
(guest blog by Taylor Marsh)
Via Glenn Greenwald we get a fascinating flurry of traitorous tall tales. But let's focus on Ken doll Sean Hannity's cabin boy, Mark Levin, for a minute. If you're not familiar with Mr. Levin, he's the guy who played Hannity's boy in the Alec Baldwin radio fracas. The likes of Levin and other radio Republicans are now taking out after Mary McCarthy. It's interesting to note that Levin is obviously reading Jane Hamsher at firedoglake, calling Dana Priest "McCarthy's stenographer." Sound familiar? It won't stick like "Steno Sue." (*see update) After all, we are talking about Dana Priest, a reporter who is committed to telling the story straight, the way reporters are supposed to work. But for the likes of Hannity, Levin and the radio Republicans, led by Rush, if someone doesn't back Bush, they are not only not telling the truth, but a traitorous partisan, in other words, a Democrat.
As for Hannity's cabin body, Levin only wants one thing and it's not to report the facts. That's not what they do on right-wing radio, where Levin now resides thanks, no doubt, to his Hannity hook up. Levin is now just another cog in the Republican wheel meant to transport the right-wing radio crowd to the polls. He's responsible for revving up Bush's base regardless of how it's done. Facts have nothing to do with it, truth a niggling annoyance, as you'll see in Levin's meanderings. The right-wingers on radio use only one tool to inspire their listeners: EMOTION. Facts only get in their way.
If she leaked she must be charged. I wonder what Schieffer would say then? I suppose he would urge that she receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom. After all, the Washington Post's Dana Priest, who apparently served as McCarthy's stenographer, was just awarded the Pulitzer Prize.
I must say, however, that the media's sickening hypocrisy knows no bounds. They came to the defense of Joe Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame, who worked behind-the-scenes to get her husband that “fact-finding” trip to Niger. They demanded an investigation into who “leaked” Plame’s identity to Bob Novak — which ensnared their own reporters. They hoped they would critically wound the president, and they failed. Clearly Plame was not undercover and the revelation of her identity was not a crime. Lewis Libby now stands accused of lying about a crime that never occurred and the media think that’s a good thing.
Now comes Mary McCarthy, who apparently leaked real classified national-security secrets and the media largely dismiss it or defend it. They have no curiosity about McCarthy, the extent of her leaks, to whom she leaked (beyond Priest, did she leak to other reporters, members of Congress, other governments?), how she secured top security posts, and her ties to the Clinton administration. Surely there is every reason the government should pursue this investigation at least as vigorously as the Plame matter has been pursued. Dana Priest, among others, should have her day before a grand jury.
All this blog babbling would be bad enough, except for the last line where Levin suggests there are traitors everywhere. The inference, coming at the end of a long wail about Democrats, is that the traitors among us are "over there," in the Democratic Party. The only purpose of this kind of rhetorical drive by is to get everyone pumped up, which will continue on radio stations throughout this country. It will begin by using Clinton, because whenever the Republicans are in deep trouble that's where they run. Then, after Clinton is intoned, the likes of Ken doll Sean Hannity and his cabin boy, with a little help from the newly lobotomized Laura Ingraham, will intone the tactic of fear.
Be afraid of Democrats, because they are traitors and undermining this country. It will be utilized on radio to rev up the base, where Karl Rove has used right-wing radio for years to pump up the EMOTION of right-wingers, because that's what gets voters to the polls and right-wing radio listeners vote. The same tactics are continued on "Christian" broadcasting networks throughout the country. It is quite simply the most formidably dangerous weapon the Republicans have to wield against Democrats come election time.
Pat Buchanan, on "Face the Nation" today, outlined the strategy I believe will be used going forward, especially on right-wing radio. The Republicans will attempt to make the 2006 election a competition between conservatism and liberalism, while using Mary McCarthy and the non-existent Democratic traitors among the Administration as Bush boogeyman.
Whatever you do, don't laugh. I know it sounds preposterous, because conservatism has utterly failed, with one of the right's own testifying to that fact in a new book. But in mid-term elections turn-out is notoriously weak. Right-wing radio listeners vote. So, if Republicans on radio can pump up the emotion and make their listeners frightened enough of the ghost of some phantom liberal villain, Karl Rove's precinct captains, which is the way Rove refers to his right-wing radio listeners, just may come out in droves. It could make the difference. It has before.
NOTE: I've been studying radio since the mid-1990s, having been interviewed across the country for over 10 years (including TV). In 2002, I moved from L.A., after a certain conglomerate colossus told me they wouldn't put a Democratic female on the air, to launch my own show, with the help of my co-executive producer. It lasted less than 6 months. Even though it was right before the mid-term elections in 2002, I couldn't get the Democratic Party pr team in Nevada interested in aiding our cause by coming on radio with me. I went to every Democratic party luncheon, dinner, made phone calls, you name it, but they couldn't have cared less. Today, the Democratic Party remains clueless to the power of terrestrial radio across this country. As long as they remain so, Republicans will have an advantage we simply can't overcome. Emotion is what gets voters to the polls. Right-wing radio reaches tens of millions of people every day pumping up that emotion. Air America is great, but it's not enough. By the way, I'm still trying to get back on the air. Believe me, I'm not alone.
UPDATE: FDL reader Pattern Recognizer informs me through comments that Atrios coined "Steno Sue." My apologies to Atrios for the unintended slight.
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Frist!
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FITZZZZZZZZZ!
Lewis Libby now stands accused of lying about a crime that never occurred and the media think that’s a good thing.
Where have heard something like that before? A total media circus that was essentially much ado about nothing.
