
Last week Judge Reggie Walton threatened to issue a gag order after Libby's lawyers leaked a letter to the press written by Fitzgerald before it had been filed in the public docket. The judge gave both sides until today to make their case as to whether or not such an order should be issued. (We wrote about it here, and Jeralyn has the new PDFs.)
In this latest filing, Libby's lawyers play innocent and indicate their only desire was to set the record straight. In the interest of truth, "consistent with our desire to avoid trying this case in the media":
On Tuesday, April 11, the defense received the Letter from the government as an attachment to an e-mail message bearing a 5:17 pm time stamp.
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When we received the letter,we simply assumed that it was a publilc filing that was intended to be entered in the public docket, because we believed its sole purpose was to correct inaccurate statements in a publicly filed brief. Accordingly, we swiftly disseminated it to the media -- without any public statements by defense counsel -- for the purpose of preventing the publication of any additional incorrect reports that Mr. Libby, the President and/or the Vice President had lied to the press and the public. We sent he Letter to print, broadcast and electronic media outlets on Tuesday evening. The Letter was entered electronically on the public docket at 12:22pm on Wednesday, April 12.
It all sounds so very innocent, doesn't it? Fitzgerald has a slightly different version of events in his affidavit:
It has [] been the consistent policy of the attorneys on the team, including AUSA Randall Samborn, the Public Information Officer for the United States Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Illinois who handles press matters in this case, not to disseminate documents unless they have already been publicly docketed. Consistent with that policy, on April 11, 2006, when government counsel submitted to the Court (and copied to the defense) a letter correcting a sentence in the Government's Response to the Defendant's Third Motion to Compel, the letter was not provided to the press because the letter had not yet been filed publicly. During the evening of April 11, Mr. Samborn was surprised by a request for comment regarding the letter from a reporter who indicated that he had a copy of the letter. Mr. Samborn himself did not have a copy of the letter, nor could he find the letter on the docket. Subsequently, some articles articles were published indicating the government filings had been distributed to the media before they were publicly documented.
Byron York had a post up attacking Fitzgerald with a 7:00 pm timestamp. I'm not sure what time the Washington Post article went up but it was somewhere in that timeframe. Neither article mentioned that the letter had been provided to them by Team Libby. If the Libby lawyers are just trying to be so very damn transparent, why did they want to keep their fingerprints off this one?
It's hard to believe someone doesn't know where the bird went when they're sitting there with canary feathers all over their lips.
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FITZ CAUGHT THE CANARY and my cat pushed the cap lock key
Good on Fitz for clarifying that misunderstanding.
It seems to me that repugs of all stripes have gotten away with brazen lies for so long that they don’t even try to make their prevarications plausible any more. The bastards are ballsy, I’ll give ‘em that.
It seems unbelievable to me sometimes that these guys are adults, not ratfuc*ing college republicans.
And that canary? They got him from the mines. . .
Sounds like Comstock mechanics to me.
It’s strange how when you compare two lefty blogs, TalkLeft always seems to take the defense side of a crime story, while FDL seems to side with the prosecution.
Oh, wait. I guess I forgot.
Never mind.
Nothing like th3e smell of plamegate on a Friday night Jane. Thanks, I needed that.
ps: Fitz is hot.
Jane, your literary flourishes strike just the right note — your latest reminds me of tweety bird & sylvester: i laughed aloud
another public figure who’s trying to steal & subvert somebody else’s carefully thought out words is hillary — she now wants the generals who criticized rumsfeld to testify before the senate — it’s her way of making her own warmongering seem cut from the same cloth the generals wear — i trust that they won’t play up to her grandstanding ways
Someone posted a comment that John Edwards sent out an email, demanding that the Team Fitz mandate be extended to investigate some new facet of BushCo mendacity.
I think this is a good thing — does it have legs? It’s good, because it raises the stakes, and pushes Team Fitz closer to Untouchable territory; does it have any legs beyond that?
You gotta hand it to them,thats aduacity!So glad they got caught.
Don’t know why anyone should be surprised that Team Libby does not seem to be able to function without the constant presence of the media; if anything, the responses re the gag order should make it altogether clear to the judge that Team Libby believes with all its cold and evil heart that the media is a first-string player.
