
(Tonight's guest poster is Matt O. from The Great Society)
Earlier this year, the Washington Post held an online chat regarding the decision of Executive Editor, Jim Brady, to the shut down of reader comments at the newspaper’s blog, post.blog. Brady cited “personal attacks, the use of profanity and hate speech.” The readership uproar was a consequence of the shoddy reporting and subsequent defense of said shoddy journalism in which The Post tried to pass off the Jack Abramoff scandal as bipartisan.
The background was necessary to highlight this response from Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit from a questioner in Washington, D.C. during the online chat:
Glenn Reynolds: I think that one reason [that most conservative blogs do not allow comments] has to do with media treatment. Charles Johnson, for example -- who does have comments -- has repeatedly faced media stories about his site in which comments made by his readers are directly attributed to him, as if he had written them. I certainly worry about that sort of thing, too. I think that lefty sites expect, and get, less of that kind of mistreatment. […]
The reason Glenn is defending Charles, the Executive Editor of Little Green Footballs, is because much of the readership at LGF hold deeply racist sentiments, especially towards Arabs and Muslims.
Frequently readers post comments with racial slurs such as “raghead” and “mooselimbs,” racist anecdotes, castration, charges of a low intellect, wiping their rear with the Koran, calls for a new crusade, violence towards and mass murder of all Muslims, the destruction of Islam and white supremacist-esque language like “It’s time we asserted our culture” and “moral and cultural superiority.” It seems that liberals are now by definition terrorists and labeled as such. They speak of Arabs and Muslims in much the same ways that a racist southerner would speak of blacks in the 1950s.
Responsible? Not quite.
In perhaps a preemptive move to dissuade criticism for allowing such comments, the LGF website has this disclaimer between every post and its comments:
Comments are open and unmoderated, although obscene or abusive remarks may be deleted. Opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
However, some investigative work uncovered some misleading and shady behind the scenes administrative actions.
While the LGF staff continues to contend their “hands-off” policy with exceptions, Charles has exhibited a contradictory approach to racial and ethnic epithets and employs a word filter.
In September 2003, Charles posted this message:
[HEADLINE: If You See a Message...] ...that you’re not allowed to post comments, or use our forms to send email, it’s because I’ve had to completely block AOL addresses from using those functions of LGF. There is a group of truly nasty creatures who have been using AOL accounts to post ugly antisemitic comments, and because of the way AOL works the only method of blocking these haters is to disallow all AOL users. I’m sorry for the inconvenience, but that’s how it’s gotta be.
However, for years prior, readers posted dozens of attacks on Muslims and Arabs, even with the use of racial slurs and eliminationist rhetoric. Still, nothing was done and a similar condemnation never came. A reader noticed this blatantly lopsided approach to curbing racist comments only to be met with criticism for raising the question and charges that racial slurs appeared in a search of the comments at a “remarkably low” number.
In fact, just six months earlier in March 2003, Charles Johnson posted this message:
Huh? A Ba'athist tyrant speaking of the Shah in somewhat positive tones? I thought Pahlavi was hated in those circles; but I guess they wouldn’t be Arabs without the ability to hold dozens of contradictory opinions simultaneously.
Charles’ onslaught on Arabs and Muslims continues to this day with sarcastic posts titled “Religion of Peace” in which he characterizes all of Islam by the acts of Muslim extremists. Such an argument would be the equivalent of framing Christianity by the lunacy of Pat Robertson and the rest of the evangelical right.
Some time in 2005, LGF employed a word filter that altered certain words of readers’ comments as soon as they submitted their post. The last “raghead” comment was in January 2005 just prior to a post where Charles received an e-mail from a British Muslim that was offended with the racist cesspool. Charles only offered a sarcastic remark in response, obviously because he does not care if people post racist comments, probably because he endorses such sentiment. That would be true if the search results for the word “raghead” ceased as well. They do not. Rather they continue to this day, numbering in the hundreds by now.
The search results show the pre-edited comments. The word “raghead” is automatically changed to “Arab” by the filter. In fact, on several occasions, readers complained about their inability to use the word “raghead,” test out other slurs, have fun with it and give each other pointers on how to get around the filter.