Martha Stewart?
Well yeah, but there was somone else.
Did something wrong, but not illegal and didn’t tell the truth when asked about it. Blew up big time.
Ring a bell? I’m sure it will come to me.
Bionic, ya gotta love that tired, lame canard. If there was “no underlying crime,” why, then, the need for all the perjury and obstruction?
That Dog Jus’ Won’t Hunt, Cletus
O/T - I’ll go and read the new post in a sec. - but from the last thread- Sex Toys as Illegal
btw, this woman and her husband, are suing the stuffing out of Johnson County, an out of court settlement has been proposed - plaintiff is currently ‘weighing options’ w/ counsel -lol
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BobbyG;
I wonder where that”no underlying crime” attitude was in ‘97-’98.All these guys(and gals) knew then was”rule of law”.The blindness of patisanship knows no bounds.
DMM -
Yeah, good point. The selective indignation. LMAO.
If they have a real intrest in going after leakers,lets warm up on Orrin Hatch.
BobbyG
It’s the holier than thou stance that gets me.
Clinton and Libby (and Martha too) aren’t really similar except that both got caught by the lying about something.
What these guys love to cover up is that far from there being no crime in the Libby case, is that Libby’s lying prevented Fitz from investigating properly.
As we know, indictments for the crime are almost certainly in the pipeline. We just have to get past Libby’s lying in order to do it.
They are so totally rabid and yet pretend to be the voice of rational thought. Totally delusional.
Whoa!! Way off topic but I wanted to share this info with my FDL family. Just got off the phone with daughter #1 and she’s pregnant! I’m gonna be a grampa! Never been one of those before.
Metalying! Wow.
I’m reading that sentence in the block quote where Levin is lying about Libby lying about a crime that Levin is lying about never occuring and then lying that the media is somehow smart enough or perceptive enough (or even bold enough) to think all this not-lying is a good thing…
Way too much multi-layer lying for a Sunday morning.
Tayor, I’d listen to you, if you work the airwaves half as well as you write! Can you talk Randi or Schultz or someone to let you guest-host when they are off?
That photo of Federal crime scene potograhpers at work is great!Now I’m LMAO
Oilfieldguy @ 12
Congratulations!
Just remember that grandparents are much more youthful now than they were when we were kids.
(spoken as a great aunt)
Congrats Oilfieldguy,enjoy it!
marksb - Even though I have tapes, etc., because I’m not currently on the air not even Air America will put me on as a guest host in the wee hours of the morning. That’s the conundrum. When you’re not on the air, you have no chance of getting back on the air. Even Democrats use the excuse: tell me when you’re back on the air and we’ll listen; maybe then you’ll get the shot. It’s frustrating, but maybe if the trumpet it sounded loud enough, others won’t go through what I have experienced.
Congrats Oilfield Guy ! - wonderful news
btw - did you know you can find your Cat with a Gat graphic over at Obsidian Wings ?
The phrase “Steno Sue” did not originate on Firedog lake. I was reading about her dutiful regurgitation years ago on Atrios, before Firedog was born.
DMM- feel free to peruse some of my PhotoDraw fun…
http://www.bgladd.com/Bush_Maladministration/
CAVEAT: some tasteless humor and graphic war violence pics in the mix along with the funny stuff.
The one good thing I can see here is, that kind of emotion is hard to sustain in the long run.
I have a friend who came from a rough background. Spent a good part of his childhood in foster care, went into the army when he got out of high school because he got in some trouble and the judge gave him a choice of that or jail.
When he got out of the army, he missed that feeling of being a part off something bigger than himself so he joined the Klan. Yes, the Klan.
Anyway, that didn’t last very long because, as he told me the story years later, he never understood why he should be willing to beat somebody up that he had never met before just because they were black. And besides, he said, “all that hatred is exhausting.”
Whenever I think there is no cause for hope I remember that simple observation, from someone who has every right to know — hatred is exhausting.
OT - reposted from way into the EPU’ed zone of the “netroots to grassroots” thread:
yesterday’s report-back of Kerry’s speech from the MA FLD roots group is posted as a diary at dailykos:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....115230/700
5 of us attended Senator Kerry’s speech, “Patriotism and Dissent in Americaâ€, in Boston on Saturday. Afterward, we were able to speak with Kerry’s state director, Jon Jennings about our concerns. Jon was open to hearing from us and, we discovered, has read Firedoglake! Before the end of the our conversation, Jon offered to meet with us on a regular basis (monthly). We will certainly take him up on his offer - which he has already confirmed via email! On our way out, we saw Senator Kerry with a small group of people. Taking advantage of the opportunity, Prof Foland was able to have a short discussion with Senator Kerry about how the security clearance system is abused to suppress dissent.
A very successful day!
RevDeb gave a quick update yesterday - but there’s lots more detail provided at the diary link - including pictures (don’t miss prof foland with senator kerry!)
Taylor wrote:
“with a little help from the newly lobotomized Laura Ingraham, “
I’m not a brain surgeon, but didn’t the lobotomy she got awhile ago do the trick? I’ve never known of anyone who needed more than one of those procedures.
Well folks, in my own opinion, the MOST important part of Ms. Marsh’s article comes in the last paragraph leading with the word “Note”. I would suggest that all democrats read and re-read that paragraph.
Folks, I may sometimes sound rather strident or aggresive in my approach via comments (but you guys, to your credit, always let me have my say!) but I’m trying to point out a few things in a broad perspective.