What I take from all of this is that TL’s need to co-opt the media is a solid indication that they know their case is weak, and their client is screwed. Their only hope is to continue to bamboozle a media that has no hope of getting complicated facts right in the 15-30 seconds of air-time it gets on the nightly news. Sadly, it’s been known to work, and quite effectively.
I think the judge needs to even the playing field and not only gag Team Libby (Team USA is already playing by the rules), but use duct tape for extra measure.
FWIW: I heard some commentator favorably report that Edwards has been traveling around talking up “censure”. Good for him!
“When we received the letter,we simply assumed that it was a publilc filing “
“because we believed its sole purpose was to correct inaccurate statements”
I call BULLSHIT on “Team Libby.” Others of you can, and will, give more detailed analysis on this “timeline”. But I call bullshit right now, and right up front.
Usually, I try to give some sort of detailed, reasoned analysis in my comments. But these quotes provided by Ms. Hamsher compel me to simply write what I’ve written above.
One last thing:
“It’s hard to believe someone doesn’t know where the bird went when they’re sitting there with canary feathers all over their lips.”
That’s got to be one of the most ingenious, well-written, brilliant sentences I have ever read. it’s a classic. Folks, you would do well to memorize this line…it can be applied to many things, and will always astound and amaze the listener or reader. Well done.
Ghostman
Thanks for the fix Jane. And you are right ccmask (#9) - Fitz is HOT!
undercoverdick;
Hillary is kinda like political tofu,bland and tastless,taking on the flavor of whatever is added to it.JMO.
ccmask says:
April 21st, 2006 at 7:04 pm
ps: Fitz is hot
I’d hit it!
(sorry wOOt)
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CondiLeaker
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....48_pf.html
Arcane legal subterfuges just blow by this ole rube, but the attorney Fizz, everyone’s hero it seems, has certainly been building his case forever.
I hate to be cynical, but folks have forgotten what he is building, and if it ever gets built, this case, what will be done about it once its built? Will it go to a court, to await some trial some where? Will any of the accused or accusers, defense or prosecuters still be around, or will they be long gone?
Just wondering.
Out here on the prairie there is one issue–the price of FUEL, and it has anyone involved in any kind of agriculture, or commerce, like shitting their pants. while they shitthe repukes bring Rove on board to help us hate immigrants and think cleansing our land of all 12 million illegals–Oh Rwanda, my sweet Bosnia, here dear Rove will make us proud to be white Christians protecting our shores from these genuine simulated south of the bored terraists. Rove, rove rove our boat, keep this shit of state afloat through the next midterm purchase of political power.
This is WOT, but someone in an earlier thread mentioned that he is disturbed by referring to Cheney as “five-deferments Cheney” because the fact of deferments is not black/white. I sympathize with that comment. Cheny is not a coward because he sought deferments. He is a coward because, as a student at WI-Madison during the war, he was up front and center to the protests that were on campus, and he RAN AWAY. He neither spoke in favor nor against. He chose to run from the conflict RIGHT IN FRONT of him. My husband and I are from Wi and went to college there. Mr. Dana lost his student deferment; his draft number was 7. He joined the Army and the ASA. (Don’t even get us started on how Judy couldn’t remember if she still had clearance.)
There was nothing cowardly about protesting the war or finding a way to get out of it. What’s cowardly is standing right there in the middle of the storm and refusing to take a stand.
I know this is not part of the current thread, but I just came from a bar where I was telling my husband about the prior thread, and the whole Cheney thing makes my blood boil. He has NO credibility.
Activists today at Stanford showed how it can be done: the Preznit was supposed to helicopter in to the Hoover Institute for a quick chitchat but folk occupied the planned rooftop helipad. No other landing spot could be found so the Preznit had to pass on by and fly to his next stop…
Oh well…
Great picture/article of Fitz. Thank you for feeding us plameaholics.
Daughter: getting married tomorrow.
Me*: complete basket case.
(*Me, egregious, not Me3)
Children, a great blessing, have this troubling tendency to grow up and develop their own lives. While this may seem extremely desirable during the teenage years, it is shocking when it actually happens. Sigh….
vox clamantis in red state says:
Arcane legal subterfuges just blow by this ole rube, but the attorney Fizz, everyone’s hero it seems, has certainly been building his case forever.
Really. He is busy, but WTF? Priorities?
Shit or get off the pot!
Now! If you got it, Do IT!
