
(Tonight's guest poster is Red Dan who uncovered Ben Domenech's identity on RedState as "Augustine")
Let’s delve into the writings of one of the motivators and founders of a site that, until recently paraded “Collaborative Republicanism for the Masses” as their masthead…up until the point that the GOP brand (or perhaps the RedState brand?) was so tainted that the catchphrase was changed to “Conservative News and Community."
Tacitus, a.k.a Josh Trevino, who of late has been rushing about defending and bolstering his friend Ben “Augustine” Domenech’s tattered reputation (including declaring that he has no respect for honor codes – a startling admission for someone who spends an inordinate amount of time talking about honor)…is apparently a cleverer sort than some of his more loudmouthed brethren.
Josh, you see, is far too urbane to go around blabbing his secret fantasies about folks closer to home – unlike some of the swamp-things previously cited on these pages. (Well, except when he gets all hot and bothered enough to reiterate his friend Ben “Augustine” Domenech’s smears of the King family):
…all these un-conservative things were deeply-held beliefs of Martin Luther King. Add in the rest. Add in the evidence already discussed; add in his involvement with causes like the Poor People’s Campaign; add in the promotion of public-employee unions he was engaged in when he died; and add in his personal failings. He was a plagiarist. He was a base philanderer. He was a willing transmitter of Communist and defeatist memes in one of our nation’s darker hours. He was a regular columnist for The Nation.
But back to the main point – Josh does not often come out of the closet when referring to Americans, English-speakers, or neighbors: It’s too risky, it opens him and his allies to broad and withering fire from all sides (Liberals and other humans aghast at such putrid views, and others who might agree, but do NOT want such views aired in public – I call them the “shhhh” crowd.)
No, Josh is an expert at externalizing the rage, and blaming an “other” that is far removed from most folks’ experience, speaks a different language, and worships a different deity. Once demonized through carefully filtered selections and carefully amplified instances, that “other” provides the basis and the excuse to justify any number of “gedankenexperments” up to and including meandering bloviations about genocide…read on, you’ll see. An analysis of Trevino/Tacitus’ “contributions” reveals a component of racist demagoguery that has so far not been addressed: Islam, Arabs, and non-Christians. Our Friend Josh and his pals want a holy war, and they want it bad. Really bad. The enemy is identified! The Saracens are on the march!
Tacitus, unplugged, or is it unhinged:
Lovely people, keeping alive the grand tradition of lynching and all. What is it with folks in this part of the world and the frenzied public desecration of dead bodies? Mogadishu, Ramallah, and now Mosul. Alive and well alongside slavery, female genital mutilation, and religious apartheid in places populated mostly by....well, here we go again with the Islam versus culture versus "it's all exaggerated" versus "the Tamils do it too" arguments…. Barbarous savages.
Well, the first instance used as an excuse for labeling an entire people “barbarous savages” turned out to be a false alarm. But not to worry, Holy Warriors! The phrase is easily typed and its utility has no expiration date:
Just curious -- can I call them barbarous savages now? Well, no matter. I absolutely do. This is who we're fighting, folks. If you don't think there's a direct connection between terrorism, culture, and barbaric scenes like this, think again.
Appeasers are among us, and we call them Dhimmi! Bush is a Dhimmi! crossposted at RedState Racists Think So TOO!
I have argued many times that the President's most egregious and damaging lie, the carping of partisans notwithstanding, was the one he told in apparent sincerity: that "Islam is peace." […] Sensible people admit that this nation is, ultimately, at war with Muslim orthodoxy, not in whole, but in large part: the social place of Islam according to its traditional theology, and the impetus to jihad and the imposition of dhimmitude thereof, are the insurmountable obstacles to lasting peace between the Muslim world and the rest of humanity. One of two things will bring about that peace. Either Muslims will embrace something more broadly pluralistic and, yes, private -- or we as a society will capitulate. Actually, that's not entirely true. There is a third thing that will bring about peace: genocide. […] …there's a reason Muslim terrorists run amok across the globe while Methodist and Hasidim bombers do not.
He’s brave enough to criticize Dear Leader, demonize a billion people, and contemplate genocide, all in the same piece of writing. Dhimmis infest the governments of Europe, the Media, and everywhere else! And then there is Tacitus/Trevino’s extended series on “Dhimmitude” which includes:
Barbarian hordes are destroying France!!!
For the ninth night, the cities of France burn. The nation of Charles Martel and the men of Tours suffers the blows of the enemy it once turned back from Europe’s heart. So it comes to pass that insurrection spreads, destruction and havoc reign, and the very elderly are burned alive at the hands of the jihadists of the Fifth Republic. […] Indeed, the Muslim rebellion in France is hardly the first — nor the last — example of jihadist barbarism in modern Europe. […] Islam is truly the enduring challenge of and to European identity.
The citadel of Christendom is burning!!!