The unbalanced approach to dealing with racist comments at LGF is glaring. Charles Johnson blocked AOL accounts due to a commonality among comments for anti-Semitic remarks. However, he brushed off valid accusations supported by hundreds of posts by a high volume of regular readers. Why?
Why are these racists allowed to post despicably bigoted comments towards Muslims and Arabs while automatically covering up racial slurs and claiming that these are “unmoderated”?
Apparently some racial epithets and statements are allowed and it all depends on which group is the target.
If Charles himself is not racist as he claims, though I emphatically disagree, LGF certainly is a “safe haven” for racists. It is a website that “harbors” racists. Readers that claim a moral, religious, racial and cultural superiority are consumed with an unfathomable hatred for Muslims and Arabs. They are provided with a forum where there are no consequences for their words. Instead, such responses are encouraged and thinly covered-up. Racism is what lies beneath.
(graphic courtesy TM from LGF Watch)
Previous posts in the series:
Educating Wolfie by Pam Spaulding
Right Wing Racism: Steve Sailer by Armando
Let’s Go Real Far Right… by Matt Stoller
Tramsmitting Extremism by David Neiwert
The Fork in the Road — The Right and Race Online by Steve Gilliard
Late Night FDL: A Thin Candy-Coat of Legitimacy by TBogg
Matt O. has also been compiling racist quotes from right-wing websites over at The Great Society.
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Great job, Matt.
The link citing a 1950s approach to race relations is incorrect. Let me track it down.
This is the correct link.
Matt, thank you so much for that post. You have done an amazing job of research here, and perhaps, I suspect, you hold the record for the FDL post with the greatest number of clickable links. It must have taken you a whopping amount of time to find and insert all of these linked comments. Nothing like telling the truth, in their own words. What a great job on this. An absolutely classic FDL post. Huge props!
OT - Mark Crispin Miller on C-span2 now! Started 11 pm EST.
Thanks Valley Girl. It took longer to write the post than it did to come up with the links for it. That’s how bad it is over there.
Matt thanks so much. What a wonderful post, really well documented and beautifully written.
(I asked Matt to write the post after the great job he’s done in the comments over the past week documenting this stuff and putting it up on his own website, it’s a terrific resource.)
PS I changed the link.
LGF lives by the typical mob mentality. The posters and the publishers constantly fail to remember that they are not in their own secret backyard barbeque. That’s one of the magical aspects of the internet. People get caught up in what they think is their safe bubble. LGF is busted, as is Powerline, RedState, Free Republic…they all have blatant racist remarks from their commentors. Except in the case of Powerline it’s just the bloggers, especially assrocket. He publishes blatantly disingenuous, to the point of idiotic, remarks in his posts. He is as transparent as looking into a night time living room with all of the lights on with a freshly windexed sliding glass door and no curtains.
Thanks for the compliments, Jane. Thanks again for approaching me on this job. It is extremely important to air out the worst of the worst when they accuse the Left of their own atrocities.
Damn it, I got my link crossed again. Hold on…
Matt O: Thanks Valley Girl. It took longer to write the post than it did to come up with the links for it. That’s how bad it is over there.
I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying, but here’s my guess: You had to take long long writing time to weave this into some kind of coherent narrative, because it’s basically incoherent sh*t. I didn’t even think of that when I read your post. But now I am even more impressed. You could have punted, and done the “and here’s this racist remark here, and here’s this other racists remark here, etc.” But you didn’t do that. You wrote a classy and classic narrative when you could have taken the easy way out. Thank you so much.
I don’t think Holy Joe will be running as an independent
Dear Joseph needs to study up on Title 9 of the Connecticut Code, specifically § 9-453i:
Submission to town clerk or Secretary of the State.
(a) Each page of a nominating petition proposing a candidate for an office to be filled at a regular election shall be submitted to the appropriate town clerk or to the Secretary of the State not later than four o’clock p.m. on the ninetieth day preceding the day of the regular election.
Get them petitions all in the day after the primary?? Holy Joe, now that’s some scampering.
Valley Girl -
Yeah, it came out wrong. Sounded better in my head.
What I meant was, the racist lunacy is easily visible that it took me longer to write the post than it did for me to do my research.
