fritz!

Putz!

Although he did a little bit of bashing, Paul Hackett had enough integrity keep his word and not run for the House and NOT run as an independent AND fight for Democrats.

EPU’d

SAIS has the whole speechy thing from W today up and separately the Q & A. The Q & A is worth seeing, imo– the disparity between the student’s intelligence and chimpy’s is absolutely riveting.

Audio and transcript up now– video to follow.
http://www.sais-jhu.edu/index.html

Larry Johnson has some good posts over at his blog, No Quarter. This one struck me as very to the point regarding the Bush’s outright lie about the uranium in Niger story. We all remember when the administration tried to pin this error on the CIA (just like they did everything else) but the fact is, Bush has finally been caught red-handed in a big fat lie to Congress and the American people.

I don’t think the media has really grasped that fact. Clinton lied about getting a hummer- something that had nothing to do with the security of our nation. Bush lies in his State of the Union then blames the CIA.

But yet the media continue to parrot the “but joe wilson is the liar” talking point. There is no longer two sides to this story as the media feels compelled to try to present- there is only one truth and unfortunately for Bush, he’s on the wrong side of it.

Censure is more than appropriate.

Los Diablo:

I think Paul Hackett was used as an example of someone who the mainstream Dems pushed out, not as someone who was a crybaby like Joe.

What can we do w/ the DSCC? To scared to support a censure resolution, too scared to tell Joementum to go frick himself. I think we need to send them some spines.

ot

According to Aravosis, there are hundreds of thousands of people at the si se puede march in DC.

I can’t be there in person, but I am in spirit.

Isn’t it amazing that, despite what our government is doing, so many people want to be Americans?

Who said he ever was a committed Democrat?

I couldn’t help but grimace as I read this from RJ Eskow’s post about Kerry on HuffingtonPost.

Quoting Kerry….

“I’d been supporting the Biden-Lugar Amendment, a bipartisan effort that would have required that the inspections be completed before any military action took place. We had a good chance of passing it. That amendment reflected my position on the war.

“Then one day we turned on the TV and Joe Lieberman was in the Rose Garden with the President, saying that he was supporting the resolution - as is. We realized that, as of that moment, the amendment was effectively dead.”

2354 US Casualties, 34030 Iraqi Casualties…Joe must be so proud.

What, pray tell, is the origin of the term “Joementum”?

Good God! What will this administration be found to have done next?

Is there a single slimy scandal that doesn’t have Karl Rove’s greasy fingerprints all over it?

Joe is awful. I wish him to go away.

Joe referred to his own campaign gaining “joementum” in the last presidential primary run against other Dems. So clever, so wrong.

here ya go, obsessed:
wiki:
Joementum is a portmanteau referring to the perceived lack of potential for success of a campaign or endeavor. The term is a satirical reference to a quote by 2004 Democratic presidential candidate Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), who, shortly before coming in a disappointing fifth in the New Hampshire Democratic primary, insisted that his campaign was “picking up Joementum.” Since then, the term has become popular among some bloggers, who might say, for instance, that a rapidly failing political campaign was showing Joementum. The term is also sometimes used to refer to the senator himself in a lightly mocking or derogatory fashion.

Lieberman himself said something along the lines of “feel the Joementum!” as his presidential bid in 2004 sank into oblivion. So the origin is Holy Joe himself.

As for his current election bid, it almost seems like he’s got Ralph Nader as campaign advisor. Or at least Ralph’s playbook on how to run on ego to the detriment of everyone. I wonder if Lieberman’s getting under-the-table GOP cash at this point, or if he’s still squeezing from traditional Democratic contributors. It’s almost like Holy Joe’s playing a DeLay-style bait and switch con game, using contributors as suckers.

FDil Action Update: Just in from Obama town hall where Leslie and I represented the FDL wing - and registered as media from FDL since we would be reporting back. Too many people and questions so we did not get to ask one but we sure tried and will now try to schedule a meeting with him and his staff - more on Obama from me later and maybe from Leslie sooner.

All Hail President Hastert…two cell clicks away from the presidency…

moe99,

I know…I was just trying to point out the vivid contrast between the two.

Lieberman can’t run as an independent if he loses the primary because the petitions for ballot access are due the day after the primary. He’d have to be collecting signatures for his independent run while running in the primary, which would be suicide. He could run as a write-in, but that’s not likely to work.

The DSCC shouldn’t give any money to primary candidates, sitting Senator on not — PERIOD.

The DSCC top secret 14 point plan for the Democratic Party at large. - http://tinyurl.com/lqg8l

sorry, lamont is WAY off base with that statement, he HAS to give support to an indipendand, we CANNOT let lieberman remain in his judas sheep position.