Some, many of you good folks seem to take the intellectual high-road on things. The best, and most recent example being great support for Feingold and his censure stuff. Intellectually, you’re correct. But, repubs don’t play on the field of intellectualism. I advocate against such intellectual paths.
My view of how to right things is to view it as a knife fight…and democrats have to get up close and personal. it’s ugly, it’s very aggresive, and it can be unfair…but a knife fight it is. In a symbolic way, we’ve got to be willing to stick a knife in the repub belly and twist, and STOP all these windmill tilts over things that are “intellectually” correct…but get us nowhere. And, if that means we have to “bloviate” just as loudly as them…so be it. Nobody gets points for fighting clean…points only to to the winner.
Ghostman
OT-
Pretty good article at American Prospect on the internals of the OVP (Office of Vice President:
http://www.prospect.org/web/pa.....leId=11423
The confluence of various internal interests strikes me as key.
Damn Taylor,there’s a catch 22.Barriers will remain until someone knocks them down.We’re all pulling for you.
Congrat Oilfieldguy — being a ‘grandfather/mother is the best activity. Once again seeing those baby smiles and hands reaching to you, AND later thinking you are the best in the world — it fixes my heart up right quick. My small house as become the refuge of my grandkids for a little quiet (there are 4 siblings under 11) and grandma’s TLC.
But it also adds to my anger that they will have to find a way around the mess we will be leaving them, no matter who is the next prez.
Taylor, I always enjoy reading your posts. Dems are behind the eight ball on radio and teevee. I always wonder how long it will take them to come to.
Taylor - to borrow and paraphrase from “The Graduate” — “Taylor, I have one word for you. Do you know what that word is? PODCAST!”
I know. It lacks many advantages of OTA…but your audience may be found online these days; think different.
TOPICAL:
I’ve never seen Talk Radio. I notice the director is same as Jane’s NBK.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096219/
Any reviews?
I did a couple related posts:
Rush Claims WaPo “Concocted” Plagiarism Charges to Oust Domenech
and -
Michael Savage Calls for the Murder 100 Million Muslims; Slanders Duke Rape Victim
Sadie Baker - No, emotion isn’t hard to sustain. All you need do is look at the results. It builds, but right before election it explodes. They’ve used it since the mid-1990s. There is NO GOOD NEWS on the right-wing radio front, NONE.
Thanks, DMM, there are a lot of people like me out there and we could use your support.
Please all, read Ghostman, on this one, #23. He’s got it.
Another great post, Taylor - thanks for a great week!
Is this going to be a fight between Republican emotional issues and Democratic emotional issues, and if so, what are our emotional issues? Is it fear of a constitutional crisis? Is it fear of nuclear annihilation? The sad thing is that people of small mind and tiny brain CAN relate to the horror of the gay couple moving in to their neighborhoods, but start talking constitional issues and they glaze over.
For years, we have suffered from the perception that wanting our government to observe the tenets of the constitution makes us America-hating, gay-loving, abortion-loving, anti-war liberals who simply cannot be trusted with the safety and security of America and Americans. Now we are being branded traitors for wanting our government to be open and accountable. Is trust our issue? Is it the laundry list of areas where this administration has sold us down the river, with the cooperation of our senators and representatives, that we can use as examples of why Americans should withhold their trust of the GOP?
Democratic, liberal media are not going to reach those who listen to the Limbaughs and the Hannitys. The fight, therefore, has to be in demanding that for every Hugh Hewitt and Joe Klein and Jonah Goldberg who are guests of Wolf Blitzer and George Stephanopoulos and Tim Russert, that Taylor Marsh and Jane Hamsher and Christy Hardin Smith get seats at the table.
Newspaper editorial page editors, television news producers, and weekly newsmagazine editors need to get a consistent and constant stream of letters that (1) correct the nonsense being spewed by the right wing, and (2) remind them that liberals read newspapers and magazines, watch TV and spend time online, too.
We have to hold the feet of our Democratic and Republican legislators - at all levels of government - to the fire of accountability, and remind them that they represent all of the people of their districts and not just the ones who voted for them, or are of the same party.
Whew…I see the sun has finally appeared after a weekend of torrential rain (which we desperately needed, and with my family on a well, we never complain about the rain!) so I am going to take some time to get outside, where gazing at the tulips and the dogwood trees and marveling at the intensity of the color green this time of year will, with any luck, lower my blood pressure a few points and take some of the edge off…
taylor - i second Blank Kludge’s comment @ 28… would love to hear you via podcast!
Blank Kludge - I started doing daily political podcasts last year, then upped the tech side this year, with my listeners building continually.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/media.php
Taylor, another great post - thanks and thanks for including the K Street Gang link - trolled gooper sites all week looking for a pre emptive hit on this kid. funny, Amazon did not characterize him as an intern
Shorter K-Lo: “Why do you hate America and when did you stop beating your wife ?”
BobbyG,
Good stuff there,some of it is a little rough,but its a rough subject,scrubbed a little too clean for our veiwing pleasure.Good work.
It’s only wrong to be a ’steno’ is if you are being spun and lied to, the way Sue Schmidt was, first by Ken Starr and then by some of her sources for her nonetheless-valuable Tom DeLay story. But McCarthy was telling the truth. Her foes don’t dispute what she alleged; indeed, that she was telling the truth is, everyone agrees, the very reason she was fired. How thick do you have to be not to get the difference?
Republicans are the stupidist people in the world. Unfortunately for the rest of us, they have neither financial constraints nor scruples.
One need only listen to Michael Savage for 5 minutes to see that fascism is now in the wide open.
I had a discussion with a conservative last night and he was shocked at some of my characterizations. He thought I was being over the top. I was giving him the soft sell too.
