The Washington Post has it's usual "party in disarray" article out this morning -- but this time, for a twist, they are talking Republicans instead of Democrats. A lot of this is simply public posturing in an attempt to distance the party brand from the failures of the Bush Administration -- with the mid-terms in 2006 fast approaching and thoughts of 2008 beginning to loom large as well, no one wants President Bush hanging around their neck like an albatross. So there are quotes from Texas governor Rick Perry calling the folks in Washington unprincipled, and the folks in Washington shooting back that they have been struggling...oh, woe is them...to get the White House in line. And but for that whole Rubber Stamp Republican label that is long-earned, perhaps that might be an effective political hack statement. But all those pesky votes along party lines, all those Republican party leadership statements dripping of GOP talking points, all those times when principle took a back seat to keeping the KStreet donor crowd and the White House happy...well, it has a way of coming back to haunt you, doesn't it? It's a bit late in the game to try to look tough, when all along the Republican Party leadership has been too weak to stand on principle against the Bush White House. Here's where things get a bit amusing. Apparently, this is the best they can do in terms of a mid-term political strategy:
Because of these realities, Republicans have adopted a midterm strategy designed to avoid making the election a national referendum on their performance or one that focuses on their policy divisions. Their goal is to concentrate less on the kind of positive message they have challenged the Democrats to produce and more on framing a choice that says, however unhappy voters may be right now with the Republicans' leadership, things would be worse if Democrats were in charge.
So, let's get this straight, shall we. The Republican theme for the mid-term elections is "Yeah, we suck. But you won't like the Democrats either. Trust us." Did they pay someone for this -- I mean seriously -- because that is just plain awful. By all means, go with "Republicans: we really suck at governing." Please. We all need more laughter in our lives. Frankly, I'm thinking a t-shirt with Ken Mehlman's face and those words coming out of his mouth might be a big seller at all the chamber of commerce meetings across the nation, given the level of grumbling I'm hearing from the fiscal conservatives that I know, over the deficit, the impending housing bust, and the price of oil. Yep, we've raised the debt ceiling again...this time to $9 Trillion. In just five short years. Heckuva job, Bushie. Speaking of Mehlman, given how many times we've had to raise the debt ceiling over the last five years and the increasing rate of pork expenditures in the bills proposed and passed by this Republican-controlled Congress, can someone explain to me how he can keep tap dancing to that "lower your taxes and cut the deficit in five years" malarky? Shouldn't someone start to ask him how even a ten year old with basic math skills knows this is a lie? The most intriguing bit in this article, though, wasn't the pathetic slogan or the whining of Washington GOP insiders or even the finger pointing. It was the on-the-record quotes from Roy Blunt that grabbed my attention. Is it me, or is there still an open wound from someone losing that House Majority leader position?
Republicans are engaged in a face-off in Congress over two sharply different views of how to deal with illegal immigration -- with no compromise in sight. The split between the White House and congressional Republicans over the Dubai port deal underscores cracks in the party's national security consensus and has given Democrats an opening to challenge the GOP on what has long been a core strength. Republicans do remain united behind Bush's Iraq policy, albeit nervously, with widespread concern that a violent and open-ended commitment in that nation will be a liability in November. The president once clearly set the Republican agenda, and when his approval ratings were higher, congressional Republicans followed his lead. House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said that model hit a wall last year when the president's centerpiece proposal to restructure Social Security "turned out to be not doable." This year, Bush came back to Congress with a scaled-back agenda -- including tax incentives to expand health coverage and some money to study using wood chips and switch grass as alternative energy sources -- that Blunt said "is not as easily defined." And in Bush's weakened state, his proposals command less allegiance. "It's always the challenge of a second-term administration to keep the agenda fresh, to keep moving with the same intensity they had in the first term," Blunt said. "Combine that with less popularity, and people are much slower to salute the flag."
You hear that, Karl? Blunt and his money-loyal crony posse aren't so willing to salute the Bush Administration now that you didn't go to the mat for their leader. Somehow, I have a feeling that this has more to do with the current Republican disarray in the House than anything else. And the question that comes to my mind is: what is the Bush Administration willing to do -- how far will they be willing to go -- to buy Blunt's loyalty back? I'd be watching all those Missouri earmarks in the near future if I were an enterprising young journalist. Because you may just be handed one plum story with a little persistence. Et tu, Blunt? You bet your KStreet booty.
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I’m listening to Bush in Cleveland right now.
I wanna puke. Same old lame shit.
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Sorry to everyone for the server error. We think we have it tamed.
FITZ! was getting very nervous. could not find you on the other side. whew!