I would rather a repuke lican that we know and not a repukelican that makes believe he is a democrat.

we need to unseat lieberman and he cannot reap the rewards of abandoning this country, her constitution, his constituents, and our party

lemont needs to recant and say that he will support who ever is the best candidate from any party if he does not win the primary

Senator Lieberman just doesn’t know when to shut up. Every time that he doesn’t dispute running as an independent or allows the public to think that he’ll run as an independent he lends credence to Lamont’s campaign. He has done more to highligt Lamont then anyone else, even Lamont. What an idiot.

More on why Joe can’t run as an independent. Here is the calendar (warning: PDF) from the Sec. of State website. Primary is Aug. 8, nominating petitions for new/no party due Aug. 9 at 4:00 p.m.

Lieberman is a poor Democrat, but this line of attack will get nowhere, unless he starts circulating petitions, in which case the line of attack becomes moot. Not circulating petitions is a de facto pledge not to run if he loses the primary.

BREAKING NEWS - to you…

BUSH - I Declassified Secret Memos…
George, tell me something I don’t know. Checkmate.

BUSH ADMITS DECLASSIFYING INTEL ‘SO AMERICANS COULD SEE TRUTH’

Q Sorry. (Laughter.) My question, sir, is — well, as Anthony eluded to earlier, and as you’re aware, we have many students at SAIS who are currently working for or considering working for the State Department, the various intelligence agencies, and such. And how do you respond to the recent report by Prosecutor Fitzgerald that there is, in his words, “evidence of a concerted effort by the White House to punish Joseph Wilson,” who himself has a distinguished record of government service.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah. No. I — this is — there’s an ongoing legal proceeding which precludes me from talking a lot about the case. There’s also an ongoing investigation that’s a serious investigation. I will say this, that after we liberated Iraq, there was questions in people’s minds about, you know — about the basis on which I made the statements, in other words going into Iraq. And so I decided to declassify the NIE for a [more]

http://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com

We need to demand that Joe will not accept the GOP nomination.

My understanding is that no serious Republican has announced a candidacy so far. With no credible GOP candidate on the primary ballot, it becomes possible for Joe to recieve enough “write-ins” in the GOP primary to get the nomination. Without a credible GOP candidate, only a few thousand votes will win the GOP Senate nomination. In fact, he would probably need less write-in votes than the number of signatures needed, in Connecticut, to qualify to go on the ballot as an Independent. Frequently, in state’s where a popular incumbent runs unopposed, those incumbents frequently end up with multiple party nominations because of write-in votes in the other party’s primary. The Connecticut dynamic could cause just this scenario.

He’s the former Attorney Gen. of the state and knows the election law so don’t think he hasn’t already thought of that.

Republicans may mount pressure to keep a credible GOP candidate off the ballot for just this reason as well. If Joe wins the GOP primary based on write-in votes, then he may feel even more entitled to continue running. Would you be surprised if he also felt comfortable in the role of GOP nominee as well?

sláinte,
cl

Phone-Jamming Records Point to White House

WASHINGTON - Key figures in a phone-jamming scheme designed to keep New Hampshire Democrats from voting in 2002 had regular contact with the White House and Republican Party as the plan was unfolding, phone records introduced in criminal court show.

The records show that Bush campaign operative James Tobin, who recently was convicted in the case, made two dozen calls to the White House within a three-day period around Election Day 2002 — as the phone jamming operation was finalized, carried out and then abruptly shut down.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....bKy7Cs0NUE

personally, I want joe to accept the repuke lican nomination, it will expose the colors of his treachery

There will not be a credible R against Lieberman — there never has been. Ds own the state except for the R governor, and that’s because there is no one high power enough on the D side to leave their current cushy job to run against Jodi Rell, who became governor when John Rowland (who GHWB called “just like a son to me”) was going to be indicted and resigned, and then went to jail.

Since Joe’s independent run couldn’t be launched in 24 hours, I would look at a GOP endorsement — that could probably be handled in 24 hours. Key will be if they don’t put up a candidate at all before the D primary.

From the last thread — does anyone here think that Bush’s weight on the election could get so bad that Rs might start impeachment hearings to save the house and senate for themselves?

me to me:

i agree with you 100%… let him go. good riddance.

if you don’t want your money to go with him, don’t give him any.. don’t give dscc any money til after the primaries are settled.

I don’t beilieve that the party or the senate committee give any money to canidates in primaries- does anyone know differently?

http://www.dscc.org/2006races/ct/
doesn’t even mention Ned.