I am going to pry the lid off the can and let him look inside, slowly as not to scare im away.
-GSD
I have been reading this blog for some time now, and I thoroughly enjoy the analysis by these talented writers. With that said, could someone please tell me why the first post has to be someone involving Fitzgerald? I realize it’s one of the highest attacking points against Bush and this Administration, and rightfully so. But what the hell does this story have anything to do with Plamegate?
I’m sorry, just a minor annoyance on my part. And I do think this point has a great deal of merit in regards to the power of AM radio for the corrupt Republicans. Dems. have got to stay the hell away from their DLC consultants who tell them to sit on their collective asses and do nothing while the Republicans come out attacking. We all know it’s coming, and we all know what kind of sleazy, slimy, smeary summer this is going to be headed up by Rove and the Right Wing Noise Machine.
A consistent and persistent attack/counterattack is mandated not just to keep the Republicans on the defensive, but to get out the voters for the Democratic party who seemingly do not ever come out in good numbers (or consistently get outnumbered by the wingnutters). This has to be turned or we’ll get our collective asses handed to us despite all the low poll numbers and Republican scandals.
I’m voting for podcast as well, on-demand so my warehouse can ring to your progressive voice as we load the trucks.
Anyone involved in the roots project,there’s a call in 10 minutes.In MD drop me a e-mail at paradox65@comcast.net
Ghostman @ 23
But, repubs don’t play on the field of intellectualism. I advocate against such intellectual paths.
I agree with you about the republicans, but take issue with your advice.
The Repubs, well, essentially Rove, have learned to use direct marketing to a high degree. Check out his mentors. Direct Marketing guys. By that I mean both the date mining and the carefully crafted to appeal to your deepest emotional triggers type of mailers.
In my research, I read an interesting statistic (sorry, from a book a few years ago) that such direct marketing appeals that are a turn off for 7 in 10 people.
So 3 in 10 respond positively enough to make DM a very lucrative way to market your message/product.
I personally find it significant that “Bush’s Base” seems to range at around 30%.
The trick is to appeal to the 7 in 10, not to try and peel off from the 3 in 10. No one likes to feel stupid, so finding the balance between talking over their head and insulting their intelligence is important.
That’s why I think Dean’s 50 state strategy is so brilliant. By getting on the ground and knowing people and being known to people where they live, the Dems will do far better, whomever they pick for pres, than if they try to find a catchy tag line.
Gotta cut this short.
Ghostman 23
I agree to a degree. I don’t think we have to be more like republicans to win. We just have to keep from being weak. When confronted with their outrageously sleazy tactics, we must do more than simply send them a letter expressing our dismay (Kerry/Edwards) Sure, I’m not above a few dirty tricks, it makes the news and people sorta smirk at that stuff. Yes it is a full contact event. But the thugs that repugs hire and their tactics should be shrilly exposed for the vile acts they are, not quietly adopted by the Democrats. In other words, higher ground, but not by much.
Blank Kludge
“Any reviews?”
kind of a tough film for lots of folks to sit through, no ‘crusty but benign’ ralk show host there, but worth it for Bogosian’s performance.
when it was released, many of my film buff, film school friends concurred
I don’t think Ghost is saying use their sleazy tactics,its being quick to go in for the ‘kill’
Oilfieldguy - I took Ghostman to mean a knife fight with regards to radio, which if that’s the case, is absolutely true. We need to appeal to EMOTIONS more, not just the people’s intellect. Emotion gets people to move. Appealing to their intellect has them sitting and pondering the truths, which is good, but I want them up and moving because they have to.
When in a fight for your life you don’t back off when your opponent is reeling,you drop the SOB(or GOP)
In the abstract,of course
I always love it when Taylor writes about radio, I’ve only become recently aware of what a pervasive, unanswered key tool it is in the GOP arsenal. And the devil is definitely in their details.
Taylor:
Good on ya! Link bookmarked.
(excuse the ingnorance. I can’t even use Bogart on Casablanca “I was misinformed.”)
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I know the topic is radio; I got movies on the brain.
Ghostman’s metaphor is apt. I’m reminded of a scene in Butch Cassidy where there’s a challenge for leadership of the gang. A knife fight. Newman wants to ‘Get the rules straight” while sauntering up to the much larger opponent. Said dissident is almost done saying “Why, everybody knows there’s no rul…” as the knee is applied to his most vulnerable area of anatomy. Thus ending the knife fight and rebellion in the ranks.
There’s a lesson there, somewhere.
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About the soldier who went KKK then stopped. I wonder if part of the reason he was exhausted was trying to sort out the cognitive dissonance bt the KKK msg. and his experiences in an integrated military? Just a thought.
I would love to see Mary McCarthy be tried for treason, and Dana Priest too. But it will never happen. This is just another wingnut empty ranting. They will never allow the public to know anything about the illegal renditions and torture by proxy that has been a “secret†of the Bushites.
Has there ever been a trial of a whistle blower when the administration’s caught with their pants down?
#41, bionic…we can differ! Here’s my thoughts: the repubs use ALL avenues of communication, and repeat over and over and over their points…regardless of how slanted and inaccurate they are. It starts to soak in. You write of the repubs direct mail stuff….where’s the democrats direct mail stuff? We so often are silent, or point out the “intellectual weakness” of a repub strategy…but those repubs keep right on with the knife cutting! I say…we don’t get much of anywhere offering critique if we don’t GET IN THE GAME. Just like football…you keep hitting your opponent over and over.