Bobby — I know. I had to hit the mute button. I can normally force myself to listen in that clinical, analysis way, but I couldn’t do it today. SIGH I think I’m just tired from all the driving and my BS tolerance is low.
BobbyG– whew I was locked out for awhile.
me too, did you hear the question re the fundies belief that Iraq and the war on terror represent the Apocalypse and does he believe that– he could not answer. I think he does!
And the next guy had the guts to ask about the lies that took us to war, but sos from w.
RH - your performance on Sunday morning should be required viewing for all Democrats! way to go! balanced, hard hitting (but with an honest smile on your face), fact-based, calling on bullshit and GOP talking points (”oooh, it was only one wittew perjury charge”). masterful. your time as a prosecutor has served you well.
Thanks Redd–Some are now over at the other site- thinking that there is a hack attack going on over here- I’ll go tell em that we’re back in business.
Prez Dipshit is so surreal even for his idiot rambling jackass self I can’t stop watching
I don’t know what was going on there for a while. I could not get onto either site. Had a message screen saying this account has been suspended. How’s that supposed to be when Blogger is free?Any way I’m here now,so no harm no foul, I guess.
Yeah. who knows. Max Boot wrote an opinion piece this weekend for the LA Times suggesting George Clooney is a neocon. Maybe the Republican strategy will place the blame for the war on Iraq squarely on Al Gore’s shoulders…after all, he was elected president.
Still listening to Bush. My BP is spiking. I simply cannot believe he gets away with such a volume of ongoing obvious lies and evasions.
I cannot believe we have allowed this arrogant dilettante shithead into office.
Agggghhhhh!!!!!!
Marine Mom– wants to know who the bad guys are? great question, poor mom.
Busted — we had a server issue. Our traffic levels have gotten fairly high, and we’re trying to balance the content and demands of our readers against a format that makes it easy to read and looks fairly clean. The move has been tough on everyone — Jane and I included — but I think, in the end, the advantages will outweigh the problems we kept having with blogger eating our posts and haloscan and such.
problem is, if the Democrats cannot think of anything at all to say, even the lame GOP line of “we suck but Dems will be worse” line might work well enough to keep both chambers GOP, even if by a razor thin margin in one. But that would still be a defeat for us. For the average voter, Bush has produced low grade, but bearable pain so far. Bushite policies have increased chance that this low grade pain will explode into the very intense and high grade version quickly. But to average voter that is still a hypothetical. I think the Dems are just sitting back and depending 100% on spontaneous outrage, as if the ghastliness of the GOP is obvious to everyone, even those who do not have time to pay close attention to news. And that approach is vulnerable to an aggressive scare campaign, if the Dems do not have the self-confidence to say anything -but that is where we are now. They really should get out of politics if they cannot ever act like a politicians anymore ever again ’cause they’re all skeeeered of their own shadows.
Question for Redd:
Are you the same Christy Hardin Smith listed here?:
Christy Hardin Smith
just wondering!
:)
His voice is getting higher and whinier - democracies can change societies!
God, just - god
It don’t get much funnier than that. But the thing is, that’s really all they have! LOL!!!
What planet is he talking about???
Hey, whatever happened to the the Christiane Amanpour evesdropping story?
some actual tough questions, evoking applause - Dumbass is starting to look like he’d rather have a sharp stick in his eye than be doin the hard work of bein up there
Stinks when your hand-picked Republican audience starts to turn on you, too, doesn’t it? *g*
I can’t believe he’s still saying the same old stuff: “central front in the war on terror.†Well, yeah, because HE MADE IT the central front.
Millions of us are making that same “Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!” sound.
Can’t stand the sound of his voice. Hate that weird thing he does with his jaw – what the heck IS that?
When you’re still waging a PR campaign three years later, it should be a sign that things are in the toilet, but I believe Bush finds actual governing so boring and such “hard work,†that campaigning is all he wants to do.
An abomination of the first order.
Bush makes me ILL!!!
He no coherent answers for ANYTHING.
Am I the only one having trouble getting to FDL today? I can’t get to blogspot at all, which has been easier to use the past week.
Moving on, this was in Bob Novak’s column yesterday:
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Democratic insiders take seriously a possible new try for the presidency by Al Gore and say he is capable of raising more money than the presumptive front-runner, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Clinton’s team has attempted to foreclose conventional Democratic money sources, drying up funding for her potential presidential rivals. She has $17.1 million cash on hand, more than any other possible candidate. Her current fund- raising tour is aimed at bringing in an additional $40 million.