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Yeah, Fitz is hot. Justice is always attractive - especially with these criminals telling us up is down and the sky is green. Sigh. I need better leaders, man.
OMgoodness! just EPU’d
here is what I wrote:
Just saw this on Buzzflash. It’s another leak.
Lawyer: Rice Allegedly Leaked Defense Info
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...../21/AR2006 042101648_pf.html
So what do you suppose will happen to Condi?
OT (sorry), but I don’t think anyone has attacked Mr.Faith Based today…
From Hugh Hewitt’s interview of Joe Klein.
HewittRadio
Egregious, Only a FDLcoholic would think to say “Me, egregious, not Me3″! I remember when Me3 was Me. God, I’m getting old. *g*
OfT: “Chafee: ‘Arrogance hurt administration’s handling of war’”
Boston Globe
A Vichy Dem just read Fox’s latest poll of
Clusterfuck’sBush’s JAR.ummm…Chafee is a “moderate Republican”. Funny that folk would confuse him with a Vichy Democrat. Kinda telling about Vichy Democrats, eh?
Link to Comment 29 about Senator Chaffee
http://www.boston.com/news/loc.....ng_of_war/
Sorry.
egregious #23
Hang in there. My daughter’s date is May 20, and at this point, I’m still deep into the booze selection and ordering for the reception. (The darlin’ decided, for some reason, that I’m the most qualified for this job. Go figure.) Everything you say is — as the Brits style it — spot on.
But since I’m a month behind you, could I trouble you for a few words of encouragement in a day or two? It would help immensely. Thanks, and Mazel Tov! We are truly blessed.
for that matter: it was a common mistake for folk to assume that our Governor Evan Bayh was a moderate Republican…
Thanks *ilson.
That was very kind of you to be so diplomatic about my error.
Congratulations btw about making watertiger’s place with a pic.
egregious, Blessings to you and you daughter for a beautiful day tommorrow.
And congratulations on your biopsy results coming back clear.
It’s wonderful to have this community share news of their families, good as well as not so good. Lurking thoughts are with you all!
Libby gets indicted for lying about leaking to the media and now defends himself by leaking to the media.
What a douche.
In reference to my #26,
apologies for any double posts. It takes me such a long time to catch up reading all the wonderful and knowledgeable comments, that I’m always tens of comments late.
I’ll try to read faster.
something weird happening with my computer, so this is just a test…sorry!
Bull Goose 27
So according to Joke Line, if you don’t like someone it is okay to attack their personality, rather than on the substance.
Now I get it.
Well, I tried to do some forensic journalism, but w/o much in the way of results. BUT, just to make myself feel better for having wasted the time- not that it says too much- from FDL- first citing here:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ment-64185
Chady says:
April 11th, 2006 at 5:00 pm [this would be 8:00 pm EST]
Just read that Pat Fitzgerald has made a correction to a sentence in his April 5th filing.
FWIW
Dana- yeah- I too remember when Me3 was Me !!!
William Timberman 32–It will have to be at least Tuesday for wedding advice. Saturday is the ceremony. Sunday is for my hangover. Monday is a pre-scheduled nervous breakdown. So Tuesday, good for you?
Wedding advice to my daughter, and to friends/fdl folk in general: the goal is a beautiful day, not a perfect day. Little things will always go wrong no matter how careful the plans. Helpful to arrange reception seating based on potential hurt feelings if your extended family has as much bipolar or adhd as mine. Night before the wedding: don’t drink so much that you will be sick at the ceremony. Transportation: ask friends to drive or hire cars because you are likely to be in a state of shock. I went from just anxious to nearly catatonic sometime last night. How I am able to type this is unknown, some kind of residual autotype facility located in the fingers.
Congrats to you and your family, and wishing you the joy of grandchildren!
———–egregious
omg. here I am trying to catch up on my FDL lurking, and thre are like 537 comments on one thread! holy comments, batman! gonna be a long nite.
Fitz seems to be shrugging off the whole idea of a gag order, because he doesn’t have Department of Dirty Tricks. Team Libby, on the other hand…
Wow,you read the comments when catching up!Props dude!
egregious at 23 — congrats, sorry you are a basket case.
Did you do the whole lock and key chastity thing Digby mentions? :~)
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com.....7564152568
PS Nothing egregious about two people in love.