On this flap regarding Ms. McCarthy…let’s fight back! The argument that she may be ok because she revealed an “illegality” is, in my opinion, “just ok” as an argument. How about this one? Every time the repubs bitch and moan about this woman, we say: “look, I don’t know much about this underling staffer over at CIA, but the REAL issue is that we now have evidence that our SECRETARY OF STATE leaked classified info! This is a THREAT to the republic!!!”
See? We put the knife right back in them. “Defending” Ms. McCarthy, to a point, is ok. But I want to score. Put the knife back in the belly of the WH…with the Sec. of State. Its messy, but that’s how you win.
Ghostman
this is another in a long string of praise-worthy posts. that said, judging from the local war protest going on right down the street from my office, the ‘emotivation’ balance appears to be tipped in favor of the left this year and it just might make the difference at the polls (though i won’t sleep easily until i can wake up to those results).
while there is always anger to be whipped up among the right-wing, there also is evidence of erosion in that reservoir of support and that may well translate into a decrease in right-wing voter turn-out.
Media… ‘Use it or be used by it’. The awareness of ‘rubber stamp radio’ needs to be raised in the ongoing public discourse, IMO.
Problems seeing new posts unless I post, so sorry for the detour…
Taylor, I’ve been wondering why the Republicans have built up such an advantage in the radio markets. I agree that this is an important means of communications for them. They’ve been able to keep a large segment of the American public whipped up and scared for a decade or more. Whether the Democrats can use the medium as well is open to question, but it’s certain that the Republican advantage will remain large as long as the Democrats neglect it entirely. People like Randi Rhodes and Al Franken can be persuasive to audiences who aren’t part of “the choir” already. It would be nice to have them more widely distributed.
Hope things work out for you and others who are trying to open up talk radio to the left.
Just be careful about how much and what sort of emotional appeal.
Lots of people are turned off by what they feel is emotional manipulation. It’s not that they aren’t able to be manipulated emotionally or that it’s only through their emotions that you’ll reach them.
It’s badly done when people feel it. You have to give the sensible reasons to back up something they decided on an emotional basis.
My contention is that Rove found a voting block and discovered what their triggers are to make them jump. Then he changed the party line to fit their view.
The media acts as if everyone does or should react to the same triggers. They don’t.
The Dems have to figure out the triggers that will swing a big enough block of Independents to vote D. Going to the states in off election years and staying there is a great way to learn.
“Rubber stamp radio” is right, darkblack. Though I haven’t used your term, I’ve been talking about the problem for years. But when we can’t even get the Democrats to listen it shows you the seriousness of what we face. Now, they evidently think Air America is enough. It’s a wonderful start, but not even close to what we need, which is to be in every state, in every city on terrestrial radio. Nothing less will do.
I take Ghostman’s suggestions to be: use clear, concise marketing messaging (always). Fight like hell.
I would also suggest using the rest of Marketing 101: in addition to the quick, effective, clear message, back it up with smart copy that answers all the questions in detail. Just don’t throw the details out there in a cloud and expect the message to be clear.
1. Make your point, stick to the point, don’t get fancy.
2. Back it up, as detailed as your target market wants or needs.
3. Be ready to fight like a mad dog to make sure your point is the one that carries the argument.
Remember, marketing is war.
I want to offer some positive affirmation here.
Remember that the Republican attack machine works like a charm from a position of strenght in numbers….But as the numbers dwindle–33%-37% those ad hominem attacks are falling on more and more people.
So the conundrum now faced by Bush/Rove is how to feed the base the red meat with out taking those pounds of flesh from the hides of those in the middle, who were once knee-jerkily part of the 90% support base for Bush.
So, they will attack and attack hard—but it is not without some very dangerously alientating consequences.
Not that anyone should sit on their hands and keep the powder dry—Mary Beth Cahills’ strategy in regards to the swiftboating of John Kerry. Fight back–but realize that the venom they use is also poisoning themselves.
-GSD
Ghostman at 11:36 am: “And, if that means we have to “bloviate†just as loudly as them…so be it. Nobody gets points for fighting clean…points only to to the winner.”
If the Democrats fight the way Republicans fight, then I would sit the election out. Dirty fights only appeal to the hardcore base. The Republican strategy is to lock up that base, and ignore everyone else.
I am not anyone’s “hardcore base”. I am independent. The reason that I will never again vote for a Republican for any office is because of the widespread corruption, and their political rhetoric is part of it. If the Democrats started with the same kind of rhetoric, if would (in my mind) make them look even more similar to the Republicans, a tendency they already have too much of.
oh, and as to radio: it’s a key battlefield. “we got nuthin” is basically the democrats response to an avalanche of right-wing radio. The radio microphone is a powerful pulpit, and we need to elbow our way back onto that pulpit. This air america thing is a start, but so much more can be done. It would be good, if one day Ms. Hamsher can write an article about how she was in some courtesy car and the driver was JUST GLUED to some democratic themed radio channel. And yes, the message might be as bloviating as the repubs…but its getting out!
Ghostman
cujo359 (#55) - Ronald Reagan and the scuttling of regulations, including THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE.
http://www.museum.tv/archives/.....ssdoct.htm
Taylor, Yahoo has a beta of a podcast service:
http://podcasts.yahoo.com/publish
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I don’t know these people but it looks promising:
http://gettingstarted.thepodcastnetwork.com/
Ps Yes Ghostman I agree about getting in the game.
The trouble is the other side owns the field.
And some of “our guys” too I think. Why else do they spend time in their reponses saying things like “Bush (or whatever R) is right in as much…” or “I don’t disagree…”
Paul Begala, I’m talking about you.
marksb - I’ve got podcasts and a hell of a publisher already. See my #33.