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
Phone (202) 224-2447
Fax (202) 969-0354

For general information email info@dscc.org

Contact them and make sure that they will drop support for Lieberman if this report
(http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/bushs-favorite-democrat-wont-commit-to-be-a-democrat/)

is correct.

I know the ‘00 election was stolen and all that, but in retrospect Gore-Lieberman was a pretty schizophrenic ticket.

No offense to schizophrenics….

Attorneys: No DNA Match in Duke Scandal

DURHAM, N.C. - DNA testing failed to connect any members of the Duke University lacrosse team to the alleged rape of a stripper, attorneys for the athletes said Monday.

Citing DNA test results delivered by the state crime lab to police and prosecutors a few hours earlier, the attorneys said the test results prove their clients did not sexually assault and beat a stripper hired to perform at a March 13 team party.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/duk.....estigation

rwcole — I believe they give help in terms of polling, etc.

Jane- Thanks–I just got off the phone with a guy from the DNC who said that the money they are getting now was being spent on Dean’s 50 state organization plan and not on any candidates. (gress roots training and organizing- etc.) He didn’t mention polling- but I suppose they are doing some. I gave em some money- but only on his assurance that none would be spent for candidates until the primaries are over.

OfT: Coz, attorneys say the LaCrosse team had time stamped pics of the victim with bruises. Any speculation why they aren’t they sharing those too, along with the DNA evidence?

Marc–they could only DROP support if they were supporting someone now. Do you know of any endorsement of either candidate- or of any monetary support for either candidate?

I have decided not to support ANY candidates in ANY primaries. I AM supporting Busby here in my congressional district- because tomorrow’s election is NOT a primary- if the winner takes 51%, they will take Cunningham’s position- if no candidate gets 51%- there will be a runoff in June.

Other than that- I don’t want a penny to go to any candidate who isn’t running against a gooper- and I will only support candidates who are polling closely enough to win.

Latest on Mean Jean–she may have violated campaign laws by claiming that she has two college degrees when she does not. 6% said that her lie would make them MORE likely to vote for her! Go figure!

Zogby International survey shows Ohio’s 2nd District congressional incumbent with 41% job approval rating

One of the newest members of the U.S. House of Representatives has a job approval rating nearly as low as President Bush’s national rating, and finds herself in danger of losing her seat to a former challenger in an upcoming primary election, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.

Just over three weeks before their primary election, incumbent Jean Schmidt narrowly leads challenger Bob McEwen, himself a former six-term congressman, 35% to 33%. The poll of 400 likely voters in the Second Congressional District shows the Schmidt edge is within the margin of error of +/- 5.0 percentage points. The survey was commissioned by the Bob McEwen for Congress Committee and was conducted April 5-6, 2006.

Schmidt, who won the seat in a special election last August, is engaged in something of a rematch against McEwen, who was one of several candidates running for the GOP nomination last year. The primary election is May 2, 2006.

Schmidt enjoys a personal favorable rating of 50%, compared to 45% for McEwen, the survey shows. Asked to rate her work in Congress since she took office last September, 41% gave her positive marks, 50% gave her negative marks, and 9% said they were unsure.

Asked whether recent revelations that Schmidt has wrongly stated she held two college degrees when she had been awarded only one would be an issue in the congressional race, respondents were split. While 43% said they considered it a simple mistake for which she had a logical explanation, 28% said she lied to help her re-election campaign. Nearly six in ten (59%) said they would be less likely to vote for Schmidt, knowing she had wrongly stated that she had been awarded two college degrees, while 6% said they would be more likely to vote for her, and 33% said it would make no difference in their vote. Several news outlets in the district have reported that the Ohio Elections Commission has found probable cause she may have violated state election law for claiming two degrees in campaign literature.

rwcole — DSCC not DNC

Jane- Thanks.

Looks as if Zogby was hired to do a classic “push poll” in Ohio-

Skeptic said, “Lieberman can’t run as an independent if he loses the primary because the petitions for ballot access are due the day after the primary. He’d have to be collecting signatures for his independent run while running in the primary, which would be suicide.”

Here is a possible scenario: Lamont’s campaign takes off, and he is actually leading in the polls say a week before the primary election date. In that situation I wouldn’t put it past Joementum to concede the primary and raise the signatures needed to run as an independent. Because it’s necessary for the good of all the people of Connecticut, so he can keep serving the people as the outstanding senator that he has been, blah blah blah give all the people a chance to vote for him, blah blah blah, 9/11 blah blah bhal, keep on fighting blah blah,blah, stand behind our president blah blah blah.

Oh and if you think Schumer (head of the DSCC) wasn’t active in getting Hackett out of the race, think again.