Egregious - have a wonderful day!
and remember that the little quirks will be the great stories in a few years
Valley Girl, Do you remember when the regulars were at some point kind of creeped out by Me because he was so certain in his knowledge of Fitz, and then we all grew to anticipate and hope for his confident postings? Now, of course, Me3 has his own site, fusioner board.
Back to #7
“It’s strange how when you compare two lefty blogs, TalkLeft always seems to take the defense side of a crime story, while FDL seems to side with the prosecution.”
Can anyone show me a righty blog where clear repetition is not in evidence? or a pair of righty blogs who might even marginally differ from one another?
Shall we begin to redefine BI-partisan, as “thoughtful” ???
egregious (and then Will T.)
I hope someone is there with a video, esp. to record the reception. One of my sisters had a extravagaza blowout wedding- pretty stressful- and she said that she didn’t remember much about it- didn’t even know who talked to her at the reception until she saw videos after.
Also, I was a bridesmaid (maid of honor?) and I took a tape recorder into the dressing room and recorded the pre-wedding hysteria (undercover, of course). Gave the tape to my sister later. It was pretty hilarious to listen to later.
Dana,
Is that the same guy that used to comment on HuffPo as’Fusioner’?
DMM, Yes, one and the same.
Joe Klein is an embarrassment; can’t for the life of me understand why Time considers him a liberal, or why Klein allows a slug like Hugh Hewitt (sorry, but who gives their kid a name like “Hugh” when their last name is “Hewitt?” Makes him sound like a member of the owl family) to bitch slap him around like that.
Dana #48 Valley Girl, Do you remember when the regulars were at some point kind of creeped out by Me because he was so certain in his knowledge of Fitz, and then we all grew to anticipate and hope for his confident postings?
I certainly do remember!!! Me posted the first stuff, and then stopped posting for a while (don’t know why- maybe bec. of the mixed reaction) and then people were begging him to come back. I loved all of his posts at the time. He posted a lot of info about how Fitz goes about things, and that was an education.
egregious # 42
congratulations ! you watch, tomorrow will be a fabulous day and all that creeping catatonia you’re feeling will be gone with the morning.
hope sometime we can talk about life w/ ADHD and Bi Polar (#! I hate the use of the term: Disorder)
but that’s a few threads down the road - Enjoy A Great Day Tomorrow!
SPEAKING OF LEAKS….CONDI implicated in criminal leak to aipac and israel.
Lawyer: Rice Allegedly Leaked Defense Info
By Matthew Barakat
The Associated Press
Friday 21 April 2006
Alexandria, Va. - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice leaked national defense information to a pro-Israel lobbyist in the same manner that landed a lower-level Pentagon official a 12-year prison sentence, the lobbyist’s lawyer said Friday.
Prosecutors Disputed the Claim
The allegations against Rice came as a federal judge granted a defense request to issue subpoenas sought by the defense for Rice and three other government officials in the trial of Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman. The two are former lobbyists with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee who are charged with receiving and disclosing national defense information.
Defense lawyers are asking a judge to dismiss the charges because, among other things, they believe it seeks to criminalize the type of backchannel exchanges between government officials, lobbyists and the press that are part and parcel of how Washington works.
During Friday’s hearing, U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III said he is considering dismissing the government’s entire case because the law used to prosecute Rosen and Weissman may be unconstitutionally vague and broad and infringe on freedom of speech.
Rosen’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell, said the testimony of Rice and others is needed to show that some of the top officials in U.S. government approved of disclosing sensitive information to the defendants and that the leaks may have been authorized.
Prosecutors opposed the effort to depose Rice and the other officials. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kevin DiGregory also disputed Lowell’s claim, saying, “She never gave national defense information to Mr. Rosen.”
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042106Y.shtml
Also, if memory serves correctly, the Me3 name came about bec. someone said “I love FDL” and then Me said MeTwo or Me2, but then changed it to Me3. Maybe don’t have the details correctly, but that was the spirit.
FWIW: Happy 80th Birthday, Betty Battemberg. Having fireworks at your party is way cool …
chicago tom:
My first thought was to look closely at the DiGregory statement…”never gave national defense information to Mr. Rosen”.
There are currently two defendants, Rosen and Weisman - not to mention Franklin who pled guilty.