However, party operatives believe former Vice President Gore can outdo Clinton through unconventional fund-raising on the Internet. By campaigning left of Clinton, Gore appeals to ardent anti-war Democrats.
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Am I the only one intrigued at the idea of Gore getting back in the presidential fray? That would be the new Gore, the one who found his voice.
BobbyG -
I don’t know where you are watching Chimpy (I got CNBC on and am hanging with the Corporatists - they are worried about oil pricing today). But for me, he is our best advocate for change. His affect everytime I have seen him just telegraphs “I’m a failure.” The inability to talk in complete sentances, the mispronunciation and misuse of words, the hunching over the podium, the shoulder turned to hide the body (as if he is expecting someone to hit him). All the smoke and mirrors in the world can’t hide it.
Maybe I see him as I want to see him, but I don’t think I’m wrong.
So there are quotes from Texas governor Rick Perry calling the folks in Washington unprincipled, and the folks in Washington shooting back that they have been struggling…oh, woe is them…to get the White House in line.
The frightening and truly depressing aspect of this strategy is that it could very well work. The democrats could not take a stand in 2006/8 and say “we tried to hold the administration and the rubber stamp conservatives responsible but they stone walled us every step of the way” because, well, the democrats have not done jack. They have not framed the debate or even tried to. They will not draw a line. There is nothing that this administration could do short of a circle jerk on the constitution that would unite the democratic party. Meek forever. Losers until the end.
I think we’re in for another round of gay bashing, their favorite targets. I think it’s part of their self-hating; loathing for themselves.
Anyway, the chicago trib today has a big front page story on the new threat from allowing gays to adopt kids.
BobbyG–yeah, I can’t listen to him anymore, I end up getting a BP headache. He’s not worth that. I’m trying to think what he IS worth, but even a bucket of spit has its uses, so that’s not it…
Kirby - You are not alone. See a post of mine above.
It is interesting that Gore is being set up as “left of Hillary.” I never knew that Hillary had a position on anything, so I don’t know how anyone else would know if Gore is right or left of her.
I think Gore is strong and biding his time. He is certainly a credible politician to all Dem’s, not just the “left,” whoever and whatever the “left” is.
Sorry if this is a repeat. Over at TPM there is a pointer to a NYT op-ed by Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, who was the first to be in charge of training the new Iraqi army. It’s a serious criticism of Donald Rumsfeld, with examples.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....007944.php
The NYT article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03.....oref=login
Can’t really get behind his suggestion to hire Joe Lieberman as SecDef, but I suppose that’s a step up from the current one.
ReddHedd, sorry if this gets into the “moderation required” queue. It appears that an article with multiple links may be subject to moderation.
dodges the question of why we are friends of Pakistan who harbors terrorists except that terrorists have tried to kill Musharref 4 times and Musharref understands democracy is good.
My fave ? quoting Rick Perry (or DeLay’s Bitch as we refer to him in this house)
this guy would lose a spelling bee to George Allen, even if the word was “cat” and you gave him the ‘c’ and the ‘t’
hand picked by Rove his own self - please tell me he’s gonna be one of the darlings of the party !
EPU -
I’m in my office with a streaming WaPo feed going. He’s now fumbling over the Indian/Pakistan thing. What a complete ass. Just fucking amazing. We have a complete moron at the seat of American power. The damage this man has done — and continues to do — is incalculable.
He’s hemming & hawing about Indian nooooculer power right now.
Jeeeeeeeeezzzzz….
Listening to Al Gore yesterday, he definitely sounded like someone positioning themselves for a Presidential Bid.
While I liked what he said, recent polls have shown him to have low approval among Democrats — does anyone have any opinions about that? Can Is Gore running, can he win the nomination, and can he win the election? Gore/Feingold-08?
Hi Christy
Finally got a chance to watch the whole Wash. Journal segment. You did very well and seemed like a natural. I hope you get many more chances. It was exactly the kind of thoughtful debate that hopefully will go a long way to de-stigmatizing blogs as nothing more than folks “in their pj’s ranting on and on…” I wish there could have been more time to address this whole preconception about blogs.
You made a great point about how we engage in a dialog here (Socratic method?)and teach each other.
I was glad to hear a caller state that he reads blogs because the mainstream media doesn’t do a good job. He was a Repub but hopefully the point was taken by the viewers for other blogs as well.
I remember Prof’s postings on the Youngstown case in Dec. when the FISA wiretapping was revealed. That is a perfect example of what FDL does and why I keep coming back.
Stinks when your hand-picked Republican audience starts to turn on you, too, doesn’t it? *g*
You got that right, Redd! Some heads are gonna roll at the City Club this afternoon…
Hey, did y’all know that democracies don’t war?