John,

“attorneys say the LaCrosse team had time stamped pics of the victim with bruises. Any speculation why they aren’t they sharing those too, along with the DNA evidence?”

It’s my understanding that the prosecutors provided the DNA results and one of the defense attorneys has the pics. Two different camps

just got back from a gigantic, pleasant ‘Immigration March’ in downtown Indianapolis with 15,000 people. More American flags than in Pensacola on the 4th of July. Only 5000 were expected but folk just kept coming and coming and coming and messed up downtown rush hour trafic something fierce! Si se puede! El pueblo unido jamas seran vencido!

David, #8

“Then one day we turned on the TV and Joe Lieberman was in the Rose Garden with the President, saying that he was supporting the resolution - as is. We realized that, as of that moment, the amendment was effectively dead.â€

If Kerry said this and still voted for the resolution “as is”, he needs to explain himself. By doing so, he in effect aligned himself with Lieberman and Bush.

Oh, and when Joe withdraws from the Democratic primary, he can do it because the process has become too “partisan,” and we need to all unite behind our president, political labels and parties are no longer serving a useful purpose.

moe99
April 10th, 2006 at 2:58 pm

Here is the medical model supply catalog link for a plastic spine. It’s a little pricey, $112, but hey, maybe they will give a discount for Demos in Congress.

It’s plastic but it’s like Frank Zappa said,”Is that a real spine or a Sears spine?”

http://findlaw.doereport.com/generateexhibit.php?
ID=7509&ExhibitKeywordsRaw=&TL=512&A=42409

“Here is a possible scenario: Lamont’s campaign takes off, and he is actually leading in the polls say a week before the primary election date. In that situation I wouldn’t put it past Joementum to concede the primary and raise the signatures needed to run as an independent.”

That’s possible, I suppose, but if Lamont is so far ahead that it is obvious and clear that Lieberman will lose, it will mean that Joementum has suffered a serious beatdown in the press, and his credibility as a candidate will be shot — he may not be able to gather the signatures.

I think the Republican write-in campaign is more likely, but if word gets out that the GOP is trying to nominate him, Lamont will win for sure and then have a turncoat issue in the general election.

I don’t know how many cranks run in CT primaries, but there is always someone on the ballot who, by virtue of being on the ballot, is likely to beat any write-in, especially the sitting senator from the other party.

Jane - I take it you’re aware that Matt O’s post is still quite “live”, and that Pachacutec pulled yeoman’s duty over there this morning?

Tucker Carlson is just embarrassing himself on Hardball. Seems shocked that the demonstrations are not violent, that there are a lot of young men and they are “not drinking”. Tried to goad two men whose English isn’t that good into saying “There shouldn’t be any borders.”. Tucker, YOUR SCARY, not them.

one further point about the Immigration March: there were gazillions of American flags - I saw only 3 Mexican flags. The red, white and blue was everywhere!!!
Tucker Carlson on Hardball is reporting from the DC demonstration and he was impressed at how peaceful the rally was with so many well-behaved young men. I noticed that too. And cute too but that’s another story ;-)

Tucker, YOUR SCARY, not them

you’re

I have sounded off at and to DSSC. I doubt it will do any good.

Dems like Lieberman and the dem machine that enables/perpetuates their power is even worse than that of repukes in sheer cynicism.

I will do everything I can for Lamont - and probably watch helplessly as the dems Hackett him too.

All dems, with a few exceptions - Conyers, Feingold, McKinney - are as invested in the status quo as repukes. Sad but true.

Until this country utterly falls apart, $15/gal gas, etc etc, and we the people run this entire political class out of town on a rail - you hear me, Steny Hoyer? - the Lamonts and Hacketts cannot be truly unleashed.

I heard Sy Hersh on NPR tonight.

Who cares is Lieberman runs or not?

Why do we care what happened in the run-up to Iraq?

Who gives a shit what Fitz does?

This administration is currently planning an unprovoked nuclear first strike against Iran.

Can we focus a little? I am not a one-issue alarmist sort, but can we at least discuss priorities?

As Atrios says:

Soon enough I suppose we’ll find out if Bush is indeed insane, and whether or not the American people have finally had enough.

JWR says:
April 10th, 2006 at 4:27 pm

Jane - I take it you’re aware that Matt O’s post is still quite “liveâ€, and that Pachacutec pulled yeoman’s duty over there this morning?

I don’t know, I tried to get there 5 or 6 times. All I could get was a blank white screen. I sure hope Pach did’nt have to use the (SOB) ‘Nookuler Option’.

How anyone besides Republicans can view Joementum as anything but a fucking boat anchor is beyond me.