Taylor — my brother-in-law, a former news anchorman, thinks the scuttling of the Fairness Doctrine was one of the main facilitators in bringing us to this horrible place (media-wise). He’s written about it a bit more here (people always used to ask “who’s Loren” — well, that’s Loren) but like you he thinks it was a disaster.
Also, remember that Karl Rove is not superman. Not everything that happens is the result of his brilliant machinations.
Had he been the undisputed Boy Genius we have been led to believe, the Great Decider would not be scraping the bottom of the dumpster in the ratings race.
No one stays on top forever, no one is on all of the time.
One needs only read the “solutions” offered up by Josh Bolten to start to believe that the shark has been jumped, the train has left the station and the King indeed has no clothes, and a pretty small pud to boot.
So keep on fighting the good fight.
But be ready for some setbacks, pushback and paybacks too.
-GSD
Jane - Your brother-in-law is absolutely right.
It’s not a substitute for the progressive bloviating that may be needed to counter the insufferable soloists in Wurlitzerworld, but some incisive, passionate, often humorous music with rhythm and heart sure has a critical place in our national discussion. And it can especially hit the spot on an overcast Sunday in Berkeley. “I’m the Decider” (Koo-koo-ka-choo) just played as part of a fabulous set on Across the Great Divide, KPFA’s weekly 2-hour fest for lovers of such tunes. For those who haven’t heard it yet or need to hear it again, you can catch Paul Hipp’s brilliant adaptation of “I Am the Walrus” around 15 minutes into the show, which should soon join the streamable archive at http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?show=50.
and #58 just hit the proverbial NAIL ON THE HEAD. Kudos to Mr. 58.
Ghostman
darkblack
‘rubberstamp radio’ - that’s good coinage.
I see a bumpersticker w/Rush face and the Uni ‘no’ symbol over it. tagged w/’rubber stamp radio’.
Of course, district by district face of local R Rep w/red circle/slash and tag: “Rubber Stamp Congress”
Well, I agree with marksb #58, so I guess I just misinterpreted what you were saying, Ghostman. Sorry about that!
EMOTIONS
Talking politics with a couple of owner operator truck drivers at work the other day and they were explaining why they were republicans.
“Ted Kennedy is why I’m a Republican,” one of them chortled triumphantly. Sidestepping this red herring, I told them that the reason I’m a Democrat is the Republican ultimate goal of raw unfettered capitlism. And if it weren’t for the Democrats halting this tendancy, you guys wouldn’t be driving those big shiny trucks. We would all be driving for JB Rockerfeller for 12 cents a mile.
Taylor, I am going to email my buddies at the Phoenix Air America station that got it back up and running via volunteer donations.
The AM drive show 6-9am is done by Dr Mike who is a local physician who got tired of wingnut crap on the radio stations here and bought an hour every day back in 2003 on a wingnut station. He was moved to the 3-5 pm and was paid for it.
I was going to suggest it earlier but waiting until they had some of their kinks shook out.
Air America Phoenix
I agree 100% about Dems being clueless about radio but I do think they are starting to wake up. I listen to Air America way too much and also to Stephany Miller, Ed Schultz and others with my XM radio and streaming internet. I am hearing elected officals being interviewed, Kerry who would NOT touch progressive radio before 2004 is on Schultz frequently, Gov. Howard Dean has been on several of the shows. The new crop of candidates who are running are tapping into radio.
The Majority Report is spotlighting a Fighting Dem. BTW this week will be Jeff Latas who is running in AZ-08 for congress. Quite a guy. Jeff Latas
Congrats Oilfieldguy on grampa-hood…. been a Granny for 8 years. Just remember, that is one thing your kids do to you without asking your permission. And the second thing is that YOU get to decide what you want to be called. I am Nana…..
I believe that regurgitating the wingnut argument that Condi is a just as bad a leaker, plays into the Rovian “we have our truth, they have lies†game plan.
It would be more effective to call them out – attack at the weakness. There is no way that the repugs will allow this to come to trial. It would be best for them to keep this in the Heartland Wingisphere to whip the base. If all Democrats demanded that the repugs put up or shut up, they will have to explain – why isn’t she being charged with anything? Charging Mary McCarthy for this leak will put the administration’s practices on trial. With all the hard work avoiding congressional oversight on just this matter, there is no way Rove will allow it.
Analysis of Osama tapes show they are fakes:
http://www.whatreallyhappened......audio.html
Timeline of Osama Tape releases.
http://english.aljazeera.net/N.....4EA7FC.htm
-GSD
Oilfieldguy: The right response would be something like “Ted Kennedy is why you’re for tax cuts for rich people? Ted Kennedy is why you’re against affordable health care? Ted Kennedy is why you’re against medical advances (i.e., stem cell research)?” etc.
I have a subscription to Sirius Satelite Radio and listen to their talk left station on those long drives. Their talent pool is about 30 percent effective. I have no doubt there is a wide swath of untapped talent they could pull from but don’t. I wish they would bring some in perhaps as a showcase spotlight hour several times a week. It can’t hurt to fish around a little bit.
katymine - All efforts appreciated, believe me, and thanks.
Dems are getting it, but they need to be willing to go where I and others go, which is to the little podunk stations to talk about what’s important to Democrats. If you get to the people listening at the local level they will learn to trust you, listen for whom you are campaigning and maybe work and vote for them.