It is the tenth night of the intifada in France …. As the battles drag on, their insurrectionary character becomes ever more stark. It is no longer a question of a few Parisian suburbs: every community in France with a significant Muslim population, “from Rouen in Normandy to Bordeaux in the southwest to Strasbourg near the German border,” is under threat.
And so it comes to this. Having expended sufficient rage on the symbols of their enemies, the still-irate masses of Islam move on to the enemies themselves. I have already noted whom they perceive those enemies to be: Christians now join the hated Jews as bêtes noirs of the Presidentially-sanctioned religion of peace. That the mass of despised may not identify as Christians — and in Europe this may be particularly true — is wholly irrelevant to the offended hordes. The West is a Christian entity, and Westerners are products of the Christian heritage.
Note that Enchiridion Militis has an entire section devoted to “Dhimmitude” and the capitulation of western governments and media to the hated enemy – Islam! I think that the site should be named Christian Warriors on the Web, but its name is taken from Erasmus’ Handbook for the Christian Soldier, or The Manual of the Christian Knight, and it is a creation of RedState founder Josh Trevino, who sums up the basic thrust of the site as follows:
This we hold: That we are of the West, that its culture matters, that its faith matters, that humanity matters, and that these things are worth defending: and that when we abandon these things, the enemy rushes in to fill the void. Founded by Joshua Treviño in 2006.
and is host to many RedState front-pagers and editors…have a look – it ain’t pretty. Christendom, Unite! To Arms! The Mussulmen are nigh!
The theme continues at “Spot-on”
We care about Europe out of common interest: its enemy is ours. We have seen that enemy at work of late…. What to call that enemy is a conundrum all its own. Some would have it that the foe is political Islam; others a radical Islam; others a national or cultural stridency in which Islam is merely an incidental tool; still others a false Islam. Certainly we can say what it is not: it is neither the infantile, sanitized faith touted by the shallow minds of the present Administration; nor is it the innocently beleaguered victim of its dhimmi-minded predecessor. And certainly we can say who, if not what, threatens us: people who identify as Muslim, and are prepared to do violence to that end.
So…where does this leave us (other than with a bad taste in the mouth and imagery of Josh Trevino sitting at his keyboard wearing a suit of armor and fantasizing about the recapture of Malta, or whatever)?
By demonizing the “other” either at home (as has been so deftly dealt with by the superstars who preceded me in this series) or abroad, the partisans and activists of the Right – the GOP, the Conservatives, the “Libertarians,” their fellow travelers, and their useful idiots – have devised a means of pushing regressive policy by selective targeting of (it must be coincidental) Brown, Black, and Non-Christian people upon whom can be heaped blame for any failures of Dear Leaders, excoriation for any ills suffered by American (white) society, and hatred for all that is not perfect in the lives of these small, contemptible people.
Do you want to cut welfare? Go after black and brown single mothers!! Do you want to destroy Federal infrastructure, emergency programs, relief for disasters, or aid for rebuilding? Katrina got you down and making your Boy King look like an utterly incompetent fool? Looters! Shoot the Looters! And then there’s that whole Mayor Nager thing… Do you want to justify and promote vigilantism and beef up budgets for cracker-ridden “security forces” in the Southwest? How about some pictures of Mexicans, Central and South Americans coupled with a few choice “wetback” insults and pseudo-academic “analyses” of labor and immigration!
But if you want to beef up the President’s stature, rescue the Neocons from their own stupidity, justify massive military budgets, war without end, and engage in Risktm-inspired imperialist fantasies about encircling China and controlling the world’s petroleum reserves? May I suggest you snap a few pics of irate, turbaned, swarthy folks in far lands… couch it all in the “culture war” ethos, add a few hefty dashes of Christian Dominionism and Opus Dei-inspired whackjobbery about clashes of civilizations and “Dar al Islam” and…VOILA! Instant Holy War, a few victories in the polls, and a clean slate to slash taxes, gut federal programs, eviscerate governmental oversight, and trash the constitutional checks and balances on executive power.
And at the root? Racism, fear of the other, and abhorrent justifications of any and every bloody excess simply out of hatred, ignorance, and steroidally-enhanced triumphalism more appropriate to the 13th century than today.
Previous posts in the series:
Right Wing Racism: Steve Sailer by Armando
Educating Wolfie by Pam Spaulding
Let’s Go Real Far Right… by Matt Stoller
Tramsmitting Extremism by David Neiwert
The Fork in the Road — The Right and Race Online by Steve Gilliard
Late Night FDL: A Thin Candy-Coat of Legitimacy by TBogg
What Lies Beneath by Matt O.
Breaking The Code by Digby
Matt O. has also been compiling racist quotes from right-wing websites over at The Great Society.
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Monty Python! sorry ;) going back to read now.
Saladin!
[picturing the subject garbed appropriately, prancing around, shouting, “We are the Knights of KNEE! KNEE!]