Coz, my reading is that the DA’s office did not release this information. From your link:
“No DNA material from any young man was present on the body of this complaining woman,” said defense attorney Wade Smith.”
IIRC, the LaCrosse team’s story now is that that she was raped and beaten before she arrived at the LaCrosse team’s “party.” Then the boys decided they wanted their $400 back.

Someone on the mcjoan front-page Daily Kos diary about this stated that in Connecticut, the LOSER of a primary CANNOT run as an Independent. Which would leave Joe the option of avoiding the primary by going Independent early, or courting the GOP in advance of the primary, as his back-up plan.

The DCCC, I know, WAS supporting (financially, I’m almost certain) the incumbent Henry Cuellar in his Democratic primary against Ciro Rodriquez in Texas. Ciro got squat from the DCCC because the DCCC “policy” is to support ALL incumbents, no matter what. I’d love to know how much cash the DSCC has been, or will be, forking over to Lieberman before August, just before watching him head off into the wilderness on his own. [They did already decline Lieberman’s pleas once, about using their muscle to force Lamont out of the race, I recall reading somewhere. I’m sure Lamont, if not the DSCC, has “learned” from the Paul Hackett hatchet job, at least.]

And finally, after the Hackett affair, Howard Dean made a point of publicly stating that the DNC (which is under his control) does NOT participate in contested Democratic primaries. The two Congressional committees (DSCC and DCCC) are another matter altogether, and are both basically completely off the rails ethically, doing the unprinicipled bidding of Schumer and Emanuel, democracy be damned.

immanentize, yep - junta Iran nuke insanity is the only thing on my front burner

they absolutely will do it

hello indefensible frog/world, I’m George and I’m here to put a firecracker up your ass and destroy you for the sheer spectacle and pleasure.

Bustednuckles - No, no ‘Nookuler Option’, but he did do a hell of a job. Shez was over there in the wee hours smackin’ ‘em around, too.

I just read this by RJ Eskow about Kerry and LIEBERMANN- this is huge and needs to be used by the Lamont campaign.

Eskow is describing a conversation he has w/ Kerry @ why he voted for the war:

“So if there was no private meeting, no agreement to join with the majority, then why vote for the resolution? “It didn’t happen in a vacuum,” he said. “I’d been supporting the Biden-Lugar Amendment, a bipartisan effort that would have required that the inspections be completed before any military action took place. We had a good chance of passing it. That amendment reflected my position on the war.

“Then one day we turned on the TV and Joe Lieberman was in the Rose Garden with the President, saying that he was supporting the resolution - as is. We realized that, as of that moment, the amendment was effectively dead.”"

Later he writes:
“”Then doesn’t this suggest,” I asked, “that this ‘Rose Garden’ moment with Lieberman was the real turning point? It was the moment when war became inevitable. From then on, you - and Daschle, Biden, Harkin - were out of options. And you were in an untenable situation going forward into the election.”

“You can look at it that way,” he answered, “but if there’s one thing I want to emphasize, it’s that we need to stay focused on now. What do we do now? How do we stop more soldiers from dying? That’s what my resolution does - it sets some dates for bringing an end to this conflict. That’s what I’m all about these days.”

Jesus this war really is Liebermann’s fault. We need him OUT!

“Bush dismisses Iran reports as ‘wild speculation’”
http://today.reuters.co.uk/new.....N-BUSH.xml

I forgot to post the link. here it is

John,

“Citing DNA test results delivered by the state crime lab to police and prosecutors a few hours earlier, the attorneys said the test results prove their clients did not sexually assault and beat a stripper hired to perform at a March 13 team party.”

That’s a semi cunfusing statement. LOL

OK I am so worked up I did the code wrong!

One more try

I agree. As always, I appreciate your response.

#46
Only 5000 were expected but folk just kept coming and coming and coming and messed up downtown rush hour trafic something fierce! Si se puede! El pueblo unido jamas seran vencido!

This is where I have trouble with the “immigration” issue. My grandparents were immigrants and the first thing they did when they got here was learn English and speak it all the time.

Because this post is in another language, it shuts many of us who don’t know Spanish out. Instead of a melting pot, we now have pockets of people from other cultures insulating themselves from the rest of the community, and it is very threatening.

In the high school where I taught, we had a large Hispanic population, and I thought it was rude when students who spoke Spanish would not speak English in my classroom as a way to isolate me and other students. If I told them we had an English classroom so that everyone was included, I was labeled a bigot.

So, I gave the three girls who were most nasty about it a quiz written in German. They were complaining and calling me even more unfair, but they finally got the point.

It’s the language disparity that I have so much trouble with, when people who know English use another language to leave other people out, and when people who have lived here for decades still don’t speak English.