I wonder whom she DID give national defense info to.
back to 19
“CondiLeaker”
guess I’m into redefining National Security too… Franklin is in prison for 12 years and Condi shared the same IDLE CHIT-CHAT, who’s minding the store? (can Condi declassify too?)
egregious~
Many blessings and happiness. I hope you and your family have many beautiful moments and lovely memories. Please let me know how to you managed and I’ll be happy to employ your strategies later on this year as my son is getting married this summer.
I haven’t had much experience with weddings and the nerves they touch. But it is already all wedding all the time here. Tomorrow, while your daughter is having her wedding, we will be putting together the wedding announcements/invitations. I will keep her nuptials and happiness in mind.
egregious #42
Yr. a prince. Tuesday’ll be fine, or whenever. Thanks again, and again, all the best to you and yours on Saturday. I’m sure everyone will treasure it, family looniness notwithstanding. (We’ve got a fine bunch of loonies, too — hasn’t everyone?)
And here’s an anecdote for you. When I was much younger, two of my friends got hitched. The groom was the son of Jewish immigrants from Poland, actually born there. The bride was a third generation Irish Catholic, daughter of a navy captain. They were married in a naval chapel by both a priest and a rabbi (in 1968, mind you.) Afterwards, at the reception, on a nice redwood deck at her parents’ San Diego house, the two families congregated at opposite ends. Until…. One of her drunken uncles, who had a fine tenor voice, sat down at the piano in the living room. He was joined by one of the groom’s uncles with a violin — and the next thing you know….
I swear this isn’t an off, off Broadway play, but a true story. Best wedding I ever attended, including my own. They didn’t exactly roast goats and dance for three days, but everyone had a wonderful time. May your daughter’s wedding be just that wonderful.
*ilson- so you are an Anglophile?
egregious,
congratulations. I’m probably two years out from the same ceremony for my daughter. At least some expensive things don’t get effected too much by the ionospheric fuel prices.
Vally girl,
I remember he was pushing his site hard on HuffPo,kinda too hard.Glad to hear he’s doing all right.As I recall he was trying to start a ‘grass roots’ thing.A bug thats startin to bite me,thanks to Pach.
VG, I don’t remember quite why Me changed to Me3. I thought there was another Me, but in any case, I remember all you say and certainly the spirit of that dynamic. I used to feel so comforted. Crazy, isn’t it?
As for what’s going on in between our nostalgia, I wish something icky would stick to Condi. Maybe the owl droppings from Hugh Hewitt.
*ilson46201 #14~
Edwards sent out this letter to his past supporters today:
Dear Friend,
Over the past few weeks, the investigation into the leak of CIA secrets on Iraq has produced disturbing new information. Court filings in the Scooter Libby case have connected both President Bush and Vice President Cheney with an effort to selectively disclose classified and highly flawed intelligence to the media in order to discredit people who were asking legitimate questions about the Iraq invasion. The White House even admitted that President Bush himself authorized the disclosure.
Now that he is firmly linked to this deepening scandal, it’s time for President Bush to level with the American people about his role in this egregious manipulation of sensitive intelligence. But you and I know he’s not going to do it. And we know that the Republican-controlled Congress will not hold him accountable either.
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald may very well be the only person who can shed light on what really happened and ensure accountability. What he needs now is our support to expand the scope of his investigation to specifically include whether the President broke the law. Let’s put our online community to work and together demand that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales allow Mr. Fitzgerald to get to the bottom of this. No one should be above the law. It’s time we demand real accountability. Please sign the letter now.
http://oneamericacommittee.com.....ility_act/
Clearly, there is precedent for a special prosecutor’s mandate to be expanded when he comes across further wrongdoing in the course of an investigation. I can think of no better time for doing this than right now. This case has all the elements of becoming one of the most serious breaches of the public trust in our nation’s history - with consequences that we are all too familiar with.
The facts of President Bush’s involvement, and the extent to which he manipulated intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq, are not going to come out unless his actions are subject to an independent investigation. Remember, this is a President who at first said that he didn’t know of anyone in his Administration who had leaked anything. Then he had his spokesman say that anyone found to have leaked classified information would be fired. Now it turns out it was President Bush himself who authorized the leaks.
But it is clear this Administration will go to any length to prevent the facts from being known. We can’t let them get away with it. And they won’t if we speak up and make the Attorney General understand that the American people will accept nothing less than the truth. Please sign the letter and tell Attorney General Gonzales that we want no stone left unturned in this important investigation.
http://oneamericacommittee.com.....ility_act/
Thank you for taking action and for all that you do.