Heh.
in downtown Indianapolis I recently saw a woman with a handbag bearing the slogan: Remember 732 ! I politlely asked her if it referred to Charles Martel and the Battle of Tours. She was astounded a stranger on the street would know. She told me folk need to remember Western Civilization’s decisive battle in light of 9/11. I was for once speechless.
I just have to say Fitz!
Dan thanks so much. That thread the other night where all the LGFers showed up and were desperate to provide an intellectual rational for their sentiments was fascinating. I left a lot of comments up that I would normally cut if they appeared in the middle of another thread because I found them quite illuminating.
It appears much of the hatred of the extreme right for Islamic extremists is because they are looking in the mirror. Your post really shows that the rhetoric is interchangeable. Thanks for doing all the dumpster diving.
NOw that was a thorough and needed addition to this series.
Precisely these holy war arguments soiled the end of the last part of this series, as the winger trolls came here to disrupt and to defend themselves.
Jane I was thinking the exact same thing. Without consulting you, I left them up, too, for the same reason.
Red Dan, thanks, great post. IIRC, Josh Trevino and then Tacitus commented here right after Xerox Ben “resigned.” He had the same the same flowery writing style that you quote here. It’s people like Xerox Ben and Tacitus who keep the Iranians committed to nukes.
http://www.democracynow.org/ar...../07/144207
Murray Waas interview in which he says he thinks Bush may try and close down the Fitzgerald investigation by Iran Contra-style shenanigans. I’m pretty sure he’ll try this after the elections, but with simple perjury charges he’s going to struggle. I’m beginning to think Fitzgerald has done our side a great favour by only charging Libby with minor charges. They have the best chance of making it to a trial. And we’ve always got the Wilson civil suit to fall back on. :)
Kudos on a great post Red Dan– wow, this hits em where it should hurt. Wake up other 38%– we are losing our Republic and our humanity. Other empires have fallen… so all who believe in our supremacy and our dear leader should pay particular attention.
this is priceless:
‘But if you want to beef up the President’s stature, rescue the Neocons from their own stupidity, justify massive military budgets, war without end, and engage in Risktm-inspired imperialist fantasies about encircling China and controlling the world’s petroleum reserves? May I suggest you snap a few pics of irate, turbaned, swarthy folks in far lands… couch it all in the “culture war†ethos, add a few hefty dashes of Christian Dominionism and Opus Dei-inspired whackjobbery about clashes of civilizations and “Dar al Islam†and…VOILA! Instant Holy War, a few victories in the polls, and a clean slate to slash taxes, gut federal programs, eviscerate governmental oversight, and trash the constitutional checks and balances on executive power.
And at the root? Racism, fear of the other, and abhorrent justifications of any and every bloody excess simply out of hatred, ignorance, and steroidally-enhanced triumphalism more appropriate to the 13th century than today.’
thank you so much…
What’s with these wingers and their pompous handles? “Tacitus”? “Augustine”? Do they have members named “Fellatio” and “Flatulus” as well? “Biggus Dickus”?
Pachacutec,
Rather than EPU myself, I thought I would just comment here. In re your post on the previous thread about not just ignoring the crappy media but holding their feet to the fire, I agree. I commented earlier tonight that I no longer expect anything worthwhile to come out of the WaPooPoo. But that does not mean that I think we should just ignore them and let them get away with BS unchallenged. Was it Ronald Dumbsfeld who once said, “you go to war with the media you have, not the media you wish you had?”
interestingly enough, the globalization of clothing styles is making foreigners look less foreign. it used to be that rioting overseas was done by brown folk in weird clothes or robes and funny turbans. Nowadays Adidas is ubiquitous and the rioters wear Yankees baseball caps. In the recent Immigration Marches, you didnt see sombreros and serapes!
Good job on the CHeney booing story, Jane. E&P “What Game Were They At?”
http://www.editorandpublisher......1002315663
These late night guest blogs are so good for us.
I am increasingly swamped by my blog addiction. How do I cut back? Digby? No! Aravosis? No! Brad deLong? Never!
So you are getting the best of the blogosphere to come to us who are afraid to go out to a new site lest we become addicted.
Thanks, guys. You’re the best.
Jane–
I’m married, you’re married, but still: will you marry me? I’m just askin’.
But seriously: what I love (or, rather, “love”) about these frothers is their dependable ornate tone. “This we hold”–who writes this with a straight face? Ans: the most repressed, the most geeky of the pencil-necked schlubs who seethed when they couldn’t get a date in high school while they knew they were smarter than the studs who did. It wasn’t fair and now’s their chance for revenge.
Still, where does this tone (”And so it comes to this..”) come from? Why, from the past (scratch a “conservative,” get a fantasist who knows he *really would have been a hero* back when men were men and sublimation was prized and not thought “symptomatic.” Just as the conservative wit’s model is H.L. Mencken (who would have given these twerps the back of his hand), so the conservative theorist’s hero is…well, anyone who made it out of the 17th century alive. You get this overheated, pretentious rhetoric from all the loonies, yahoos, morons, and murderers of the right, from the KKK to the militias to the “libertarians”. Sorry for all the scare quotes.