Believe me, as an RN, I happily care for anyone who comes in the door…but would love to hear others’ take on the language issue.

Props on the image of Joe!Hope we send his inner child runn’in home to his momma!(disclosure;I’m not from his state,but giving to Lamont left me with a warm fuzzy feeling,perhaps boosted by bypassing the DSCC.)
On the demonstrations of late and today,I feel shamed!Shamed that we(that includes me)have’nt stood up in such numbers to protest what is happening to our country,our liberties and our constitution!Perhaps these protesters,many coming from places much harsher than here,value more fully that which we take for granted.

Thanks DMM

You really have to hold your breath watching this guy step off a cliff~

I don’t think the Project for a New American Century is going very well.

Joe Wilson to be on Countdown tonight.

The posts in the Matt O. thread last night were vicious. I was called an idiot, racist masogynist by the troll(s)… quite a hattrick.
I was so proud!

You’ve got a point kirby,I’nt that adressed in the Senate bill?I’m in construction and have thought about learning spanish,but its self serving,I’d be worth more money.

I have long tried to be civilized - I have picked up a smattering of French, German, Italian etc. phrases. Spanish is not my native language but as a political activist I have found it interesting and useful to learn a few particularly political phrases. It’s simply a part of being an informed human being.
Si se puede simply means ‘yes, we can’. El pueblo unido jamas seran vencido means ‘A people united can never be defeated’. That’s an important one that just about any democrat (with a small D) should know…

orangejumpsuit,

I’m not defending Kerry, he screwed up.
But since you brought it up, Kerry, in my opinion, is doing an admirable job these days of admitting to and accepting responsibility for the screw up. I also think that Kerry’s line in the sand proposals for Iraq were strong and admirable. I would suggest reading the post over at HuffPo, it doesn’t go easy on Kerry but I think it brings out some of the issues of that decision in an informative way.

Everythingseemssoneat says:

April 10th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
I don’t think the Project for a New American Century is going very well.
I’ts going as well as Sherman’s march to Atlanta.

The posts in the Matt O. thread last night were vicious. I was called an idiot, racist masogynist by the troll(s)… quite a hattrick.
I was so proud!

It must have gotten nasty after I went to bed at midnight.Generally there are folks here that do not suffer trolls gladly.Ihave to say, there seems to be quite a few more now than I have ever seen here.Jane and Christy starting to garner quite a bit of attention,which,Imo, is very much deserved. If not so much by the freepers trying to gang up.The trolls usually get a good trouncing as they really do not respond well to facts. Like sunshine to vampires,I’m sayin’.

Kirby #69 - Language

I think that immigrants should give English their best shot but there are times that it’s just very difficult. Most times when immigrants find work they end up working 12 hours a day, 7 days a weeks with other immigrants. It’s terribly difficult to learn English under those circumstances.

Concerning my family, my great-grand parents from Poland never could pick up English but my grandmother spoke both Polish and English fluently while my dad and the rest of us only speak English. My family’s experience with language generally jives with the PEW research which says by the 3rd generation 100% immigrants speak English. Personally, from experience, I think that it’s really difficult to pick up another language as an adult. Some people are fantastically lucky to find it easy but for most of us I think it’s really difficult. For those that dislike immigrants I think that the language think is just a way to justify their hate.

Just as an ancedote growing up and going to a Polish church there were still people in their 70s/80s/90s who could only speak Polish. The first Sunday of the month the whole mass was in Polish. Luckily I went to catholic school and new exactly when to stand, sit and kneel.

Hello, friends, how’s everybody?

I know, I know, but let’s all take a nice deep breath. It does help, OK? Now, b r e a t h e. Very nice.

Back to business:

I’m posting the letter I wrote to the DSCC in reply to thier recent beg letter and below that, thier response.

From: zennurse
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:37 PM
To: DCCC
Subject: RE: Whatever it Takes- Response to mass mailing for funds

Where were you today during the Censure Resolution Hearings, and where is the e mail about this issue? I have no interest in donating my meager political funds to a group that doesn’t understand how crucial this issue is. If Bush is allowed unfettered freedom to break the law without major Democratic organizations collectively addressing it by standing with Senator Feingold, then whatever else you want to do is just pointless. You might as well call yourselves money launderers because there will be no point to electing Democrats to a Congress that has no further meaning in our government. Rahm Emaneul and the DSCC, DLC and DNC are spending too much time and money within the party machine, listening to cousultants who want them to go along to get along and what we see from this on the street is NO ACTION ON THE DISMANTLING OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND CONSTITUTION.