Your Friend,
John
WT- great story. And, BTW, IIRC, egregious is xx. (sorry e if I’m wrong)
egregious - have a wonderful time at your daughter’s wedding. You may think you’re nervous, but as soon as your daughter takes your arm, your dad skills will kick in and you’ll be fine.
Disposable cameras on the tables are great, and so are tape recorders for people to record their favorite stories of the bride and groom.
It’s hard not to be thinking back to all those milestone moments without major tear leakage, but what’s the point of holding back the emotions? Have a blast!
chicago tom,
re #56. Sadly, this happens every day. Even more sadly, it is a one-way street. We get nothing from those guys in return. They sell our people to the USSR (Pollard), they sell our secrets to China (the mini-AIWACS tech deal), they prop up apertheid South Africa for a decade and test a neutron bomb in the Antarctic Ocean with the same. I could whine on and on.
OMG - if egregious is the mother of the bride, I sincerely apologize for thinking otherwise! It’s late and my brain is toasty around the edges…
Damn. You folks KILL on this story.
You really do.
WT–liked your wedding story! Those are the joys you always remember, precisely because they weren’t planned.
22, knowing what a Presidential visit to central Oregon and a forest fire did to communications and transportation a couple of years ago… DID THIS REALLY happen?
could a group of “folks” position themselves in the way of Secret Service sweeps? Was the Bush landing deflected???
knowing (yes, I was born 1945, so I was “an observer” that Stanford was WAY BEHIND the Berkeley movement during Viet Nam protests, my heart (hoping for anti anything demonstrations) beats faster… was this a marker event???
More details, please???
dana,
there was another me or maybe two. They lasted about a week or less.
Thanks all for the lovely wishes.
William Timberman–”yr a prince” that would be “yr a princess” please :D
Leslie–general advice: it’s about my daughter’s happiness, not me doing everything my extended family wants. Not everyone can be invited. We have 40 immediate family members but it could have been 70. I invited only a couple friends. Most people are her/their friends. Isn’t it better that way? I did successfully advocate for inviting my mother’s brother, who is not in great health, and they rarely see each other. But I was not successful in asking for spaces for first cousins that I grew up with. Compromise.
It always costs more than you think even with a good budget. Helpful to have a wedding planner unless you like being a detail czar. I did plan our wedding some years ago down to the last paperclip, but that’s just me. (me egregious not me3 :) :) Need to spend time thinking about the feelings of other guests and getting to know people in the other family, not so easy for an introvert. Prefer to stay home hiding under a blanket eating cookies.
DMM- I don’t read HuffPo, so I didn’t follow that part of the story. But, I do know that Me3 was very much into encouraging everyone to write letters to editors and such, and provided a lot of links to his board that had sample text. Not so much pushing his site then, as pushing the idea for everyone to get involved. After a while IIRC he said that he was going off to do battle at right wing blogs, and so he wouldn’t be posting on FDL much. But, every so often, he would post at FDL a bunch of links to his site- new letters, etc. People who didn’t know who he was (newcomers) would cry SPAM! but then FDLers would step up to the defense. Anyway, judging by that, I don’t think he would have been trying to promote his own site on HuffPo, rather trying to push for involvement. jmv
ET, Ah, so I was remembering correctly! Thanks. It’s a small thing, but still.
ilson46501, The president’s chopper landed on Stanford campus on the intramural fields next to the hospital. The Hoover Fellows who were to meet bush at the Hoover tower building escaped out the back, after greeting the passengers of a white SUV and black limo behind the building, via three white vans with police escort. The “official story” was that Marine one was to land on the athletic fields next to the stadium. The route from these athletic field to Hoover tower were all cordoned off and policed with riot control officers. This was a ruse to attract the demonstrators away from the actual arrival of bush to meet with his minions at the Hoover Institute. They were wisked away to the university president’s palatial house, and Marine One was going to pick up the president at the same place they had dropped him off. They were still securing the playing fields by the hospital when I left. The only helipad that I am aware of on Stanford campus is at the hospital. The employees leaving the hospital at 5 pm were not amused that the bus service to the parking area was not in service, and they had to walk a half mile to their cars. Some were not allowed to get their cars, because they had the misfortune to park too close to the fields this morning, and their cars were in the restricted area. Bush, once again doing a heckuva job pissing working people off.
egregious — hope you have a wonderful time.
