rove was more an electoral, as opposed to a foreign policy wonk, but all bets are off if he’s taking advice from Ledeen.

ok, me to me has good questions too.

Does the US government officially repudiate PNAC?

Does the US government desire or not desire Armageddon by inciting nuclear war/destroying Temple Mount/starting WWIII for real?

Does the US government approve actions leading to the alleged ‘Rapture’ despite the Bible saying NO ONE EXCEPT GOD KNOWS WHEN THE END OF TIME IS??

Are we happier knowing that I looked up how to spell Armageddon? TRUTH IS IMPORTANT, in matters large and small.

For history: GOD FORGIVE US.

xyz definitely sees the political angle to the Plame/Iran story. Outting a ‘covert CIA agent’ sounds bad but is awfully abstract. Connecting her work to opposing the Big Bad Boogey Man *I*R*A*N* puts things in a very different light.

“Myrtle, you mean to tell me that idiot Bush just pardonned somebody who wrecked a spy network against Iran? We need a Congress that can handle that fool — maybe impeach him or sumtin!”

egregious,

I would actually encourage everyone to take a crack at refining the question b/c it isn’t grammatically perfect right now.

If you keep all of the elements in there and make it a bit more elegant and more concise, I think it could be most deadly.

But, that being said, it is pretty good the way it is…

JWR- Milroie(sp) woman also a well known policy advisor?

Sorry, missed that- was that in WaPo, or elsewhere? Doesn’t ring a bell.

Please take a few moments to appreciate these flash animations by a 15 year old peace activist from Alabama. They are just wonderful.

http://peacetakescourage.cf.huffingtonpost.com/

Iraq: war of aggression. Iran: second war of aggression.

Treason trials. War crimes. The Hague.

We are the new Germany.

WORLD: stop us

*ilson46201 -

Exactly - this has moved from a possibly victimless crime to an act of treason that hurt america’s efforts to fight a war on terror. We may never know how many agents died because of this leak, or how many Americans and others may die because this important work to monitor Iran’s nuclear program was undermined by Traitors.

from a lurker #82

If Goss goes, it may not be with panties on his head. We shouldn’t assume that these were female prostitutes. In Manhattan, for instance, the Police Department makes a big show every few years of rounding up bunches of female prostitutes but that’s only because male prostitutes enjoy the patronage of so-called straight political leaders

Of course, we are all members in good standing of
The Redderalist Society

xyz says:
May 1st, 2006 at 5:16 pm

Doesn’t this revelation also preclude a greymail defense?

now we see why the wingnuts were so frantic to poo-poo Ms. Plame’s covert status into just another Langley desk jockey — to make it into a ‘victimless crime’ — wrecking a spy ring against Iran is awfully hard to justify (except in Tehran)

xyz re grammar, i think what we’re doing is deadly enough. So many Iraqi civilians killed. Children handcuffed and shot in the head with a bullet. WHY????

Weapons of mass destruction? Uh…no. Replacing a dictator with a democracy…uh…no. Oil belongs to us/US? Sure!!

FALLUJAH civilians burned to a crisp with our use of white phosphorus.

WAR CRIMES. WE ARE KILLING PEOPLE WHY?????????

The best of the bestest clips of SC on KO!

Valley Girl - Not in the WaPo, but she has a long history with the neo-cons and I seem to remember hearing that her book, about Saddam being behind the OKC bombing, was being read in the WH. This article has a lot of info on Mylroie:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....ergen.html

disappointing to see olberma