It’s hard to know who these nitwits appeal to, other than those like them. Still, it’s worth hosing them down the napalm of your (one’s; our) scorn, if only to remind each other who and what some segment of the enemy (sorry; the foe!) is.
These guys are really going to be bereft when Buckley dies.
Taylor Marsh has a great post up about a woman named Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist who speaks out on Al-Jazeera against Islamic extremists.
I guess we all have to fight our religious extremists.
Oops. I proposed to Jane when it’s Red Dan who wrote the scathing retort. Sorry.
I’ll go quietly now…
Holy war…..it may come to that.
John Casper–fan mail from some flounder? [bullwinkle]
Just finished reading billmon. Classic. Terrifying. We are looking at actual evil, the real Bible kind, being carried out in our name. Germany, Pol Pot, move over, you’ve got competition.
Thersitz–re having a drink, I’ve been on a nonstop assault to my liver since December learning (1) we are hurtling into ANOTHER war of aggression, Iran; (2) World Trade 7 fell how? and (3) all the checks and balances are gone–Congress, media, voting machine fraud.
As an old liberal I find it unbelievable to be relying on the Justice Dpt, the military who are bold enough to confront aggressive nuclear war [that makes my teeth hurt just to type it], and the patriotic remnant of the intelligence agencies who remember loving country over king. Yet there we are.
RedDan, many thanks, and also for your great comments as we’ve been discussing this. The link to Trevino’s treatise and his lofty, evangelistic tone make fe feel I’m at a tent revival but definitely without the healing. There is a doomsday quality to this mindset that, being the mother I am, I suspect attracts teen and twenties boys who are not “joiners” and are seeking a focused outlet for thier testosterone-fueled fantasies. that is not to say all of thier commenters are young; I did spend some time at Redstate during the Ben episode and there are also the Vets who are stuck in the jungle with thier AK next to the front door.
I heard a piece on an NPR weekend show about the vigilantes who are patrolling the border in AZ. There was one man who had been a Sergeant in VietNam, came back and is now a security guard. He was deeply locked in the war mentality and behaved as though an army might cross the border, locked and loaded, at any moment. He had that way of talking that tells you he wished he could relive the authority and power he had in ‘Nam,using all the language of the military even though it’s been many years since he served. Like he wished he could carry his big gun with him everywhere. The reporter was with him all night and the only excitement was that they helped a cop in a tiny border town find a lost bike. “But you just never know, illegals could be in all these cars on the street.” he said conspiratorially, with the artificial toughness he needed to justify himself and his bigotry.
Red Dan, I want to thank you first for unmasking little Ben as Augustine, and then for this excellent post. I’m so encouraged that we have such well-equipped spelunkers and analysts on our side. The light you shine on this is so important. Thank you for your trips to the darkside to retrieve and catalog it.
… and when did they start caring so much about FRANCE, anyway? I thought these people hated France.
shouldn’t that Trevino dude be checking out http://goarmy.com so he can enlist and fight with real bullets?
shouldn’t that Trevino dude be checking out http://goarmy.com so he can enlist and fight with real bullets?
Good heavens, no! The 101st Fighting Keyboard Brigade is desperately needed here at home to hold down the treasonous liberal hordes on the home front. Didn’t you know that?
No, they want the poor blacks and Latinos to go and die overseas for their Dear Leader. They would never risk their precious prep-school skins in actual combat! Get real!
Dan,
Welcome to FDL. Great Post - just nailin”em beautifully. I too extend my gratitude for your going in to these swamps.
Superman took on the Klan.
http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/004848.html
Hello all!
Thanks to Jane for giving me the opportunity - I really appreciate it!
And thanks to you all for the replies, comments, and suggestions - I think, as the comments left here the other day by our helpful crusaders show, that there is a very dangerous trend developing. The nexus between the crusaders, the overt white nationalists, those who subscribe to “European Identity” (as Josh so helpfully wrote), the anti-immigrant folks, and so on…that nexus is one that represents a severe danger to the fabric of modern culture.
Let’s hope that we can shed a little light into their so-far dark corners, hold them up for inspection, and defeat them.
Cheers,
RedDan
MrWonderful — no I wish I’d written that Malta bit, I’ve been laughing about that all day.
I’m sure Dan is equally flattered by your offer, though.
Oh. No.
Now these idiots have the blood of a 14 year old on thier hands.
He died because he marched
suffers the blows of the enemy it once turned back from Europe’s heart
wait, I thought that was the Jews? ;)
There is a third thing that will bring about peace: genocide.
nice christian attitude dude, can you say cuckoo for cocoa puffs?
thank you, really
Trevino was in the Army, he got section-8′ed.
Great Job RedDan. now hit the showers… scrub really really hard.