God, your average four-year-old has a nimbler mind and and powers of articulation. Just un the freak believable.
Am I the only one intrigued at the idea of Gore getting back in the presidential fray? kirby
No you are not the only one wondering. I’m hoping and praying that Gore gets back into the fray. He’s had enough time off to relearn his kids names. Time for him to get back on the horse and go to work.
But FWIW if Gore decides not to run I’ll be happy with any number of candidates including Warner, Clark, Edwards, Kerry and Feingold in no particular order.
FISA q, yeah! 9/11 of course. Hiding behind NSA chief. Lying ass off, of course. Looks nervous.
ck says:
don’t know - but imagine the same question about an unknown Southern Gov. 2 years before the 92′ election
Warrentless wiretaps ? Bush– it’s quite a kerrfuffle in the press; Hayden designed the program -(just threw him under the bus)- lawyers approved it, we’re gonna keep doing it.
Republicans- We’re corrupt and incompetent but we hate the gays!
Looks nervous.
I should have added that. But I will now pay him the ultimate backhanded compliment. He looks NIXONIAN (and the really bad Nixon of Watergate, not just the generic bad Nixon).
Hi EPU,
Now that I am getting comments, I can see there was a disconnect in the FDL ethernet this morning — I feel so much better to have everyone back!
Watching W (on in the background, anyway) and he just said, “How long do you make people take questions, anyway?” Unbelieveable.
I liked Gore when he won the first time. I was a Dean supporter, and having been intimately involved in that, I don’t think I could support Feingold for a general election. Same church, different pew, I fear.
I can’t stand Hillary. Gore is the one with the cred to stand up to her and get the money, and wouldn’t that be the ultimate power play on Gore’s part?
If Gore can keep the genuine voice he found after 9-11 and be true to himself and not what he thinks he “should” be to get elected, it could be a helluva ride.
Yep, wiretaps issues are just a “kerfuffle”. And he ain’t gonna stop.
Now someone tossed him a domestic policy diversionary softball.
So why do Rethug’s think this strategy will work for them but Pelosi et.al don’t think censure works for Dems?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....893_2.html
That’s amazing– first thing out of his mouth is that it caused ‘a kerfuffle in the press.’ Not Congress. The press. Then says later ‘if you don’t connect all the dots in Washington, you get held up to Congress and when you do connect the dots you get held up to Congress.’ He just said it– he resents the Congress and the press, and the American people.
Feingold is it for me. His telegenic good looks are the icing on the cake.
Btw you looked great on the tube as well, Redd.
Chimpy slouching and groping that podium for dear life. Blather blather mindless babble…
In a sane world this man would be in prison for the rest of his worthless life.
OK, now some homie is making a rambling crazed speech — not asking a question.
Stupid.
Nixonian, absolutely.
But even Nixon never had this unctuousness, vapidity, and - well, silliness.
Not to mention a self-satisfaction that has never been less warranted in any human being in history.
From Political Wire.
In South Dakota, Rounds’ Approval Plummets
South Dakota Gov. Mike Rounds’ (R) job approval dropped to 58% from 72% last month, after he signed a bill outlawing most abortions in the state, according to a new SurveyUSA poll.
And the Democratic Leadership wants to run away from this issue too.
-GSD
Sharkbabe -
Lewis Lapham once wrote (paraphrasing) that ‘the world is a place of but two people; a place where George Bush the Actor need onlt please George Bush the Audience.’
Apt observation.
whoo hoo Leahy and Jeffords back censure!!!!!!!!!
http://www.vermontguardian.com.....l#article1
If you can’t stand W any more, the NASCAR race postponed yesterday because of rain is on Fox (broadcast, not cable)
This braindead clown’s performance would be hilarious if he didn’t have the power to destroy countless lives and wasn’t happily doing just that with no opposition from our spinless dems. Except Saint Russ.
I mean hearings on censure
A great start indeed! However, I’m not sure they support censure–the article says they support hearings on the resolution.
“…Last question. yer payin’ me a lotta money and I gotta go back t’ work…heh, heh…”
Fucking prick.
Kirby,
Is there an echo in here…I have been beatin the drum for Gore for 18 months. He is the only Democrat who already has a national contituency of a MAJORITY of voters,, he did not vote for the war, he was screwed like the rest of us by the DLC and Joe Liebermann, he is from the south and he’s clean as a hound’s tooth. Al Gore is the Fascist’s and Hillary’s worst nightmare and he could not only mount a campaign right now, he could staff an administration and take control of the beauacracy overnight. He allowed himself to be sold by the DLC as a “moderate”, hiding his populist-progressive base politics because those folks convinced him that they knew best. If you go back and listen to his campaign message, it was VERY progressive-populist but was undermined by Lieberman and the DLC who didn’t want him elected.