It’s terrestrial radio Democrats also need to discover, which is where the precinct work is competitive and we need to be. Not everyone can afford XM. That’s the biggest element Democrats are missing. Republicans get it and they’re winning partly because of it.
cbl
Thanks for the review on Talk Radio. Been on my ‘to rent’ list but; the list gets longer while $ get shorter.
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Also, other bumper stickers:
Rush face under red/circle-slash. tag: “Free vehicle” or “NOT On Board”
Bush face as above: tag ‘Decider’
Ok, now look at #75, somethingsrotten: now then, I disagree with his method of attack….but look at what he’s doing!!!! This #75 is thinking about how to ATTACK….THAT’S where our brainpower ought to go! Good for #75….he’s IN THE GAME. He and I may not agree on which play to call right now….but we’re both on the offensive. He’s in the game, and no longer sitting on the sidelines offering mere narration.
Ghostman
Jane Everyone,
I wonder do you know about dancewater? She’s Susan who posted a lot of the “Bring ‘em on” postings on Today in Iraq. She’s been unhappy with TII for a while and now blogs independently on News About Iraq
She works long hours and now is taking on this. Here’s an extract of her latest posting:
CASUALTY REPORTS
Local Story: Five Fort Hood soldiers die in mine blasts in Iraq.
Local Story: Bomb kills Miami soldier.
Local Story: State honors fallen heroes. (Hawaii)
Local Story: A life remembered. (California)
Local Story: Fort Campbell soldier is killed by bomb during combat in Iraq.
Local Story: Michigan soldier killed in blast in Iraq.
Local Story: Royal Scots soldier dies in bombing.
Local Story: Five Lejeune Marines killed in Iraq.
Local Story: Soldier from San Antonio killed in Iraq.
Local Story: Soldier from Miami-Dade killed by bomb in Iraq.
Local Story: Local Marine killed. (Ohio)
Local Story: Margate Marine killed by bomb in Iraq. (Florida)
Local Story: Kidnapped brother of Iraqi Sunni Leader killed.
Local Story: KY Guardsman wounded in Iraq dies.
Local Story: Marine from Henley killed in Iraq. (Missouri)
Local Story: Lauderhill family mourns Marine killed in Iraq. (Florida)
Local Story: Pendleton Marines killed in action in Iraq.
Local Story: Marine from Hoover dies in Iraq. (Alabama)
Local Story: Holmes Remembers Fallen Marine. (Kentucky)
Local Story: Pittsburgh soldier killed in Iraq on Saturday.
Local Story: Police recover 17 bullet-riddled bodies in Baghdad.
Local Story: Ex-John Curtis athlete killed in Iraq. (Louisiana)
Local Story: US assault on Fallujah leaves three Iraqi civilians dead.
Local Story: Funeral planned for felled soldier from Windsor. (Virginia)
Local Story: Huntington Beach Marine killed in combat in Iraq.
Local Story: Flags to be lowered to honor Michigan soldier.
Local Story: County mourns fallen soldier. (Iowa)
Local Story: Bloomington soldier dies in Iraq explosion. (California)
Local Story: Hawkinsville Marine remembered. (Georgia)
Local Story: Colorado soldier killed in Iraq.
Local Story: Funeral service set for fallen Marine. (Texas)
Local Story: Family says Kentucky soldier killed in Iraq.
Local Story: Four Fiji Nationals killed in Iraq.
Local Story: Life and death at age 22 for a Marine.
Local Story: Australian soldier dies in Baghdad.
Local Story: Canadian killed in Iraq.
Local Story: Funeral set for Saturday for NC – based Marine killed in Iraq.
Local Story: Lake Havasu City man killed in Iraq (Nevada)
Local Story: His time here was too short.
Local Story: Executed for the crime of entertaining the children.
Local Story: Slain soldier buried. (Missouri)
Local Story: Pride and tears at Marine memorial. (California)
Each of those “Local Stories” links to a paper or broadcaster in the state concerned.
All politics is local
As well as all this she goes on marches conferences and generally loves her country enough to work her ass off. She’s just been awarded the The Grace Lee Peace Award. It might be encouraging if some people reading this popped over and cheered her on.
I’d be really grateful if she could be added to the blogroll here. She also writes well maybe an ocassional guest blogging.
Hey ho got to get back to work - I’ll be doing a posting on your rootnets initiative before I leave the Office tonight in the wee small hours I’ll post a link to it here when I do that.
*poof*
markfromireland
Taylor Marsh @ 12:13 pm (#62) - Yes, the demise of the Fairness Doctrine certainly hurt the chances of any under-represented voice being heard on TV and radio. However, one of the things that have given the Republicans an advantage in that new environment is that the Democrats didn’t exploit the media as well as the Republicans. From your column, it seems that at least part of the problem is that the Democrats don’t recognize their importance.
kth #78
You should realize I was dealing with a typical Faux “News” viewer, who is bred in the shallow ends of the gene pool and their knuckles bleed when they walk. Rather than defend the “bogeyman” created to distract from the true agenda of consolidating wealth and power, I chose to show what fucking suckers they are. No one likes to feel they are being played for a chump, especially if you are being played for a chump.
FDL reader Pattern Recognizer informs me through comments that Atrios coined “Steno Sue.” My apologies to Atrios for the unintended slight.
actually, highly unlikely cause that moniker was floating around long before his blog.
TM @ 57:
Taylor, the encouragement/development of podcast and other ‘alt’ media usage on a wide-scale grassroots level to disseminate progressive thought is key, IMO.