OT: but relevant to the last sort of…
WaPooPoo has another case of BushCo lying…I kid you not…the WaPooPoo
Lacking Biolabs, Trailers Carried Case for War
Administration Pushed Notion of Banned Iraqi Weapons Despite Evidence to Contrary
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....88_pf.html
Re: Trevino’s lofty prose
can you spell C-R-U-S-A-D-E?
Either that or too many romance novels.
Dan….
very nice takedown of Trevino, who is one of the most pernicious of the racists of the right because he’s so expert at using the “codes”. Obviously, his bigotry toward Muslims overcomes his usual ability to mask his true nature…
I particularly liked the quote Trevino uses on the home page of his new website—allow me to change one word of it, to expose Trevino’s true intentions
This we hold: That we are of the Deutschland, that its culture matters, that its faith matters, that humanity matters, and that these things are worth defending: and that when we abandon these things, the enemy rushes in to fill the void.
I really like how all these posts have built on each other, with people taking from previous posts and threads and weaving it into an overall picture of right wing racism in the blogosphere. It seems like the portrait is expanding.
Very nice.
Let me add that I found it difficult to avoid flashbacks to my Dungeons and Dragons era when I was reading this stuff.
I really think the comments about “I would have been a hero back in 732″ and etc are right on the money.
Small lives, small minds, bitterly angry and venal people, one and all.
And now, my 3 year old Zoe-monster is demanding my undivided attention…so, see you all on the flip side!
RedDan
There’s no way George will bomb Iran. The y have the power to kick him out of Iraq, what with our supply lines running through Shiastan and airdrops being unsustainable in the long run. Cowardly George could never take the chance of being seen to lose a war, so he won’t do it. Not after he showed hid dad how to do it by removing Saddam. He just won’t take that risk. Right now they’re both just using Iraq/nuke threats/counterthreats as a pawn in what ever deal they inevitably have to make. If he does do it, the people living in the Green Zone had better hope there are plenty of buildings with flat roofs :
http://www.afa.org/magazine/ap.....saigon.asp
zennurse — yes it all sounds a bit Wolf and the Dove, doesn’t it?
Jane, this series has such value that I think it should be transferred into some kind of published pamphlet.
I know hyperlink is awkward for that, but one can also print source material.
We know people who can pull this off.
The reason is, online, it gets a certain audience, but the mainstream audience would be more likely to digest it in print form. Think: Educating Wolfie.
Do you think this could be doable or advisable?
TeddySanFran #23, re: their hatred of the French.
they had their fellow crusaders standing in the sewers catching all the french wine in buckets as they pretended to get rid of it in a fit of indignation. They then, under cover of darkness, lurched off to their lair and got mightily drunk on the wine and on the power they believed to have seized. Cause, hey, it is better than MD 20/20, Boone’s Farm, and Night Train.
Seriously, though, they would prefer the hated anti-war French with their accents and white skin and acceptable religions to the evil brown people with THOSE other accents and THAT religion. Truly scary– gradations of hatred.
Sergey Eisenstein understood the connection between fascism and the Crusaders in the movie Alexander Nevsky - how the Teutonic Knights of the Crusades were used to conquer in the Baltics just like the Nazis would attempt to do…
Mr. Wonderful,
I would marry you…but I am already married…
Hold on! Let’s convert to Islam and move to Massachusetts…then we can have multi-gender polygamy!
Zoe says:
no yes pooci fdgtjttgjyujgjhjggfghgghghhhhhhghghghgghghghh hgnjb fb bn dog hjgj
So there!
Aw shit - you guys put the crappy-ass comments back in. :(
Just wanted to note the flawed title of the post. It should have been:
Religion, Racism, RedState, and the War on Terror
I assume it was a PC-thing that led to leaving out the obvious elephant in the room (religion). Or too much browbeating from the lying war-on-christianists segment, or whatever…
Jane,
“I really like how all these posts have built on each other, with people taking from previous posts and threads and weaving it into an overall picture”
To quote (edit) your post somewhat, that’s what’s always made FDL unique IMO ; )
Gary Hart just gave major props to Feingold– when asked who in the democratic party was not a coward, he promptly named Russ.
On Colbert.
Nightcap — heard on local radio today a news item that in Montana an American Nazi is running in the Republican primary for the “white working class.” Anyone heard of this?
Creepy…he needs a session with Mr. Dobbs.
So what of moral values? We all know that “hate” is an important moral value of the extreme right. It was and is George W. and his team of “I, Me, Mine” cohorts who have turned Muslim public opinion against us, from approximately 80% for, to 80% against after we “liberated” Iraq. I still fail to understand how some people can be so ignorant of the fact that Muslims (and others, of course) are DIFFERENT from us, and do not wish to be molded in our image. Once again, I hear from Hugh Hewitt asking the question, “do you really believe the Iraqi people were better off under Saddam than they are now?” Would that we could ask the 100,000 plus Iraqis who were alive under Saddam but dead (liberated) now, what they think about being “better off.” Especially since according to the Christian right they are burning in a lake of fire and brimstone for eternity even as we speak. I would think that even so-called Christians might believe they were better off under Saddam, since there still would be a possibility of them being “saved”. Being Christian myself, I believe like most reasonable people that “Christian” is not just something you are, but something you do. And that “something you do” is loving your fellow man, unconditionally.