We have a candidate for ‘08 and his runningmate will be Russ Feingold…son of the south and midwestern jewish progressive. Talk about brains and political chops on one ticket.
KEEP THE FAITH AND KEEP YER EYES OPEN WHEN YA CROSS THE STREET, FASCISTS DON’T DRIVE SO GOOD WHEN THEY’RE BEIN CHASED BY THE TRUTH!!!
BobbyG - don’t forget GE, Viacom, Scaife, etc!
Gawd, it’s over. I feel like Bill Murray in “Groundhog Day.”
NASCAR or GW Clusterfuck..
What are the OTHER options?
If that slimy lying despicable murdering piece of filth ever winked at me, he’d get the speed-slapping of his life.
I am very pleased and grateful to the senators from VT– hearings/oversight are really what I believe Russ wants– get the information out and then defend your vote against censure. Last I heard, 5 towns in VT have voted to impeach the cluster. ;)
Good old fashioned navel gazing?
Norske - I could definitely live with Gore 2.0.
Gore, Feingold, yep– I will be so disillusioned and sickened if someone who voted for this war gets the nomination; I am really concerned about that.
kirby, epu, ck and LisaDawn82: re gore 2008. i think he will run - but only if there isn’t another candidate he can get behind (a la dean 2004)… i listen to every speech of his i can find and i do think he is now considering it. i’d be happy to support the NEW gore - he seems to really get it and is no longer afraid to speak up. also, i think he is a farsighted leader (global warming, the internet, the media and democracy) who has been working hard behind the scene the last few years - more like an activist than a politician.
Gore/Feingold-08 … in my dreams!… but, i just hope there is a candidate i can support…. i don’t know what i’ll do if hillary or kerry get the nomination, bleh - and i will NOT vote for (let alone support) clark.
RWCOLE: NASCAR or GW Clusterfuck..
What are the OTHER options?
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Hey, I didn’t say it was a GREAT option…..
From the WaPo’s online chat this am.
Charlottesville, Va.: Do you have any information on how much correspondence and telephone lobbying is going on from constituents to their Senators regarding the Feingold resolution? I support the resolution and called both of my senators (who are Republican, so just to let them know…), but am under the impression that there is a huge groundswell among Democrats for their party to stand in solidarity with Feingold on this issue. I’m aware of the polls, but believe that people who support Feingold are quite passionate. What is your impression?
Shailagh Murray: I will start by saying this: I wrote a story about Feingold last week that resulted in the angriest, most passionate email blizzard I have ever experienced. Clearly, this is an issue where blurry polls mask deeply held convictions on both sides, but particularly on the Left, where folks truly believe Bush is a war criminal.
That’s a minority view. However, as Feingold points out, and I think he may be on to something, there has been a complacency in Washington since Sept. 11 that has extended with the Iraq war. Congress barely scrutinizes anything these days. Lawmakers in both parties are wary of undermining Bush when there are troops on the ground.
Talking to folks on the Hill, it is clear that the Feingold effort has touched a nerve in both parties. With Republicans, it exposes their great political weakness — that they don’t challenge Bush on anything. And Democrats are being pressed by their own base to stand up against Bush on this issue, to show they have backbone, and on the principle that in this instance Bush may in fact have violated the law.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01458.html
I agree on Gore. He ‘does’ science. He is a speaker, Speeches are of the ‘old school’ variety. Watched him in FL.last night.good speach,didn’t hammer them enough about LYING. He did not want to use the word.The minute that was over it was Chimpy up next somewhere else. 3 minutes in I had to turn it off. He had not even gotten to his speacch yet.Childish mannerisms were enough to turn my stomach.
NorskeFlamethrower,
OK, this is your brain: a Gore/Feingold ticket with Murtha as SOD.
This is your brain on drugs: Frist, Romney, McCain, etc.
Any questions?
Jack Jacobs says that Bush is wrong to say that Iraq is the central front on the war on terror, he says Iran is. ding, ding, ding, ding. Wonder how much and who is paying him?
All you fascists are bound to lose!
Bound to lose!
Redd, you were great on C-span yesterday morning, and cute too…;)
I could get on board a Gore/Feingold ticket.
EPU’d, last thread:
Norske, I know you speak for the frustrations of many here, so I’d like to bring up another point:
Why do you think we can’t do what the christian fundamanetalists did? Why do you think we are weak?
I’m serious.