The strategy of ‘mainstreaming’, a la Air America can only go so far because of the entrenchment levels of Neoconservative ‘thought’ in current formats, and the static nature of radio programming as ratings magnet…The incentive to switch to an unproven host/format is nonexistent as long as the arbs are high for assclowns like Limbaugh and Savage.
They have to be ‘termited’…Eat at their numbers by the attrition of migrating listeners away, and then Air America et al will be more effective by contrast.
Of course, a certain level of razzamatazz and borderline on-air behaviors is a component…Listeners have been conditioned to only hear the outrageous above the commercial carts and music beds.
Progressives must come to terms with such actions, however shameless they may think them, because it’s the only way to burn through such conditioning.
Taylor, we all know they’re shitting green nickels, as the reality-turds impact the whirling blades, both in Iraq, and here; with junior’s
“Hi!-I’m-Richard-Nixon-without-a-brain!” poll numbers staring them in the face. :o)
The whole thing now has the aspect of a lab-rat experiment…
How long will they beat their heads against the maze-walls of the truth before rodent-skulls implode and their little plastic crackerjack-box denial-queen tiaras shatter?
Most of the ones I know, are just going silent.
I hang out on a bluegrass site. They are not the frothing-at-the-mouth brownshirts you see on LGF, just decent conservatives, who are now in a terrible quandary.
Everything they’ve held dear, philosophically:
anti-choice; anti-”wasteful government spending” (Man, is THAT one evermore down the tube!); pro-laizzez-fuckeverybodyelse-capitalism; “getting government off the backs of the people” (Thanks, Ronnie! Is your library reading list approved by Homeland Security?)…
ALL of this, DEAD at risk, as the republican party, like the last, ageing, toothless, nearsighted T-rex, wanders off into the La-Brea-East tarpit.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer dinosaur. :o)
You got it, cujo359, but the Fairness Doctrine started it all.
The rise of the Republicans on radio began with Rush. Reagan’s deregulation allowed big corporations to step in and the rest is history. Republicans and big corporate media are in bed together and without regulations made it a love fest. Yes, the Democrats are dense as to the impact. I’ve been trying to explain what it’s costing us. When they see that maybe the Democrats will step in and fight for what we need, which is to re-establish a new Fairness Doctrine. If you don’t know what the lack of one has cost politically, why bother with trying to legislate a new one? Because, baby, if Dems attempt to resurrect the Fairness Doctrine, the political fur will fly!
Taylor, we got Sirius a few months ago. The TalkLeft channel is a nice change from what comes over the air here. Air America isn’t closer than Minneapolis or Wisconsin. But there are lots of hours that they fill with reruns of Thom Hartmann, Stephanie Miller, et al. I would think that fresh programming would be better.
Also, when the Young Turks were doing their Alito filibuster, they were broadcasting over the internet when they weren’t on the air. Among their guest hosts was Brad Friedman of BradBlog. I gathered that he had been on radio but isn’t now. Maybe web-based radio would be a place to start.
If you speak as well as you write, you should be on the air. Let us know what we could do in the way of viral marketing. Really.
Democrats have gave up so much territory, specific states and media.
Another big one that the ReThugs are tapping into is spanish language radio & print media. Did you know that ReThugs are putting in ads in papers from Mexico, Columbia and other countries for the Republican Party? Why, because those papers are imported to spanish speakers here, sold on news stands and found on barber/beautyshops across America.
It isn’t just a 50 state stragey, it must be 50 states Radio, print both English & other language stations. It is local TV and the public stations that are still left.
What THEY did is get involved, pushed their way in and made a nest in those venues and then breed. They hatched new little ReThugs and that is why we have Box Turtle Ben and whole host of Yellow ReThugs and the 101’st Fighting Keyboarders.
So what to do….. We get involved, make YOUR local Air America Station something besides canned programming from NYC. Find someone with enough money or do a fund drive to buy time on a local station and put OUR word out. Partner with the Latinos for Arizona/Texas/(what ever your state) and have them call in to the spanish radio stations and counter the wingnut crap.
Have a nice afternoon…. off to my Executive Committee Democracy for America meeting…..
And Taylor, I have been reading your blog for months…. I will call the producer of Dr Mikes show and talk to him…. he is a fellow DFA’er
Ghostman….comment 23
Right on…my thoughts exactly and I have been advocating this for some time. The problem is that there are still far too many Dems that abhor this reality…..
I’ve always said that if your opponent invites you to a brass knuckle fight….
bring a shotgun and use it.
Granted.. its not fair..but fairness is not what the fight was/is about.
I am sure this comment will invoke attacks but then the the naked truth usually does.
Thanks for your post BTW
Encouragement, not career advice is what you will receive from me, Taylor. I would not presume to think I could offer anything of help in the latter. It would be like you telling me when driving a truck with 200k gross weight with a 6 & 4 transmission with 460 rear ends, what gear should I use approaching a 5% decline in grade.
All the little radio-goebbels can’t change the reality of what’s happening in Iraq.
Which brings us to the question:
What’s next?
And we better start thinking about an answer, because the way things are going the endgame might kick in before the mid-terms get here.
Do we bring the troops home immediately?
Agree to a 6 month timetable? A year? Two years?
What do the various factions want?
Aside from being able to live in a place that isn’t a bushCo-manufactured chaos-theory petrie dish.
Will the place hold together without our troops there to keep half a lid on the latent civil war?
Mind you, these are the reasons to NOT have pulled the trigger, but the republicans who want to “stay the course” are going to hit us with both barrels about
“You guys don’t have a plan”.
They won’t be bothered an iota about the fact that THEY were the ones who set the house on fire, as we begged them not to do it.
So. Anybody got a plan?