I just wanted to point out for the sake of Google, that Glenn Reynolds has a vested interest in defending Charles Johnson since both our principals in Pajamas Media. It is appalling that a law professor such as Reynolds would choose a racist for a business partner. And probably unethical for Glenn Reynolds not to disclose that conflict of interest in the chat.
Valley Girl — I think Matt’s point is that those sites are so thick with racist comments that it takes almost no time to come up with as many examples as you want, which is why it took less time than writing the post.
I believe this was the comment I meant to link to. I reference the 1950s language because of these questions he poses in response to someone that was not pleased with a racist remark:
Matt O: Well, I still go with my interpretation that you did a fabulous job of weaving all the links together, and putting them in context. And Redshift, I see your point. I missed that irony.
Thanks for the post, Matt. The graphic at the head of this post is particularly fitting. A cute little nerf football ceases to look so cute after spending any amount of time going through an lgf comments section.
Redshift - bingo.
P.S. My apologies on the link situation. Been busy today.
Perhaps someone could explain how getting into a self-indulgent lather about the fanatics of LGF assists the Dems in any way to win in November - which is surely the pending business for all sane lefties.
If LGF was getting support from the GOP in some form, that would be different.
As it is, comes off as the usual sort of lefty circle jerk.
JWR,
I cannot take credit for the image. That would have to be Jane, I think. But I agree. Fitting, indeed.
Matt O: Oh, erm… I hope you’ve learned by now that discretion is the better part of valor, or silence is the better part of valor, when considering *some* comments.
OT - EPU’ed - New grenade for those that missed it downstairs ; )
Bush Ordered Declassification, Official Says
WASHINGTON, April 9 — A senior administration official confirmed for the first time on Sunday that President Bush had ordered the declassification of parts of a prewar intelligence report on Iraq in an effort to rebut critics who said the administration had exaggerated the nuclear threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
But the official said that Mr. Bush did not designate Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr., OR ANYONE ELSE, to release the information to reporters.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04.....r=homepage
I love it when someone drops in, reads the current post and complains that not enough is being done here to elect dems. We get it, what?, once a month or so?
Look around you lazy jerk!!!!
(sorry, tired, very tired.)
fairsfair -
My post was merely a response to the “fever swamp” accusation by Hugh Hewitt, when in fact, it is the right-wing blogosphere that such comments should be directed at.
This post is not about electoral politics or 2006. For me, it was responding to a well-known critic, and educating ol’ Blitzy on the realities of the right-wing blogs.
To Fairsfair:
Do we have to be one note Johnnies to please you?
Valley Girl #24 -
Not quite sure I know what you mean by “*some* comments.” For the sake of the post, I used *some* comments but I have a laundry list of examples. I’d have to write a book to cite every atricious post.
MattO - great post - thank you!
and thanks to jen for the Mark Crispin Miller heads up - coupled with Hersh yesterday, I am not feeling relaxed …
add to that - in case you missed it - Sen George Allen’s potential R for prez has outed himself as a complete crazy by nominating Boykin for head of Special Ops:
http://www.military.com/NewsCo.....64,00.html
Matt O: I have been reading FDL articles and comments for quite a long while now, so I have some perspective. What I have noticed of late is a considerable uptick in postings by “sophistocated trolls” who have alter agendas and try to take the discussion off track, often citing “good causes”. Let me just remind you, and others, of two great words: *sinkhole* and *quicksand*. VG
Please don’t feed it.
The main reason that a lot of rightwing bloggers don’t allow comments is that they get their asses kicked on the facts, every time. Their rants are not defensible when challenged by people like Glenn Greenwald, or the intrepid ladies here at FDL. The Right is ideologically based, and damn the facts.
Matt O: I was referring to *some* comments on this thread- as in #22- not anything that you said. Absolutely not. Sorry that I was too subtle on that one.
VG — I call them “soft trolls”
Matt O. — thank you for exposing the belly of the beast. I frequently do not recognize our beautiful country– no matter where I go, I try to engage people in a conversation and am so frequently stunned at the hatred of all people brown and different and an utter disregard for the massacred, starving and thirsty Africans, Asians, Middle Easterners, South Americans, Eastern Europeans and Americans, that my head and my heart throb in pain.
I tried to delve into the miasma and could not sustain myself. Thank you for your endeavors and a really good post.
V.G. #34 -
Ahh, okay.