All this talk about lack of faith in the dem establishment is really another way of saying we don’t have faith in ourselves.
The fundamentalists forced their way into a power sharing arrangement with the corporate welfare kings to get their agenda into the mainstream of the republican party. They provide the GOTV, the troops on the gound, the passion. The boys in suits raid the treasury. Nice game.
But the fundamentalists were outsiders once. Before Falwell’s “Moral Majority.” What did they do? They organized and planned their takeover. Now they are packing SCOTUS.
So if you talk about third party, and you get caught up in thinking the dem establishment can’t be pushed, you’re really saying we are weaker than the fundamentalists. You are saying you have no faith in us, nevermind the dem establishment.
My question is, why?
Well, some of us should be sending Gore “Please run for president” cards. Do they make an ecard version of that?
I liked him last time, but what I think would be particularly good this time around is his image as a smart if not geeky policy guy with gravitas v. the idiot rodeo clown we’ve had the past 8 years. The antithesis of Chimpmania.
kirby, or anyone else willing to admit they have the race on -
am doing tivo for the resident gearheads - I see Lester #23 is running 37th - what happened to him ?
From a different era (half a generation ago) but still applicable sentiments:
Tracy Chapman
“Talkin’ ’bout a Revolution”
Don’t you know
They’re talkin’ bout a revolution
It sounds like a whisper…
While they’re standing in the welfare lines
Crying at the doorsteps of those armies of salvation
Wasting time in the unemployment lines
Sitting around waiting for a promotion
Don’t you know
They’re talkin’ bout a revolution
It sounds like a whisper…
Poor people gonna rise up
And get their share
Poor people gonna rise up
And take what’s theirs
Don’t you know
You better run, run, run, run, run…
Finally the tables are starting to turn
Talkin’ bout a revolution
OT — kind of, unless you think its all about the money.
We really do have a HUGE opportunity with money right now, specifically WALL STREET money. These people are bailing off the Good Ship Dubya in droves; I’ve seen a marked up-tick over the last several weeks in commentary against this administration. The Ports debacle pushed it in earnest, following on the heels of inversion in markets that spooked big investors. Somebody/ies getting twitchy about zenophobia and a lack of cash inflows from overseas today; they cornered Warren Buffett on it this morning. (Overtightening the ability for overseas money to invest in US assets could screw the economy further, but there has to be some sort of balance between investment and oversight.) Suspect they’re chasing this issue since so many analysts are being candid — brutally so, based on comments this morning on CNBC — that only the uppermost decile is doing well in this country and the rest are hurting.
Wow. That nearly took my breath away, hearing an analyst say that. The kicker was that the talking heads gave a former treasury undersec from clinton administration the last word this morning about the economy; he said the Iraq war was a bad move in financial terms.
This is the very hook we use when talking with the financial folks: there is little to no return on the investment in Iraq. We are losing opportunity to invest in ourselves by an additional $10/barrel we spend on oil because of the war. There is no war dividend now or in the future if every American owes $136,000+ in debt right now, maybe 30K more because the debt ceiling was raised and we’re not out of Iraq yet.
Btw I know everybody’s worn out giving Christy kudos for yesterday - but I just gotta say again how thrilling it was so see our co-Top Firedog on that show - I was bursting with pride.
hey cbl - made it back from temporary refuge chez watertiger. glad to hear it wan’t me that “broke” FDL earlier.
Repub’s for ‘06 and ‘08 have absolutely nothing to run on - it’s gonna be a race to see which Repub can hate gay people the mostest and the loudest.
P.S. I predict that there’s going to be an insidious outbreak of flag-burning which MUST be dealt with.
Don’t know if anyone else is getting this but the sidebars are rendering buggy in ie6. Both sidebars are overlapping onto the main content div. Especially the blogads right under the firedog logo.
OT: Markos has an excellent front pager up, and it hits all the topics we’ve been hittting these last few days, including base turnout, censure, Pelosi:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....125915/638
Also, Matt Stoller has an excellent post up about the base election of 2006:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/3/20/9514/23355
And Chris Bowers adds a data based approach to explain why it’s not so likely the dem advantage will disappear come election time. He does, however, point out that waiting for the other side to implode is the same as continuing to treat them as if they are the natural majority party. To change that, we need to make an affirmative case for our side and against conservative Republican government.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/3/20/135141/161
Making the larger case against conservatism, making it a dirty word the way “liberal” has been for decades, will take more than this election cycle, but we can begin it now. And if we don’t, we risk loss of our chance to maximize an historic opportunity in this year’s elections.
Don’t it just warm your heart when you go offline for a few minutes and we all get an anxiety attack?