Looking into articles and commentaries on the accusations against Secretary of State Rice. This may become quite serious.
apropos the Hoover non-visit by Bush http://www.mercurynews.com/mld.....400850.htm
I saw Me3 on HuffPo too, and Valley Girl is right in her interpretation of intent. Everyone here did see the difference between what he was doing and what blogwhores do. He was one of our own at an important time in the development of this community.
Hi Jane! Whatcha been doing in LA? Inquiring minds want to know. Partying a bit, I hope!
Valley Girl–ya it’s xx, but if I keep going on the wine it’ll be xxx :)
Anne–at the rehearsal she took both of our arms to process down the aisle, I was fine, the run-thru went smoothly, still fine, about to get in the cars for the dinner: hugged her and just burst into tears. This is my oldest, at one point in her very young life we spent every waking moment together. Until she was 3 years old I literally knew where every idea of hers came from: parents, friends, Sesame Street, pre-school, church. After that she began to leave, and is still leaving.
The umbilical cord may have no nerves, but I think the better analogy is placenta abruptio. It hurts. It feels like it is too soon. [she is 25, and quite a grownup] Joy for her, mixed joy and grief for me her mom.
BTW, The building where Bush couldn’t land was where the last office of my nom de blog (Edward Teller) was located. Things have changed at Stanford. It isn’t San Francisco State or Berkeley, but the Hoover Institute has an incredibly conservative history.
egregious - am both sympathetic and totally envious. I wish you an absolutely great day that you will remember (fondly) forever - please enjoy the heck out of it!
On another topic, I think Joe Klein’s remarks of late, especially the interview with Hugh Hewitt, have actually been very positive. The liberal blogsphere’s “attacks” (to hear him talk about it) have served to force him (the real him) out into the open and they’ve exposed his real (rightwing) leanings, along with his disdain for the left. It seems to me that our “attacks” are starting to make it impossible for him to continue his “liberal” charade. We’re making some progress…
Doncha think?
Me3 taught a lot of us how to get involved, his address lists made it easier to get involved, and his certainty that we were right made it imperative to get involved. There was no self-promotion, there was only rabble-rousing in the best sense. Hear, hear!
egregious #76~
Thanks for the words of wisdom. Isn’t it the truth (about their happiness)! The bride wanted to have a large wedding in a “castle” out of state. None of us really liked the idea, but it is about their happiness. Later she rethought it - on her own - changed the venue to one closer to home and remains blissful.
Best wishes for tomorrow. Too many words for my ever so small brain tonight. Hang in there and luck to you
WT #32~ I thought you wrote you were “into the liquor” :):) I thought, ‘that sounds like a good way to get through all this’ - and I don’t drink :)
ET, Oh, I hope so. Condi’s so deserving of the stink eye!
“but the Hoover Institute has an incredibly conservative history.”
It wasn’t named The Roosevelt School, was it now?
Valley Girl,
Sigh…my brain is unavoidably xy, and I haven’t been around FDL long enough to know all the dramatis personae. My apologies to e, but I gotta figure, a Mom’s advice is gotta be highly valued, even if she can’t tell me how to avoid looking like an undertaker in my tux.
egregious~
I send you best wishes for a wonderful wedding with your daughter and almost new son in law. Take it from the “Mother of the Bride” 10 years ago next month that you WILL survive and each time you watch the video you will see more things to remember. Relax and have fun…it will be a wonderful time…then in 10 years hopefully there will be grandchildren to play with…it is the greatest blessing in the world!!
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*ilson,
That’s the building where my namesake and his minions cooked up “Star Wars.” What a cost-effective program that has been, eh? Between that, this war, the Osprey and the F-22, we could send every kid in America to college for free for the next - or past - twenty years. Easily.
egregious- have a happy and wonderful day. One of the big questions during the hours leading up to my sister’s wedding, like right down to the minute, was “Where’s Mother?” So, just make sure you don’t go overboard on the vino!!! ;) Said in all good spirits, with a smile. xxo to you and yours.
#94 - WTF?
ck, 11: “Someone posted a comment that John Edwards sent out an email, demanding that the Team Fitz mandate be extended to investigate some new facet of BushCo mendacity.”