Pach — yes I do.
Jane, absolutely. That’s just the kind of woman they wish they had, too. Soft and helpless with heaving breasts and an exotic name. yeach!
I agree, this has been a fascinating thread and series.
Ms Anna Nola - Thanks for the WP aarticle. Page One tomorrow. Do you think some reporters over ther just got fed up and decided to tell the truth, their own editorial page be damned?
EPU’d, but I think I’m SO clever…
Proposed nickname for Mrs. Howell (lil Debbie is cool, but I like those carb/fat/infinity- shelf-life snack cakes):
Lovey
I liked Natalie Schaefer too, but I bet she’d be cool with this.
jb
I’m sorry but I think WE ALL NEED TO FOCUS.
THIS ASSHOLE IS ABOUT TO ATTACK ANOTHER COUNTRY AGAIN, THIS TIME WITH NUKES.
IT’S SO BAD MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY ARE OPENLY DISCUSSING A MILITARY COUP. (SEE HARPERS ISSUE ON NEWSTANDS NOW.)
THE REALLY BAD THING IS LIBERALS LIKE ME ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A MILITARY COUP/DICTATORSHIP REASONING IT CAN’T BE ANY WORSE THAN WHAT WE GOT NOW.
Our civilian constitutional form of government is about to be shattered.
We need a Souther Poverty Law Center (SPLC) online kind of think, a wiki i guess.
Prairie Sunshine ~
I heard that, too. I also heard that the republican party is planning on defeating their own candidate! He, on the other hand said that he thought his ideology was mighty similar to the republicans. I’ll try to find the link.
It’s been great is reading these Late Night posts this week, then taking Kevin Phillips to bed. I recommend “American Theocracy” to those who enjoy their history, and who can tolerate compound sentences.
Pach Jane - Do I feel a roots action coming on. Delivering our compilation of Bigotsphere swill to some of our favorite smearers of “blogs”.
anon - I sure as hell hope so. We need some members of the reality based community to get to the truth where ever it is. If the truth hurts well so be it, the lies have sure hurt plenty but at least folks will know where they stand when the truth comes out.
Hell maybe it is the idea of NUCLEAR WAR! WTF did I just type that and mean it? OMG remember who is allied with Iran folks. Remember that former cold warrior the former USSR…Russia and China are buddies with Iran. Foreign Policy can get a lot worse than the Iraq war. It doesn’t seem like it now, but then again we are dealing with crazy folk. Crazy folk with personality disorders and delusions of grandeur.
The Montana Nazi is Shawn Stuart and he’s as Aryan as they come. I sent a link to Jane today to forward to Matt O. I heard about it on the radio. The Republican Party will campaign against him.
Hey Jane, CBS’ website quoted you on Fred Hiatt:
“‘A Good Leak,’ Thoroughly Debunked”
“….The debunkage continued in the blogosphere – some more aggressively than others. At Firedoglake: “The new Washington Post editorial, an enormous turd that editorial page editor Fred Hiatt no doubt wrote, is such an unmitigated piece of BushCo. propaganda, such a giant bag of [expletive] it deserves to be taken apart, piece by piece and beaten into the ground.”The post goes on to refer to the paper as “just a few shades less reliable than Pravda.†Let’s hope Hiatt comes to his next live online chat with a healthy dose of self-confidence.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2.....8328.shtml
This wasn’t part of my Shawn Stuart search earlier today.
Warning from Google
I’m sorry.. but they’re all so STUPID. Trevino rants like an adolescent dyslexic who thinks that a thesaurus makes up for lack of style and content. Are the views of such people really influential? Frightening, if true.
So I can’t have been the only one surprised to learn here that “dhimmi” is not just a weird wingnut diminutive misspelling I’d only sort of noticed, but actually a real and (in their fevered minds) tangentially relevant concept. A couple of Google searches later and I guess I sort of understand: these yokels literally, genuinely suspect there’s a grand unified conspiracy by All Libruls to sell out Western Civilization to Islam with all possible haste.
These guys just do not kid around with their literal apocalyptic interpretations. Which is awesome, in a guilty “ha ha that schizophrenic homeless guy’s signs are actually kind of hilarious” sort of way, except for 1. all the bad writing it engenders and 2. the sheer number of these loons (at least in terms of Google hits), combined with the above documentation of their excitably genocidal tendencies, means I really shouldn’t be chuckling at them.
Yeesh. Not what I needed to read right before bedtime.
Prarie, per zennurse:
State Nazi candidate denounced
By MATT GOURAS - Associated Press Writer - 04/05/06
“HELENA — The Montana Republican Party says it did not recruit and will work to defeat a Butte man with ties to a white supremacist group who is running as a Republican for the Legislature….”
http://www.helenair.com/articl.....506_02.txt
I think this confirms Jane’s, Matt O’s Red Dan’s, and Digby’s emphasis on “code.” Once someone comes “out” as a white supremacist, the mainline Republicans run away.