As you said: “Readers that claim a moral, religious, racial and cultural superiority are consumed with an unfathomable hatred for Muslims and Arabs.”
Of course, that hatred is in fact due to those claims of superiority.
Markinsanfran #38
Agreed.
Jane, okay, I retract the “sophistocated” part. That is a very good point. May I suggest “sinkhole trolls” instead?
I think #22 was actually Lieberman.
I’m glad the number was pointed out as the offender. I’m very thin skinned and sensitive. I always think the bad stuff refers to me. Just the way we oilfield types are, y’know, emotional and stuff.
cosmo,
“The main reason that a lot of rightwing bloggers don’t allow comments is that they get their asses kicked on the facts, every time “
When you’re “catapulting the propaganda”, you don’t want no stinkin’ feed back ; )
VG — I like “sinkhole trolls”
Cozumel -
RedState is infamous for their quick to ban knee-jerk reaction to differing opinions, especially as of late.
Winger joke:
Buckwheat converted to Muslim. Changed his name. Now we call him Kareem O’Wheat.
OT (but this is a wonderful post Matt - hard to organize, and yet you made it seem ez. The last few nights have just be one thoughtful, great piece after another!)
anon & John Casper, Coz, below WOW - So basically the WH is “now” saying that back at the end of June (remember, btw, the end of June meeting between Scooer and Miller that she “suddenly remembered” after she got call from the Prosecutor) the President authorized a declassification (although they are agreeing it was of “parts” only and the doc released July 18 goes out of its way to include the “vigorously pursued” part) .
This went through the normal “lengthy” procedures, resulting in the actual public release 7-18. As to Cheney and Libby releasing B4 then, only portions and to Judy and Bob? He doesn’t really know anything about that.
Uh, maybe Cheney misunderstood him when he said he wanted to “get it out there” and leaped to the conclusion that the President meant right now, as opposed to waiting for the actual declassification? It will be interesting to see if we ever find out what the story on this really is - did they have the discussion off the record, Cheney goes off, and BUsh keeps deniability? Or does Cheney, as he and Rumsfeld are wont to do, just make the decision himself and run with it?
It partly boils down to what Cheney and Addington told Fitzgerald
And if he has just set up the WH or the OVP or both to now be publically calling Libby a fibber — it kind of makes Libby look bad going in to trial, doesn’t it?
Pach 41
You really think that was Lieberman?
I’m not so sure Joementum would use a phrase like “circle jerk.” I think that would offend his delicate sensibilities. Or, his computer would have some sort of dirtiness filter that wouldn’t let him type something like that.
Jane,
Don’t know if you saw #14 or if you guys already knew about it or not. Might be important.
Matt O,
“RedState is infamous for their quick to ban knee-jerk reaction to differing opinions, especially as of late.”
I’ve noticed. I also saw a post there that said FDL bans any poster (here) that disagrees with FDL. In the six or seven months that I’ve been here, I’ve seen NO evidence of that, NONE!
VG — I like “sinkhole trollsâ€
OMG, I mean, like I really really mean it gosh what a fab really really awesome thing to share, Janie.
;) And, while I’m at it, let me break my arm patting myself on the back ;)
Thank you for the post, Matt. A worthy addition to the series.
Back on the topic of Sunday’s WaPo editorial:
Tomorrow’s USA Today appears to have a doozy of its own on the editorial page: http://www.usatoday.com/news/o.....bush_x.htm
The most illogical, internally inconsistent piece of drivel I’ve read in a long time. Shorter version: Since the President leaked this classified information, it proves how silly it is to go after leakers. Their mind-boggling conclusion: “Just about everyone touched by this CIA leak investigation looks bad, including now the president. It’s past time to end a misguided probe that can only serve to intimidate government officials and shut Americans off from information they have every right to know.”
Is there something I’m missing here??? Or am I not on airplanes enough to know that this is business as usual for USA Today?
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This NYT article takes the cake. The White House is now apparently acknowledging that Bush declassified the information but did not authorize anyone, including Libby, to release the information to the press.
Two points: (1) why declassify the information if not to disseminate it to the public; and (2) why wait for Libby to be indicted when it was apparent that he disobeyed the President and released the information?