I am aware that Mr. Emanuel believes the netroots will contribute to his cause without significant effort on his part. He needs to understand that he is rapidly losing his credibility with those whohave learned that it is possible to have personal control over our donation decisions rather than blindly supporting a machine that doesn’t represent our concerns and takes our dollars and committment to progressive causes for granted.

I will donate my dollars to candidates of my own choosing through direct means rather than supporting an organization which is so cavalier about my concerns, involvement and contributions.

zennurse
Gloucester, MA
************************************************
DSCC response
No greeting:

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Nice quote in any language *ilson46201.Shame our leaders are more into dividing.

nuevo hilo - nuevo plumbers

Pinging PowWow: I just turned one of your comments into a post (with attribution, of course). Thank you for putting the diff between the DCCC and the DNC so clearly: one supports incumbents, the other (properly) stays out of primaries.

kristinejoy - You did great! Still laughing here about your “throw-up in my mouth” post.

Rock on zennurse!

Joey bag a donuts going down. Stay tuned.

I don’t think the Project for a New American Century is going very well.

Actually, PNAC’s doing fine; the facts don’t bother them since they’re faith-based and, anyway, believe that they can create their own truth, the way big mountains create their own weather. All their pundits will retreat to think tanks, rewrite history, and emerge again with the next Republican resurgence, with Ben Domenech as press secretary.

The New American Century itself, on the other hand, is off to a shaky start.

nuevo hilo = “new thread”

DMM-You must be referring to Sherman’s slash and burn campaign during the Sectarian War. The argument could be made though that Sherman’s march saved the Republic while the PNAC is detroying the world. Don’t get me wrong though I certainly understand the reference.

Sorry Jane, I’ve already committed to NOT vote for ANY of the OLD Democrats under ANY circumstances. Enough is enough, life is too short to spend reasoning with people who have NO sense of honor.

I returned from the Obama townhall meeting where Siun and I sat up close in the hopes of getting in at least one question. But no such luck. There was only one hour for Q&A after an opening statement by the senator. I think there were only 8 or 9 questions actually asked, and I was heartened that not everyone was groveling at the feet of the junior senator from Illinois.

I was less heartened by his responses which, at times, seemed to be filibusterish in length, and well rehearsed in composition. He does think well on his feet, however. I did not quite get the feel of Joe Biden - not quite. The questions ranged from care of the veterans, to student loans, to the democrats lack of spine (well, lack of response), to dependence on foreign oil. It was here that both Siun and I cringed when he labeled Venezuela one of our “enemies”. There were no questions about Iran, or his lack of support of Feingold’s censure resolution (two of our planned questions focused on those issues). It was interesting that although Obama received a standing welcome, it was Rep. Jan Schakowsky who received the loudest cheers/applause. Even though I don’t always agree with her positions, she has put her words into actions for a long time. And she has loudly and often criticized this administration.

I hope we get to meet with him at some time. I know there are plenty unasked questions that I would love to have answered.

I am certain Siun will have a clearer report than I just gave.

Know I’m EPU’d but wanted to thank *ilson and LisaDawn for the feedback on language.

BTW, *ilson, my mom grew up in Indy and I still have cousins there. My dad went to Purdue, and his first job out of college in 1950 was buying the gas station across from the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

In true entrepreneurial fashion, he made a fortune charging people a quarter to use his spotless restroom during “Night Before Indy”

89 Thersites2:
I don’t think PNAC is faith based.. Maybe it’s Feith-based. Rather, I think it is lust for power and greed based. And no, facts are not necessary for that.

Leslie says:

April 10th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
89 Thersites2:

I don’t think PNAC is faith based.. Maybe it’s Feith-based. Rather, I think it is lust for power and greed based. And no, facts are not necessary for that.

You will find additional information about PNAC here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC

An excerpt from Wikipedia:

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is an American think tank, based in Washington, DC. The group was established in early 1997 as a non-profit organization with the goal of promoting “American global leadership”. The chairman is William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and a regular contributor to the Fox News Channel. The group is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project, a non-profit 501c3 organization that is funded by the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation and the Bradley Foundation.

(snip)

I think that Lieberman entering the race as an independent would help Lamont more than the Republican challenger.

Jane, OT but I know how much you appreciate an outstanding bitchslapping smackdown. I saw this over at Atrios which led me here
MICHAEL SAYS: 3. They do not register for selective service and do not serve in the military - forcing legal Americans to defend them.

ALISA SAYS: Sigh. According the U.S. government, all male immigrants – legal and otherwise – are required by U.S. law to register for selective service.

According to the National Center for Immigration Law, one in ten U.S. soliders who have DIED in Iraq have been immigrants. Five percent of those serving in our military are illegal immigrants.