Oh, and let me also congratulate you on a fabulous series. These posts will sizzle Wolf’s boxers, I tell ya.
PrairieSunshine~
here is the site about the Montana Nazi: http://www.ktvq.com/Global/story.asp?S=4730106
I don’t know how to make this a link, so you can copy it into your browser I guess.
Man that WP story on page one tomorrow is incredible. Further proof that Bush misled the American people on WMD. And lookie who is in the middle of it. THe Defense Intelligence Agency. Christy and Jane - I’m sure you’re already on it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01888.html
Lacking Biolabs, Trailers Carried Case for War
Administration Pushed Notion of Banned Iraqi Weapons Despite Evidence to Contrary
On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile “biological laboratories.” He declared, “We have found the weapons of mass destruction.”
The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
U.S. officials asserted that Iraq had biological weapons factories in trailers, even after a Pentagon mission found them unsuited for that role.
A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq — not made public until now — had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president’s statement.
I regularly hit this guy to see what they’re up to - don’t blame me if you puke after clicking the link.
http://americanjihad.blogspot......m-all.html
Note to reddan: The technical term when men are involved is polyandry.
On a personal note: My late wife coined the expression “polyrandy” to describe her nights on the town with her womens group. They used to ogle every male who was even halfway presentable apparently. Have you ever considered moving to debauched Scandinavia the weather’s effing awful but the love life is good ;-)
Nancy Pelosi read FDL!
WaPoo just published her letter to the editor about Freddy’s “A Good Leak.”
“For The Post to characterize President Bush’s leaking of portions of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq as “good” was astonishing. The president’s selective leaking of highly sensitive intelligence for political purposes should be condemned, not praised.
The leak was not intended to inform, clarify or aid public debate. It was, instead, straight out of Karl Rove’s politics-of-fear playbook. The motivation was to discredit a critic of Mr. Bush’s Iraq policy.
The president has been caught red-handed doing what he publicly claims to abhor. Presidents should lead by example, including adherence to national security protocols for the proper declassification of sensitive intelligence. From the beginning the Bush administration has manipulated intelligence about Iraq to try to strengthen the president’s political position.
The Post should stop condoning Mr. Bush’s behavior and should join the call for an investigation of the administration’s manipulation of intelligence for political purposes. Congressional oversight is long overdue.
NANCY PELOSI
U.S. Representative (D-Calif.)
Washington
The writer is the House minority leader.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01689.html
Well, thanks to whatever created that link for me.
Maybe this has already been discussed today. I just got home from a very long day a bit ago and haven’t had time to look at anything that was discussed before this Late Nite FDL. But it feels like the GOP is going through some mighty large changes. Too bad it wasn’t sooner.
“On Monday, former Secretary of State Colin Powell told me that he and his department’s top experts never believed that Iraq posed an imminent nuclear threat, but that the president followed the misleading advice of Vice President Dick Cheney and the CIA in making the claim. Now he tells us.”
This from Robert Scheer at http://www.truthdig.com/report.....by_powell/
Here’s a link to the National Socialist Movement’s site, hosted by Bill White, the leader. The site is overthrow.com and there are any number of posts appropriate for Wolf’s lessons. This one is a press release about Shawn Stuart.
Overthrow
So I can’t have been the only one surprised to learn here that “dhimmi†is not just a weird wingnut diminutive misspelling I’d only sort of noticed, but actually a real and (in their fevered minds) tangentially relevant concept. A couple of Google searches later and I guess I sort of understand: these yokels literally, genuinely suspect there’s a grand unified conspiracy by All Libruls to sell out Western Civilization to Islam with all possible haste.
adb — I hadn’t followed that particular link in Red Dan’s post before. OMG you’re right, that is what they think.
This Dhimmi business is projection, obviously.
It is one of the ironies of my blogging life that I am friends with folk who have become the bitterest enemies.
Yes, Trevino is a friend of mine. And his worldview is a complicated one to say the least. I can not and will not defend his views on Islam, though one must admit there are many shades of gray as to its practice in todays world. The treatment of women under Sharia is disgraceful - call me intolerant if you wish. But Trevino’s view is absurd in its expression and viewpoint on Islam. It is not acceptable.
That said, my friend Dan has mischaracterized to some degree Trevino’s piece on MLK, Certainly Trevino’s labeling of King as a Communist on this evidence is ridiculous in the extreme:
Forget about the right or wrong of King’s speech - a man of faith speaking for peace equals a communist? So all the Pope and bishops who did the same were what? It is this that most infuriates me about Trevino - when he slides into the comfortable skin of the typical Republican demagogue. This is he at his worst.