The White House is doing one of two things painting Libby as renegade who’s zealotry led him to leak “declassified” information to the press or painting Dick Cheney as the same. Which is it? Looks like Scooter won’t be getting that pardon after all.
Oilfieldguy — mcjoan over at kos has it right, I think — Lieberman’s trying to get the party to do a Paul Hackett on Ned Lamont and force him out of the race.
Sorry all for #51. I obviously need to get a grip.
Jane, did you see this?
“For instance, reached for comment, firegodlake’s Jane Hamsher called the editorial “bullshittiness of the highest fucking bullshit order,†then, after burning her Ben Bradlee doll with a cigarette, downed a half bottle of Stoli Vanilla and coughed up her spleen.”
(h/t Allah)
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You better get out the good knives.
Cozumel -
I haven’t seen it either.
Thanks CityGirl.
cleter: that was snark.
:)
Jane, you said we were out of vodka. No fair hoggin’ it.
Pach, I think cleter’s was snark2.
Sorry, I just read the comments. You’re right, it is libel. YOu go girl.
Pachacutec -
I know your name is a reference to Machu Picchu, so is it safe to say you are Latino like me?
Yep I did, zennurse. And that’s libel. It’s all Goldstein’s got.
Atrios has the final word on Goldstein.
Jeff Goldstein? I’d expect that kind of crap from Emmanuel Goldstein, but not from the guy who was in “The Fly.” You’d think he’d be more tolerant, being a half-man, half-insect freak, and all.
Jane, I have no doubt he will try to do anything except represent the voters of his district. I saw where some were saying he might run as an independent and if that link is correct, it appears that is not an option. Sorry about being OT folks, I just didn’t know if you had this info.
Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Stoli is just so mundane - couldn’t he do a little better?
Dang, I’ve been outsnarked.
My screen name is after the Inca ruler and warrior, in honor of my Peruvian grandfather, who was a seminal ifluence on my life.
My mother’s side is Latino. My Peruvian grandfather married a Puerto Rican woman (my grandmother) in New York, where they met.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachacutec
I always wondered what kind of jawbreaker name was Pachacutec
Pachacutec -
I hear ya. My late mother is the seminal influence in my life. I got a tattoo in her honor.
It’s easy to pronounce if you break it down:
Pah-cha-KOO-tehk
Or just say “Pach.”
No offense Pach, I’m just sayin’.
On Vodka: Finishing off the last of my Ciroc Vodka and Alize Red Passion (mixed). All the rage in NYC I guess when I was there a few weeks ago.
Nite all ; )
Me, too, long day zennursing.
No congress tomorrow?
Maybe we’ll get Rubber Stamps!!??!!
Sweet Dreams
Oh hell, that doesn’t offend me.
When I get offended, I break out the whupass. I’m pretty mellow and ready to crash at the moment.
I always flip it in my feeble mind. To parachute. Which can come in handy.
Just doing final rounds and found a new one, very appropriate for this thread:
Wolcott
Oilfield: you’re not the only one. A lot of folks do it. Armando did it for over a year.
Flavored vodka– I think not! Cristalle is what the ladies are entitled to after another day in the trenches slaying the dra-goonies of wingnuttia.
http://www.time.com/time/magaz.....-1,00.html
Link to a Time article by a recently retired US General who tears Clusterfuck a new one and demands that Rummy resign—Jeesh!
Time for sleep here too - the anxieties of this weekend’s various news bits are hitting my energy but I’m sure all our actions in the coming week will make me feel revived!
I’m still looking for FDL friends for the Obama event tomorrow - but I have to miss the Code Pink Hillary fun Tuesday night for a neighborhood meeting on some hijinks attempting to sell a community arts building to swanky developers. If anyone needs info on the Code Pink or the Obama events, check here:
Obama: http://obama.senate.gov/events/
and here:
Code Pink Chicago: http://www.codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=375
just rocked the baby to sleep, Englebert Humperdink does it every time. Had to cleanse the palate a little, so i threw on some old Dokken, “Walk Away”…damn, it sounds great.