Do you see how much it all means to us?
Rayne says:
March 20th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Very interesting. That tracks with what many of my Wharton buddies are feeling.
punaise - such a great song on one of the all-time great debut albums - good to see those words
“fast car” is also one of the greatest slice of life story songs ever - it still gives me chills and almost brings me to tears whenever I hear it
I heart TC, she’s just brilliant
Cup - Yep, looks like them combo boxes aint floatin right.
From wapo linked by Pachecutec yesterday:
A rare glimpse of the world Beneath the Planet of the Apes.
Rayne - I’ll agree with you. I’m not looking to start a flame war on the issue, but there is a lot more to corporate america than the so called military industrial complex and the poster child Haliburton. Not all corps benefit from government military spending (in fact most don’t), the prospect of high oil prices (which really only benefits oil companies (ask any airline or chemical company about that), and, most important of all, uncertainty and consumer sentiment.
In addition, the US economy requires something like $3 billion dollars a day in foreign investment to stay afloat. If that goes away, we most likely are screwed.
Hell, I’ll even add in the Repug luddite resistence to science.
Gore was credible with the biz community in 2001, and Wall Street never had a problem with Clinton/Gore - As we know, they prospered at record levels under them.
I like Gore, but he blew his chance. He’s damaged goods, too hard to rebrand to the electorate. Even though he won the popular vote, he carries the “loser” tag. I don’t like it, but there it is.
It’s all academic. He’s not running anyway.
And anyway, remmember, the “loser” word needs to stick to Bush and the Repuhlicans and conservatives. They lost Iraq. They lost the confidence of the American people because they can’t govern. They’re incompetent. Conservatism has failed.
That question lobbed at Bush re Iraq and the Apocalypse piqued my interest and lo and behold lookie here. from an article re Phillips new book American Theocracy:
He points in particular to the Southern Baptist Convention, once a scorned seceding minority of the American Baptist Church but now so large that it dominates not just Baptism itself but American Protestantism generally. The Southern Baptist Convention does not speak with one voice, but almost all of its voices, Phillips argues, are to one degree or another highly conservative. On the far right is a still obscure but, Phillips says, rapidly growing group of “Christian Reconstructionists” who believe in a “Taliban-like” reversal of women’s rights, who describe the separation of church and state as a “myth” and who call openly for a theocratic government shaped by Christian doctrine. A much larger group of Protestants, perhaps as many as a third of the population, claims to believe in the supposed biblical prophecies of an imminent “rapture” — the return of Jesus to the world and the elevation of believers to heaven.
Prophetic Christians, Phillips writes, often shape their view of politics and the world around signs that charlatan biblical scholars have identified as predictors of the apocalypse — among them a war in Iraq, the Jewish settlement of the whole of biblical Israel, even the rise of terrorism. He convincingly demonstrates that the Bush administration has calculatedly reached out to such believers and encouraged them to see the president’s policies as a response to premillennialist thought. He also suggests that the president and other members of his administration may actually believe these things themselves, that religious belief is the basis of policy, not just a tactic for selling it to the public. Phillips’s evidence for this disturbing claim is significant, but not conclusive. more here:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0320-31.htm
Rayne says:
March 20th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Wow Indeed ! Our own RWCole was predicting this late last year. Even I understand what they’re saying here
And as briliant in it’s simplicity as TeddySanFran’s “Had Enough?” is - howz ’bout this - (c’mon everyone, in your best Dr. Evil voice )
WE HAVE
9 TRILLION REASONS FOR YOU TO VOTE DEMOCRAT !
Perhaps the best live show I ever saw was Tracey Chapman at Wolftrap a couple of years ago. She and her band rocked. Part jam, part acoustic, part gospel/soul revival.
Amazing. She could lift you up and then spellbind you, break your heart.
Sharkbabe: “fast car†- yep!
Re: Christy’s appearance on Washington Journal. Is it possible that the liberal blogosphere has entered the mainstream? The level of professionalism and viewability of Ms. Smith would certainly suggest there was more to the segment than just a “curiosity piece” about wacky bloggers.
Not so for the Powerline guy, though; just another angry talking pointer with no charisma (I love it how these right-wingers always seem to be “formerly Libertarian” or, in his case a Democrat, though, oddly, he couldn’t remember when exactly it was he became a Republican.)
Many congratulations on ReddHead’s performance…pretty easy on the eyes, too.
Re Gore: I, too, would support him 100% IF, and only if, he doesn’t get within a mile of a consultant. Let someone do the travel plans and which states to hit (listen to Dean re 50-state plan), but speak always from the gut. And if they ask you gottcha questions, laugh and put the question in the hopper.