But what is Trevino’s piece about? It is about debunking the Republican myth of MLK as a conservative who would embrace Republican values. And that is Trevino at his best. onest and piercing of the lies of his side:
There are not many Reublicans who would write that paragraph. And that, in my opinion, is worthy of respect.
And at enchiridion-militis.com, every writer posts this little cross †after her/his name. This is really creepy.
Wow, mark, american jihad is completely cracked, looney tunes, hooby-jooby, gonzo radicalism. worst yet, definitely. Unfortunately, it won’t win, not in the top 100 on that list Jane is using. But thanks for sharing it, it kinda freaks me out that he’s in the same city as siun.
Well folks, the economy is teetering on the brink…laden with consumer and govt debt, deficits, commodity/monetary inflation, a derivatives time bomb, and a housing bubble on the verge of collapse. Add in the global labor arbitrage, and it’s a recipe for disaster.
My point here is this: If you think the nativist, racists assholes are bad now, wait about 6-12 mo until the recession starts, likely with a full blown currency crisis, or meltdown at a major institution. With $5/gal gas and nno jobs to be found, the nativist wurlitzer will crank up to full volume…it always does. History may not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme.
The credit bubble is dangerously teetering on the brink as the central bankers of the world try to suppress inflation while simulatenously pumping the money supply…a contradictory scenario if there ever was one.
Jane, can we get little “secular humanist” symbols to post after our names, like their little crosses? Or is that what *ilson’s * is?
Okay, The AP has picked the WP story up. With possibly the most misleading headline EVER.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ira.....0bQ–
Seriously … this is the headline …
U.S.: Trailers in Iraq Prove Weapons Claim
Uhhh, no. Exact opposite. Whose drunk and writing headlines for the AP?
What was it with the weird sexually charged attacks on Jane by Trevio a few nights ago—in defense of Ben.?
79: “History may not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme.”
Good one.
Sorry Armando, one paragraph can’t balance all the other inappropriate things he says and the horrifying comments allowed over there. There is little humanity and a lot of hubris, with a healthy dose of mean over at Redstate and it can’t be passed over because he writes a few sentences.
The goal of this exercise is to teach the media about the source of this attitude on the net so they understand who they support when they choose insane guests, but it’s also turning out to be an attempt to shine some light on the more unsafe places in the blogosphere, and redstate, with Trevino, is certainly one of the top offenders.
Marky:
His attacks on Jane were juvenile and contemptible.
Clearly his friend’s character being in question unbalanced him in a way that was reprehensible.
He simply did not understand that his friend thrst himself into the limlight and his many flaws were thus fair game.
One point, I thought the attacks on Domenech’s home schooled background were not right. Indeed, they were very wrong, imo.
zennurse:
He resigned from Red State.
Look, I am not trying to be his lawyer here. He wrote his words, he will have to answer for them.
I am only trying to point out that in my experience, Trevino has been one of the most honest of conservatives and Republicans.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....index.html
Link to election results for special election to replace Randy Duke Cunningham.
Absentee votes only- Busby with 42% of the vote.
Armando — I think the point of Trevino’s piece, if I’m not mistaken, is that he thinks King not being a conservative is a bad thing. It’s intended as a denigration, as in the portion you quoted:
the things that place him outside conservatism are assuredly faults
It doesn’t seem that he intends this denial of King’s “conservatism” to be meant as any kind of flattery. While it might be refreshing in the face of Republicans who want to appropriate King’s legacy and twist it for their own ends, it doesn’t strike me as any better.
Yale nominees cheat
Well, that explains a lot.
Armando,
I respect your loyalty to your friend - I have given you grief about it in the past, perhaps unfairly, but enough of that.
I guess I would put the way I feel this way:
Hate the sin, not the sinner.
Trevino has gone way, way off the rails on a number of very notable occasions.
He obviously has considerable influence amongst the conservative types, up to and including his recent reference to “recommending” Ben Domenech to Jim Brady.
I feel that for an individual to have such a megaphone and to not be taken to task for such widespread and irresponsible nut-jobbery would be doing a disservice to the tone and character of political debate.
Trevino is either knowingly or unknowingly fronting for some truly odious and extremely scary people with apocalyptic visions.
Unfortunately, these people also apparently have undue influence amongst those who set policy direction for our nation.
They must be stopped, and those who are teachable need to be shown just exactly how dangerous their crazed fantasies really are.
I do not think Trevino is particularly reachable or teachable - you obiously do.
We’ll have to let the course of events tell that tale.
OT —-
Your World with Cavuto had this scrowled across the bottom:
YOUR WORLD < <<CHANGING>>>
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WERE AMERICAN FLAGS AT
RALLIES JUST A “PROP”?
“CHANGING” was glowing red - I’ll give you three guesses to figure out what they meant by that one, but you’ll only need one.
They mean “CHANGING” and emphasize it heavily because they want to scare their rabid conservative viewers that “GOOD GOD, THIS COUNTRY IS TURNING BROWN!”
And of course, the demogoguery by claiming the flags were props.