I’d really like to remake the video for that one. I just keep picturing two lovers in a quake of aspens, exchanging looks that reflect the knowledge that their forbidden love was doomed from the beginning…
new shot of the author, gripping his hair on his temples, on his desk a manuscript, and a half empty bottle of absynthe, the kind sold on some of my favorite blogs. The ghostly face of his love floating just out of reached, morphing into a geisha girl getting nailed by a bear in a cage…you get the point, I think it will play in Peoria. Where’s my digital camera? I wonder if Bill Kristol would play the part of the geisha as long as the proceeds go to the right legal defense club?
Great writing Jane- and great thinking too- a maserpiece.
The WaPo article was indeed total shit. What’s happening- I think- is that many in the boardrooms of america are starting to get scared shitless at the idea of a totally inept president- with JARs in the low twenties- sitting there through three very dangerous years.
They all know he’s going down- that he’s a defenseless hunk of fecal matter- and that he’s all we’ve got for three very long years.
They can’t bring themselves to ask for his resignation- so they do THIS! Absurd- as if they could save his sorry ass.
My own thoughts:
1. I don’t understand why this Johnson guy doesn’t want biased comments attributed to him. As I understand, Johnson runs the site? And even Johnson’s actual writings show, on the face, much racial and religeous bias? It doesn’t make sense…but then again, those folks ideas don’t make much sense either.
2. Taking a “bit” of a different tack from Matt O., in a way I’m sorta glad thata place like this football site exists. It lets all of those types congregate over there, slap each other on the back, and stay out of others hair.
What if they flocked to FDL? Ya’ll would spend inordinate amounts of time shouting down those fools. Although I may not be “quite as left” as many of you here…at least I can read good analysis and comments, and enjoy good discussion. Such might not be the case if every third/fourth comment was hate-spewing stuff.
So, while I sure don’t approve nor enjoy rascist type sites…maybe that they have their own little corner is a blessing in disguise for many others. Ghostman
Me tired too. VG re #55 Her ladyship typed the words Oilfieldguy on this thread for the first time in her illustrious career. I too feel that deal. Even though kudos to you and others elsewhere know more than you to me, still bad breath is better than no breath at all. I will keep at it and help where I can. Just kidding Ms. Hamsher, feedback, no matter what, is the unique aspect of this medium. And no, I don’t feel slighted.(except for #42)
Well, I have to keep remembering that it always pays to follow links in comments. And I do try, honest I do. Re: the Atrios link- I read it, and clicked further to the WaPo article. I must assume that what Atrios quoted was the intent. But, also noteable in the WaPo article is:
==The author of a paper in the esteemed journal Nature titled “Scrotal Asymmetry in Man and in Ancient Sculpture.”=== Well, well. FDL is always educational.
Glenn Reynolds is a professor at the University of Tennessee College of Law. Check up on UT’s record on race. Not so good. My point here is that his day job isn’t likely to bust his balls about his penchant for hanging out with stone cold racists like those LGF ninnies. It might have the effect of UT confronting their own damning history on race at that school. That would get in the way with the athletics department absorbing the rest of the university.
Yeah, I’ve seen lots of people put para… and know they are refering to you.
The first time I felt compelled to post at LGF, I know very weak on my part, I just posted a link to Bush’s brand new-low approval ratings after the right-wing began abandoning him during the port debacle.
My post was something like “Bush at 36%, Suck it losers” with a link.
Within a minute or two, Charles posted personal info about me gleaned from his registration process, in violation of his user agreement. This created the desired affect of having the crazed maniacs attack me personally for much of the thread.
Hands off… my ass.
Clusterfuck became a lame duck within months after winning the last election. He is now fading somewhere below that level.
After this year’s election- he will become a curiousity- a nothing- a bad joke that everyone is tired of- and he will sit that way for two fuckin years- kinda like the legendary japanes managers who are put in an office with windows- and given no assignments- nothing to do but to sit and stew in their public humiliation.
VG #85 ah nuts!!
OT and possibly already noted — Digby has a pretty funny take on Fred Hiatt wearin’ the Bush burka.
Ghostman — surprise — many of us are not on the ‘far left’ as described by the media. I used to consider myself a conservative dem — now I am considered a radical. Look at what they called Howard Dean and he was a conservative dem that many liberals in Vermont disliked intensely. They just like to label us. Anyone to the left of Bob Barr is considered radical left.
I am an idiot wrapped in a moron. I am stereotyping people, something we righties thoroughly enjoy.
I’m a walking hemorrhoid.