The first soldier to die for the United States in the current war in Iraq was Marine Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala.

He died for you.

You are not in Iraq fighting for anyone. You are home, sending lie-riddled missives to strangers at 3 a.m. on your computer.

Enough said.

Sumday i’ll figger out how to put plagiarized copy in them kewl little squares y’all use.

great writing, GREAT graphics

I think I saw somewhere that the DSCC is still neutral but the Democratic State Committee is supporting Lieberman. I wonder if some of the CT residents here should be contacting the State Committee (ctdems.com, 860 560-1775) to see if that’s accurate (and if it’s even allowed under the rules before the State Convention).

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Call the DSCC,
==> AND ALSO call Connecticut Democratic Party chairwoman Nancy DiNardo!

Today I called the national DSCC (202 224-2447) and I said to them that in light of the fact that it is now stated in black & white (ie, in an NYT article today) that Lieberman will not rule out a run as an independent and thus may run as an OPPONENT of the Democratic Party, that it is therefore my request as a registered CT Democrat that from this point on the DSCC should remain strictly neutral regarding the Lieberman-Lamont race, ie, the DSCC should not be in the business of supporting potential opponents of the Democratic Party like Lieberman. (I also called Lieberman’s office today and told them what I told the DSCC; I did such because Lieberman’s office staff must be informed directly as to what a disloyal self-absorbed dork Lieberman now looks like, and how P-O’ed we Dems are at him!)

I also called the Connecticut Democratic Party and left a message for their chairwoman (and big Lieberman supporter) Nancy DiNardo, and I essentially expressed the same sentiment, ie, considering that it is now clear that Lieberman may run as an independent and thus may run as an opponent of the Connecticut Democratic Party, that from this point on the Connecticut Democratic Party and Nancy DiNardo herself should cease all such public declarations of support for Lieberman.

So, in addition to calling the DSCC, please also call Nancy DiNardo (ask to leave a message for her specifically) at: 860 560-1775.

We need to keep giving these inner circle Dem party machine types he** about Lieberman!

PS: I also said this to Nancy DiNardo in reference to her NYT quote today that “He’s [Lieberman’s] always been a good Democrat”, to which I said, GOOD DEMOCRATS DO NOT ENTERTAIN THE POSSIBILITY OF RUNNING AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS AN INDEPENDENT, AND GOOD DEMOCRATS DO NOT RUN AGAINST THE WILL OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RANK-AND-FILE AS EXPRESSED VIA A PRIMARY!!

So, let’s keep the pressure on these pro-Lieberman Dem party machine types like the DSCC in DC and Nancy DiNardo here in CT and let them know that the whole world is now watching them!

Hartford For Lamont
Connecticut

HOW I KNOW THAT LIEBERMAN IS V-E-R-Y AFRAID OF A PRIMARY WITH LAMONT!

It’s real simple, actually.

Being a Connecticut native myself, I took special note back in 2004 of the timing of when Lieberman dropped out of the 2004 Democratic presidential primary race, a timing which just happened to be just before Connecticut was itself to have its own Democratic presidential primary.

Now why do you suppose that Lieberman, being a Connecticut favorite son and all, did not at least run in the 2004 Connecticut Democratic presidential primary for ha-ha’s and at least accrue all the political capital and good vibes that a native son typically gets doing such?

Well, I strongly believe that Lieberman strategically avoided the 2004 Connecticut Democratic presidential primary because Lieberman had concluded that he would have LOST BADLY in such and he would have thus been profoundly humiliated in and by his own native son state.

You see, Lieberman already knew back in 2004 that because of his nutcase hawkish iraq war position that he was already dogmeat with the kind of progressive Connecticut Democrat that typically dominates Connecticut’s Democratic primaries, in which only registered Democrats can participate.

Now, if back in 2004 Lieberman already knew that he was dogmeat with the Connecticut Democratic primary-voting base enough to scare him out of running in the 2004 Connecticut Democratic presidential primary, you can just imagine how much MORE Lieberman fears that same progressive Connecticut Democratic primary-voting base now in 2006!

So, despite all the haughty “victory” talk by Lieberman and Dodd and Nancy DiNardo, I really think that Lieberman himself secretly already believes that he would LOSE to Lamont in the 2006 Connecticut Democratic senatorial primary, just like Lieberman feared & believed back in 2004!

Hartford For Lamont
Connecticut

Goodbye Joe! Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

The democratic party does not need another demented creature. We have already done the Zell thing, thank you.

Lieberman needs to be voted out of office. He has been a shill for the worst administration ever to run this country. He is a traitor to democracy.