Oh, and don’t talk about your clothes. And, please, keep Tipper away from the movie reviews, O.K.?
Just got off the phone with my buddy, the mortgage lender. Seems like the spectre of inflation has got her office spooked.
To think that it all stems from energy prices, and Dick Cheney is the man with the secret program that is the cause of all this.
Does everybody realize that if it wasn’t for the high energy prices, the Dems wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell in ‘06 and ‘08?
They need to start throwing the mud that sticks!
Just saw the C-SPAN footage.
Well done, Redd!! I was a little worried when you let that lying hack talk over you the first time–but I noticed that you didn’t let him get away with it again. Hit ‘em with the chair (ever so nicely, of course)!!! We’re all proud of you.
What say, folks? Know any other cute lady prosecutors we can line up on our side?
Yeah Right.
1)The Republicans are a mear shadow of their former selves. The WaPo told me so.
2)Democrats will be an improvement over the Republicans.
3)There is more than a dimes worth of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
4) There are only a few DINO Democrats.
Yeah, Right!
Call me when the shootin’ starts. That way I’ll know there is a serious opposition party.
Pach –
Interesting post at BOPnews.com that’s right up your alley –
Casting Call For The New Politics — by Shaula Evans
http://www.bopnews.com/archives/006144.html#6144
Giovanni Rodriguez of Eastwikkers has a two part series called “New PR Jobs for the Post-Blogging Economy” (Part I here; Part II here) that discusses new roles for PR professionals in “the blog age.”
Lately I’ve been writing about to what extent voters can be and should be considered customers. In a similar vein, I find it useful to consider many political jobs (that either do exist or should exist) as PR professions — that map in an interesting way to the list that Eastwikkers has created.
new thread: “How would a Patriot act?”
punaise says:
March 20th, 2006 at 11:15 am
right back at ya - was relieved to see you there
With all the migration interruptions lately, I no longer go in to clutch-the-lucky-talisman-and drool mode - but, I really think we should have some kind of contingency/meet up point
and funny you post TC, ‘Fast Car’ came on in the car yesterday . . . and the 15 year old wanted to know who she was and downloaded it when we got home -blogchronicity?
The other thing about Gore is that he truly believes in reform. He took up the whole Reinventing Government thing and pushed for Performance Reviews in the agencies. I read a lot of his papers at that period because Berkeley was modelling some of its management practices on these ideas. He has the fire that we so sorely need. I would love to see him and Feingold do the group hug.
I couldn’t even get through more than 3 minutes of the Bush “speech.” He so mangles the English language, mispronouncing every other word and delivering with that snippy, condescending, angry tone that makes me nuts. He just keeps repeating the same old lies, and today it seemed like he was trying out that old Iraq is the hotbed of terra and we have to stop them there before they get us here meme, without even taking any of the credit!
The vice president, who is often portrayed by satirists as the real power at the White House, said his role is to advise the president.
“I don’t run anything. I’m not in charge of the White House. I’m not in charge of the Defense Department, as I once was, or a congressman from Wyoming,” Cheney said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200.....eney_dc_1.
the real issue is going to be corporate sponsorship of our politicians and our law
that’s got to be our agenda, because frankly, if corporate America is allowed to put polititions in office, then they will have whatever law they want
I really don’t care if it’s a repuke-lican or a democrat, if corporations are buying campaigns then they are buying law
plain and simple, this is a HUGE issue for constituents from both parties
we can attack the buying of law from republicans as our agenda for election, but then we can’t allow our politicians to drink from the same well
The energy turmoil of 2000-01 prompted Bush to establish a task force charged with developing a long-range plan to meet U.S. energy requirements. With the advice of his close friend and largest campaign contributor, Enron CEO, Ken Lay, Bush picked Vice President Dick Cheney, former Halliburton CEO, to head this group. In 2001 the Task Force formulated the National Energy Policy (NEP), or Cheney Report, bypassing possibilities for energy independence and reduced oil consumption with a declaration of ambitions to establish new sources of oil.
http://www.projectcensored.org.....05/8.html.
What a liar Dick Cheney is! Keep up the word association, Big Oil=Cheney.
cupholder @ March 20th, 2006 11:18 am (#83)
This has to do, I think, with the size of font your browser is using. If you can make it smaller, it will probably fit. The problem is that, given what’s available in HTML, you’re stuck with expressing the column widths as either pixels or % of the page, and the characters can be any size they want to be.
I see this same problem using Firefox on a big monitor (1600×1200 pixels), and a large font.
If you can, try reducing the font size.