Get. A. Life.
Good god. You need professional help. Fast.
And please … learn the difference between a race, a religion, and a political movement to take over the world wrapped up in the mantle of a religion that is (ab)using the very rights they would see you stripped of.
http://dansimmons.com/news/message.htm
Ghostman -
Personally, I am in favor of deleting and banning racist comments and their perpetrators. I have zero tolerance for that kind of response. They could have the most credible and sound evidence and one racial epithet kills it.
At first, I thought their use of the word filter was a good idea, but then I started reading more and more and it seems much more like a “we’re not racist, leave us alone” move rather than a concerted effort to clean up the trash talk.
Reading some of Charles pre-9/11 posts, he was very tame, sticking to mainly web design topics. But I think 9/11 altered him, by either causing him to have such hateful beliefs of Islam and Arabs or merely brought these beliefs out from deep within him, where they had always been but never tapped into.
Our next protest against the Administration and GOP in general will take place in Cheyenne, WY on April 15th. Any Colorado people or anyone whose driving through, would be more than happy to have you join us.
Good thing about Cheyenne, there is guaranteed gonna be some right wing whackos driving by harrassing us. Fun for the whole family!
Oilfield guy- read your #84. My #85 was not a response to that. Anyway, we all try to do what we can to contribute, even if we don’t know who read, or what ideas came to pass. Let’s just keep on keepin’ on! VG
Well Grandma….I guess any of us who oppose this administration are also terrorists, commies, and…on and on and on! Chuckle. “labeling” is a pretty good trait of republicans….and, sadly….over the years I think they’ve done a pretty good job.
My hopes, however, are reinvigorated with the growth of these type of blogs. I am ESPECIALLY proud and admiring of how you guys point out so much media bias. Good job! Ghostman
…much of the readership at LGF hold deeply racist sentiments, especially towards Arabs and Muslims.
Uh, would someone PLEASE explain how Muslims are a “race”? I thought one of their big talking points was that they embrace ALL races. (Not that that’s a big point to brag on. Catholics and Eastern Orthodox can make the same claim.)
I don’t believe they are a race, but to LGF readers, the two are interchangable. To them, they are one in the same.
Back from Gatecrasher tour. Got to talk with both Jerome and Markos over some dish at the pub and went to Powell’s to hear them introduce the book and answer questions. The evening was definitely worthwhile in many ways.
This is a test for a pic I took related to tonight :)
Gatecrasher
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Hey, did you guys already work on this today?
http://www.buzzflash.com/contr.....6129.html.
very interesting…
Doesn’t Fitz know those RICO laws in and out?
Matt O., got it on how they try to show one face while hiding another. A funny irony in life….oft times, those that shout the loudest about how big and bold they are (which seems to cover alot of these rascist folks), so often are also the biggest fraidy cats! Go figure.
I think it’s good that you’ve exposed an underbelly to that football site. I’ve never been there…and now I see NO reason to ever go there. Keep up the good work! Ghostman
Wanker, when you make ad hominem attacks, you’re not winning an argument. You’re just being an ass.
Reasoned, civil argument is welcome here.
The author did not Trex you. I did. And now I’m through toying with you.
BTW, some great stuff, especially “Bush is a Slam Dunk Liar” (and a shout out to firedoglake) and ripping Powerline at Larry Johnsons website.
Really like the passion he has in defending the Wilsons (and reading his ex-CIA analysis with Firedoglakes legal analysis is better than anything written in any of the conventional publications) and his badass fascist-slappings. I think he has Bush absolutely nailed for lying about WMD in Iraq.
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How am I editing comments? I am responding to them… I don’t even have editing powers.
Whenever we shed light on the racists, they come out to disrupt.
We don’t tolerate verbal abuse, bigotry or hate speech here. Go back to your crypt.
Reading some of Charles pre-9/11 posts, he was very tame, sticking to mainly web design topics. But I think 9/11 altered him, by either causing him to have such hateful beliefs of Islam and Arabs or merely brought these beliefs out from deep within him, where they had always been but never tapped into.
Or he realized that there was a HUGE audience for this sort of thing. Then he manipulated that audience and the enormous amount of traffic he was getting so that he could get, oh, I don’t know, a few million in VC money for a blog network.