In fact, Fitzgerald’s mandate is already quite expansive. Here is a copy of the letter from Deputy AG Comey to Fitz granting him the “plenary powers” of the AG’s office to pursue avenues that may grow out of the underlying investigation to the Plame leak. This does not appear to give him the rights to conduct fishing expeditions, but it does give him authority to go above and beyond the isolated issue of who authorized outing Plame, provided it is related.
The Wingers have cried foul over this and in fact claim that Comey lacked the authority to appoint Fitz in the first place, much less enjoy plenary powers of the AG’s office.
Department of Justice QUI PRO DOMINA JUSTITIA SEQUITUR
Office of the Deputy Attorney General Washington, D.C. 20530
February 6, 2004
The Honorable Patrick J. Fitzgerald United States Attorney Northern District of Illinois 219 S. Dearborn Street Chicago, Illinois 60604
Dear Patrick:
At your request, I am writing to clarify that my December 30, 2003, delegation to you of “all the authority of the Attorney General with respect to the Department’s investigation into the alleged unauthorized disclosure of a CIA employee’s identity” is plenary and includes the authority to investigate and prosecute violations of any federal criminal laws related to the underlying alleged unauthorized disclosure, as well as federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, your investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted; and to pursue administrative remedies and civil sanctions (such as civil contempt) that are within the Attorney General’s authority to impose or pursue. Further, my conferral on you of the title of “Special Counsel” in this matter should not be misunderstood to suggest that your position and authorities are defined and limited by 28 CFR Part 600.
Sincerely,
/s/ James B. Comey James B. Comey Acting Attorney General.
There were reports a while back that had Fitz looking into the Niger forgery but there hasn’t been any news about that since.
I’m not trying to drag him down,matter of fact,two thumbs up!I found this site from Jane’s posts at HuffPo,used to hang there more,thus was around for many of his comments,then he dissapered.Now I’ll be watching for Me3.Another good blogger I found there is BobcatJH ‘Hughes for America’.No Idea if he comments here or not.Its a good read though.FDL is home base for me though
Jesus, what’s #94? Somebody delete.
Ditto ET-
agave, accidental texan - you’re new here, right? Post doesn’t look usual for FDL. Would you care to explain yourself?
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agave, #94
Whatever you have I hope it’s not contagious.
they don’t grow agave in Texas, even accidentally, do they?
“canary feathers all over their lips…”
Oh, lovely. Thanks for the mental picture and the masterful turn of phrase.
Agave, in need of kaopectate? Helps with verbal diarrhea.
VG, counting every ounce. Not quite to xxx yet but need to watch. Am scottish after all.
Nanamoe thanks for good wishes!
William Timberman, we think you look great in a tux and we are waiting for you to send photos. No need to apologize, you would laugh at the many egregious, sorry, mistakes that I made as a new commenter here (and perhaps even recently :o …..)
Whatever you have I hope it’s not contagious.
…Perrier Flu…
War talk: spoke to many family members about concerns re war with Iran. Some folks are from Ohio, so am bringing up voting machine fraud with the League of Women Voter types. Working with people at their level of understanding, bringing them along gently.
Surely if you had told me 3 years ago that our government would lie us into a war of aggression, I would have expressed profound disbelief.
egregious- scottish- well, after the wedding you need to put your feet up and dive into a good single malt.
VG - nice to see the Me3 nostalgia! back in the day, eh?
and CBL - one of my kids was ADD (and I am somewhat though it’s easing with time) and the other kid was diagnosed bipolar at one point but now it seems like that was not accurate. Thom Hartman who does political stuff now has written some great things about ADD - very practical info and well grounded. You might want to check his stuff out.
Jane,
You are one smart person. I invite you to bring a film crew and follow the team around over the next few months for historical purposes.
http://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com
Anyone here know much about the AIPAC case that’s about to slime Condi ?- like many, am familiar with the outline but,
what I really want to know is has AIPAC cut these 2 “lobbyists” loose, under the bus, etc., or is it in AIPAC’s best interest that these 2 are ‘vigorously’ defended and acquitted ?
only on WaPo right now, will be interesting to see if it “breaks” by Sunday Morning Talk
Hey, I worked all day and half the night and just got home to catch up. Saw this post:
Leslie says:
April 21st, 2006 at 7:29 pm
OMgoodness! just EPU’d
here is what I wrote:
Just saw this on Buzzflas